+SilverSupernova It'd be funnier if Blaine threw Pikachu in the volcano and Pikachu met Kazuya while he was down there and learned the Mishima style before they got out.
Max, you have to keep in mind when you went online, you were facing not very good players. Once you get towards the top the reliance on the grab counter normal triangle goes down along with the yolo supers and such, and more competitive depth really starts to shine.
+Jabberwockxeno This, this, this. I recommend watching the Early Access Finals for some high-level play. Also, don't pronounce things as solid facts on day one or two of a fighting game, Max. You should know better than that.
Like I said back in chat Max, I thank you for at least giving this game some time and playing through it to see what you thought. I'm glad you did enjoy it and I am totally fine with you not doing weeks of for this. I never even expected you to like it like you did.
***** A guy can be subbed to more than one channel... Man, I hate this. I get a message just like yours at least 3 times a day. I'm becoming a grumpy old man because of it.
+Maximilian Dood The artist actually drew an R. Mikachu, that would be perfect for a thumbnail. (If you know what I'm saying).....yeah, I'm a little ashamed that I knew about that before I even watched the video.
+D'Realitz He's done a lot of artwork for Street Fighter. Ive been following him for a long time and spoke with him a couple of times. hes a really cool person and a great artist.
I would love to see more of this game. I'm interested to see how Max reacts and adapts to a game that's a little outside his comfort zone like he did with Smash Bros.
LOL All these salty people in the chat whining about him playing this game. Shut up, he can play what he wants. It's a nice change of pace from the same SFV/MKX stuff every day.
+Zero 10.12 SFV deserves no more advertising from Max honestly. There hasn't been ANY kind of communication about what's happening with the March update. Capcom are handling this terribly.
A1phaz0ne Because communication always makes people happy. Just like how capcom communicated with the community telling them what was going to be in the game day 1.That sure stopped all the hate. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Seriously they need stop communicating with the community and just work on teh game the community doesn't know jack shit about anything other then there need for instant gratification.
BioLink "Free update in March" We're now past the halfway point of March and there has been NO word of what's going on with this update. People like you are the worst. Companies need to communicate with their consumers. Keeping consumers in the dark is a good way to piss them off and show you don't give a fuck about them. I dare you to try and run a business of any kind with that attitude.
A1phaz0ne But communication always backfires. It did with release and always has for other company's. I like valves method no communication and simply just work on there projects. Also Its still march you will have a right to bitch and moan if its not released in march. I wont defend Capcom if the update comes in April. But as it stands still march. Gamers are a bunch of baboons and children, they will never be happy until they have all there toys.
BlaziKen last name Masters, Also goes by BlaziKim Kaphwan, the Chun Masters, Ken Li, the Sanji of the poke universe, the man with the iron kicks, the starter everyone picked and Ash kickem.
I haven't picked up this game yet, but as a pokemon fan one of the things I admire the most about it is the easter eggs hidden throughout. Like in the synergy burst moves, Blaziken's has 257 hits which is its categorization number in the National Pokedex, Gengar's hits 61 times which is the level that it learns the move Nightmare (rather fitting), and Machamp's is a 1000 hit combo that is a callback to the pokedex entries saying it can through a thousand punches in a couple of seconds. Good on you Pokken.
Pokken is my first real fighting game after taking a few years off from them due to major amounts of frustration. This is finally my chance to learn a fighting game again and be a part of the FGC again. If I can give one bit of advice to anyone planning to play online is to PLEASE go out and get a Wii U Ethernet Adapter. They're maybe $10 on Amazon and you'll save yourself a world of hurt, because a terrible wired connection is still better than an amazing connection on WiFi.
I'm trying to figure out where people keep getting it in their heads that Pokken was made for the casual audience. Nobody ever said that. It was never implied. The game had two official tournaments before release that both used competitive rulesets (unlike Smash's invitational which had all items on Free-For-Alls and was a half-popularity contest), and a game with a stable online connection and proper online ranked modes (unlike Smash, which I'm comparing it to because they're both Wii U fighting games). The game is not being marketed as a casual game. Not even close.
+Adricgames the creators said in an interview that they wanted the game to be more accessible to a casual audience as opposed to say, Tekken. However they never said that they wanted to make the game less competitive, just accessible and less technical.
+Adricgames I think it having the Pokemon brand may have something to do with that. Yes, us savvy people know this is a serious fighting game but when you look at it on the surface, it does look like it would be marketed towards a casual or younger audience. TLDR: People are superficial.
+icetrey92 In his defense there are going to be a crap ton of people playing this game that don't normally play fighting games. As much as I don't like the game, Pokken is going to have $100,000 in prize money pumped into it this year. From a twitch streaming/youtube numbers stand point it makes sense to play this longer than Skull Girls. Nothing against SG, but it's the reality of the situation.
