I teach and do these same concepts in my Jeet Kune Do training and Jeet Kune Do is based on hitting and blocking and hitting when the opponent attacks. A lot of the stuff you're doing Adam, is basically the same principles in Jeet Kune Do, the only difference I see in your Wing Chun training is you guys don't have Jeet Kune Do footwork because we incorporate fencing and boxing, but everything else is basically the same concepts. A lot of the strikes are different too, being that we use back fist's and Flick jabs, and the 4 punch cross that we do. Everything else is the same though.
Bruce Lee's first art was Wing Chun and it became 1 of the 3 core arts (e.g., Wing Chun, Boxing, and Fencing) of JKD. According to Dan Inosanto, Bruce focused on the single trap and hit with the Pak Sao/Lop Sao being his go to trapping techniques. The main reason why Bruce built up his Popeye-like forearms was to maximize the grab and pull aspects of the Lop Sao. For example, Bruce was challenged on the set of Enter The Dragon by a stuntman, and he took up that challenge in front of about 20 witnesses. One of the witnesses was Karate champion Bob Wall (e.g., O'hara in ETD) and Wall described Lee using the Lop Sao to pull and immobilize the challenger's left arm. Bruce then jammed the challenger's lead leg and proceeded to end the fight with a series of rapid punches to the challenger's face. Trapping does work in a real fight, especially in a particular range and environment. Bruce told Dan Inosanto that, "trapping works great in a bathroom."
@@shaggydawg5419 Dan Inosanto stated that trapping is most effective in close quarters and Bruce used a bathroom as being an ideal environment for this type of combat. One of Bruce Lee's 5 Ways Of Attack is HIA or Hand Immobilization Attack. Bruce did not think of trapping as a defensive action, but as an offensive or attacking action. If your opponent puts up a barrier, remove the barrier by attacking or trapping the limb, and then blast away. If your opponent does not put up a barrier, simply fill the empty space with whatever tools (e.g., finger jab, lead hand strike, scoop kick, burning side kick) are at your disposal.
It's just like clinching both works or doesn't work in real life. By taking what's given, while stealing balance it gives us time to control the outcome, by evaluation the situation and what weapons need to be employed. Great job laying it out Adam, keep up the good work!
The Great Mongoose Archie Moore, Willie Pep, George Foreman, Roberto Duran are well known boxing genius's that always trap their opponents limbs no matter what. They where techincal masters of this skill too.
Great video. I really like the part where you talk about going against your instinct. Control the lines control the distance stop the center of wherever the force is coming from. I like all your videos
Why you are so far man.... I really wish was possible to train with you and be your student..amazing video and informations. Stay good,strong and healthy Adam..
It works within its range however, that range is disengaged and then engaged again very often. It is also not me at to be done as an end all, your supposed to utilize a trap, strike then disengage go back to mid or long distance and then to be utilized again or progressed into the grappling range. In the system that I teach we discuss 6 ranges: Projectile weapons range Blunt & edged weapons range Kicking range Punching aka striking range Trapping range Grappling range
Good stuff as always. My wing chun sifu is James demile.. there is a different understanding of shock and pressure from that era that you rarely see anymore... thank you..
I tend to agree with your point about instinct in an intentional situation. However, when you are surprised I believe in the instinct to “push away danger” and the Hicks principle. I believe that trained responses can work only after getting past the startle reflex or by awareness.
I have a couple options to these techniques that are MOST effective. I combine Muy Thai with Wing Chun in some of these 'Options.' I actually use the Opposite hand of the side that's being attacked...but I choose to keep my 'Innovative' Techniques to myself. I, like BL, have made it a Science to Branch out and create New, Quick, Dynamic, Explosive, and Effective techniques for Street protection.
Oke I'm going to ask something I know for a fact that my first respons on getting grabbed is to break loss. For example he grabs my shoulder and out of instinct I will place my ellebow against his arm and twist to the inside forcing his arm loss. When he punshes same thing I relocate the punsh by punshing or cutting into a attack. Sow what if disenging and relocating is your instinct? Do I follow up with a strike do I follow up with a grapple what's your advice for someone like me.
