Ok to clear a couple of things up bc I clearly wasn't on my A Game when trying to explain this case! *spoilers also* So when I said there was no forensic evidence to link Denny to Hannah, I meant there was no forensic evidence to say it was him that killed her. Yes I know there was evidence to say they were together that night such as the semen sample, but like I said many times in the video - that doesn't mean Denny killed her - it could just mean they were together before she was killed. In respect to the teeth marks on Hannah's arm that matched Denny's teeth - teeth shapes aren’t as unique as say a fingerprint & it’s common for people to have VERY similar teeth sets, so it’s evidence in the fact that they match the main suspect, but they could also match hundreds of other people too. So take that how you will. Sorry for not explaining that during the video! Reply to this comment with any other questions you might have & I'll try to clear it up for you! Thanks so much for watching!
Eleanor Neale I love your videos! This one made me so angry and sad for Hannah and her family. Thank you for sharing her story in such a gentle way, and for giving her the respect and dignity she deserves.
Eleanor Neale I thought you did a really good job explaining this case, it was a long one and you covered it very professionally. Also I think your meaning was pretty clear regarding the evidence tying him to the crime scene etc. You did good kid. Your passion for these people and cases really shows
Was there any DNA linking anyone else? Because if there was no DNA in the car or on Hannah that means whoever did it got lucky or cleaned well. And the circumstantial evidence against Denny carries more weight. If someone’s DNA was found, but couldn’t be identified then I’d be more inclined to believe the possibility that Denny was framed.
I have been reading and watching so many abduction cases lately that I keep thinking how hard it must be to be a parent. I wonder how can you protect your kid while respecting his/her freedom and personal space.
My husband and I have an absolutely gorgeous, and oh-so precious, 4 year old little girl... and we ask ourselves this same question every day... I do know we'll give our lives for her in a heartbeat, but for some families, unfortunately that just doesn't seem to be enough sometimes. We live in a world full of monsters, and it's (pardon my languague) truly fucking terrifying...
Eli yes!! I feel your struggle. I take care of a 7 year old and I have to constantly have an eye on her when we go out for my peace of mind. I know these abductions happen in seconds. It’s the scariest thing.
Cat yeah, these are always the saddest ones, because it really doesn’t take that much to put the report on the system, look in the car, etc, etc. there are so many small things that they ignored, it’s just infuriating.
First Denny said that he hadn't seen Hannah at all. Then he said that him and Hannah had only kissed that night. After the semen was found in her underwear, THEN he says there was consensual sex?!! Somebody who changes their story that much just cannot be innocent.
Think about it this way. He might not want people to hear about him hooking up with Hannah when she had a boyfriend, therefor, though twisted, he might have been nervous to mention it to his friends or Hannah's friends.
But there is also a possibility that they had sex and Denny kept it secret because she had a boyfriend who could beat the shit out of him. Police hadn't interviewed him until just before they arrested him, he had just told his friends and Hannah's that he hadn't seen her. Presumably because she had a known, controlling boyfriend. Idk I just don't see enough evidence to charge the man with a capital offence
I hate when authorities say, the person is young and young people run away all the time... it’s like no, if someone is missing.. they’re missing. That’s important time they’re wasting. What’s the worst that can happen if they start immediately?? The missing person comes home and they’re safe... THATS A GOOD THING!! We hear that line all the time in crime videos. It’s frustrating. 😡
Having been a former P.O. Its not that simple. People do go missing a lot. Especially women. They get tired of their family friends boyfriends or lesbian girlfriends. They up and leave. And just pop up again two months later. Women leave small towns all the time and go to bigger city's like L.A. NYC, Chicago and Miami. and they get drunk in a bar get arrested and police from another state will call us and say You guys looking for a woman named Mary Joe? We will say yea can you send me a picture. They send you a mug shot and I will be damned that's her. So I tell the officer on the other end of the phone "Tell her to call her damn mother.." And we close the file. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY CASES ARE JUST LIKE THIS!? Most of them. Sometimes we are wrong but 90% of the times we are right..
@@Donovandoit2me that's exactly what OP is saying though. Just because a lot of them disappear and turn up again that doesn't mean action shouldn't be taken immediately because of the chance that something actually happened to them. Just assuming that they just left and they'll turn up is a dangerous way of thinking even if you are right most of the time. Like she said what's the worst that can happen? They turn up fine? While on the other hand if you just assume they're a runaway the worst that can happen is they were actually abducted or murdered and there was nothing done about it.
@@nicolecheyenne4982 I really think that it's not that easy. How many police officers would it take to search for every missing person? I agree with you, it would be better, but I think that it's just not manageable
@@Donovandoit2me no it's because y'all are fucking lazy pigs if someone is worried that makes a missing person report they're obviously doing it for a reason y'all would just rather be sorry than safe
Anyone else deeply disturbed by the fact that police officer defined rape as: "when there's violence, and then sex, and someone dies, that's how you get the rape." yIKES.
@@hi-bv6er could of but most likely not since he kept changing his story like first he said she wasn't at her house then they found her clothes, so he changed his story to they kissed but that's all then they found she had sex, so he said he did have sex but it was consensual.
Akron is a crappy town with some crappy police. I am from that area. Hannah and I had mutual friends, though I did not know her. This whole mess is so sad. Such a tragedy.
Honestly rape can be weird with someone who you know and have a relationship with. After my rape they found no tearing or scarring but that could be contributed to the fact that instead of fighting back i froze and let it happen. This is what happened to me so that’s the only reason when they say there was no tearing or anything i dont really see it as a very deciding factor.
Agreed. The physical evidence of rape usually comes from violent force and from a lot of fighting back. However a lot of women do NOT fight back over fear of being assaulted further, and depending on the perpetrator, not fighting back can mean they take it a lot easier on the victim. This is especially true if the attacker is already connected to the victim. My first boyfriend raped me in his bedroom, with the lights on and the door open while his parents were right upstairs. I didn't fight back. I didn't scream. I didn't want to get in trouble or have anyone see/know what was happening. It was humiliating, it was devastating, but there were no physical signs I had been assaulted....other than the fact I started self harming that night and still have the scars, so I'll never forget.
@@meganwoehl5277 So sorry that happened to you, I hope your doing better now. I have said this before, rape isn't always easy to prove, that's why so man men get away and do it again, and again. Victims are made to feel like its something to be a shamed about, where the only one who should be a shamed is him.
Denny’s dad seems like the type that would do ANYTHING for his son...Maybe even help cleanup a crime scene? A random stranger wouldn’t have known which car was Hannah’s unless he’d been watching her beforehand.
yeah he speaks very highly of his son like in the movies where the popular boy at school is a big fat jerk and his dad is rich and lets him do whatever he wants
I went to school with Hannah and Brad. I remember seeing her car sitting on that street....we called police over and over and they always said they would send someone to check it out...I know they didn't come as many times as we called. I had been to Denny's house a couple of times, with fiends, and let me tell you HE WAS SO CREEPY! His eyes were weird, like they were empty. I can't describe it. I still live in Akron and drive by Caine Rd almost every day. I don't think our police dept will ever live this down....they messed up sooo bad....sad that Denny went on to rape another girl, but at least he is in prison for that one. Thank you for covering this case. I still miss my friend😢
@@snailcheeseyoutube You wouldn't know if they were actually lying, don't assume so fast just because it's the internet, it could actually be someone who knew her.
Imagine being Hannah in the boot of the car fighting for her life praying someone would rescue her and the police just ignoring the calls probably handing out speeding tickets. Unreal. Poor girl x
Whether it was Brad or Denny, she was in an abusive relationship and was brutally murdered, she didn’t deserve that. The poor girl just didn’t have it easy whatsoever and she was unfortunately killed in a way that is sickening. I hope she rests in peace and she is no longer hurting physically or emotionally❤️
I have become addicted to watching your videos, which probably isn't good as I'm in the middle of my GCSEs, but oh well your content is just sooo good!!!
