I find myself arriving at your videos on a regular basis. The topics of late in particular, are very interesting and informative. For many of us collectors, these types of videos are very helpful as well. I liked the concept in this latest video involving two other of your Reenactor friends. Looking forward to the 24 hour ration pack. Much of Canada's equipment,etc. was very much based on, or influenced by the British. I had heard that on D-Day Canadians used the same 24 hour ration pack as the British. Most photos, and written description, show Canada's rations were very similar. Thanks Rifleman Moore!
Thank you! Indeed I understand Canada did have a similar if somewhat different ration scale/composition. Though as you say some use of other rations was inevitable, especially specialised rations such as the 24 hour ration.
I first came across this "British Mess Tin Ration" in 2005 when I began researching Allied rations - the illustration at 1.59 into the presentation I first seen on page 51 of the QMC Historical Studies book and on the preceding page it says "In the only group tested which had the opportunity of comparing all three of the so-called "mess tin rations" the K Ration came off decidedly second best to the Canadian Mess Tin Ration except in regard to the method of packaging, in which respect the K Ration was considered superior. As indicated in the report however, "the group knew the identity of the rations and local patriotism might have influenced them in their decisons". I remember posting that photo on the pozzinet making enquiries back then (2005) but no further information came forth, glad to see it's finally been done!
Hah! I cobbled together an alcohol burner for walking/hiking and it did pretty much looks like the gel burner there. It's been improved since then as the little pot stands didn't balance pots and especially mess tins very well. Good stuff!
Rifleman Moore, please sorry my bad english_ I do not understand what is the manual you mention... I would like to get it. Thanks in advance and great video... again!
You can use the top that comes off of the corned beef tin to reclose it. Unless it hot enough to turn the corned beef to slurry, (I've seen this happen) or it gets submerged, it'll be fine for another day or two.
Very useful video thank you, can you tell me the size of the 3 small round tins (cheese and dripping) and the oz capacity please, where did you get these ?
Another great vid! Out of interest..... are the cheese and dripping tins originals? I have not seen them before and would like to make some repo ones. Thanks
Excellent and informative video as always. Some questions if I may. If this is the ration from 41 to 43 what did the BEF Soldier of 39-40 carry? Much the same as his predecessor of 1918? Also interested what 'the tin used for illustrative purposes' was? Been trying to find a tin to sit in my mess tin like that and wondered what this was and if its commercially available. Finally do you know of anyone making replica gel fuel stoves and the tins for the cheese and dripping? Love the channel and the films. Keep up the good work.
Just a wee question for you. My late father was recalled to the colours in 1939. He always said the cookers they used for their rations were fuelled by methylated spirits ! Was he right , or just mistaken ? TIA.
I haven't seen much for sale by way of surviving original rations. I mean they are understandably very rare. The later war brown sweets and chocolate tins and biscuit tins can be found but they are pricey. It's not really a case of knowing where you can reliably buy them but rather keeping and eye out at shows, online, etc. and taking the rare opportunties to purchase when they appear.
Very heavy to carry around 😂 should check out the ones when I joined in 92 😂 three full sized tins then we went to freeze dried then wet pouches but always get issued rats in camp before deploying on Ex and we would break them down and slimline them to cut down the weight vegans & Vegetarians were few and far between but most welcome 🙏 but they would be chewing on pills 💊 the whole ex to try and replace the meat 🍖 they were missing out on and quite a lot not able to finish the Ex
Let's get this onto a tray, nice! Oh wait wrong UA-cam channel 😁 great video
Many thanks!
I much appreciate your commitment to preserving and spreading this history.
Having s corn beef sandwich, a slab of cake,and a cup of char now
Sensible eating and lovely too
I find myself arriving at your videos on a regular basis. The topics of late in particular, are very interesting and informative. For many of us collectors, these types of videos are very helpful as well. I liked the concept in this latest video involving two other of your Reenactor friends. Looking forward to the 24 hour ration pack. Much of Canada's equipment,etc. was very much based on, or influenced by the British. I had heard that on D-Day Canadians used the same 24 hour ration pack as the British. Most photos, and written description, show Canada's rations were very similar. Thanks Rifleman Moore!
Thank you! Indeed I understand Canada did have a similar if somewhat different ration scale/composition. Though as you say some use of other rations was inevitable, especially specialised rations such as the 24 hour ration.
This is a great Episode chaps. And the collection behind looks brilliant.
Thank you, collection belongs to a friend of mine, it is indeed superb!
Strangely eager to get hold of some tea powder, or make me own.
Bloody love this channel
Glad to hear it!
Thanks for uploading! I would love to see a tour of your entire collection!!
Well this is me on the road, I'm surrounded by a friend's collection!
