i think grims problem is not with the gun and just with his ability. its only useful in super specific situations and thats why i think the 1.5 isnt enough to make grim even remotely viable
@@sezi7579 This might be a team based game but most of the playerbase, except the very top play this like CoD, just shoot and kill (of course there are exceptions where you can get a game where people actually work together and use their brains but it's probably 1 in 10 chance from my experience). So the buff to his gunfight potential is pretty big. Imo a good buff for his ability would be to make it deal DoT damage unless the target isn't moving or at least slow walking, so the defender has to choose between taking like 50 damage or being a very easy target.
MY buff for Grim's Gadget: -Cloud lasts longer (10-15seconds). To ballance this, he gets fewer, and/or they generate as the match progresses, like Lesion or Wamai. -The first defender to walk through it gets real-time pinged for up to 3 seconds after exiting. Anyone after that gets Jackal-pinged, even if previous cool down has ended. This makes the a MUCH bigger deterrent than before, while giving Grim more aggressive options. It also lets Clash be a soft-counter by tanking the real time ping to reduce pressure on her teammates!
>To ballance this, he gets fewer, and/or they generate as the match progresses That's a nerf, the whole point of grim is to get info in many areas and close them down for a push, if he has less bee balls but last longer his gadget is less effective, if they generate slowly he is even less effective.
2:54 This happened to me one time as Flores when the servers were laggy Once the servers lagged in drone mode, Once the drone detonates you'd be stuck in that position for the entire round
I'm skeptical about the decision to increase damage with the extended barrel. For guns like the Roni it would be a must pick attachment since the extra general damage would technically mitigate some the effects from the mag cap nerf. It's not like you're losing much by not choosing the flash hider anyway. If they do take away the F2 vertical, hopefully they give her something more than just +1 drone. Maybe the angled grip in exchange.
@@thestar37 it won't tho, even with the barrel it's still a 4 dmg nerf, it'd be fine if the barrel did even it out or go a little above but it doesn't. Whats the point of using a suppressor on frost now?
@@Smallahz with that weapons low recoil and 1.5 ha is still not that hard to get. Haven't done the math but don't know how many more bullets u would need for each armor rating.
In my opinion, Grim should have the same purpose as Nomad, but an indestructable flank watch. The bees could do like a Jackal track so you know when its deployed and if youre flanked. Something in that direction is the only way I can see him being played.
Twitch doesn't need more drones, Frost didn't need a nerf, Grim is still useless and now the Extended Barrel change is gonna make the TTK higher without recoil control? What's the trade here this is a cqc game
Players are gun-n-running with the F2, instead of using her gadget to destroy utility. Besides, the recoil is still controllable if you actually put the effort on the shooting range.
@@D4rKR420R yeah I use her for her gun and her gadget and I haven’t even tried it without the vertical grip but I should be fine without it hopefully lol
Giving grim a sight..... Because that's what he needed lol. Rework grim and senses gadget and fix the pof recoil. Give mav nades back and buck nobody has nades anymore. Put external softwalls on maps so attack is viable.
No they shouldn't because that will create an even larger hacker player base than the games already got. It'll make a marketplace for accounts with crazy renown and hackers will just be running around aimbotting the entire lobby.
Not that much but yeah definitely a cool incentive to do good. Or base a bonus 20 renown per kill, give you a boost for doing good on top of supporting the team
They didn’t need any weapon changes they needs a buff on grim’s gadget like a longer duration or have it permanent but he only has 2-3 and you can shoot the capsule they come out of to destroy it all kinda like a nomad’s gadget
I think that if the gadget activate like Nomad airjab also work He will be a really good counter to roamer and post plant play With this he can only have 3 just like Nomad to balance it out The problem of him is his gadget, need to change between weapon to use it and you will be vulnerable while to use it
@@skeezzii3024 ela is not that good of a pic rn, If you play her, than probably with the scorpion. I dont see a point playing Ela with shotgun on roaming. Yes with extended barrel the damage is quite good but you play it on close range anyways so it wouldnt quite effect the gun and its use by much yk?
Ok I like the idea of increased damage on the stendo barrel but I think 15% is way too high considering that Ubi nerfs guns by reducing their damage on order of just 1 or 2 damage points where this increases it by 6 or maybe 7 points of damage. I think it should probably be toned down to like 10% or maybe 8%
I hope they see that the twitch change is a mistake and will be soon changed again. Ubi always dissapoint with their mindset, i can understand that they want twitch as a support but thats not the way, good players use well her ability. If some players are brainless they will keep doing the same shit with twitch. In some games i saw ace/thermite fragging and die the first. Ubi wake up
Ubisoft!!!!! It's not the weapon Grim has it's the ability needs a buff and also THE 1.5 DOES NOT FIX EVERYTHING and why are they removing the vertical grip from the F2 its has one of the worst recoil in the game???? Smh ubisoft....