WC is a good self-defense art against common mid to short-range attacks thrown by average joes on the street. It, however, lacks the agile footwork, body movements, and grappling techniques needed to deal with trained strikers and grapplers.
no martial art can cover you more than 70% for what you need to do. For self defense WC gets you that 70, the other 30, you need to have enough ground game to get up. But you don't really need footwork, head movement etc, because the entire art should be geared toward surprising an attacker. He's not going to counter your counter. If you are squaring off with someone in a parking lot that's not self defense. 1, you probably need philosophy and counseling, not a different style, and 2, WC is not going to work anyway for the reasons you listed, and you will be countered to death.
@@emilianosintarias7337 I see plenty of wishful thinking and false assumptions in your view towards WC and self-defense in general. First off, just because you've managed to surprise attack someone doesn't mean that they will go down without a fight. To say that you don't need footwork, body/head movement, and counters once you have the element of surprise is quite a stretch. Secondly, like it or not, many actual fights do involve both sides squaring off and exchanging blows at some point. It IS the reality of self-defense. So if the style you practice does not prepare you for that type of situation, it is flawed as a self-defense method.
@@StevenRayW My assumptions are educated. First, obviously we are talking relative to other attributes. There is a tension between structure on one hand and footwork/head movement on the other. Traditional Karate has little head movement, Muay Thai doesn't either, wrestling neither, nor much footwork. I did not say body movement, they have precise movement, all arts do. Correct body structure is the key for self defense, most martial arts teach it. It is not the key for most forms of competition because the long time frame of fighting, and lack of surprise element allow continuous feeling out, reading, and measuring, and this creates the development of sophisticated combinations, counters, and counters of counters we see in sports. Whoever scores the first 3 -5 strikes in a sports match is not the probable winner, but that is actually who wins street encounters. In a real fight, the aim is to end the situation so you can run away asap., not avoid getting defeated, and not dominate the opponent. So, the strategy and techniques should line up with that. Are you a martial artist? Yes? Then, you are avoiding violent places, you are walking away from challenges, and you are sprinting away when chased. So what's left? Tens of thousands of CCTV captured attacks where people are suckerpunched, or hit from behind, the attacker's defenses are not up, because they are actually in the final part of their attack for them (after stalking and positional set up), which for you is the first. That's hunting. The way for prey to survive is not act like prey. Interrupting a surprise attack is a big surprise for the predator, it is hard to counter someone while you are in mid attack. and that changes what approach should be used. It has to be trained and you do need good movement, closing speed, and to train it against resistant opponents for years. But it's linear, offensive, and close quarters, and doesn't require agile footwork or head movement, You can make this approach out of many styles including boxing, but WC fits it, and in fact seems pretty much limited to this kind of application.
I think people just have unrealistic expectations about it. Boxers, wrestlers, jujitsu practitioners all hand fight and trap a little. I used basic traps a lot in karate. It just doesn’t look like ip man in real life.
Thank you Adam for the explanation. Have you done already a video where explains what are the forms for? Or will you create a video where explains it. I precipices wing Chung but only for the forms perspective without the real application
Interesting. Thanks! Obviously, it requires training to get skilled to trap and the opposite as well, not to get trapped, eventually get out of traps. Means, you need to feel when you get a chance to trap, you also need to feel when you are about to be trapped and react before it is too late. In order to get there, you need hours, days … of exercising, namely contact-training with a partner. Online-training alone might be better than nothing, if there is no other choice, but I doubt you get sufficient skills this way. Certainly not the ones Adam has. Sorry for this.
It is hard to find a good school in any martial arts that can teach applications well.. i did karate a long time ago and we learnt numeracy katas but did not understand a thing...
I sparred a friend of mine full speed full force and I used trapping and all the people watching us were quite mesmerized it can work nothing works 100% every single time but can trapping work ...absolutely it sure can
Well of course it does work and so that is why it has been developed throughout the ages. Moreover, it is the Wisdom’s’ of actual fighting or why else do you learn it if it is not effective (doesn’t serve its very purpose)? E.g. Formulas, Equations and Wisdoms are supposed to make it easier for us all (FEWX).