Don't mind me. Just picked up this game on the switch here in 2022 and of course...I had to see if Max had any content on it! Very excited to travel through this playlist!
I absolutely love playing as Garchomp cuz even though he's a close range fighter, he has dig which lets him get close to annoying projectile spam characters super easily
***** Nope, you can either jump out of it and just move out of the way, or if you cancel it at the right distance you can grab almost straight out of it, and unless they guess that you're going to go for a cancel and grab, there's no way they can react fast enough
***** Well I don't know about tournament level stuff, but I've played a lot online and people never seem to see it coming. I guess in "high level" stuff it's probably different if they're more familiar with playing against Garchomp
+Shane Nzinga to be fair, he's a BS boss. 1000 hp and random special moves stolen from other fighters. And the final boss has 3000 hp and severely limits your access to Burst.
Ok real talk, the music that plays during the third round of the final boss battle is fucking hype as fuck. Look up the nintendo life footage and watch the third round, it's so unbelievably hype and anime. For this reason, I think it would make a GREAT boss rage. Even if it's not that difficult.
Do keep in mind the later you fight in the evening, the more likely you are to be paired up with people well outside the ideal zone for you to be paired up in. I've had no lag during daytime online play but later at night I do get odd pairings that cause problems like Spain, the West Coast (I'm on the East Coast), etc.
Addicting matchmaking, loving it so much. The only thing I hate is that the roster is so limited, you figured since it's a pokemon game it would have a huge roster of fighters. Hoping we get dlc in the future because that's really dissapointing.
+𝕋𝕨𝕚𝕝𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥 𝕊𝕪𝕞𝕡𝕙𝕠𝕟𝕪 Ikr? over 700 pokemon and we got a roster of 16, granted this is the first fighting game of a potential new series, but I feel it lacks viarety, like....we got two pikachus and two mewtwos bot not a rock, bug or normal type pokemon? what?
3:00 MY MAIN ISSUE WITH THE GAME. I open a guy up and them with combos on top of combos They do a start mash a string and take off more. Also some grabs doing more damage than synergy bursts entirely.
The biggest issue of the game that Max completely ignored is the offline multiplayer . Because the game is in third person the offline mode is played by splitting the screen. That's a massive issue because that means the game has to render twice , and thus it has to drop it's frame rate to 30 instead of 60 fps.
Blaziken has some really decent combos, with its schtick being High Risk High Reward (I think it might be the only one to take damage on certain attacks, especially if it misses.) Best tactic I've found with Blaziken is to use Cubone and Diglet as supports and spend a lot of time in the air. Seriously, the number of people online who outright refuse to jump is staggering. It is a shame that a lot of folks will focus on spamming in field mode, but I think that habbit will soon die out when folks realise it'll only get so far.
Really hope they reconsider adding more characters to this game via DLC; I would love seeing 'Mons like Hawlucha, Hitmonlee or Hitmonchan (or both), Scizor, Heracross, Krookodile, Greninja, and Tyranitar playable.
Where does one acquire one of those magical shitty connection blocking routers? I searched a bit for one but couldn't find it and I could really use it because even 5 bar connections in SFV are running pretty badly for me sometimes (which, granted, might be due to the fact that I live in Germany and /NOBODY/ here plays fighters so pretty much every match is at least 300km away).
+Baikou Popularity doesn't really matter to me, Blaziken just fits how I like to play this game and fighting games as a whole. dealing lots of damage and the ability to kill quickly. I do main falcon in smash after all
Shizzy Ultimately, popularity doesn't matter to me either, I'm just saying the character I decide to play feels more satisfying and fun to play when he turns out to be one of the lesser chosen chars. I chose to play with Blaziken before the game even came out. I'm a pyromaniac, and I love his play style. But if it's not many Blaziken's out there, then I hope it stays that way. :)
So I have to throw in my experience with the netcode of this game so far. I live in Sweden and I have a 1000mb up/down connection, I have played around 50 games online and I have had 1 or maybe 2 matches where it felt a bit delayed, the other ones have felt like offline play, I've played through the whole story mode and 99% of my games felt like that. I'm hugely impressed by this game's netcode from my point of view, Smash 4 sucked for me, a lot of laggy matches so I was glad that this game's netcode was godlike.. Now that I think about it, I've had better netplay in this game than SFV so far.
I'm glad you gave it a fair shake. At first in the stream you seemed to stumble over the whole "Pokémon really" thing. Even if you had been overwhelmingly negative I'm glad you got over that hurdle and can see it on its own, because I feel like a lot of people aren't going to do that, love or hate.