So this man went from "I havent seen her" to "We only kissed" to "We had sex" and you're telling me they let him go? I'm glad they sentenced him in the end.
That's an excellent point, but judging from looks and how he acts, I doubt he'd uh.. be able to think of that lol. Most people who kill aren't completely non-feeling psychopaths who just wants to kill everyone in brutal ways.
Very interesting point, I kinda suspect he had kept the clothes as a souvenir and then tossed them when he realized the cops were coming. It wouldn't be the first time a murderer kept something to look back on
She was also her parents only child. He stole their only child and his father still makes excuses for his sociopath he raised to be so entitled he thought he deserved everything even stealing lives.
It bothers me so much not knowing what proved the boyfriend couldn't have done it. so horrible how Hannah was left though. hopefully she'll always be remembered with dignity
ms. will always love my life how can you say something like that about someone you never met and knew nothing about? even if she did cheat, which i doubt she did, she didn’t deserve to be murdered. nobody deserves that.
ms. will always love my life although I don’t usually agree with cheating, she was being abused by her boyfriend so she might’ve felt like there was no escape and cheating might’ve been the only way she could feel some love. That being said, there’s no proof that Hannah was cheating, Denny could’ve raped her which is obviously not cheating. Going to someone’s house doesn’t mean she’s cheating, they could’ve been friends (even if he did murder her, she could’ve thought they were friends).
TheJewelTheory we don't pay them. We don't own them. They have a job to do, but we aren't their bosses. If they aren't doing their jobs correctly we as citizens have the right to file greivences against them as they are employed to protect and serve the citizens.
You're always so respectful, informative, and have passion with these cases. We love your true crime/mystery cases but don't push yourself or rush. You're doing a fabulous job! Don't change a thing!
I've been through a home invasion & I can tell you this... you never know how you'll react to a situation until you're in it. I always thought I'd be sensible & hide/play it safe. But something primal comes out & I was actually enraged & fought like a wild animal. I screamed threats, I chased after them when they left & tried to smash up their car to make it easy for police to identify. Basically all the things you're told NOT to do in that type of situation. I was almost killed, but I did leave a trail of evidence & that's exactly what I screamed at them. 'You try and kill me, I'll get your DNA all over me & all over my house mf - YOU BETTER RUN!' - I didn't say that exactly but that was the vibe I was going for. So 2 of the 3 attackers immediately bailed, the other one did initially but doubled back & tried to kill me after I fucked with his car, but I escaped. I definitely wouldn't recommend going after anyone the way I did, but I DO recommend making it damn clear that you're going to fight to the end & make it impossible to get away clean. What I want to know is what was under this girl's finger nails. Seems like she fought back, there had to have been something there...
When you showed dennys house and said it was the party house with no parents and you could do whatever I was like 'oh, ok so the entitled psychopath rich boy lives there' and then he got in trouble for drugs and i was like 'yeah of course, bet it's coke and he gets no jail time' ...check. yeah i know this type and he definitely did it. Once you said his daddy got him an expensive team of lawyers? Confirmed. Other kids hang out with these types and tolerate them being total creeps (remember hannah warning her friend?) because they have the party house and its fun to go there and it just makes their behaviour worse when they already grow up spoiled by their parents.
@@marionjames4986 as much as I don't believe he should be allowed use this as an excuse if he's aware of it, I blame his parents. They had a kid when they clearly weren't ready for that! That's like giving a puppy to a child who has no idea what responsibility is yet, of course their son turned out bad.. And Geez, why are we trying to make clones and AI before we even figure out how to take care of the life that we create naturally?? This is a clear sign that we need to take a step back and seriously work on our behaviour, as a species.
@@marionjames4986 Denny's my ex of thirteen years..my name's Heather hamrick..Google it..you don't know what the hell your talking about..how much time have you ever spent personally with Denny's dad ????. I'm pretty damn sure I've spent way more time with Daddy than you did
Disturbed Kay yeah but the so called “argument” they had was a few days before she went missing, idk how to say this but she cleaned it?..so the police probably didn’t suspect anything.
I think the boyfriend had a hand in it. Then again, there isn't too much evidence for that. There's so much evidence pointing in so many different directions...
Wow..it could never of been me ..( Denny's girlfriend of 13 years who was also there that night )..I heard "that Heather hamrick girl is to slick to get cought""
@@britnysnyder4991 I was just joking..I know it's nothing to joke about..but Im naturally humorous..I can't help it..and I've been accused of SO much shit in that freaking case..but my dumb ass forgets that my "reply" to people around here that talk shit..I forget the fact that people hundreds of miles away only see my "reply" to the people I'd like to just say it to in person..so any smart ass remark I make us basically just to the Springfield area ..I'm sorry if I offend anyone who don't know me..but as I'm told ..when ya get to know me..I'm a funny ass bitch !!😁😸..( in a good way..)
"I'd just like to give my usual disclaimer that I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone I talk about in this video. This is all information I've found on the internet that I'm compiling into one video."
what if the boyfriend actually murdered her after finding out that she slept with Denny (as said that her boyfriend was very abusive towards her) then planted the bag of clothes on Denny’s property. As we know, he had all these scratches and bruises kn him. How did he get those?
I agree! Denny maybe had consensual sex with her that night and then her real boyfriend found out and got mad and framed Denny! It would make sense as to why they found dennys semen on her clothes- but the bite mark matching dennys teeth still doesn't make sense. I don't think denny could do this alone with a broken wrist and I fully believe her boyfriend was involved and is walking free!
The only thing thats makes me think falsely of this theory is how hannah was weary and even warned her friends about denny, so why would she sleep with him? and then especially with a boyfriend youd think that denny isnt worth it.
So many of the cases you cover involve neglect from the authorities. I understand that, with the frequency of missing persons cases, not every case can be priority #1, but still. With stories like this, I can't help but wonder how the outcome would have been different if the police had just... done their job. Thank you for posting well-researched, compassionate content; I'm so glad I found your channel!
How could it be double jeopardy? If a juror became tainted it should have been labeled a mistrial regardless if they had came up with guilty or not guilty of anything. They should at that point disregard the verdict and do a re-trial.
I see how you could think that, but the only thing that makes me say maybe not is just because someone has a bad relationship doesn't mean murder, ya know. If there was more evidence I would say yes but I just don't see any
But the boyfriend also kept going to the police station to say they weren’t looking hard enough. He was so upfront about the scratches I just don’t believe he was done abusing her . That sounds harsh but he seemed genuinely concerned.
Doesn't necessarily mean he killed her. I'm not saying he didn't either, but people do have consensual sex, and consensual rough sex which could explain the bite mark on her arm. There was nothing linking Denny to her MURDER. Finding his semen in her underwear could just mean they hooked up that night.
it’s always nice to watch solved cases every once in a while. idk like i always watch unsolved ones so i can make up theories myself but there’s something humbling about a solved case
yess and the reason denny kept changing his story was because she was only seen as missing at the time so he didn’t want it to get out that she cheated on him and cause trouble if/when she came back so he didn’t think it was necessary to tell them
@@crazyweirdgirl115 maybe he was blackmailed by the boyfriend, but the more serious the case got, the more he admitted because he knew he had to tell the truth
You are truly amazing Eleanor, you're an old head on young shoulders 🙌 I've only found your channel in the past few days but I've binge watched since. Mind yourself, you're a wonderful person xx
No forensic evidence to say that Denny killed her. There was evidence that they were together that night but no evidence that he did anything to her. The bite mark, it’s not as unique as a tounge print or a fingerprint, which everyone has an unique one. Teeth marks can be similar, there could be hundreds of people with similar teeth sets.
And the semen on the underwear was forensic evidence 24:15, that's the forensic evidence as well but she said that probably cause it didn't link him to the murder.