WING CHUN FORMS ARE GREAT!! IN TRUTH THE FORMS, TEACH YOU HOW TO MOVE CORRECTLY WITHOUT YOU KNOWING IT CONSCIOUSLY. IT IS LIKE LEARNING A LANGUAGE, YOU HEAR AND HEAR IT OVER AND OVER, IT GOES INTO YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS AUTOMATICALLY.
@M A T Uh...no. Not exactly! There are still a lot of Wing Chun Concepts in JKD, but almost as many Western Fencing concepts! And technique-wise....JKD is more western boxing than Wing Chun. So no, that is not an accurate statement. JKD is NOT just repackaged Wing Chun. And JKD is definitely a new martial art as of the late 1960's!
Hey brother you might get push back on trapping not working as a statement ... Yet ... We know that YOU KNOW trapping works because you use sensitivity to guide your strikes well ... Which is trapping. And we also know you think well so we know you can trap you jus said it ... In a way that might mislead or not you tell me. I think it depends on your opponent too. If your opponent doesn't use gate blocks at all they shell you need to adjust it can still be done. What's the skill level ... Is it street or tournament or mma or high or low level? We adapt to the situation and they just aren't the same. Double sticky hands doesn't occur with me unless it strangely does I don't hunt for double sticky hands. I do like the way your way of speaking leaves trapping open too because there are street fight traps that have a very high success level to know that may not be in wing chun. But it really depends. You would point out you do it for the attributes ... I would think. But depending on what people do ... You have different opportunities. Any type of contact where the contact is kept redirected felt anything like that is still trapping. Some trapping techniques work of course that are wing chun depending ... Pak da applications work if you don't get yourself hit too and just don't get hit many of them to any of them work. But we have to be aware you can't make things more difficult on yourself by requiring a trap just to land a hit. Most of the time you just hit ... Defend and hit ... Or adjust and hit ... Because it's easiest and most practical. You can get involved in trapping if you want it works as a technique ... Only sometimes ... But often enough ... It works as a concept a lot of the time. But we don't need to trap to go through specific trap technique just to land a lunch that's even worse than chasing hands. It's great to block or gate block I do nothing wrong with that I also I a lot of other stuff from the dictionary. But we don't chase hands because it's not practical therefore it would be even worse to chase the concept of a trap. But traps work as a technique ... As other trapping techniques outside wing chun and as wing chun concept but not a wooden technique that really works often. Wing chun helps a lot with lines and energy ... It helps that it is able to do it at closer ranges ... Just don't be wooden unless you want to be wooden and that's what the dummy is for.
because he doesn't train, doesn't spar. If you only do cardio boxing classes you will lose a boxing rules match to a karate sport fighter. His boxing might be poor, but he knows how to fight. You may throw a prettier uppercut, but you only know how to exercise.
Every fighter has some weakness and they have their strengths, learning from more than one person can help you strengthen your weakness, fix them, and sharpen your strengths
I teach and do these same concepts in my Jeet Kune Do training and Jeet Kune Do is based on hitting and blocking and hitting when the opponent attacks. A lot of the stuff you're doing Adam, is basically the same principles in Jeet Kune Do, the only difference I see in your Wing Chun training is you guys don't have Jeet Kune Do footwork because we incorporate fencing and boxing, but everything else is basically the same concepts. A lot of the strikes are different too, being that we use back fist's and Flick jabs, and the 4 punch cross that we do. Everything else is the same though.
Bruce Lee's first art was Wing Chun and it became 1 of the 3 core arts (e.g., Wing Chun, Boxing, and Fencing) of JKD. According to Dan Inosanto, Bruce focused on the single trap and hit with the Pak Sao/Lop Sao being his go to trapping techniques. The main reason why Bruce built up his Popeye-like forearms was to maximize the grab and pull aspects of the Lop Sao. For example, Bruce was challenged on the set of Enter The Dragon by a stuntman, and he took up that challenge in front of about 20 witnesses. One of the witnesses was Karate champion Bob Wall (e.g., O'hara in ETD) and Wall described Lee using the Lop Sao to pull and immobilize the challenger's left arm. Bruce then jammed the challenger's lead leg and proceeded to end the fight with a series of rapid punches to the challenger's face. Trapping does work in a real fight, especially in a particular range and environment. Bruce told Dan Inosanto that, "trapping works great in a bathroom."
your last sentence... what does it mean?