@@smokeyjoseph1790 why couldn’t they just nerf extended barrel for her? I don’t understand how it balances anything ? Her gun shoots the slowest so now it’s even worse
@@smokeyjoseph1790 ah yes but now there's a ton of attacker weapons that can 2 shot now with extended barrel: Arx200 Para308 552commando There's probably even more but I can think of any
Buff Grim Idea: Cloud the opponent’s vision by 75% with swarming bees for 5 seconds if the player steps into Grim’s gadget. Or like Lesion, damage the enemy player with 2 hp per second unless they stop for a second to swat the bees away. I feel like Grim’s gadget is just too one-sided, compared to Lesion with his gu’s that makes a loud sound and damage ticks. What do you guys think?
Calling adding a 2.0 to grim doesn't add a buff, he's still ass... adding a sight makes his gun more useful but it doesn't do much of anything. No one got buffed, they nerfed mostly everything, made the extended barrel more useful and didn't really add anything for face value, it's honestly the worse patch I've seen in a long time.
Mm really short of changes. Perhaps because S.I is soon and they don't wanna change to much. And wouldn't be first time they took it easy with updates before that :p
Grim’s gadget needs to be rework into a explosive how often is that shitty bee canister gonna even work or majority of the time everyone is moving around or holding angles where u peak site your dead
I play on ps4 I’ve played since the beta. Yesterday I hopped on for the first time in a couple weeks. The server got DDoS and I died to a zim shortly after. Long story short I’m done with siege deleted that shit I’m so fed up with the garbage changes feel like idk anybodys recoil anymore I’m just good. Peace boobisoft it was a good 6 to 7 years we had.. :(
i think grims problem is not with the gun and just with his ability. its only useful in super specific situations and thats why i think the 1.5 isnt enough to make grim even remotely viable
At least now with the extended barrel buff the commando can 2 shot 2 hp targets + now he has the 1.5.
Might not be a bad option for entry fragging
@@bing4580 the problem is he just brings no utility in a team based game. This change is gonna be great for entrees but probably not for anyone else
Honestly I agree, but at least he can gunfight now. Having a non-shield attacker with no magnification on either primary was just unacceptable.
@@sezi7579 This might be a team based game but most of the playerbase, except the very top play this like CoD, just shoot and kill (of course there are exceptions where you can get a game where people actually work together and use their brains but it's probably 1 in 10 chance from my experience). So the buff to his gunfight potential is pretty big.
Imo a good buff for his ability would be to make it deal DoT damage unless the target isn't moving or at least slow walking, so the defender has to choose between taking like 50 damage or being a very easy target.
@@sezi7579 no utility but he can live ping enemies and also take control of areas with the bees as they would have to move away
MY buff for Grim's Gadget:
-Cloud lasts longer (10-15seconds). To ballance this, he gets fewer, and/or they generate as the match progresses, like Lesion or Wamai.
-The first defender to walk through it gets real-time pinged for up to 3 seconds after exiting. Anyone after that gets Jackal-pinged, even if previous cool down has ended.
This makes the a MUCH bigger deterrent than before, while giving Grim more aggressive options. It also lets Clash be a soft-counter by tanking the real time ping to reduce pressure on her teammates!
>To ballance this, he gets fewer, and/or they generate as the match progresses
That's a nerf, the whole point of grim is to get info in many areas and close them down for a push, if he has less bee balls but last longer his gadget is less effective, if they generate slowly he is even less effective.
the bees should sting imo cuz then the defenders have to move out of their spots or maybe even the bees can follow the players but slowly ofc
@@raymondli150 they get true pinged anyway while inside
His ability should also be able to ping other ops gadgets that be very viable buff in my opinion
Twitch's gun recoil is already so hard to control, Ubisoft must be stupid.
It isnt
go into the shooting range for like 5-10 mins and just control it lol
If it's hard to control u just suck
😂
It's not super hard but this nerf was unnecessary
The worst mid patch I ever seen, BUGISOFT EXIST
Who cares
Literally made extended barrel super viable and game changing
Yet y’all cry….