Watch the first three episodes of the innocence files and you’ll see how unreliable bite mark evidence is. Do think he was guilty though but bite mark evidence is not valid proof
!!! I am drunk but I just wanna say the school system is different but I failed my end of school chemistry exams but still graduated University with a bachelor of biomedical science with a double major! No idea what you guys were planning to do but just saying never give up because anything is possible!!
I mean the notion of 'teens run away they come back' is stupid as fuck. Like, boi, teens can be very stupid, and teens that run away can be under stress and be even dumber.
Aaargh I've already tried to write this so many times, then accidentally deleted, so I think it goes something like this. I love your work; you seem to be really dedicated and passionate about speaking for people who can't speak for themselves, and doing so in a really delicate and respectful way. I love the criminal psychology parts as well. This is definitely my thing! ❤️ And you are intuitive enough to get into the minds and hearts of these people. With other crime documentaries, I'm often left wondering who the victim was. It's like they didn't really exist outside of the murder. But not with Eleanor. You get into the victims mind, and their mindset. I come away from this feeling like I know the victims a little bit. Because we should know how they feel. You're very empathetic so you're really good at imagining how they would be thinking or feeling. And it is just as important as the criminal mind. Keep up the very precious work. Ps you have eye makeup talent galore! ☺️ For the love of Jesus please give me some eye makeup tips 😂! It always seems to be wrong! Every time I try, basic Goldy browny eyeshadow (stuck in that rut) it looks awful! I love trying new looks and adding little touches to them, but I end up looking like I have a black eye. How do you doooo iiiittt 😭 haha! Rant over. Thanks for the channel! XXX❤️☺️🦕👽
Did they even investigate the car scene like for tire marks or other cars that could possibly be connected to dennys car or most likely her boyfriends car!? Wtf the cop work on this is so bad they probably could have found skin particles or hair strands. Shoe marks could definitely been found.
Could the boyfriend have known about Danny and Hannah being together and killed Hannah and framed Danny as revenge? Maybe they were having a relationship with each other in secret?
Courtney X Ah yes I know, I mean that that is very heavy evidence to accuse him of the murder/rape. When she was saying there was no evidence on her body to connect him, the teeth marks prove that there definitely was! x
Eleanor: she had a boyfriend and they would argue a lot so she moved out of his house. Me: *WeLL tHat SetTleS iT* Lady:“Denny Ross can be aggressive and also did drugs” Me: *OH YEAH?*
Theory: Hannah’s boyfriend followed her to Denny’s house as they was having an affair. Boyfriend gets mad and kills her ? Or perhaps the boyfriend and Denny did the murder together ? 🤔
ok so here's my theory. ik im like a year late and i keep commenting on your vids but im binge watching them during quarantine so bear w me. denny said that he had gotten in a fight earlier with someone and he didnt specify who with. the boyfriend also had injuries bc of a fight. my theory is that hannah was unhappy with her relationship with her boyfriend. she went to denny to talk to about it but it wasnt just the night that she went to go see him. i think that she had been seeing him for a while. maybe because of the new bond between denny and hannah, they started seeing eachother on a more physical level. her boyfriend found out and confronted denny about it which lead to them getting in a fight. hannah was then upset that her bf fought with denny so she got into an altercation with her boyfriend about it. possibly that night hannah went to go apologize and work things out with denny. that night they also ended up sleeping together. her bf figured that she probably went out to go see him so he followed her there and waited for her to get out. he then snatched her and out of anger strangled her to death. he then put her in the trunk of her car and posed her to make it look like she had been raped. he then took her underclothes and put it in a bag. he brought the bag to denny's place to frame him. the bf knew that denny would be persecuted because of the semen on the panties. this would also explain why there was blood in denny's place. it may have been from denny and the bf's fight. that could also explain why he didnt say that he was with hannah that night in fear of what her bf would do to him. im not saying that denny is a good guy bc obviously a good man would never wreck a relationship like that or rape. denny is disgusting for having done what he did to that other woman
except that's been disproven for multiple reasons. 1) how would the boyfriend have gotten into the home to drop the bag two stories while police were there and gotten out without anyone seeing him? 2) Denny has been proven to be a violent person. In the rape case he was charged for, he also attempted to murder the woman, but she managed to get away. This establishes a pattern. The boyfriend however, from what I could find, has only ever been charged on drug trafficking (for which he served 2 months in a correctional facility) and there have been no other instances of abuse other than in his relationship with Hannah. He was still wrong to have abused her obviously, but there's no pattern of violent behaviour outside of his relationship with Hannah. 3) In the retrial against Denny Ross, they discovered new DNA evidence that convinced the jury to come back with a guilty sentence (I don't know what this DNA evidence was, but it was obviously enough for the jury to convict him). Denny has been shown to be willing to do anything to avoid being considered guilty (he denied several plea bargains which would have had him serving less time than he is now) so why wouldn't he come forward with the truth if the boyfriend did it and threatened him? It just doesn't add up. Please stop defending a rapist and murderer. The only thing it serves to do is harm Hannah's memory and those of her family and friends that are left who have to deal with people like you trying to make her murderer out to be innocent.
@@petalsandpinstripes9905 the whole point is if the boyfriend was framing Denny then the bag wouldn't have been dropped from inside the home, the boyfriend would have just put it in line with the window to make it look like it was dropped. Like they said in the video, the bag was untied yet nothing really had fallen out, which would suggest it wasn't dropped but was placed there. Also what do you mean 'why wouldn't he come forward with the truth if the boyfriend did it and threatened him' - I'm assuming if the boyfriend did it, this was after she left Denny's place so Denny wouldn't have known. I think the OP meant that Denny was reluctant to tell the police about sleeping with Hannah for fear of the boyfriends reaction. Also Denny's denial of a plea bargain makes him appear less guilty not more, as if he knew he did it so would be convicted anyway surely he would accept the plea deal to get a lighter sentence. I personally have no idea and I'm not trying to say Denny is innocent - he could well have done it. But your arguments to 'disprove' this theory don't hold much weight.
You know how sometimes you don't know how you get on a string of binging certain UA-cam videos? I stumbled on yours and have watched several of them. First, I want to congratulate you on your grasp of American law and the ability you have to explain it. Well done. Second, I just have to tell you how lovely I think you are. Your makeup is always impeccable and beautifully done.
I’m from Akron, Oh born and raised. I clicked on this video randomly. I was shook asf when you said this was based in Akron. I never heard of this!! I’ve heard of crazy stories in Akron. This is by far one of them.
i live a town over (or a couple towns over, cant remember, definitely nearby tho) to akron and theres SO many cases from akron on this channel... scary
I wonder if they could verify that Denny got his broken arm BEFORE the murder. Because to me thats a significant point. Getting a body down stairs and into the boot of a car with a broken arm seems difficult, not impossible (could he have just let her roll down the stairs, in which case there would be evidence of that on the stairs), but difficult. And doing all of that without leaving any forensic link is hard to believe. But having said that, I find it even harder to believe that anyone other than him did this. ESPECIALLY after finding out he was convicted of another rape years later. Great case Eleanor! Id never heard of this one!! xx
Denny lied about seeing Hannah that night, he had her clothes ON his property and blood splatter on the walls (even though they said they weren't hers) and SHE called him...come on...definitely him.
Thanks for covering this case I'm from Akron Ohio and I never seen no other true crime UA-camrs cover this case so thanks so much!! I was actually in a treatment facility with Brad oborn he did some prison time for robbing a bank but has since been clean and sober and has a really good job and I believe he is married now
I’m thinking Hannah was cheating on her boyfriend with Denny, she leaves his house and her boyfriend is waiting for her because he followed her, he kills her, takes off her clothes and plants it at Denny’s house, to get back at both of them. Just a theory.
