This was a well- spoken informative presentation. Just starting out in the 6.0L Powerstroke world and videos like this are very helpful to those who haven't "been there, done that". VGT FTW.
Apples to oranges, but swapped out shit VGT on our 12 Duramax tow pig for SXE362 also. Gave up a touch of down low response, but small enough you can still operate loaded w cruise control and egts still rarely top 1200 on the grades w up to 20k toy hauler. Win win in my book! Tiny seat of the pants upper end power bump too!!
non VGT spools Fast. my Borg warner 369 SXE starts building boost at about 1500 RPM. and at 1800 RPM i got 10 PSI already. on my truck and with my warren tuning with 175/30 injectors the truck does about 60 PSI at most. when the turbo lights and it gets into the RPM. it can go higher but i really really don't like bouncing the truck off the rev limiter.
That would not work because then the exhaust gasses would not be directed to the turbine properly. If you want to turn a VGT into a non-VGT, you could just unplug the solenoid and the vanes will default to open. Then you can really enjoy the new found lag.
Thats correct! Your options are get your tuner to remove the VGT code. or You can also just take the VGT solenoid and plug it in and just let it hang out in the valley of your engine.
One things that wasn't mentioned, and correct me if I'm wrong, is the truck needs to be egr deleted for non vgt. In fact, vgt turbos were created because of egr, as a way to maintain boost when the egr valve opens.
All you technically need is the T4 Kit and the turbo and you can install it. You will want to get your custom tunes revised, since you will no longer have a VGT actuator. Also, depending on what size turbo you decide to go with, you will want to upgrade injectors, HPOP, Etc. to maximize the benefits.
Bad Ass 6.0 Powerstroke have you heard any stock modern diesel with a straight pipe? They all have vgt turbos and they all whistle in some form. Change it to a fixed geometry and they sound completely different.
Bad Ass 6.0 Powerstroke and I’m not disagreeing with the 10 blade turbo. I have a 10 blade KC stage 1 and it definitely whistles a lot louder than a 13
@@skating4ad Well if you're referring to a complete exhaust with No Cat or No Muffler, of course your gonna hear every Damn thing coming out of that Engine. My Stock 2006 Turbo didn't whistle at all. I did just have a MBRP Cat Back at the time, with Stock Cat.
This was a well- spoken informative presentation. Just starting out in the 6.0L Powerstroke world and videos like this are very helpful to those who haven't "been there, done that". VGT FTW.
I just finished reinstalling the engine in my truck and I went with a S362 and a stage 2 colt cam. I'm pretty happy. No complaints at all.
Was there any big differences with the stage two cam that you noticed?
@@theautodidacticman_ Yea, It’s not a low revving mild mannered engine anymore. I have to keep it revved up. It’s a mid range RPM cam. 2k & up..
Apples to oranges, but swapped out shit VGT on our 12 Duramax tow pig for SXE362 also. Gave up a touch of down low response, but small enough you can still operate loaded w cruise control and egts still rarely top 1200 on the grades w up to 20k toy hauler. Win win in my book! Tiny seat of the pants upper end power bump too!!
Great video !!!!
Maybe we can see a Non Vgt and injector street kit some day?
Great idea! We will work on that for sure!
Nice! Maybe I'll be able to pony up the money for it some day! 🤣
Do these s300 turbos mount up to the stock charge pipes and downpipe correctly
Do you have to have a custom tune for this upgrade and also. I have stock injectors. What turbo is best.
Im guessing the cel can be tuned out? Also would a ball bearing turbo make up for that "lag"?
It will make up for some lag, but not noticeably
It can help, but nothing beats a VGT. We just plug in a VGT solenoid and let it sit in the valley. As long as its connected, no CEL.
non VGT spools Fast. my Borg warner 369 SXE starts building boost at about 1500 RPM. and at 1800 RPM i got 10 PSI already. on my truck and with my warren tuning with 175/30 injectors the truck does about 60 PSI at most. when the turbo lights and it gets into the RPM. it can go higher but i really really don't like bouncing the truck off the rev limiter.
what size s300 turbo would you recommend for a truck with stock injectors
S362sxe
Borg warner s362 for sure.
What’s the difference between a journal bearing and ball bearing turbo?
A ball bearing rides on tiny steel balls and a journal bearing rides on a thin layer of oil.
$$$$$$$
Anyone ever done an S300 60mm?
Can you just remove the vanes from the vgt to make a non vgt?
That would not work because then the exhaust gasses would not be directed to the turbine properly. If you want to turn a VGT into a non-VGT, you could just unplug the solenoid and the vanes will default to open. Then you can really enjoy the new found lag.
Curious about doing this on my LLY, what do you do about the VGT sensor? Won’t it throw a fault? Just tune it out?
Thats correct! Your options are get your tuner to remove the VGT code. or You can also just take the VGT solenoid and plug it in and just let it hang out in the valley of your engine.
One things that wasn't mentioned, and correct me if I'm wrong, is the truck needs to be egr deleted for non vgt.
In fact, vgt turbos were created because of egr, as a way to maintain boost when the egr valve opens.
thats correct, the socal billet kit i have has no hole in the up pipe for the egr
Can you just put the kit on and go or do you have to have other mods?
All you technically need is the T4 Kit and the turbo and you can install it. You will want to get your custom tunes revised, since you will no longer have a VGT actuator. Also, depending on what size turbo you decide to go with, you will want to upgrade injectors, HPOP, Etc. to maximize the benefits.
What size injectors would you recommend me going to with a s369sxe I’m currently running 175/35s
Go with 205-100s
go with 250/150s you'll make 700hp
Okay 6:09. Wtf? What size exhaust is that? It should be atleast 4 to 5" lmao
It's a 4"
10-blade VGT sounds better.
Agreed, there is almost no comparison. The It felt like a different truck in a weird way once the whistle was gone...
It sounds like a diesel. Meh. I’m putting one of these on an LS where they belong. E85 baby!
philistineau pretty sure it would be a lot harder to find an ls with a turbo than a turbo diesel with a turbo
@@philistineau We would love to see the end result of the 10 blade in your LS? Sounds Awesome!
@@philistineau Ls is just as meh
If only you could get the awesome 6.0 cackle/bark with a non vgt. Also video idea, how does the VGT turbo make the famous 6.0 bark/cackle?
fordman2288 the turbo has no effect with that. The VGT is purely the loud whistle jet engine sound you hear.
@@skating4ad It's really the 10 Blade Turbine Wheel that gives you the whistle, VGT got Nothing to do with it.
Bad Ass 6.0 Powerstroke have you heard any stock modern diesel with a straight pipe? They all have vgt turbos and they all whistle in some form. Change it to a fixed geometry and they sound completely different.
Bad Ass 6.0 Powerstroke and I’m not disagreeing with the 10 blade turbo. I have a 10 blade KC stage 1 and it definitely whistles a lot louder than a 13
@@skating4ad Well if you're referring to a complete exhaust with No Cat or No Muffler, of course your gonna hear every Damn thing coming out of that Engine. My Stock 2006 Turbo didn't whistle at all. I did just have a MBRP Cat Back at the time, with Stock Cat.