Yeah whatever
@@Eldron2027 that's just the siege community in general
@@ztdk_true
Truly sad
I love all the names for ubi exist
2:54
This happened to me one time as Flores when the servers were laggy
Once the servers lagged in drone mode, Once the drone detonates you'd be stuck in that position for the entire round
That’s exactly what happened to me
I'm skeptical about the decision to increase damage with the extended barrel. For guns like the Roni it would be a must pick attachment since the extra general damage would technically mitigate some the effects from the mag cap nerf. It's not like you're losing much by not choosing the flash hider anyway. If they do take away the F2 vertical, hopefully they give her something more than just +1 drone. Maybe the angled grip in exchange.
8:31 Homer Simpson
Ubi always had 4 choices
A-nerf Blackbeard
B-Nerf ele
C-Nerf twich
D-Select all
I swear ubi just picks random things out of a hat sometimes just to mess with us. 😩
Grim "buff" is "This is fine" meme visualised
They made Grim slightly less useless, and mad Iana and Capitao broken. Those two will kill in two bodyshots now.
What happened with Iana and capital?
@@toothlessthenightfury2088 extended
@@whambunger oh
Arx can't run extended grip. But her G36 can with 43 damage. Basically a slightly better M4.
@@Literally_Corn M4 with extended has 51 damage
Twitch does not need anything done to her she is balanced as she is, and taking away the fore grip and adding an extra drone literally just nerfs her.
Gerudo valley is so iconic
The music selection on this is top tier good job man you nailed every section
no vert grip on f2 😢
Why is frost getting a nerf? She's actually viable now and they nerf her?
Prob because with extended barrel u still make up for this :p otherwise it would be even more hard hitting.
@@thestar37 it won't tho, even with the barrel it's still a 4 dmg nerf, it'd be fine if the barrel did even it out or go a little above but it doesn't. Whats the point of using a suppressor on frost now?
yeah any time any operator is remotely viable, they just nerf them cause they dont want us to have fun
@@Smallahz with that weapons low recoil and 1.5 ha is still not that hard to get. Haven't done the math but don't know how many more bullets u would need for each armor rating.
Exactly, her gun shoots insanely slow and they nerf it? So now low damage with like 500rpm ????
1:46 pulse has been ezio'd
Im wait for this cmt :D
1:11 I'm the guy who plays that Osa
ela shotgun long barrel?
This is your best edited video. Super nice.
In my opinion, Grim should have the same purpose as Nomad, but an indestructable flank watch. The bees could do like a Jackal track so you know when its deployed and if youre flanked. Something in that direction is the only way I can see him being played.
love your vids, do you play by your self
Poor frost man
Gun went from pea shooter to meme beam and back to pea shooter
Are the songs from 'Good Knight Productions' free to use?
If yes il start using them
Twitch doesn't need more drones, Frost didn't need a nerf, Grim is still useless and now the Extended Barrel change is gonna make the TTK higher without recoil control? What's the trade here this is a cqc game
Quite funny they didn't touched 48 dmg of sg552 to prevent 55 dmg
Does that have extended available?
@@thestar37 yes it does. The 552 commando will now 2 shot kill 2 speeds with extended barrel. Making it by far, if not the best gun in the game.
It’s fucking ridiculous; but got forbid frost
@@Maestro-pr4eg like I don’t get it
@@Maestro-pr4eg actually try the SC300K
2:00 bro just turn siege into mission impossible movie
WOOOOO Thank you, Jäger Himself Too.
lol that nomad
That amaru clip was clean
Ty 😊
Why remove vert from twitch?
Wait they removed Vertical Grip from Twitch Why?
It’s too good I guess, seems they people to go get for the drones not gun
Players are gun-n-running with the F2, instead of using her gadget to destroy utility. Besides, the recoil is still controllable if you actually put the effort on the shooting range.
@@D4rKR420R yeah I use her for her gun and her gadget and I haven’t even tried it without the vertical grip but I should be fine without it hopefully lol
@@D4rKR420R it actually is harder to control and more annoying
@@D4rKR420R ua-cam.com/video/YL88qJdVuds/v-deo.html
Someone knows the song's name in 8:17? Please
team shanghai alice | Necrofantasia
whats the music in first clip ?
What song is that on where you show the grim buff?
trap ocarina | dj l-banga
When is it coming out?
Shadow buff of Buck gadget now getting damage increase to go with the range increase from extendy barrel 🤘
6:39 THAT COUNTS AS A KILL?!