Ellie Woodward That’s what I thought but then why hasn’t Denny turned her boyfriend in? If Denny did not know that her boyfriend killed Hannah, at least he would have been able to suspect him. Another point this theory overlooks is the scratches and bites on Hannah’s body. If they were having consensual sex then why all the scratching and biting? These things can happen during sex but Denny knew she had a boyfriend so why would he leave those on her body since her boyfriend could see them and suspect something?
but the boyfriend was also scratched up which makes me believe maybe its was the bf who killed her after seeing her with this guy and ive been bitten scratched up during sex before im just saying their are kinks in it and the fact he wasnt scratched up but the ex was and the fact the cloths were outside and the way she was planted in the car also he has a broken arm at the time how could he long her down to the car and place her in that way also the boyfriend could have placed her that way because she cheated to show she was a "hoe" i mean their are ways to pass a lie test ive done it before it is difficult but keeping your heart rate down and you breathing evenly but also some people can get away with it but ultimately forgetting the tramatic incident it just all seems like the boyfriend murdered her knowing he was abusive beforehand but the guy raping another girl later on the thing is at the time he had a broken are there is just not a high possibility he could hold her down and rape her and strangle her to death i mean usually people use two hands to strangle someone he has one i mean unless she was physically very weak she could have broke free but what gets me is the scratch marks on the ex they should have checked her fingernails with dna yea maybe he did rape her but i dont think he was the one who killed her i think the boyfriend did in all honesty
Ellie Woodward I think that’s a possibility but maybe the boyfriend and Denny were working together because both of them have a history of being aggressive so maybe that’s a possibility
also the fact he raped another girl later on but didnt kill her is like why not like if he killed and got away with it the first time why wouldnt he kill his next victim i believe atleast the bf was apart of it i think the bf made it all happen and why did she go to this guys house particularly when she told her friends to stay away from him he is sketchy what if they were secretly seeing each other behind the bf back and he caught wind and somehow threatened the guy to set this up idk the fact he wasnt scratched up and had a broken arm just doesnt seem plausible that he could have done it alone and the bf got away clean and the fact they didnt look into the bf more even scratched up and only questioned him for a lil bit he probably has family in high circles and the other guy isnt a snitch because he was threatened or something
I think the boyfriend and Ross worked together - they both had aggression issues, Hannah had been physically abused in her relationship. She apparently said to Ross that he was very controlling and wouldn’t let her see her friends - so could he have followed her that night? It was said that Ross’ place had no rules and was a party house - could the boyfriend have caught them having sex? Did the two men know each other? If so, maybe they could have shared their views on women - it was said that Ross was aggressive in getting what he wanted and we know her boyfriend attacked her. If they did know each other and held these same views - could they have set Hannah up and then killed her? It would explain the boyfriends scratches and the bite mark from Ross. Maybe they wanted to humiliate her not kill her initially but then they went too far.. then the boyfriend goes to the police and could have said that Ross was the one they should be watching, and told them about the bag of clothes, and that’s why he was dropped as a suspect.. I really don’t think anyone will ever know what really happened to Hannah unfortunately, and Ross clearly played some part in her murder, but did he act alone? I’m not so sure.
Also the blood at the apartment would most likely have come from fights during parties, I don’t find that too unusual. Especially as none of it was Hannah’s blood - but if she was strangled to death like the autopsy report showed, there wouldn’t necessarily be any blood anyway
I would have thought, if they were working together, why wouldn't ross say anything about the boyfriend being involved in his defense? Especially in the retrial when he no doubt knew that he was finally going to get charged with the murder, i find it hard to believe that he would take the fall for the boyfriend? But who knows, there's always a possibility i guess
ali 19 unless the boyfriend was somehow connected to the police.. I dunno, I find it odd that the interview with him was never released by the police, and he was suddenly dropped as a suspect despite suspicious scratches on his face, if that was the case, then even if Ross did come out and say he was involved the claims would have been futile
love your content, you're one of the few youtubers who actually makes coherent, interesting true crime videos, and also cases that aren't over-done like jonbenet ramsey, 10/10 would stan
I am amazed you covered this story! I live the next city over and I remember all of this happening!!! The day they found her body in the trunk (boot) was such a sad day 😢 You did an amazing job covering a difficult case.👍
I’m wondering if she slept with Denny, went back and told her boyfriend and then the boyfriend killed her and tried to frame Denny 🤔 I really don’t know 🤷🏻♀️
@@leila458 a lot of people will do that, she didn't want to be in the relationship with her boyfriend. So in the heat of an argument she told him. Who knows but it's not really that odd for somebody to admit that.
"He sent an officer out to put a parking ticket" on the missing girl's car. The police are always so helpful in these missing persons cases, I don't know what we would do without them.
I couldn't imagine being a parent and having my daughter's case being pushed aside for a whole week and then when you finally have hope of justice, a biased jury causes him to leave with no charge. My heart truly goes out to the family.
The random splatters of blood ALL around Denny's apartment that didn't match up? My best guess is heroin users. When Hannah's friend Jennifer said "you could do ANYTHING at Denny's house. Anything." And the fact that denny was caught dealing coke. It doesnt mean denny himself or Hannah herself was an intraveinous user but it's very possible he had friends that did. Heroin users sometimes after getting blood into their syringe will squirt it out, leaving a splatter effect. Steve-o has a great story on that.
Will you please do the case from St Louis Missouri on Joseph Marcus Lee? We called him Jojo he was one of my best friends who got shot in the middle of the night. The details are so disturbing and he was killed by a car full of high school kids from Kirkwood. The man who murdered him is on bail last I heard. If you have any questions you can message me I am in direct contact with his mother and the mother of his son who was actually not even born until after Jojo died. It is so heartbreaking and nobody really knows about him. It happened august 2017.
Ok to clear a couple of things up bc I clearly wasn't on my A Game when trying to explain this case! *spoilers also*
So when I said there was no forensic evidence to link Denny to Hannah, I meant there was no forensic evidence to say it was him that killed her. Yes I know there was evidence to say they were together that night such as the semen sample, but like I said many times in the video - that doesn't mean Denny killed her - it could just mean they were together before she was killed.
In respect to the teeth marks on Hannah's arm that matched Denny's teeth - teeth shapes aren’t as unique as say a fingerprint & it’s common for people to have VERY similar teeth sets, so it’s evidence in the fact that they match the main suspect, but they could also match hundreds of other people too. So take that how you will.
Sorry for not explaining that during the video! Reply to this comment with any other questions you might have & I'll try to clear it up for you! Thanks so much for watching!
Eleanor Neale I love your videos! This one made me so angry and sad for Hannah and her family. Thank you for sharing her story in such a gentle way, and for giving her the respect and dignity she deserves.
Eleanor Neale love your videos, you're so good at this! Also, ypur eye makeup looks so beautiful here! Lalalalalooooooovvvvvve!!!!!!! 😄😚
Eleanor Neale I thought you did a really good job explaining this case, it was a long one and you covered it very professionally. Also I think your meaning was pretty clear regarding the evidence tying him to the crime scene etc. You did good kid. Your passion for these people and cases really shows
Was there any DNA linking anyone else? Because if there was no DNA in the car or on Hannah that means whoever did it got lucky or cleaned well. And the circumstantial evidence against Denny carries more weight. If someone’s DNA was found, but couldn’t be identified then I’d be more inclined to believe the possibility that Denny was framed.
What about the semen that matched Denny’s dna? That’s huge
I have been reading and watching so many abduction cases lately that I keep thinking how hard it must be to be a parent. I wonder how can you protect your kid while respecting his/her freedom and personal space.
Cindy Chatzi in situations like this nothing a parent could do would have prevented it . Life is unfair .
Cindy Chatzi i work as a nanny and i find myself in that constant battle nearly every day, especially with my oldest who’s 12 :/
My husband and I have an absolutely gorgeous, and oh-so precious, 4 year old little girl... and we ask ourselves this same question every day... I do know we'll give our lives for her in a heartbeat, but for some families, unfortunately that just doesn't seem to be enough sometimes. We live in a world full of monsters, and it's (pardon my languague) truly fucking terrifying...
Eli yes!! I feel your struggle. I take care of a 7 year old and I have to constantly have an eye on her when we go out for my peace of mind. I know these abductions happen in seconds. It’s the scariest thing.