@@shaggydawg5419 Dan Inosanto stated that trapping is most effective in close quarters and Bruce used a bathroom as being an ideal environment for this type of combat. One of Bruce Lee's 5 Ways Of Attack is HIA or Hand Immobilization Attack. Bruce did not think of trapping as a defensive action, but as an offensive or attacking action. If your opponent puts up a barrier, remove the barrier by attacking or trapping the limb, and then blast away. If your opponent does not put up a barrier, simply fill the empty space with whatever tools (e.g., finger jab, lead hand strike, scoop kick, burning side kick) are at your disposal.
@@pjtheory got it. Thanks.
YES TRAPPING WORKS! George Foreman was known to do this. Trapping is a boxing technique especially in the clinch.
Yeah Kamaru Usman knocked out Masvidal with a wing chun block remover. Trapping works. Seen it work
It's just like clinching both works or doesn't work in real life. By taking what's given, while stealing balance it gives us time to control the outcome, by evaluation the situation and what weapons need to be employed. Great job laying it out Adam, keep up the good work!
your application and explanation to WC is fantastic.
The Great Mongoose Archie Moore, Willie Pep, George Foreman, Roberto Duran are well known boxing genius's that always trap their opponents limbs no matter what. They where techincal masters of this skill too.
Thanks for explaining application of forms.
Great video. I really like the part where you talk about going against your instinct. Control the lines control the distance stop the center of wherever the force is coming from. I like all your videos
Why you are so far man....
I really wish was possible to train with you and be your student..amazing video and informations.
Stay good,strong and healthy Adam..
It works within its range however, that range is disengaged and then engaged again very often. It is also not me at to be done as an end all, your supposed to utilize a trap, strike then disengage go back to mid or long distance and then to be utilized again or progressed into the grappling range.
In the system that I teach we discuss 6 ranges:
Projectile weapons range
Blunt & edged weapons range
Kicking range
Punching aka striking range
Trapping range
Grappling range
Great video! 👍💪🏻👏
That was an Awesome video! Thank you, Sifu!
There is a difference between a training system and a combat system. WHAT YOU DO IS A TRAINING SYSTEM DESIGNED TO DEVELOP A SPECIFIC SKILL
Great video, I love seeing form applications
Great teacher!!! Thank you for the time and videos they are very good' thanks Adam
Thanks, I learned some stuff👍
Good stuff as always. My wing chun sifu is James demile.. there is a different understanding of shock and pressure from that era that you rarely see anymore... thank you..
Thank you. Your lectures are awesome!
Agreed forms are useful whether one likes them or not.
in most confrontation trapping
is a reality.avoidance depends
on a fighter’s skill set..
fantastic
Good stuff! :)
When someone puts his hand on your shoulder, you have two free hands, and he only has one.
Excellent video, thanks Adam
I tend to agree with your point about instinct in an intentional situation. However, when you are surprised I believe in the instinct to “push away danger” and the Hicks principle. I believe that trained responses can work only after getting past the startle reflex or by awareness.
Subtle skills trapping sticking following leading work if you know how to make the opponent play your game...
What does take first to start practicing those technics
Thanks sensei 👌👌👍👍🥊🥊👊👊🙏🙏🥋🥋
I have a couple options to these techniques that are MOST
effective. I combine Muy Thai with Wing Chun in some of
these 'Options.' I actually use the Opposite hand of the side
that's being attacked...but I choose to keep my 'Innovative'
Techniques to myself. I, like BL, have made it a Science to
Branch out and create New, Quick, Dynamic, Explosive, and
Effective techniques for Street protection.