Great to see that the matchmaking is good in terms of finding opponents. I've actually been kinda turned off of SFV abit due to the downtime between matches. I do good in a match for once, I'm amped to keep going, and then I have to wait a good minute or more it feels sometimes to jump into a new match.
That's interesting that you were having issues with online. I've played at least 200 online matches and maybe 10 of those had noticeable delay. Kinda sucks that those issues left a bitter taste in your mouth because I think this game is amazing. If you have a smooth time online and are willing to put in time to learn the game (and there is a decent amount to learn), it's a blast.
I feel the same way Max, looking at the roster I don't really see anyone on the roster that I'd love to play. I wish Hitmonlee were in the game, same for Scyther, but then again Blaziken and Garchomp sort of fill those spots already.
Maybe it's because I've played a lot of "Dissidia" but I don't see it being at all similar to "Pokken Tournament" on the bases of them being arena fighters. Maximilian brought it up a bunch of times but I just don't see it to be honest.
Yeah connecting to characters is more of a nostalgia thing of just having them on your team in past games I just hope primeape gets added to the game at some point
I saw the stream. Max didn't seem too happy because cool combos are essentially difficult to come by. I play Sceptile. I can only get one full combo off in dual phase before it changes back to field phase. You kind of have to learn to adjust to both phases and know what type of attacks changes the phases and prepare for when they connect and if you don't want to switch phase, you'll have to refrain from using certain moves. Example, as Sceptile I have to refrain from using leaf blade (takes a couple of them) and the izuna drop (which is an instant phase shift). Also multiple consecutive hits on the opponent will change the phase. I've tried Sceptile's dash cancel combos and it can only go for so long before a light attack knocks them out of dual phase. Sceptile isn't particularly great at field phase compared to the others, so like that you'll want to be in certain phases for certain pokemons.
I wasn't planning on buying this game, then I played it at Gamestop on release day because I was there for something else....and I had to leave with it. It really, really impressed me. I played it for a few hours last night, and so much fun playing as the fire chicken.
Max, during the stream, you repeatedly mentioned that you knew how online play "worked," and how you could easily win matches against characters that didn't have good projectiles or lots of super armour. I'd like to see you continue streaming online matches so you can use that knowledge to move your way up the ranks and find higher levels of play. I'd also like to see you learn how to conquer those attacks you had trouble with, and grow as a player. After watching a variety of matches, I have developed a hypothesis stating that maximizing damage in Duel Phase involves cautious, well-timed play and very short, non-damaging combos. This allows for more overall damage as a Phase Shift takes longer to occur. It can also allow for speedy rushdown tactics coupled with good reads to quickly annihilate an opponent's life bar. Blaziken may be at it's best as a mid-range mix-up character, where it is out of the range of counters, grabs, and light attacks, but close enough to discourage projectiles. Remember, you're not playing SFII, III, or IV Ken. You probably need to take a Nash-like approach. I really want to see you play more Pokken, Max, as I believe that there is much more tech to unearth. Research some strategies and good attacks, spend some time in the lab, then come back to the game. You might be glad you did. (Sorry for the use of spaces to divide paragraphs, UA-cam wasn't accepting line breaks for some reason.)
Im not even a fan of pokemon since i never played any game after the 2nd gen series way back, i only stuck to smash bros and the pokemon movies. For someone who isn't a pokemon fan and loves fighting games, im having a blast with this game.
Yeah, in general, the faster a game matches you up with another player the more random your connection will be. If a game takes a while to match you up with someone it's usually because it's taking time to test the connection before you actually play.
+Britton Stanaland Out of the 40 matches of online I've had, I've yet to experience any lag. Its matchmaking and netcode are literally just heads and shoulders above fighting games like MKX and SFV.
Max, Dood, I didn't think U were even going to look the way of Pokken Tournament, but I heard it was going to be in competitions and leagues. I love to see a professional fighting gamer play. Cover more Pokken Tournament Dood, come on, do it for the Tacos and a side of Chimichungas
Glad you finally realized how bad you were at Pokken on the stream Max. It was your first day and no matter how casual you thought the game was you were dead wrong, it happens to us all. As far as the connection issues go you gotta remember that every game that is online has players that have horrible connections, that's just the way it goes for Street Fighter V, Killer Instinct, Call of Duty etc, etc.
I've been playing fighting games all my life and this game has just as many laggy people as any other game with online out there. It's just stuff you come to expect. You might have 5 or 6 laggy matches and then 1 or 2 good connection matches. That's in any game. If you want to say one game is garbage then you got to say every online game is garbage. Like I said, maybe he was having probably having a bad day, but he shouldn't crap on a good game.