Shout out to all the nannies/babysitters. My mom is a nanny. You are doing a crazy hard job, but the kids will appreciate it for life.
If I’m ever murdered I hope to god that my family reaches the good cops bc it’s sickening to hear stories about cops not being helpful...
Cat yeah, these are always the saddest ones, because it really doesn’t take that much to put the report on the system, look in the car, etc, etc. there are so many small things that they ignored, it’s just infuriating.
If I die, nobody will eat my chicken noodle soup. I will eat that when I'm in hell.
Me too
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I swear if I'm ever murdered and elenor doesn't cover my case I'll be so sad
connie you won’t know if she does or doesn’t lol 😆
Emily Hume lol
Phew, I thought I was the only one who thinks about stuff like that😅
UA-cam youngest GRANDMA if you don’t mind me asking, what did you do to go to prison for 8years
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First Denny said that he hadn't seen Hannah at all. Then he said that him and Hannah had only kissed that night. After the semen was found in her underwear, THEN he says there was consensual sex?!! Somebody who changes their story that much just cannot be innocent.
Kellie Cronogue unless he was scared to be in trouble.
I think they were caught by the boyfriend. Yes her and Denny had sex but it’s possible the boyfriend beat her. He did have scratch marks on his arm.
He was probably scared and nervous or under pressure
Think about it this way. He might not want people to hear about him hooking up with Hannah when she had a boyfriend, therefor, though twisted, he might have been nervous to mention it to his friends or Hannah's friends.
But there is also a possibility that they had sex and Denny kept it secret because she had a boyfriend who could beat the shit out of him. Police hadn't interviewed him until just before they arrested him, he had just told his friends and Hannah's that he hadn't seen her. Presumably because she had a known, controlling boyfriend. Idk I just don't see enough evidence to charge the man with a capital offence
I hate when authorities say, the person is young and young people run away all the time... it’s like no, if someone is missing.. they’re missing. That’s important time they’re wasting. What’s the worst that can happen if they start immediately?? The missing person comes home and they’re safe... THATS A GOOD THING!! We hear that line all the time in crime videos. It’s frustrating. 😡
Having been a former P.O. Its not that simple. People do go missing a lot. Especially women. They get tired of their family friends boyfriends or lesbian girlfriends. They up and leave. And just pop up again two months later. Women leave small towns all the time and go to bigger city's like L.A. NYC, Chicago and Miami. and they get drunk in a bar get arrested and police from another state will call us and say You guys looking for a woman named Mary Joe? We will say yea can you send me a picture. They send you a mug shot and I will be damned that's her. So I tell the officer on the other end of the phone "Tell her to call her damn mother.." And we close the file. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY CASES ARE JUST LIKE THIS!? Most of them. Sometimes we are wrong but 90% of the times we are right..
@@Donovandoit2me that's exactly what OP is saying though. Just because a lot of them disappear and turn up again that doesn't mean action shouldn't be taken immediately because of the chance that something actually happened to them. Just assuming that they just left and they'll turn up is a dangerous way of thinking even if you are right most of the time. Like she said what's the worst that can happen? They turn up fine? While on the other hand if you just assume they're a runaway the worst that can happen is they were actually abducted or murdered and there was nothing done about it.
@@nicolecheyenne4982 I really think that it's not that easy. How many police officers would it take to search for every missing person? I agree with you, it would be better, but I think that it's just not manageable
@@Donovandoit2me no it's because y'all are fucking lazy pigs if someone is worried that makes a missing person report they're obviously doing it for a reason y'all would just rather be sorry than safe
@@moriebam it is manageable the government just doesn't give a fuck
Anyone else deeply disturbed by the fact that police officer defined rape as: "when there's violence, and then sex, and someone dies, that's how you get the rape." yIKES.
I was literally gonna comment this
They gotta be clear. Rape can also involve no violence. It can involve drugging or just threatening.
@yuta Uh, yeah. Good job.
That cop really pissed me off when he said that. You don't have to die or be beaten half to death to be raped.
I think they meant since they found she had had sex before her death they think it's rape based on the violence and the fact that shes dead
"Why would he keep the clothes?" literally no one said he was smart i mean...
Alyssa Winchester he could of been framed
@@hi-bv6er could of but most likely not since he kept changing his story like first he said she wasn't at her house then they found her clothes, so he changed his story to they kissed but that's all then they found she had sex, so he said he did have sex but it was consensual.
Little Cuties true but still a possibility
@@hi-bv6er Also it's not unheard of for killers to keep clothes as trophies.
Keeps the clothing because it's a phycos trophy, a remembrance of their evil doings
That’s some crappy police work
Stephanie Sharp always is
When is there not
Akron is a crappy town with some crappy police. I am from that area. Hannah and I had mutual friends, though I did not know her. This whole mess is so sad. Such a tragedy.
Most of these crime cases show really poor police work or in some cases, poor social worker work too :c
In this case it does seem so however police are understaffed and need to prioritise cases
Honestly rape can be weird with someone who you know and have a relationship with. After my rape they found no tearing or scarring but that could be contributed to the fact that instead of fighting back i froze and let it happen. This is what happened to me so that’s the only reason when they say there was no tearing or anything i dont really see it as a very deciding factor.
I know I’m late but I’m so sorry that happened to u, ur so strong!
So sorry to hear that
Sorry for your experience that shouldn't have happened.
Agreed. The physical evidence of rape usually comes from violent force and from a lot of fighting back. However a lot of women do NOT fight back over fear of being assaulted further, and depending on the perpetrator, not fighting back can mean they take it a lot easier on the victim. This is especially true if the attacker is already connected to the victim.
My first boyfriend raped me in his bedroom, with the lights on and the door open while his parents were right upstairs. I didn't fight back. I didn't scream. I didn't want to get in trouble or have anyone see/know what was happening. It was humiliating, it was devastating, but there were no physical signs I had been assaulted....other than the fact I started self harming that night and still have the scars, so I'll never forget.
@@meganwoehl5277 So sorry that happened to you, I hope your doing better now. I have said this before, rape isn't always easy to prove, that's why so man men get away and do it again, and again. Victims are made to feel like its something to be a shamed about, where the only one who should be a shamed is him.
Denny’s dad seems like the type that would do ANYTHING for his son...Maybe even help cleanup a crime scene? A random stranger wouldn’t have known which car was Hannah’s unless he’d been watching her beforehand.
LittleReddStar damn, you might be on to something
and the way he was grinning in that first clip of him speaking :/ ew
Yeah..I know his dad VERY well..and I speak from PERSONAL expirence..he would do anything..ANYTHING..
@@heathernmine9077 yeah uhhh no, not just gonna take your word on it
yeah he speaks very highly of his son like in the movies where the popular boy at school is a big fat jerk and his dad is rich and lets him do whatever he wants
I went to school with Hannah and Brad. I remember seeing her car sitting on that street....we called police over and over and they always said they would send someone to check it out...I know they didn't come as many times as we called. I had been to Denny's house a couple of times, with fiends, and let me tell you HE WAS SO CREEPY! His eyes were weird, like they were empty. I can't describe it. I still live in Akron and drive by Caine Rd almost every day. I don't think our police dept will ever live this down....they messed up sooo bad....sad that Denny went on to rape another girl, but at least he is in prison for that one. Thank you for covering this case. I still miss my friend😢
Wow
Please don’t lie for attention
such a tragic and disturbing case.
For they eyes part, I know exactly what you mean.
@@snailcheeseyoutube You wouldn't know if they were actually lying, don't assume so fast just because it's the internet, it could actually be someone who knew her.
Imagine being Hannah in the boot of the car fighting for her life praying someone would rescue her and the police just ignoring the calls probably handing out speeding tickets. Unreal. Poor girl x
She died of strangulation which means she was dead when she was put in the trunk.