Oke I'm going to ask something I know for a fact that my first respons on getting grabbed is to break loss. For example he grabs my shoulder and out of instinct I will place my ellebow against his arm and twist to the inside forcing his arm loss. When he punshes same thing I relocate the punsh by punshing or cutting into a attack. Sow what if disenging and relocating is your instinct? Do I follow up with a strike do I follow up with a grapple what's your advice for someone like me.
Yes sir🙏🏾 ah on the hit there on chum kiu
great video
WC is a good self-defense art against common mid to short-range attacks thrown by average joes on the street. It, however, lacks the agile footwork, body movements, and grappling techniques needed to deal with trained strikers and grapplers.
no martial art can cover you more than 70% for what you need to do. For self defense WC gets you that 70, the other 30, you need to have enough ground game to get up. But you don't really need footwork, head movement etc, because the entire art should be geared toward surprising an attacker. He's not going to counter your counter. If you are squaring off with someone in a parking lot that's not self defense. 1, you probably need philosophy and counseling, not a different style, and 2, WC is not going to work anyway for the reasons you listed, and you will be countered to death.
@@emilianosintarias7337 I see plenty of wishful thinking and false assumptions in your view towards WC and self-defense in general. First off, just because you've managed to surprise attack someone doesn't mean that they will go down without a fight. To say that you don't need footwork, body/head movement, and counters once you have the element of surprise is quite a stretch. Secondly, like it or not, many actual fights do involve both sides squaring off and exchanging blows at some point. It IS the reality of self-defense. So if the style you practice does not prepare you for that type of situation, it is flawed as a self-defense method.
@@StevenRayW My assumptions are educated. First, obviously we are talking relative to other attributes. There is a tension between structure on one hand and footwork/head movement on the other.
Traditional Karate has little head movement, Muay Thai doesn't either, wrestling neither, nor much footwork. I did not say body movement, they have precise movement, all arts do.
Correct body structure is the key for self defense, most martial arts teach it. It is not the key for most forms of competition because the long time frame of fighting, and lack of surprise element allow continuous feeling out, reading, and measuring, and this creates the development of sophisticated combinations, counters, and counters of counters we see in sports. Whoever scores the first 3 -5 strikes in a sports match is not the probable winner, but that is actually who wins street encounters.
In a real fight, the aim is to end the situation so you can run away asap., not avoid getting defeated, and not dominate the opponent. So, the strategy and techniques should line up with that.
Are you a martial artist? Yes? Then, you are avoiding violent places, you are walking away from challenges, and you are sprinting away when chased. So what's left? Tens of thousands of CCTV captured attacks where people are suckerpunched, or hit from behind, the attacker's defenses are not up, because they are actually in the final part of their attack for them (after stalking and positional set up), which for you is the first. That's hunting.
The way for prey to survive is not act like prey. Interrupting a surprise attack is a big surprise for the predator, it is hard to counter someone while you are in mid attack. and that changes what approach should be used. It has to be trained and you do need good movement, closing speed, and to train it against resistant opponents for years. But it's linear, offensive, and close quarters, and doesn't require agile footwork or head movement,
You can make this approach out of many styles including boxing, but WC fits it, and in fact seems pretty much limited to this kind of application.
Thanks
I think people just have unrealistic expectations about it. Boxers, wrestlers, jujitsu practitioners all hand fight and trap a little. I used basic traps a lot in karate. It just doesn’t look like ip man in real life.
Thank you Adam for the explanation. Have you done already a video where explains what are the forms for? Or will you create a video where explains it. I precipices wing Chung but only for the forms perspective without the real application
Interesting. Thanks!
Obviously, it requires training to get skilled to trap and the opposite as well, not to get trapped, eventually get out of traps.
Means, you need to feel when you get a chance to trap, you also need to feel when you are about to be trapped and react before it is too late.
In order to get there, you need hours, days … of exercising, namely contact-training with a partner.
Online-training alone might be better than nothing, if there is no other choice, but I doubt you get sufficient skills this way. Certainly not the ones Adam has.
Sorry for this.
It is hard to find a good school in any martial arts that can teach applications well.. i did karate a long time ago and we learnt numeracy katas but did not understand a thing...
