Ya still the best out there in my opinion, well in quite a few judges opinions too of course. I just love the way he opens up without losing balance then comes back, opens up, extends, shortens must be a dream to ride so effortlessly carries himself too. He's a happy camper thats for sure.
I'm not trying to be mean or put anyone down, but I just watched Totilas' videos and I have no idea how this horse and rider beat the Totilas team in the world record, or even the rest of the competitors for that matter. Watching Totilas makes me feel like being pro in dressage is unattainable, but watching this horse makes me feel like it's quite possible, just because of the lack of umph this horse puts into it... Just my thoughts and curiosity, am I missing something?
Etrnlflame You are absolutely right. Valegro is of course lovely - but his tempo is uneven (you really see it in the half-passes), he speeds up into and slows down out of his extensions, he does not bend through the corners, rather leans into them. For this level it is a lovely, solid, high-80s ride. But it is not a 90, let alone a world record. The exceptional pairing of Gal and Totilas comes but once a century and is not one we are likely to see again in our lifetimes.
Totilas barely tracks up in his extensions - people get sidetracked by the high waving forelegs. Totilas is/was very rhythmical in his passage & piaffe, perhaps moreso than Valegro, but Valegro stays absolutely balanced on his hind quarters throughout and generally doesn't make mistakes - and of course the Kur gets extra points for artistry which is very subjective scoring. Don't see why you can't see the umph being put in by Valegro - an ordinary rider wouldn't be able to easily sit Valegro's trot and you can see he jumps high off the ground in his canter changes......
Etrnlflame - When you see Totilas move, you see flashy front leg action, and that is all. When you see Valegro move, you see him use his back and push forward from the hind legs, even if it isn't flashy. One point of the training is to make it look easy, therefore, "just anyone" should feel like they could do it. While Valegro is not the flashiest horse out there, is is correct, and that is all the umph that should be necessary. I have watched expressionless horses, and Valegro is not one of them. Jennifer R. Pournelle - Valegro's tempo is fine; in my opinion, it's more even than Totilas's. Nor does he speed up in his extensions, they are very correct. While yes, Valegro does lean into the corners a bit, that is a simple issue to fix: she just needs to use a bit more inside leg to encourage him to bend more. ***** I agree, though I'd be more inclined to say that Totilas doesn't track up at all in his extensions; rather than say that he barely tracks up. Yes, Totilas was rhythmic in the piaffe and passage, but he didn't use his back or hind legs at all; everything he did was foreleg action. This article accurately (in my opinion) describes why the author thinks Totilas shouldn't have been setting world records. She sums up the opinions of most, if not all, critics of Totilas; breaking the arguments down into coherent sections. I tend to agree with what she wrote, some of you who insist on comparing Valegro to Totilas might find it an interesting read. =) dressagelover101.deviantart.com/journal/Moorlands-Totilas-Dressage-Champion-510069605
What you are missing is the view of a dancer: fluidity. Valegro is truly the "Dancing Horse". His movements are fluid, as one TV commentator put it " transitions as smooth as butter." There is no jerkiness going from one movement to the next. In short: harmony.
Wow.. That is one heavy bouncing horse. It doesn't look elegant at all! xD It looks clumpy, but still cute tho, I guess. Idk. dressage isn't my thing, so what do I know ^^,
When you hear the combination "Charlotte Dujargin and Valegro" you just know it's gonna be amazing!!!
First time I’ve seen on video, but saw it in person in France. They are breathtaking.
Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for sharing this. Charlotte you and Velegro are poetry in motion. Such a joy to see.
Janet North Lanarkshire Scotland You're welcome!
OMG Httyd music! Yeah-s, somebody finally discovering the wonder of it! LOVE it!
Wow so many new and current vids thanks soooo much. Im missing all of this being based in Hong Kong.
Thank you for this! I've been wanting to watch it back since since I watched it on tv!
Thanks so much for sharing this. Such an amazing partnership!
bridlah You're welcome...& yes,it is :)
Just gets better all the time. Musical masterpiece too.
just beautiful. brought tears to my eyes!! such an incredible pairing!! want to see if on the full screen now!!
I can't believe how amazing this pair is. Such a joy to watch.
What a beautiful performance for two amazing athletes.
Beautiful pair! Brilliant!
Ya still the best out there in my opinion, well in quite a few judges opinions too of course. I just love the way he opens up without losing balance then comes back, opens up, extends, shortens must be a dream to ride so effortlessly carries himself too. He's a happy camper thats for sure.