That wouldn’t have been how it happened because they said the cause of death was strangulation. So she had died before she was shut in the boot
@@TwizzlerGirl true but there cud also be different scenarios
Her body was posed in a sexual manner, meaning it was placed in the boot after she died and moved into position.
@@shvannon8223 not really. If she died before she got into the boot there’s not situation where they would’ve heard her in the boot
Whether it was Brad or Denny, she was in an abusive relationship and was brutally murdered, she didn’t deserve that. The poor girl just didn’t have it easy whatsoever and she was unfortunately killed in a way that is sickening. I hope she rests in peace and she is no longer hurting physically or emotionally❤️
Emma Piper me too 💖💖😢
Emma Piper
But it matters if it was brad or Danny. She will never Rest In Peace if she doesn’t get justice
I think it was the boyfriend he saw Hannah come out of Dennys house and then he killed her after she cheated on him.
I have become addicted to watching your videos, which probably isn't good as I'm in the middle of my GCSEs, but oh well your content is just sooo good!!!
6 years later. I hope your GCSEs went well and your life is going how you want it to🩷
So this man went from "I havent seen her" to "We only kissed" to "We had sex" and you're telling me they let him go? I'm glad they sentenced him in the end.
It’s so upsetting how horrible this case was handled
Only at 1:42 but every time you introduce a boyfriend my brain goes -
He did it!
SAME!!!
Same
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i think he made everything obvious in order to provide a defense that perhaps he was framed, instead of hiding it.
Koala Rizo whoa that just exploded my mind. I never in a million years woulda thought of that!
but that would suggest that he was expecting to get caught
That's an excellent point, but judging from looks and how he acts, I doubt he'd uh.. be able to think of that lol.
Most people who kill aren't completely non-feeling psychopaths who just wants to kill everyone in brutal ways.
Very interesting point, I kinda suspect he had kept the clothes as a souvenir and then tossed them when he realized the cops were coming. It wouldn't be the first time a murderer kept something to look back on
Sarah Carney what if the boyfriend helped to see if she would cheat on him and after the bly friends OH MY
It made me sad when Eleanor said that Hanna just graduated, got a car and was going to college :( she was JUST starting her life...
She was also her parents only child. He stole their only child and his father still makes excuses for his sociopath he raised to be so entitled he thought he deserved everything even stealing lives.
I know this is off subject but... your makeup on fleek sis
It always is 👌👌
Was thinking the same
that is extremely rude this is about a murder not a james charles makeup video have some respect damn.
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You should check out Bailey Sarian if you haven’t already, she does her make up while going over cases on Mondays
It bothers me so much not knowing what proved the boyfriend couldn't have done it. so horrible how Hannah was left though. hopefully she'll always be remembered with dignity
my guess is he was probably having an affair, which would put a bad label on him and he didn't want that to get out to the public.
I think it was the boyfriend he saw Hannah come out of Dennys house and then he killed her after she cheated on him.
ms. will always love my life how can you say something like that about someone you never met and knew nothing about? even if she did cheat, which i doubt she did, she didn’t deserve to be murdered. nobody deserves that.
ms. will always love my life although I don’t usually agree with cheating, she was being abused by her boyfriend so she might’ve felt like there was no escape and cheating might’ve been the only way she could feel some love.
That being said, there’s no proof that Hannah was cheating, Denny could’ve raped her which is obviously not cheating. Going to someone’s house doesn’t mean she’s cheating, they could’ve been friends (even if he did murder her, she could’ve thought they were friends).
I still have suspension on the bf.. I think he fits. Why didn't they ever see if his DNA was under her fingernails?! He's guilty of something for sure
It’s the way they left her car OUT THERE for DAYS while she was inside... god that breaks my heart.
what the hell are we paying police for?!
“Peace of mind” supposedly
To go out and ticket cars that are reported to have been sat in the same spot for a days.
To arrest you
TheJewelTheory we don't pay them. We don't own them. They have a job to do, but we aren't their bosses. If they aren't doing their jobs correctly we as citizens have the right to file greivences against them as they are employed to protect and serve the citizens.
To feel safe
You're always so respectful, informative, and have passion with these cases. We love your true crime/mystery cases but don't push yourself or rush. You're doing a fabulous job! Don't change a thing!
I've been through a home invasion & I can tell you this... you never know how you'll react to a situation until you're in it. I always thought I'd be sensible & hide/play it safe. But something primal comes out & I was actually enraged & fought like a wild animal. I screamed threats, I chased after them when they left & tried to smash up their car to make it easy for police to identify. Basically all the things you're told NOT to do in that type of situation.
I was almost killed, but I did leave a trail of evidence & that's exactly what I screamed at them. 'You try and kill me, I'll get your DNA all over me & all over my house mf - YOU BETTER RUN!' - I didn't say that exactly but that was the vibe I was going for.
So 2 of the 3 attackers immediately bailed, the other one did initially but doubled back & tried to kill me after I fucked with his car, but I escaped. I definitely wouldn't recommend going after anyone the way I did, but I DO recommend making it damn clear that you're going to fight to the end & make it impossible to get away clean.
What I want to know is what was under this girl's finger nails. Seems like she fought back, there had to have been something there...
That's such a badass reaction to a home invasion tbh
When you showed dennys house and said it was the party house with no parents and you could do whatever I was like 'oh, ok so the entitled psychopath rich boy lives there' and then he got in trouble for drugs and i was like 'yeah of course, bet it's coke and he gets no jail time' ...check. yeah i know this type and he definitely did it. Once you said his daddy got him an expensive team of lawyers? Confirmed. Other kids hang out with these types and tolerate them being total creeps (remember hannah warning her friend?) because they have the party house and its fun to go there and it just makes their behaviour worse when they already grow up spoiled by their parents.
madi5286 Daddy sleeps with secretary, abuses his mum, drinks too much does coke provided by her son, she does not work but sleeps with pool boy
@@marionjames4986 as much as I don't believe he should be allowed use this as an excuse if he's aware of it, I blame his parents. They had a kid when they clearly weren't ready for that! That's like giving a puppy to a child who has no idea what responsibility is yet, of course their son turned out bad.. And Geez, why are we trying to make clones and AI before we even figure out how to take care of the life that we create naturally?? This is a clear sign that we need to take a step back and seriously work on our behaviour, as a species.
@@marionjames4986 Denny's my ex of thirteen years..my name's Heather hamrick..Google it..you don't know what the hell your talking about..how much time have you ever spent personally with Denny's dad ????. I'm pretty damn sure I've spent way more time with Daddy than you did
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This eye look is everything!!
i know this is two years off but i am confused as to why Eleanors pp is at the end of your username, ive been seeing a lot of it, what does it mean??
@@gabriellawhitton3907 Same how to ppl do that
“Hannah just wasn’t the type of person to ditch a job...”
**GUITAR MUSIC INTENSIFIES**
😂 that guitar music was so random omg
If the boyfriend had scratches why didn’t they check under Hannah’s fingernails?
Exactly
David M isn’t that what she said?
He already had said that she scratched him though.... so his skin would be under her nails, regardless
Disturbed Kay yeah but the so called “argument” they had was a few days before she went missing, idk how to say this but she cleaned it?..so the police probably didn’t suspect anything.
This!!
Makeup is amazing. Video is amazing. There’s nothing she can’t do 😂❤️
i think 100% denny was involved but he probably had an accomplice
I think the boyfriend had a hand in it. Then again, there isn't too much evidence for that.
There's so much evidence pointing in so many different directions...
same
Wow..it could never of been me ..( Denny's girlfriend of 13 years who was also there that night )..I heard "that Heather hamrick girl is to slick to get cought""
@@heathernmine9077 what are you trying to say? Lol
@@britnysnyder4991 I was just joking..I know it's nothing to joke about..but Im naturally humorous..I can't help it..and I've been accused of SO much shit in that freaking case..but my dumb ass forgets that my "reply" to people around here that talk shit..I forget the fact that people hundreds of miles away only see my "reply" to the people I'd like to just say it to in person..so any smart ass remark I make us basically just to the Springfield area ..I'm sorry if I offend anyone who don't know me..but as I'm told ..when ya get to know me..I'm a funny ass bitch !!😁😸..( in a good way..)