Yeah, whoever downs the person gets credit for the kill, her C4 ended up detonating after she got downed by Blitz, so he got the kill
Giving grim a sight..... Because that's what he needed lol. Rework grim and senses gadget and fix the pof recoil. Give mav nades back and buck nobody has nades anymore. Put external softwalls on maps so attack is viable.
Literally like 2 attackers have nades plus recruit
@@generic_tough_guy.4830 fr nobody has nades anymore
The sg552 is now gonna be able to 2 tap people but that doesn’t get nerfed? But frosts 500rpm does
I almost never see frost anyway why bother touching her gun? If anything it's the traps that people hate not the gun
Other Games: helping new players, making the game better
Ubisoft: Buffing every gun to 1 damage, creating bad opps
ela shotgun terror is back
They should give 2500 renoun if you ace on any round
That’s actually creative
No they shouldn't because that will create an even larger hacker player base than the games already got. It'll make a marketplace for accounts with crazy renown and hackers will just be running around aimbotting the entire lobby.
Not that much but yeah definitely a cool incentive to do good. Or base a bonus 20 renown per kill, give you a boost for doing good on top of supporting the team
Why would the remove the only thing holding the F2 weapon man
Can someone remind me of one time when patches receive positive feedback from players?
Sure i can do this when Ubi isnt stupid anymore
They didn’t need any weapon changes they needs a buff on grim’s gadget like a longer duration or have it permanent but he only has 2-3 and you can shoot the capsule they come out of to destroy it all kinda like a nomad’s gadget
JagerHimself be like grim is getting buff with 2 scopes. Preview of the video: grim is holding his launcher
I think that if the gadget activate like Nomad airjab also work
He will be a really good counter to roamer and post plant play
With this he can only have 3 just like Nomad to balance it out
The problem of him is his gadget, need to change between weapon to use it and you will be vulnerable while to use it
why tf whould u remove vert grip from twitch
Did i missunderstood that? Removed vertical From f2!?
Why nerf frost ?
what a big buff
My F2 :((
Thats stupid, F2 is not ez to control, but ubi remove the vertical grip... Aaa... That.. ridiculous
Frost is now useless twitch too. Buck is overpowered
Her gun shoots so slow I don’t get the nerf
@@squidy4082 she’s got one of the best guns on defense. Like it doesn’t matter about the speed if the damage is that high, no recoil and 1.5
I’m kinda scared of how this will impact ela shotgun, I’m assuming the change is coming to that extended barrel aswell and that would be terrifying
Wouldnt change anything by much
@@zynoo9450 well currently her shotgun has very low one shot potential but with a 15% increase? That’s going to be really good
@@skeezzii3024 ela is not that good of a pic rn, If you play her, than probably with the scorpion. I dont see a point playing Ela with shotgun on roaming. Yes with extended barrel the damage is quite good but you play it on close range anyways so it wouldnt quite effect the gun and its use by much yk?
@@zynoo9450 15% damage buff on a shotgun is quite significant meaning less pellets needed so you may have disgusting 1 shot potential
Ok I like the idea of increased damage on the stendo barrel but I think 15% is way too high considering that Ubi nerfs guns by reducing their damage on order of just 1 or 2 damage points where this increases it by 6 or maybe 7 points of damage. I think it should probably be toned down to like 10% or maybe 8%
1:58 wtf with this rappeling?
I guess the extended barrel not being on every gun balances it out
Lol the F2 gonna be impossible to control fr
Why does Ubisoft literally always dissappint
5:40
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After this patch Ubisoft will receive a new name: Ubishit
Saman dokme😂
The Twitch Nerf? What
I hope they see that the twitch change is a mistake and will be soon changed again.
Ubi always dissapoint with their mindset, i can understand that they want twitch as a support but thats not the way, good players use well her ability.
If some players are brainless they will keep doing the same shit with twitch.
In some games i saw ace/thermite fragging and die the first.
Ubi wake up
Ubisoft!!!!! It's not the weapon Grim has it's the ability needs a buff and also THE 1.5 DOES NOT FIX EVERYTHING and why are they removing the vertical grip from the F2 its has one of the worst recoil in the game???? Smh ubisoft....