A beautiful soundtrack. Lovely horse.
Beautiful work
***** It certainly is
Brilliant! I enjoyed it, thanks for sharing! :)
This is amazing!!!!
With How To Train Your Dragon 2!!!! I' love it
What fantastic music and in perfect step
Incredible.
superb!
Amazing!!! :D
Best dressage pair ever!
Amazing I cant even see her leg cues
beautiful dressage... and is that HTTYD MUSIC I HEAR????
Music is from "how to Train your Dragon"
Amazing ride! *.*
Tris Fire Agreed :)
Thank you! I knew I had heard it some where and it was driving me nuts!
+Bluefire MH auch nicht besser als Totilas.
I WOULD LOVE TO LEARN RIDE LIKE THAT
die habe ich live gesehn *-*
This performance rivals that of Edward Gal and Totias.
the How to train your dragon music fits in
what song form how to train your dragon?
the music is from how to train your dragon
I'm not trying to be mean or put anyone down, but I just watched Totilas' videos and I have no idea how this horse and rider beat the Totilas team in the world record, or even the rest of the competitors for that matter. Watching Totilas makes me feel like being pro in dressage is unattainable, but watching this horse makes me feel like it's quite possible, just because of the lack of umph this horse puts into it... Just my thoughts and curiosity, am I missing something?
Etrnlflame You are absolutely right. Valegro is of course lovely - but his tempo is uneven (you really see it in the half-passes), he speeds up into and slows down out of his extensions, he does not bend through the corners, rather leans into them. For this level it is a lovely, solid, high-80s ride. But it is not a 90, let alone a world record. The exceptional pairing of Gal and Totilas comes but once a century and is not one we are likely to see again in our lifetimes.
Totilas barely tracks up in his extensions - people get sidetracked by the high waving forelegs. Totilas is/was very rhythmical in his passage & piaffe, perhaps moreso than Valegro, but Valegro stays absolutely balanced on his hind quarters throughout and generally doesn't make mistakes - and of course the Kur gets extra points for artistry which is very subjective scoring. Don't see why you can't see the umph being put in by Valegro - an ordinary rider wouldn't be able to easily sit Valegro's trot and you can see he jumps high off the ground in his canter changes......
Etrnlflame - When you see Totilas move, you see flashy front leg action, and that is all. When you see Valegro move, you see him use his back and push forward from the hind legs, even if it isn't flashy. One point of the training is to make it look easy, therefore, "just anyone" should feel like they could do it. While Valegro is not the flashiest horse out there, is is correct, and that is all the umph that should be necessary. I have watched expressionless horses, and Valegro is not one of them.
Jennifer R. Pournelle - Valegro's tempo is fine; in my opinion, it's more even than Totilas's. Nor does he speed up in his extensions, they are very correct. While yes, Valegro does lean into the corners a bit, that is a simple issue to fix: she just needs to use a bit more inside leg to encourage him to bend more.
***** I agree, though I'd be more inclined to say that Totilas doesn't track up at all in his extensions; rather than say that he barely tracks up. Yes, Totilas was rhythmic in the piaffe and passage, but he didn't use his back or hind legs at all; everything he did was foreleg action.
This article accurately (in my opinion) describes why the author thinks Totilas shouldn't have been setting world records. She sums up the opinions of most, if not all, critics of Totilas; breaking the arguments down into coherent sections. I tend to agree with what she wrote, some of you who insist on comparing Valegro to Totilas might find it an interesting read. =)
dressagelover101.deviantart.com/journal/Moorlands-Totilas-Dressage-Champion-510069605
Miss Martian Nice response from you Miss Martian and Josephine Trott. Thank you.
What you are missing is the view of a dancer: fluidity. Valegro is truly the "Dancing Horse". His movements are fluid, as one TV commentator put it " transitions as smooth as butter." There is no jerkiness going from one movement to the next. In short: harmony.
How to train dragon musicl!
! Das arme Vieh!
Wow.. That is one heavy bouncing horse. It doesn't look elegant at all! xD It looks clumpy, but still cute tho, I guess. Idk. dressage isn't my thing, so what do I know ^^,
If it was not elegant then why on earth would it have won a gold medal??
Rose Chaplin Low standards? LMAO .. Sorry, i don't really know.. i don't quite understand the equine world today. :)
And got multiple Olympic medals on him...m
Little Hels-Bels Yeah, it's a really strange sport. Pfft.. :3
+Aya, sorry, I was actually backing up Rose there... I think the pair are amazing..