When u know her disclaimer by heart, you know you’ve got problems 😂
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"I'd just like to give my usual disclaimer that I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone I talk about in this video. This is all information I've found on the internet that I'm compiling into one video."
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Going through old videos now and I gotta say; GIRL THAT LIPSTICK LOOKS STUNNING ON YOU
This whole case screams police misconduct. That poor girl deserved justice!
So tragic that the police ignored this for a week 😔
Yet they sent someone to ticket her car that had been reported left in the same spot for a few days straight away 😡🤬
Yeah thats sad 😥
I know there could’ve been a chance she was still barely alive and died because of lack of oxygen
what if the boyfriend actually murdered her after finding out that she slept with Denny (as said that her boyfriend was very abusive towards her) then planted the bag of clothes on Denny’s property. As we know, he had all these scratches and bruises kn him. How did he get those?
I agree! Denny maybe had consensual sex with her that night and then her real boyfriend found out and got mad and framed Denny! It would make sense as to why they found dennys semen on her clothes- but the bite mark matching dennys teeth still doesn't make sense. I don't think denny could do this alone with a broken wrist and I fully believe her boyfriend was involved and is walking free!
I think exacly like you on this
@@hanakhan4482 the bite mark could've just been a kinky thing not even related to her muder?
The only thing thats makes me think falsely of this theory is how hannah was weary and even warned her friends about denny, so why would she sleep with him? and then especially with a boyfriend youd think that denny isnt worth it.
I AGREE!!! i was thinking exactly this.
So many of the cases you cover involve neglect from the authorities. I understand that, with the frequency of missing persons cases, not every case can be priority #1, but still. With stories like this, I can't help but wonder how the outcome would have been different if the police had just... done their job. Thank you for posting well-researched, compassionate content; I'm so glad I found your channel!
no ads?? girl you work harder than most youtubers on youtube! You deserve so much more attenton!
How could it be double jeopardy? If a juror became tainted it should have been labeled a mistrial regardless if they had came up with guilty or not guilty of anything. They should at that point disregard the verdict and do a re-trial.
I feel like the boyfriend was involved too
same because they both had scratches and he was abusive
I see how you could think that, but the only thing that makes me say maybe not is just because someone has a bad relationship doesn't mean murder, ya know. If there was more evidence I would say yes but I just don't see any
Sameeee
But the boyfriend also kept going to the police station to say they weren’t looking hard enough. He was so upfront about the scratches I just don’t believe he was done abusing her . That sounds harsh but he seemed genuinely concerned.
I feel like the boyfriend was following her and saw her kiss the other guy, then went crazy.
Your makeup is so flawless I’m in love 😍
Panic! At the Bookshop yes, I would like to watch make up tutorials :D
i’m just binge watching all of your videos, you tell the stories so well and it’s nice to listen to. keep it up!! :D (btw ur make up is so beautiful)
"they found semen in her underwear, from Denny"
"there was nothing linking Denny to Hannah's car or her body"
I got lost
Hmm same. I think she's made a few reporting errors in this story
Also the bite marks
technically not on her body, as her underwear was in the bag with the clothes
@@lemons2001 but she even said that the bag of clothes doesn’t link them either. i’m so confused
Doesn't necessarily mean he killed her. I'm not saying he didn't either, but people do have consensual sex, and consensual rough sex which could explain the bite mark on her arm. There was nothing linking Denny to her MURDER. Finding his semen in her underwear could just mean they hooked up that night.
the police really dropped the ball on this case they should’ve been sued and held responsible
it’s always nice to watch solved cases every once in a while. idk like i always watch unsolved ones so i can make up theories myself but there’s something humbling about a solved case
Hear me out. Hannah cheats on her boyfriend.
He has been following her, right?
He gets jealous, kills her, frames Denny. Boom.
That's what I think a
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why did denny lie and change his story so many times then?
yess and the reason denny kept changing his story was because she was only seen as missing at the time so he didn’t want it to get out that she cheated on him and cause trouble if/when she came back so he didn’t think it was necessary to tell them
@@crazyweirdgirl115 maybe he was blackmailed by the boyfriend, but the more serious the case got, the more he admitted because he knew he had to tell the truth
What lipstick are you wearing? It's beautiful!!!!!!!!
Porcelain yes I want to know as well!
Porcelain it looks similar to Calabasas by Jeffree Star
It looks more muave than Calabasas.
Porcelain yes I agree I think it’s more mauve.
It matches your pictures hair! (I’m not sure if it’s you! But if so your beautiful!!!))))
You are truly amazing Eleanor, you're an old head on young shoulders 🙌 I've only found your channel in the past few days but I've binge watched since. Mind yourself, you're a wonderful person xx
I just found your channel last night and have been watching you like crazy. Can I just say you’re freaking gorgeous?
Same name club!
"Ther was no forensic evidence" what about the bite mark and fibers from his cast
No forensic evidence to say that Denny killed her. There was evidence that they were together that night but no evidence that he did anything to her. The bite mark, it’s not as unique as a tounge print or a fingerprint, which everyone has an unique one. Teeth marks can be similar, there could be hundreds of people with similar teeth sets.
And the semen on the underwear was forensic evidence 24:15, that's the forensic evidence as well but she said that probably cause it didn't link him to the murder.
Watch the first three episodes of the innocence files and you’ll see how unreliable bite mark evidence is. Do think he was guilty though but bite mark evidence is not valid proof
It could’ve came from the trunk as well
Bite mark evidence is bs .
I am honestly in love how you deliver the stories… and your sweet accent.
ugh YES i needed this after my shambolic chemistry a level today !! love ur videos so much
Same gurl, same
was this aqa chemistry? coz if so same
Oh gosh watching this more than a month later and I'm still getting flashbacks of those chemistry exams
What did you get?
!!! I am drunk but I just wanna say the school system is different but I failed my end of school chemistry exams but still graduated University with a bachelor of biomedical science with a double major! No idea what you guys were planning to do but just saying never give up because anything is possible!!
What's the logic of the polices way?
"Oh, 18 year old is gone. Ran away like everyone else."
"ThE 18 YeAr oLd is DeAd!"
“WOAH wE dIdN’t SeE tHiS cOmInG!”
I mean the notion of 'teens run away they come back' is stupid as fuck.
Like, boi, teens can be very stupid, and teens that run away can be under stress and be even dumber.
Aaargh I've already tried to write this so many times, then accidentally deleted, so I think it goes something like this.
I love your work; you seem to be really dedicated and passionate about speaking for people who can't speak for themselves, and doing so in a really delicate and respectful way. I love the criminal psychology parts as well. This is definitely my thing! ❤️ And you are intuitive enough to get into the minds and hearts of these people. With other crime documentaries, I'm often left wondering who the victim was. It's like they didn't really exist outside of the murder. But not with Eleanor. You get into the victims mind, and their mindset. I come away from this feeling like I know the victims a little bit. Because we should know how they feel. You're very empathetic so you're really good at imagining how they would be thinking or feeling. And it is just as important as the criminal mind. Keep up the very precious work.
Ps you have eye makeup talent galore! ☺️ For the love of Jesus please give me some eye makeup tips 😂! It always seems to be wrong! Every time I try, basic Goldy browny eyeshadow (stuck in that rut) it looks awful! I love trying new looks and adding little touches to them, but I end up looking like I have a black eye. How do you doooo iiiittt 😭 haha! Rant over. Thanks for the channel! XXX❤️☺️🦕👽
i should stop watching these at 1am and freaking myself out lol
I watched these all day. I fell asleep in 3 am because i was afraid.