***** Nah, it's pretty decent online. Not going to say it's the best because It hasn't fully been explored by the community yet. Yeah, I feel your pain about not being able to choose a lobby, but they do find you a match within 3 to 4 seconds which is pretty sweet. They do need to show connection bars at least. I'm with you on being able to choose who you fight but even SFV will show you 5 bar connections and then you get into a laggy match sometimes. This is where people fail because they have laggy connections.
Do you think maybe some of the online issues have to do with the fact that the Wii U doesn't have Ethernet natively? (outside that USB adapter but you're still limited to USB 2.0 speeds)
I'm not that far into the story. Are there any cutscenes dedicated to Heihachu tossing Pichu into a volcano?
Lol'd
+SilverSupernova It'd be funnier if Blaine threw Pikachu in the volcano and Pikachu met Kazuya while he was down there and learned the Mishima style before they got out.
+Kyle Clover
"You'd better have Burn Heal."
You don't need Burn Heal if you have Electric Winds to cool you off.
No, Pichu is not in the game
Blaziken... Blazi-Ken...
Because of course Max will play Ken, even if it's a chicken...
and I thought I was the only one who saw Ryu in Lucario and Ken in Blaziken.
lol
+Hailstormful When's BlaziRyu Kappa
+Hailstormful Why wouldn't you play Banana Lord Ken?
+Zenthik more like Luca-ryu.
Seriously, Blaziken and Lucario are Shotoclones.
I would love to see some more Pokken gameplay on the channel Max. Please continue to play it.
BlaziKen
R.Pika
LucaRyu
Max, you have to keep in mind when you went online, you were facing not very good players. Once you get towards the top the reliance on the grab counter normal triangle goes down along with the yolo supers and such, and more competitive depth really starts to shine.
+Jabberwockxeno This, this, this. I recommend watching the Early Access Finals for some high-level play. Also, don't pronounce things as solid facts on day one or two of a fighting game, Max. You should know better than that.
Hey Max, glad you're considering playing some more of this. I'm definitely down for more Pokken content.
Like I said back in chat Max, I thank you for at least giving this game some time and playing through it to see what you thought. I'm glad you did enjoy it and I am totally fine with you not doing weeks of for this. I never even expected you to like it like you did.
I gotta get this. I'm a big fan of Arena fighters. Like Anarchy Reigns, JStars, Dissidia, JoJo Eyes of Heaven, etc.
Awesome.
+Swagbito Uchiha You are into the FGC? I thought you only watch saywer. XD
*****
A guy can be subbed to more than one channel...
Man, I hate this. I get a message just like yours at least 3 times a day. I'm becoming a grumpy old man because of it.
+Swagbito Uchiha It's okay to be grumpy, I still think you are the swagest guy.
What did you think of Jump Force?
TFW you know who drew the Blaziken in the thumbnail.
+Maximilian Dood
ss2sonic.deviantart.com/art/blaziKEN-551825547
+Maximilian Dood The artist actually drew an R. Mikachu, that would be perfect for a thumbnail. (If you know what I'm saying).....yeah, I'm a little ashamed that I knew about that before I even watched the video.
+zanpakuto man nah m8, 2lewd4u2be
+Maximilian Dood ss2sonic.deviantart.com/art/blaziKEN-551825547 They've got some really good stuff from what I've seen.
+ziggs You've been to places.....
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
That Blazi-Ken in the thumbnail, though.
+Warlord SteelShroom credits to SS2Sonic, he's pretty good~ss2sonic.deviantart.com/art/blaziKEN-551825547
+D'Realitz He's done a lot of artwork for Street Fighter. Ive been following him for a long time and spoke with him a couple of times. hes a really cool person and a great artist.
Yep, his style is very noticeable too.
I would love to see more of this game. I'm interested to see how Max reacts and adapts to a game that's a little outside his comfort zone like he did with Smash Bros.
LOL All these salty people in the chat whining about him playing this game. Shut up, he can play what he wants. It's a nice change of pace from the same SFV/MKX stuff every day.
+Zero 10.12 But the game is soooo fukin DULL.
+Zero 10.12 SFV deserves no more advertising from Max honestly. There hasn't been ANY kind of communication about what's happening with the March update. Capcom are handling this terribly.
A1phaz0ne Because communication always makes people happy. Just like how capcom communicated with the community telling them what was going to be in the game day 1.That sure stopped all the hate. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Seriously they need stop communicating with the community and just work on teh game the community doesn't know jack shit about anything other then there need for instant gratification.
BioLink
"Free update in March"
We're now past the halfway point of March and there has been NO word of what's going on with this update.
People like you are the worst. Companies need to communicate with their consumers. Keeping consumers in the dark is a good way to piss them off and show you don't give a fuck about them. I dare you to try and run a business of any kind with that attitude.
