The Core 13 is great concept. And my guide over the last couple of year’s. I hike Central Rockies and Western Basins in the US, so my mix and match is different for every trip but sticking to 13 makes it simpler to put some control on underdressing or under. I do quibble on the sleep set; they should be as good as the rest of you kit in case they get pressed into day wear.
Nice video. I would agree that there are way too many choices out there. I've never been much of rain pants or insulated pants kind of guy but if it works for you then do it. Great tips!
Thank you for the real informative video. I only take fleece on my shorter journeys. Or if i know there's somewhere i can wash it on a longer trex. See you on the trail Andrew.
Railriders Ecomesh pants are my favorite, and I'm sure others make something similar. Perhaps REI makes some? The RR Ecomesh are excellent. I use them in the southwest parks and in the Sierra, and especially on the summer in NH's Whites to fend off the mosquitos and ticks. The pants are lightweight as Andrew described, but they're not too durable for bushwhacking or off-trail. I have rotated 2-pair of these for 10-years or so, and they've held up very well. Mine originally came pre-treated with insect shield, but I got them revitalized by insect shield about 3 years ago. For a more durable, but not ventilated pants for bushwhacking, I love the Railriders Extreme Adventure and their Bushwhacker Weatherpants. I believe they both come treated with Insect Shield, if not, definitely send them out. Both are excellent pants. Like the ecomesh, I've had them for years, and hundreds of miles in them.
Are cagoules better than ponchos? I have a NOLS (National Outdoor Leadership School) book which recommended a cagoule as superior to ponchos for rain protection.
4:02 why no abrasion or water resistant panels, or wind blocking membranes for the midlayer fleece? Is this just saying that stuff is unnecessary or is there a reason to actively avoid? I have a fleece that I bought before I started assembling a backpacking clothing collection and it does have some panels that run from the shoulders down the arms, I guess they are for wind and water resistance. Would this be a problem?
little late to the party but the reason for taking the most simple fleece available is as follows: cheaper, more lightweight, more versatile, faster drying time (faster w/o elasthane content). I mean whats the reason behind having abrasion resistant panels on something as abrasion resistant as a 100 weight fleece? You're backpacking after all and not rock climbing, aren't you :) and wind blocking membrane is like every membrane: not breathable (at all), at least to my experience. it is better to leave the fleece as simple as possible and pair it with a very lightweight windshell. this way you even have more versatility by wearing each item separately or combined.
Notes taken! I've often thought about taking with me an insulated skirt instead of pants for winter camping. The skirt with a side zipper would be much easier to just throw over your trousers. Any thoughts?
Puffy jackets are easy to find. SD makes a nice parka that is perfect for the summer in the Mountain West and for the spring, fall, and possibly the winter in warmer climates. Puffy pants are available from Montbell, WM, and MH, plus a few others. They are harder to find.
@@anonymouscommenter2278 The rain jacket has zero breathability. A jacket dedicated to the wind, a light windbreaker or softshell, has a breathability from 5 to 40 times a rain shell.
"Is that a rain cloud over there?" lol, smooth! Great video :)
The Core 13 is great concept. And my guide over the last couple of year’s. I hike Central Rockies and Western Basins in the US, so my mix and match is different for every trip but sticking to 13 makes it simpler to put some control on underdressing or under. I do quibble on the sleep set; they should be as good as the rest of you kit in case they get pressed into day wear.
I'm surprised that a set of synthetic thermal underwear weren't mentioned. I've found them to be very useful especially in layering situations.
Great to see your Core 13 in video form. Thanks
Nate
Nice video. I would agree that there are way too many choices out there. I've never been much of rain pants or insulated pants kind of guy but if it works for you then do it. Great tips!
Thank you for the real informative video. I only take fleece on my shorter journeys. Or if i know there's somewhere i can wash it on a longer trex. See you on the trail Andrew.
inspiration and very very practical advice. I spent 8 days in maritime Alps and I thank you, Bro
Pants with side-zip mesh - that was new to me.
Railriders Ecomesh pants are my favorite, and I'm sure others make something similar. Perhaps REI makes some? The RR Ecomesh are excellent. I use them in the southwest parks and in the Sierra, and especially on the summer in NH's Whites to fend off the mosquitos and ticks. The pants are lightweight as Andrew described, but they're not too durable for bushwhacking or off-trail. I have rotated 2-pair of these for 10-years or so, and they've held up very well. Mine originally came pre-treated with insect shield, but I got them revitalized by insect shield about 3 years ago. For a more durable, but not ventilated pants for bushwhacking, I love the Railriders Extreme Adventure and their Bushwhacker Weatherpants. I believe they both come treated with Insect Shield, if not, definitely send them out. Both are excellent pants. Like the ecomesh, I've had them for years, and hundreds of miles in them.
Does anyone know where to find these pants????
Thank you Andrew, to the point as usual. Any links for the stuff you are showing? Especially the pants with the side mesh: interesting! Cheers
count me too,I'd like to know also
Fantastic video. Andrew says it best. Why do we complicate things..
Are cagoules better than ponchos? I have a NOLS (National Outdoor Leadership School) book which recommended a cagoule as superior to ponchos for rain protection.
Anyone have any good video recommendations on how to pack all this and make it fit in the backpack
4:02 why no abrasion or water resistant panels, or wind blocking membranes for the midlayer fleece? Is this just saying that stuff is unnecessary or is there a reason to actively avoid? I have a fleece that I bought before I started assembling a backpacking clothing collection and it does have some panels that run from the shoulders down the arms, I guess they are for wind and water resistance. Would this be a problem?
little late to the party but the reason for taking the most simple fleece available is as follows: cheaper, more lightweight, more versatile, faster drying time (faster w/o elasthane content). I mean whats the reason behind having abrasion resistant panels on something as abrasion resistant as a 100 weight fleece? You're backpacking after all and not rock climbing, aren't you :) and wind blocking membrane is like every membrane: not breathable (at all), at least to my experience. it is better to leave the fleece as simple as possible and pair it with a very lightweight windshell. this way you even have more versatility by wearing each item separately or combined.
Didn't talk socks!
Solid information.
Notes taken!
I've often thought about taking with me an insulated skirt instead of pants for winter camping. The skirt with a side zipper would be much easier to just throw over your trousers. Any thoughts?
Jari Perho Get insulated pants with three-quarter zios, or at least shin zips. Skirt would be very drafty.
Easier of you gotta drop a duce
socks/hat/s /gloves?
Was wandering about those. Now core 16
Couldn't survive without
#14-Gloves #15-socks nor without #16-hats :)
Was the yellow raincoat, you were wearing, Outdry Extreme?
MRo Yes, it was. I appreciate what they are doing with the non-DWR fabric.
Could you tell us the brands and models of the Down Jacket and Insulated Pants from your video? Thanks!
Puffy jackets are easy to find. SD makes a nice parka that is perfect for the summer in the Mountain West and for the spring, fall, and possibly the winter in warmer climates. Puffy pants are available from Montbell, WM, and MH, plus a few others. They are harder to find.
@@skurkaandrew Why insulated pants instead of long johns?
Why does Andrew Skurka never talk about off season clothing and gear? :(
No wind proof jacket? why?
No need. Rain jackets also repel wind.
@@anonymouscommenter2278 The rain jacket has zero breathability. A jacket dedicated to the wind, a light windbreaker or softshell, has a breathability from 5 to 40 times a rain shell.
@@alphaartax1044 The jacket fabric does have some breathability: www.columbia.com/tech-waterproof/