I first came across this "British Mess Tin Ration" in 2005 when I began researching Allied rations - the illustration at 1.59 into the presentation I first seen on page 51 of the QMC Historical Studies book and on the preceding page it says "In the only group tested which had the opportunity of comparing all three of the so-called "mess tin rations" the K Ration came off decidedly second best to the Canadian Mess Tin Ration except in regard to the method of packaging, in which respect the K Ration was considered superior. As indicated in the report however, "the group knew the identity of the rations and local patriotism might have influenced them in their decisons". I remember posting that photo on the pozzinet making enquiries back then (2005) but no further information came forth, glad to see it's finally been done!
Hah! I cobbled together an alcohol burner for walking/hiking and it did pretty much looks like the gel burner there. It's been improved since then as the little pot stands didn't balance pots and especially mess tins very well. Good stuff!
Thanks for sharing !
You are most welcome!
Rifleman Moore, please sorry my bad english_ I do not understand what is the manual you mention... I would like to get it. Thanks in advance and great video... again!
Nice to see the D-Day assault webbing in the background
The assault jerkin is indeed a very interesting piece of kit.
@@RiflemanMoore Will there be a video on that? Contents, usage and the role of the beach groups?
Very possibly in the future, yes.
You can use the top that comes off of the corned beef tin to reclose it. Unless it hot enough to turn the corned beef to slurry, (I've seen this happen) or it gets submerged, it'll be fine for another day or two.
Very useful video thank you, can you tell me the size of the 3 small round tins (cheese and dripping) and the oz capacity please, where did you get these ?
Another great vid! Out of interest..... are the cheese and dripping tins originals? I have not seen them before and would like to make some repo ones. Thanks
Thanks! The cheese and dripping tins are reproduction I'm afraid.
Excellent and informative video as always. Some questions if I may. If this is the ration from 41 to 43 what did the BEF Soldier of 39-40 carry? Much the same as his predecessor of 1918? Also interested what 'the tin used for illustrative purposes' was? Been trying to find a tin to sit in my mess tin like that and wondered what this was and if its commercially available. Finally do you know of anyone making replica gel fuel stoves and the tins for the cheese and dripping? Love the channel and the films. Keep up the good work.
On the helmet behind you is a white band I have seen this on photo's what are they fore
I'd say 'beach/brick group' - on D-Day they landed in first wave & wore the white line on helmet.
As stated it designated personnel in beach groups during the Normandy landings.
My great uncle was in the army and used to call corned beef "desert chicken ".
The Modern Soldier still works in pairs Cooking 🧑🍳 & hootching/bashering up 😂
Just a wee question for you. My late father was recalled to the colours in 1939. He always said the cookers they used for their rations were fuelled by methylated spirits ! Was he right , or just mistaken ? TIA.
Good video
Many thanks.
Is it easy to get ahold of one of those little burners? I'd like one for the kit I'm building.
No, unfortunately not, this was from scratch for the setup.
@@RiflemanMoore Someone in your club made this? I 'd like to give it a try. Would love to see a closer view!
Idiotic that the tins were round when space is at a premium, and square packaging is so much more space efficient.
Great video but somehow I don't think I would want to try fighting for 48hrs on the calorific content of that ration.
Did the Canadians use there own rations
Indeed I believe the Canadian Army had its own ration scale which was similar but not identical to the British system.
Were can I get a processed cheese tin and a spread tin
These were just screw top tins purchased online with home made decals applied.
Do you know any websites that might sell reproductions of these tins?
I'm afraid not.
Rifleman Moore Thank you anyways.
this is fascinating! With the hive of interest in MRE's recently thanks to ''Steve1989 'Nice' mreInfo''
Indeed, we hoped it would be of interest!
Do you know where to acquire wartime WD rations ?
Original or reproduction? In terms of reproducing them it's really a case of making your own.
@@RiflemanMoore original rations, as I have made my own for puplic displays.
I haven't seen much for sale by way of surviving original rations. I mean they are understandably very rare. The later war brown sweets and chocolate tins and biscuit tins can be found but they are pricey. It's not really a case of knowing where you can reliably buy them but rather keeping and eye out at shows, online, etc. and taking the rare opportunties to purchase when they appear.
@@RiflemanMoore thank you for your reply. I will keep my eyes out in the future for them.
@@RiflemanMoore did your friend make the tea ration or was it original? I know typhoo sell instaint tea.
Very heavy to carry around 😂 should check out the ones when I joined in 92 😂 three full sized tins then we went to freeze dried then wet pouches but always get issued rats in camp before deploying on Ex and we would break them down and slimline them to cut down the weight vegans & Vegetarians were few and far between but most welcome 🙏 but they would be chewing on pills 💊 the whole ex to try and replace the meat 🍖 they were missing out on and quite a lot not able to finish the Ex
British rations always looked much nicer than most other nations