A1phaz0ne But communication always backfires.
It did with release and always has for other company's. I like valves method no communication and simply just work on there projects. Also Its still march you will have a right to bitch and moan if its not released in march. I wont defend Capcom if the update comes in April. But as it stands still march.
Gamers are a bunch of baboons and children, they will never be happy until they have all there toys.
BlaziKen last name Masters, Also goes by BlaziKim Kaphwan, the Chun Masters, Ken Li, the Sanji of the poke universe, the man with the iron kicks, the starter everyone picked and Ash kickem.
I haven't picked up this game yet, but as a pokemon fan one of the things I admire the most about it is the easter eggs hidden throughout. Like in the synergy burst moves, Blaziken's has 257 hits which is its categorization number in the National Pokedex, Gengar's hits 61 times which is the level that it learns the move Nightmare (rather fitting), and Machamp's is a 1000 hit combo that is a callback to the pokedex entries saying it can through a thousand punches in a couple of seconds. Good on you Pokken.
I hoped this would become a thing! I'll love to see this become a series! "Week of" would be great.
Artist is ss2sonic from DeviantArt and FurAffinity, Max
Pokken is my first real fighting game after taking a few years off from them due to major amounts of frustration. This is finally my chance to learn a fighting game again and be a part of the FGC again.
If I can give one bit of advice to anyone planning to play online is to PLEASE go out and get a Wii U Ethernet Adapter. They're maybe $10 on Amazon and you'll save yourself a world of hurt, because a terrible wired connection is still better than an amazing connection on WiFi.
I'm trying to figure out where people keep getting it in their heads that Pokken was made for the casual audience. Nobody ever said that. It was never implied. The game had two official tournaments before release that both used competitive rulesets (unlike Smash's invitational which had all items on Free-For-Alls and was a half-popularity contest), and a game with a stable online connection and proper online ranked modes (unlike Smash, which I'm comparing it to because they're both Wii U fighting games).
The game is not being marketed as a casual game. Not even close.
+Adricgames the creators said in an interview that they wanted the game to be more accessible to a casual audience as opposed to say, Tekken. However they never said that they wanted to make the game less competitive, just accessible and less technical.
+Adricgames I think it having the Pokemon brand may have something to do with that. Yes, us savvy people know this is a serious fighting game but when you look at it on the surface, it does look like it would be marketed towards a casual or younger audience.
TLDR: People are superficial.
They see Pokemon and instantly assume it's for kids.
I love pokken
He gave this more of a chance than Skullgirls
+icetrey92 In his defense there are going to be a crap ton of people playing this game that don't normally play fighting games. As much as I don't like the game, Pokken is going to have $100,000 in prize money pumped into it this year. From a twitch streaming/youtube numbers stand point it makes sense to play this longer than Skull Girls. Nothing against SG, but it's the reality of the situation.
That's sad
+CyberShinobi Plus, Pokemon is a household name around the world and Skullgirls is very niche.
I was just playing. I dont care what Max likes
I adore this game so much
I think the netcode is pretty solid. I live in the UK and played guys in Japan and the US and it was great.
+Ice Climber Agreed, I played quite a few matches against Canadians and Japanese players and had fantastic connection.
so glad you used that blazi-ken picture :P
*looks at blazi-ken art. realizes artist*
*blushes deep red*
...well, he IS a good....
Uhh, special artist.
"competitive elements are nothing new to pokemon but i'm glad you are taking this game seriously.
Don't mind me. Just picked up this game on the switch here in 2022 and of course...I had to see if Max had any content on it! Very excited to travel through this playlist!
i knew you would main blaziken : the red color that fabulous hair the fire power.
and he is similair to ken from street fighter
I absolutely love playing as Garchomp cuz even though he's a close range fighter, he has dig which lets him get close to annoying projectile spam characters super easily
+AlColossus As a Chandelure main, I found that out the hard way
***** Nope, you can either jump out of it and just move out of the way, or if you cancel it at the right distance you can grab almost straight out of it, and unless they guess that you're going to go for a cancel and grab, there's no way they can react fast enough
***** Well I don't know about tournament level stuff, but I've played a lot online and people never seem to see it coming. I guess in "high level" stuff it's probably different if they're more familiar with playing against Garchomp
Pikachu Libre = Rainbow Mika
+Ariel Gonzalez Rainbow Pika.
R Pika
+Toxic Celestial it's funny, the people who don't know the gender marker keep calling pikachu libre a guy
R. Pika > R. Mika
fixed it for you :^)
+Ariel Gonzalez More like Stone Cold Pikachu. She does the Stunner, BTW.
are you planning to do a boss rage for pokken
YES!