Don’t look for a trap but if the opportunity presents itself take it
I sparred a friend of mine full speed full force and I used trapping and all the people watching us were quite mesmerized it can work nothing works 100% every single time but can trapping work ...absolutely it sure can
Kune kuite says hit where you see motion.
Well of course it does work and so that is why it has been developed throughout the ages. Moreover, it is the Wisdom’s’ of actual fighting or why else do you learn it if it is not effective (doesn’t serve its very purpose)? E.g. Formulas, Equations and Wisdoms are supposed to make it easier for us all (FEWX).
WING CHUN FORMS ARE GREAT!! IN TRUTH THE FORMS, TEACH YOU HOW TO MOVE CORRECTLY WITHOUT YOU KNOWING IT CONSCIOUSLY. IT IS LIKE LEARNING A LANGUAGE, YOU HEAR AND HEAR IT OVER AND OVER, IT GOES INTO YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS AUTOMATICALLY.
Great
Good stuff! The whole first half could have been a JKD video! ;-)
@M A T Uh...no. Not exactly! There are still a lot of Wing Chun Concepts in JKD, but almost as many Western Fencing concepts! And technique-wise....JKD is more western boxing than Wing Chun. So no, that is not an accurate statement. JKD is NOT just repackaged Wing Chun. And JKD is definitely a new martial art as of the late 1960's!
@@keithmyers8268well spoken
make the uncommon common
Un natural!!!! 👽
Best use of trapping.... A bear trap, pow!
🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
You don't always have to strike people. Some aggressors are just having a bad day. I have used trapping to deescalate a violent confrontation.
I think trapping really works in a real fight. I've used it before real fight.
Usman knocked out Masvidal with trapping. So yeah it works.
Hey brother you might get push back on trapping not working as a statement ... Yet ... We know that YOU KNOW trapping works because you use sensitivity to guide your strikes well ... Which is trapping. And we also know you think well so we know you can trap you jus said it ... In a way that might mislead or not you tell me.
I think it depends on your opponent too. If your opponent doesn't use gate blocks at all they shell you need to adjust it can still be done.
What's the skill level ... Is it street or tournament or mma or high or low level?
We adapt to the situation and they just aren't the same.
Double sticky hands doesn't occur with me unless it strangely does I don't hunt for double sticky hands.
I do like the way your way of speaking leaves trapping open too because there are street fight traps that have a very high success level to know that may not be in wing chun.
But it really depends.
You would point out you do it for the attributes ... I would think.
But depending on what people do ... You have different opportunities.
Any type of contact where the contact is kept redirected felt anything like that is still trapping.
Some trapping techniques work of course that are wing chun depending ... Pak da applications work if you don't get yourself hit too and just don't get hit many of them to any of them work.
But we have to be aware you can't make things more difficult on yourself by requiring a trap just to land a hit.
Most of the time you just hit ... Defend and hit ... Or adjust and hit ...
Because it's easiest and most practical.
You can get involved in trapping if you want it works as a technique ... Only sometimes ... But often enough ... It works as a concept a lot of the time.
But we don't need to trap to go through specific trap technique just to land a lunch that's even worse than chasing hands.
It's great to block or gate block I do nothing wrong with that I also I a lot of other stuff from the dictionary.
But we don't chase hands because it's not practical therefore it would be even worse to chase the concept of a trap.
But traps work as a technique ... As other trapping techniques outside wing chun and as wing chun concept but not a wooden technique that really works often.
Wing chun helps a lot with lines and energy ... It helps that it is able to do it at closer ranges ... Just don't be wooden unless you want to be wooden and that's what the dummy is for.
But why did ding hao lost to xu xiaodong?
because he doesn't train, doesn't spar. If you only do cardio boxing classes you will lose a boxing rules match to a karate sport fighter. His boxing might be poor, but he knows how to fight. You may throw a prettier uppercut, but you only know how to exercise.
This is how Wing Chun should be taught. So bad you are too far to be my Sifu :(
Every fighter has some weakness and they have their strengths, learning from more than one person can help you strengthen your weakness, fix them, and sharpen your strengths
great video