The Shot Links guy by the green ended up tweeting that Kang cheated as well. Basically his shot was trying to cut the corner and he pulled it left. So it crossed the hazard 220 yards from the hole and never made it back into play. Kang argued that it came back in play and crossed the hazard again up by the green.
I'm hesitant to call someone a cheater over one incident... I don't think Sung has had any other accusations of cheating. One incident does not make someone an overall cheater. But I'm definitely here with Joel on this... he did the right thing to call him out.
DrkViol801 These shot trackers are not as accurate as advertised. I see all the time on tour where ball doesn’t actually end up where shot tracer indicated.
DrkViol801 there are people on every hole at a certain position with a range finder and a map of the hole gridded off. The stats come from those folks. You shoot the ball from your position and report the yardage and the grid coordinates it’s in. You put it in a handheld device setup for your hole. I’ve done it for the RSM in St Simons. You have a radio as well. Let’s say someone hits a bomb. Guy comes on radio and asks you for the details. He then slips the yardage to the guys on tv so they can tell the tv audience DJ just hit it 330 etc .
Shotlink Michael Klock “From my vantage point next to the green in the back, Kangs second shot was very far left and at no point ever came close to being in play from the point of entry”. Onlooker Bob Yosai said to his wife “that guys dead he’ll have to drop from way back there” referring to kangs shot. “Left fairway marshal agreed as did left field green marshal agreed with Klock” I’m sorry but this guy cheated lmao
I remember this incident. You'd be surprised how common stuff like this is on tour. Players don't want to call others out. Go watch Brooks Koepka talk about it. PGA doesn't want the word cheating to come out because there are players who cheat, like Patrick Reed. Other players don't want to call others out because they are too focused on what they are doing, and it shouldn't be their job to police other players. Good on Joel for stepping up.
I totally get the idea of cheating in golf. Whether its blatant or overly hedging the rules of golf in your favor. The thing that blows my mind the most, especially in Reeds scenario, is that its all on CAMERA! How do you think you're getting away from stuff when there is a camera crew watching you hit and you're basically mic'd up?
Lmao this is not cheating it’s up to a player where his ball crossed the hazard even if everyone thinks his wrong it’s still not cheating it’s gamesmanship, see tiger woods 2013 players championship
You are unbelievably dumb the shot tracker doesn’t follow the ball flight it only tracks where the ball ends up. The line you see on shot tracker is not the actual flight path, it’s just a line connecting where it started to where it ended up
@@mullaner5933 that has nothing to do with my comment, I’m expressing amazement anyone actually thought the PGA Tour shot tracker actually shows the exact line of the shot, as opposed to a straight line connecting two points
How do you know Sung actually cheated. This incident wasn’t like the Patrick Reed one that was on camera, nobody else saw the shot and both Joel and Sung were 200+ yards out when the ball dropped. Plus there has never been any other incidents where Sung was accused of cheating nor have you heard any other player call him a cheater... At most there’s probably 50% chance Sung actually cheated.
There was no certainty that Sung cheated - Joel was possibly ruining a player’s reputation by making an allegation based on a somewhat speculative incident. If they want to discuss players who clearly are cheaters, they should discuss Patrick Reed.
Joel pulled this same thing with Berger even though shot tracer showed there’s no way it crossed where Joel said. Straight tired to rip Berger off 50 yards
i personally wouldnt use that much energy on someon else's shit, drop it i dont care lol golf is hard enough for me to waste 25 min of energy but i see his side for sure
I really liked him in grandma’s boys! Had no idea he golfed
i was thinking the same thing lmaoooo😂
What is grandmas boys?
The Shot Links guy by the green ended up tweeting that Kang cheated as well. Basically his shot was trying to cut the corner and he pulled it left. So it crossed the hazard 220 yards from the hole and never made it back into play. Kang argued that it came back in play and crossed the hazard again up by the green.
I'm hesitant to call someone a cheater over one incident... I don't think Sung has had any other accusations of cheating. One incident does not make someone an overall cheater. But I'm definitely here with Joel on this... he did the right thing to call him out.
Why is there no video footage of the shot to put the whole thing to bed once and for all?
because there were no cameras, if you follow the shotracker for Kang he really did cheat.
DrkViol801 These shot trackers are not as accurate as advertised. I see all the time on tour where ball doesn’t actually end up where shot tracer indicated.
@@Mr.mallaer wrong they're 100 percent accurate how else do you think they get accurate stats. Dude the laser tracks the ball ...