The only thing you could call a "boss" would be shadow mewtwo.
+awesome19ssbb There's not really any bosses besides S.Mewtwo
+CountofBleck yes I know that
+Shane Nzinga to be fair, he's a BS boss. 1000 hp and random special moves stolen from other fighters. And the final boss has 3000 hp and severely limits your access to Burst.
I want to see this at EVO, I can't wait!
Fun to play hard to master
I play on a wired connection and every game is pretty brill unless they're NYers on AT&T.
...in 2016 of all times.
Of course he chose Blaziken! It's the closest thing to Ken in the pokemon universe
Ok real talk, the music that plays during the third round of the final boss battle is fucking hype as fuck. Look up the nintendo life footage and watch the third round, it's so unbelievably hype and anime. For this reason, I think it would make a GREAT boss rage. Even if it's not that difficult.
Do keep in mind the later you fight in the evening, the more likely you are to be paired up with people well outside the ideal zone for you to be paired up in. I've had no lag during daytime online play but later at night I do get odd pairings that cause problems like Spain, the West Coast (I'm on the East Coast), etc.
Addicting matchmaking, loving it so much. The only thing I hate is that the roster is so limited, you figured since it's a pokemon game it would have a huge roster of fighters. Hoping we get dlc in the future because that's really dissapointing.
+𝕋𝕨𝕚𝕝𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥 𝕊𝕪𝕞𝕡𝕙𝕠𝕟𝕪 16 is fine. There will be future DLC though.
+Xavier Beazer ...I thought they said the game is pretty much DONE now.
+𝕋𝕨𝕚𝕝𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥 𝕊𝕪𝕞𝕡𝕙𝕠𝕟𝕪 Ikr? over 700 pokemon and we got a roster of 16, granted this is the first fighting game of a potential new series, but I feel it lacks viarety, like....we got two pikachus and two mewtwos bot not a rock, bug or normal type pokemon? what?
+𝕋𝕨𝕚𝕝𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥 𝕊𝕪𝕞𝕡𝕙𝕠𝕟𝕪 Not to mention, out of all the Gen 2 Pokemon there are, only Suicune is playable.
wtf.
+UltimaKeyMaster Didn't they say that with Smash before the ballets and stuff? If they did, then there's gonna be dlc for this
3:00 MY MAIN ISSUE WITH THE GAME. I open a guy up and them with combos on top of combos They do a start mash a string and take off more. Also some grabs doing more damage than synergy bursts entirely.
The biggest issue of the game that Max completely ignored is the offline multiplayer . Because the game is in third person the offline mode is played by splitting the screen. That's a massive issue because that means the game has to render twice , and thus it has to drop it's frame rate to 30 instead of 60 fps.
Awesome vid, dood. Blaziken is my favorite Pokemon!
Muay Thai Chicken ftw!
+Akasuna 420 Blaziken is solid as hell
+DeltaTheAwsome PSYFrame It brings me no small amount of joy to know one of my favorites is viable.
Akasuna
Its even good in ORAS! Speed Boost Protect Scouting= Broken AF.
So Field mode is for spammy scrubs basically?
Lol
+Jparodyy Yes.
+Jparodyy fuk u
Ken Charles LOL k
+Jparodyy you can spam if you want but its really easy to punish people for that honestly. Its alot better to time your attacks unexpectedly.
Wow. Blazeken's super is a Rider Kick. Complete with a pose and explosion.
Blaziken has some really decent combos, with its schtick being High Risk High Reward (I think it might be the only one to take damage on certain attacks, especially if it misses.) Best tactic I've found with Blaziken is to use Cubone and Diglet as supports and spend a lot of time in the air. Seriously, the number of people online who outright refuse to jump is staggering.
It is a shame that a lot of folks will focus on spamming in field mode, but I think that habbit will soon die out when folks realise it'll only get so far.
We need Week of for Pokken. Please make it happen Max.
gah, that Blazi-Ken picture was amazing.
Really hope they reconsider adding more characters to this game via DLC; I would love seeing 'Mons like Hawlucha, Hitmonlee or Hitmonchan (or both), Scizor, Heracross, Krookodile, Greninja, and Tyranitar playable.
I want there to be a Libre vs. Hawlucha update, that would be sick
its like virtual on and tekken had a baby and it grew up to be a furry.
+MagmaGrunt410Toast Pretty accurate description actually.
I'm just here waiting for a Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee DLC
this is the most diverse evo i've seen yet only thing keeping from being the one is smash with two pots.
Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, Street Fighter, Tekken, kof, Skullgirls, and now Pokken.... so many cool fighting games, so little time to learn them.
This game is a blast, my wife and I had a lot of fun making a let's play of it!