The patch is not out yet
Why did frosts gun get nerfed?! It literally shoots so slow wtf
They needed it to balance extended barrel
@@smokeyjoseph1790 why couldn’t they just nerf extended barrel for her? I don’t understand how it balances anything ? Her gun shoots the slowest so now it’s even worse
@@smokeyjoseph1790 ah yes but now there's a ton of attacker weapons that can 2 shot now with extended barrel:
Arx200
Para308
552commando
There's probably even more but I can think of any
@@goagulant9503 Arx doesn’t have it, IQ and Grim are garbage, so Capitao is the only good one there
@@goagulant9503 ARX doesn't have the extended barrel
Buff Grim Idea: Cloud the opponent’s vision by 75% with swarming bees for 5 seconds if the player steps into Grim’s gadget. Or like Lesion, damage the enemy player with 2 hp per second unless they stop for a second to swat the bees away. I feel like Grim’s gadget is just too one-sided, compared to Lesion with his gu’s that makes a loud sound and damage ticks. What do you guys think?
What did it do tho?
417 is good too i guess
So if you add a extended Barrel to a gun that already does 50dmg+ it’s gonna add 10 dmg??!
Yes, but luckily we don't have one
wtf ubisoft, stop trying to curate the game to suit XIM users and pro players
Twitch nerf is so stupid even if they would increase magazine to 30
Nerf? She now has 4 drones and nobody used the vertical grip in her famas anyways
@@Ansioso53 nobody use vertical grip? you ok?
@@KapkanHimself oh hold on, i miss read and thought horizontal... That was a Big L from My part sorry
It’s more of a buff than nerf. 4 drones is really good, too good
@@atlantisstorm393 it isnt really a good buff you already have 3 one more is not really a buff
4:12 wtf is that bro?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? if that was my killcam i'd uninstall so fucking quick
Calling adding a 2.0 to grim doesn't add a buff, he's still ass... adding a sight makes his gun more useful but it doesn't do much of anything. No one got buffed, they nerfed mostly everything, made the extended barrel more useful and didn't really add anything for face value, it's honestly the worse patch I've seen in a long time.
Mm really short of changes. Perhaps because S.I is soon and they don't wanna change to much. And wouldn't be first time they took it easy with updates before that :p
I thought... twitch already had 4 drones?
The F2 is already hard to control wtf is that change. Also why would you reduce frosts damage. This changes comes outta nowhere
Twitch F2 Nerf= Dead Operator
Sure she have 4 Drones now but she have 3 already so one more drone isnt really a buff.
IDK I can handle all guns, really all guns, but the F2 with no vertical grip will be: 💀
I think I use the sniper instead...
Can’t wait to get beamed by smg-11 with extended barrel
Recoil
@@atlantisstorm393 Everyone “Crack” these days so yeah I stand by me saying “Beamed”
I just tested it, I didn't feel any difference since that gun can melt anyone even without extended barrel
@@danstraight3165 that would be a headshot from them giving up on controlling it
@@danstraight3165 nope
Grim’s gadget needs to be rework into a explosive how often is that shitty bee canister gonna even work or majority of the time everyone is moving around or holding angles where u peak site your dead
Frost needed that nerf
They nerfed frosts gun that has like a 500rpm ?!?!
For the grim buff I think his gadget needs to be underbarrel cause the ads and swap rate takes a Di*k year
Well dear r6 community, time to shine and make ubi know this patch is 100% ass
Where do we start?
bruh they finna make operators unplayable for no reason , whats the reasoning behind twitch nerf ?
And frost
417 exists, and they did notice most of Twitch players just rush in with F2
I think im gonna use twitch dmr from now on
Did they really just gave us y1 twitch back?
I’m never running twitch again💀
The F2 was literally perfect.... Its just sad...
As a frost main, I must say, what the actual fuck
They forgot to nerf 552 for 1 damage, 2 shots is too stupid
Why they add it!! 1.5 scope is not the barrell of gun😡
Not sure what this means, but it made me laugh, so thank you.
Are you kidding me? O already had difficulties controlling the recoil of twitch, and now they do this?
I play on ps4 I’ve played since the beta. Yesterday I hopped on for the first time in a couple weeks. The server got DDoS and I died to a zim shortly after. Long story short I’m done with siege deleted that shit I’m so fed up with the garbage changes feel like idk anybodys recoil anymore I’m just good. Peace boobisoft it was a good 6 to 7 years we had.. :(
Extended barrel dmg increase? Interesting.
Nerfing frost... unreal dude
Bro just give all the defenders a 1.5 Scope
No
No, think about Maestro
@@Bucket0213 and tachanka
Yes, increase amount of drones on twitch for more cancerous slow gameplay where attackers sit still droning for 2 minutes.