DrkViol801 there are people on every hole at a certain position with a range finder and a map of the hole gridded off. The stats come from those folks. You shoot the ball from your position and report the yardage and the grid coordinates it’s in. You put it in a handheld device setup for your hole. I’ve done it for the RSM in St Simons. You have a radio as well. Let’s say someone hits a bomb. Guy comes on radio and asks you for the details. He then slips the yardage to the guys on tv so they can tell the tv audience DJ just hit it 330 etc .
@@drkviol8013 100% accurate lol
Shotlink Michael Klock “From my vantage point next to the green in the back, Kangs second shot was very far left and at no point ever came close to being in play from the point of entry”. Onlooker Bob Yosai said to his wife “that guys dead he’ll have to drop from way back there” referring to kangs shot. “Left fairway marshal agreed as did left field green marshal agreed with Klock” I’m sorry but this guy cheated lmao
I remember this incident. You'd be surprised how common stuff like this is on tour. Players don't want to call others out. Go watch Brooks Koepka talk about it. PGA doesn't want the word cheating to come out because there are players who cheat, like Patrick Reed. Other players don't want to call others out because they are too focused on what they are doing, and it shouldn't be their job to police other players. Good on Joel for stepping up.
I totally get the idea of cheating in golf. Whether its blatant or overly hedging the rules of golf in your favor. The thing that blows my mind the most, especially in Reeds scenario, is that its all on CAMERA! How do you think you're getting away from stuff when there is a camera crew watching you hit and you're basically mic'd up?
sounds like this guy is lying. he just doesnt want to admit kang was outdriving him. just go ahead and live your life.
Lmao this is not cheating it’s up to a player where his ball crossed the hazard even if everyone thinks his wrong it’s still not cheating it’s gamesmanship, see tiger woods 2013 players championship
Gotta protect the field...everyone knows the rules
His shirt is fantastic
I hate when people cheat. Golf
Is built on integrity
Absolutely did the right thing!!!! Add him to the list of people like Reed and Singh!!!
And Eldrick.
Joel, U said yourself it was close? Should have had the rule official make the final decision?
Yeh that’s so odd. “In his defence it was super close. But there’s no chance it crossed” 😂 those two statements don’t matchup.
Did the 1% go to Liv golf
They play at pebble 👀
I can't believe he got caught cheating
Sung Kang is a cheater , no question. Look at his shottracker
You are unbelievably dumb the shot tracker doesn’t follow the ball flight it only tracks where the ball ends up. The line you see on shot tracker is not the actual flight path, it’s just a line connecting where it started to where it ended up
@@TheLocalLt the shot was straight into the hazard tho multiple people have state this including officials not only joel
@@mullaner5933 that has nothing to do with my comment, I’m expressing amazement anyone actually thought the PGA Tour shot tracker actually shows the exact line of the shot, as opposed to a straight line connecting two points
Mad respect for Joel Dahmen for standing up against cheating.
How do you know Sung actually cheated. This incident wasn’t like the Patrick Reed one that was on camera, nobody else saw the shot and both Joel and Sung were 200+ yards out when the ball dropped. Plus there has never been any other incidents where Sung was accused of cheating nor have you heard any other player call him a cheater... At most there’s probably 50% chance Sung actually cheated.
What’s the other c word?
Rory played thru Phil and co in the late evening in the PGA he won
Joined*
inaccurate.
Played up. Not thru
sounds like this guy is lying.
Joel ! You don’t gain anything when you talk about other player’ back. Be cool Joel
Sung Kang isn’t cool for that
OG Joel
There was no certainty that Sung cheated - Joel was possibly ruining a player’s reputation by making an allegation based on a somewhat speculative incident. If they want to discuss players who clearly are cheaters, they should discuss Patrick Reed.
All parties who were there say Kang cheated. Not discussing Reed, who is always discussed, doesnt make this untrue.
Donal Trump
@@chrisp1961You spelled BUYden and the Dems wrong, Libfuck.
Joel pulled this same thing with Berger even though shot tracer showed there’s no way it crossed where Joel said. Straight tired to rip Berger off 50 yards
That’s a tough one idk this guy is kinda weird too
You're such a racist. You don't know him.
Sung totally cheated
Any hard evidence? Other than the words from just one single player?
Vic Su they had the shot link
@@vic_0315 fairway marshal said the drop was incorrect from his ball flight
i personally wouldnt use that much energy on someon else's shit, drop it i dont care lol golf is hard enough for me to waste 25 min of energy but i see his side for sure
Millions of dollars would change your mind
This guy seems like a bitter ex
for playing the game correctly and not letting someone cheat? you’re weird dude
wtf is Joel damen?