I freaking knew Max would take a shine to Blaziken! I spammed the hell out of the suggestion on his twitch streams in the past!
Where does one acquire one of those magical shitty connection blocking routers? I searched a bit for one but couldn't find it and I could really use it because even 5 bar connections in SFV are running pretty badly for me sometimes (which, granted, might be due to the fact that I live in Germany and /NOBODY/ here plays fighters so pretty much every match is at least 300km away).
Im so glad to see another Blaziken main. I've only seen like 2 or 3 of them online
+Shizzy Good! I main Blaziken too, and I like it when my char of choice becomes the unpopular char.
+Baikou Popularity doesn't really matter to me, Blaziken just fits how I like to play this game and fighting games as a whole. dealing lots of damage and the ability to kill quickly. I do main falcon in smash after all
Shizzy Ultimately, popularity doesn't matter to me either, I'm just saying the character I decide to play feels more satisfying and fun to play when he turns out to be one of the lesser chosen chars. I chose to play with Blaziken before the game even came out. I'm a pyromaniac, and I love his play style. But if it's not many Blaziken's out there, then I hope it stays that way. :)
Damn good and accurate review. Subbed!
So I have to throw in my experience with the netcode of this game so far. I live in Sweden and I have a 1000mb up/down connection, I have played around 50 games online and I have had 1 or maybe 2 matches where it felt a bit delayed, the other ones have felt like offline play, I've played through the whole story mode and 99% of my games felt like that. I'm hugely impressed by this game's netcode from my point of view, Smash 4 sucked for me, a lot of laggy matches so I was glad that this game's netcode was godlike.. Now that I think about it, I've had better netplay in this game than SFV so far.
Max as a Rooster confirmed.
I'm glad you gave it a fair shake. At first in the stream you seemed to stumble over the whole "Pokémon really" thing. Even if you had been overwhelmingly negative I'm glad you got over that hurdle and can see it on its own, because I feel like a lot of people aren't going to do that, love or hate.
What an honest review. Thanks a whole bunch, Maxy boy!
This game ended up surprising me. I was thinking is was gonna be ok but I've been loving it.
But R. Pika tho
tfw max is good at almost every fighting game
I saw Bruce's
Great to see that the matchmaking is good in terms of finding opponents. I've actually been kinda turned off of SFV abit due to the downtime between matches. I do good in a match for once, I'm amped to keep going, and then I have to wait a good minute or more it feels sometimes to jump into a new match.
I had never thought Max would actually check out this game after I first suggested it a long time ago.
That's interesting that you were having issues with online. I've played at least 200 online matches and maybe 10 of those had noticeable delay. Kinda sucks that those issues left a bitter taste in your mouth because I think this game is amazing. If you have a smooth time online and are willing to put in time to learn the game (and there is a decent amount to learn), it's a blast.
Shoto guy complains about zoning.
my sides are leaving the orbit right now.
+MiiSeeks Nah, he just wants to spam Shoryuken!! XD
I would like to see you play more of this game.
I feel the same way Max, looking at the roster I don't really see anyone on the roster that I'd love to play. I wish Hitmonlee were in the game, same for Scyther, but then again Blaziken and Garchomp sort of fill those spots already.
Maybe it's because I've played a lot of "Dissidia" but I don't see it being at all similar to "Pokken Tournament" on the bases of them being arena fighters. Maximilian brought it up a bunch of times but I just don't see it to be honest.
I was expecting a beyond average fighting game here, instead I was suprised af by it. The fighting is fantastic & the netcode is so damn good.
I'm in the eastern seaboard and connected to someone in Japan, and the connection was still pretty smooth.
you should also try the Wii U LAN adapter.
Yeah connecting to characters is more of a nostalgia thing of just having them on your team in past games I just hope primeape gets added to the game at some point
I saw the stream. Max didn't seem too happy because cool combos are essentially difficult to come by. I play Sceptile. I can only get one full combo off in dual phase before it changes back to field phase. You kind of have to learn to adjust to both phases and know what type of attacks changes the phases and prepare for when they connect and if you don't want to switch phase, you'll have to refrain from using certain moves. Example, as Sceptile I have to refrain from using leaf blade (takes a couple of them) and the izuna drop (which is an instant phase shift). Also multiple consecutive hits on the opponent will change the phase. I've tried Sceptile's dash cancel combos and it can only go for so long before a light attack knocks them out of dual phase. Sceptile isn't particularly great at field phase compared to the others, so like that you'll want to be in certain phases for certain pokemons.
I wasn't planning on buying this game, then I played it at Gamestop on release day because I was there for something else....and I had to leave with it. It really, really impressed me. I played it for a few hours last night, and so much fun playing as the fire chicken.
+Butterworthy Blaziken and Lucario are like the Ken and Ryu for this game.
Max, during the stream, you repeatedly mentioned that you knew how online play "worked," and how you could easily win matches against characters that didn't have good projectiles or lots of super armour. I'd like to see you continue streaming online matches so you can use that knowledge to move your way up the ranks and find higher levels of play. I'd also like to see you learn how to conquer those attacks you had trouble with, and grow as a player. After watching a variety of matches, I have developed a hypothesis stating that maximizing damage in Duel Phase involves cautious, well-timed play and very short, non-damaging combos. This allows for more overall damage as a Phase Shift takes longer to occur. It can also allow for speedy rushdown tactics coupled with good reads to quickly annihilate an opponent's life bar. Blaziken may be at it's best as a mid-range mix-up character, where it is out of the range of counters, grabs, and light attacks, but close enough to discourage projectiles. Remember, you're not playing SFII, III, or IV Ken. You probably need to take a Nash-like approach. I really want to see you play more Pokken, Max, as I believe that there is much more tech to unearth. Research some strategies and good attacks, spend some time in the lab, then come back to the game. You might be glad you did. (Sorry for the use of spaces to divide paragraphs, UA-cam wasn't accepting line breaks for some reason.)
So how long before he drops it for "Week of Nash #3"
Im not even a fan of pokemon since i never played any game after the 2nd gen series way back, i only stuck to smash bros and the pokemon movies.
For someone who isn't a pokemon fan and loves fighting games, im having a blast with this game.
Yeah, in general, the faster a game matches you up with another player the more random your connection will be. If a game takes a while to match you up with someone it's usually because it's taking time to test the connection before you actually play.
+Britton Stanaland Out of the 40 matches of online I've had, I've yet to experience any lag.
Its matchmaking and netcode are literally just heads and shoulders above fighting games like MKX and SFV.
Max, Dood, I didn't think U were even going to look the way of Pokken Tournament, but I heard it was going to be in competitions and leagues. I love to see a professional fighting gamer play. Cover more Pokken Tournament Dood, come on, do it for the Tacos and a side of Chimichungas
The fast matchmaking is really nice.
Unlike SFV where I can wait over 30 damn mintutes to find a friggen match.
Killa Tube
The Symbol
Blaze kin looks dope
_I might get it tonight._
Week of Blaziken, let's go!
Glad you finally realized how bad you were at Pokken on the stream Max. It was your first day and no matter how casual you thought the game was you were dead wrong, it happens to us all. As far as the connection issues go you gotta remember that every game that is online has players that have horrible connections, that's just the way it goes for Street Fighter V, Killer Instinct, Call of Duty etc, etc.
I've been playing fighting games all my life and this game has just as many laggy people as any other game with online out there. It's just stuff you come to expect. You might have 5 or 6 laggy matches and then 1 or 2 good connection matches. That's in any game. If you want to say one game is garbage then you got to say every online game is garbage. Like I said, maybe he was having probably having a bad day, but he shouldn't crap on a good game.
***** Nah, it's pretty decent online. Not going to say it's the best because It hasn't fully been explored by the community yet. Yeah, I feel your pain about not being able to choose a lobby, but they do find you a match within 3 to 4 seconds which is pretty sweet. They do need to show connection bars at least. I'm with you on being able to choose who you fight but even SFV will show you 5 bar connections and then you get into a laggy match sometimes. This is where people fail because they have laggy connections.
NICE! Finally some gameplay of this game! I get it. Blazi-KEN. Very LoPUNny.
Oh nice another cool unique fighting game we will never see on the channel again.
This game almost came out a decade ago, feel old yet?
It's a really good game. It's ruff, but really well done.
I freaking love this game. Hands down my favorite Wii U game.
Fun fact: Braixen and Mewtwo have a few moves that were based off of Soul Calibur.
Is it sad that Blazikens face on Kens body still looks better than Kens face?
I would think so.
+serozic LOL Blaziken's Twin locks>>Banana hair anyday.
Do you think maybe some of the online issues have to do with the fact that the Wii U doesn't have Ethernet natively? (outside that USB adapter but you're still limited to USB 2.0 speeds)
I do, and the fact that the wii u hardware is behind compared to other consoles. I think good netcode requires lots of cpu power.
No love for R. Pika, Max? Tsk tsk.
Great review as always, DOOD!
Just got the game yesterday, and I currently suck at it. However, I am absolutely determined to get better, specifically with Chandelure.
Watching this waiting to find an online match..
Anyone else notice that when you hit the edge of an arena, it looks like you were stopped by Missingno.?
This is what I envisioned for Pokemon stadium...
I wish to see more pocketed monsters fighting on the internet for my amusement!