I do that all the time lol
It’s 11:23 am right now where I am and I’m even freaking out right now😬
same here lol
i listen to these videos to fall asleep at night lol
your eyes look BEAUTIFUL
Eleanor: "and at times Brad could be a bit physically abusive..."
me: "HE DID IT, HE DID IT!"
He didn’t do it
Did they even investigate the car scene like for tire marks or other cars that could possibly be connected to dennys car or most likely her boyfriends car!? Wtf the cop work on this is so bad they probably could have found skin particles or hair strands. Shoe marks could definitely been found.
MilkyShakeWay MSP lets get forensic files up in here lol
Casey Pacheco damn you should be a detective 🧐
Could the boyfriend have known about Danny and Hannah being together and killed Hannah and framed Danny as revenge? Maybe they were having a relationship with each other in secret?
J T Henry that's what I was thinking too...
Yeah but then why didn't Danny tell the police they were having an affair
What about Denny’s bite mark on her arm
Sissi 1310 they were probably having consensual sex and he tried giving a hickey?
Lalain Mashood that makes no sense
Eye makeup on point today Eleanor xxx
I know this is off topic but your eye makeup is AMAZING!
Biggggg facts
hahahaha i’m just gonna complement her makeup randomly on a brutal murder of a girl hahahaha fuck off post that comment on her second channel my nigga
nibble 888 shut up
@@nibble8884 what are you, the comment police? People can leave a comment wherever they want to...just like YOUR goofy ass.😒✌🏾
@@nibble8884 u mad u cant do makeup orr
What about the teeth marks? That was evidence on her body that it was him, that piece of evidence seems to be definitely overlooked.
Phoebe Dowling Great Point!
Eleanor said in the video that the teeth marks matched his teeth
Courtney X Ah yes I know, I mean that that is very heavy evidence to accuse him of the murder/rape. When she was saying there was no evidence on her body to connect him, the teeth marks prove that there definitely was! x
Phoebe Dowling yeah 100% and the fibers on her from his cast and if he was framed how can someone get his semen that was in the bag
Phoebe Dowling she also said that Dennys semen was found in her underwear in the bag that was dumped under his window x
I am watching this on june 14 2023 and love true crime and love the solved ones. You give a great spin to each video.❤😢😮
Eleanor: she had a boyfriend and they would argue a lot so she moved out of his house.
Me: *WeLL tHat SetTleS iT*
Lady:“Denny Ross can be aggressive and also did drugs”
Me: *OH YEAH?*
I love how you tell the story and respect the victims in all cases. I’m a mother of two from the US and take these stories to heart.
Theory: Hannah’s boyfriend followed her to Denny’s house as they was having an affair. Boyfriend gets mad and kills her ? Or perhaps the boyfriend and Denny did the murder together ? 🤔
The boyfriend had nothing to do with the murder, watch the dateline episode for more insight if need be
ok so here's my theory. ik im like a year late and i keep commenting on your vids but im binge watching them during quarantine so bear w me.
denny said that he had gotten in a fight earlier with someone and he didnt specify who with. the boyfriend also had injuries bc of a fight. my theory is that hannah was unhappy with her relationship with her boyfriend. she went to denny to talk to about it but it wasnt just the night that she went to go see him. i think that she had been seeing him for a while. maybe because of the new bond between denny and hannah, they started seeing eachother on a more physical level. her boyfriend found out and confronted denny about it which lead to them getting in a fight. hannah was then upset that her bf fought with denny so she got into an altercation with her boyfriend about it. possibly that night hannah went to go apologize and work things out with denny. that night they also ended up sleeping together. her bf figured that she probably went out to go see him so he followed her there and waited for her to get out. he then snatched her and out of anger strangled her to death. he then put her in the trunk of her car and posed her to make it look like she had been raped. he then took her underclothes and put it in a bag. he brought the bag to denny's place to frame him. the bf knew that denny would be persecuted because of the semen on the panties.
this would also explain why there was blood in denny's place. it may have been from denny and the bf's fight. that could also explain why he didnt say that he was with hannah that night in fear of what her bf would do to him.
im not saying that denny is a good guy bc obviously a good man would never wreck a relationship like that or rape. denny is disgusting for having done what he did to that other woman
i think this is the best theory tbh
This theory is amazing
except that's been disproven for multiple reasons. 1) how would the boyfriend have gotten into the home to drop the bag two stories while police were there and gotten out without anyone seeing him? 2) Denny has been proven to be a violent person. In the rape case he was charged for, he also attempted to murder the woman, but she managed to get away. This establishes a pattern. The boyfriend however, from what I could find, has only ever been charged on drug trafficking (for which he served 2 months in a correctional facility) and there have been no other instances of abuse other than in his relationship with Hannah. He was still wrong to have abused her obviously, but there's no pattern of violent behaviour outside of his relationship with Hannah. 3) In the retrial against Denny Ross, they discovered new DNA evidence that convinced the jury to come back with a guilty sentence (I don't know what this DNA evidence was, but it was obviously enough for the jury to convict him).
Denny has been shown to be willing to do anything to avoid being considered guilty (he denied several plea bargains which would have had him serving less time than he is now) so why wouldn't he come forward with the truth if the boyfriend did it and threatened him? It just doesn't add up. Please stop defending a rapist and murderer. The only thing it serves to do is harm Hannah's memory and those of her family and friends that are left who have to deal with people like you trying to make her murderer out to be innocent.
@@petalsandpinstripes9905 the whole point is if the boyfriend was framing Denny then the bag wouldn't have been dropped from inside the home, the boyfriend would have just put it in line with the window to make it look like it was dropped. Like they said in the video, the bag was untied yet nothing really had fallen out, which would suggest it wasn't dropped but was placed there. Also what do you mean 'why wouldn't he come forward with the truth if the boyfriend did it and threatened him' - I'm assuming if the boyfriend did it, this was after she left Denny's place so Denny wouldn't have known. I think the OP meant that Denny was reluctant to tell the police about sleeping with Hannah for fear of the boyfriends reaction. Also Denny's denial of a plea bargain makes him appear less guilty not more, as if he knew he did it so would be convicted anyway surely he would accept the plea deal to get a lighter sentence. I personally have no idea and I'm not trying to say Denny is innocent - he could well have done it. But your arguments to 'disprove' this theory don't hold much weight.
But wouldn’t the neighbors have said they heard ppl fighting or a commotion going on in his apartment?
You know how sometimes you don't know how you get on a string of binging certain UA-cam videos? I stumbled on yours and have watched several of them. First, I want to congratulate you on your grasp of American law and the ability you have to explain it. Well done. Second, I just have to tell you how lovely I think you are. Your makeup is always impeccable and beautifully done.
I started binge watching her channel yesterday and have gone through about 7 videos yesterday and roughly 6 already today.
I’m from Akron, Oh born and raised. I clicked on this video randomly. I was shook asf when you said this was based in Akron. I never heard of this!! I’ve heard of crazy stories in Akron. This is by far one of them.
i live a town over (or a couple towns over, cant remember, definitely nearby tho) to akron and theres SO many cases from akron on this channel... scary
I wonder if they could verify that Denny got his broken arm BEFORE the murder. Because to me thats a significant point. Getting a body down stairs and into the boot of a car with a broken arm seems difficult, not impossible (could he have just let her roll down the stairs, in which case there would be evidence of that on the stairs), but difficult. And doing all of that without leaving any forensic link is hard to believe.
But having said that, I find it even harder to believe that anyone other than him did this. ESPECIALLY after finding out he was convicted of another rape years later.
Great case Eleanor! Id never heard of this one!! xx
Good point, maybe he broke his arm while committing the murder?
Denny lied about seeing Hannah that night, he had her clothes ON his property and blood splatter on the walls (even though they said they weren't hers) and SHE called him...come on...definitely him.
David M 😂😂😂😂😂
David M even if it wasn’t hers, he still had blood on his wall
She could’ve been trying to fight him off and that’s why the blood on the wall was his
Pierce the Colby yes it was his blood
Maybe other victims blood.
binge watching eleanor is always fun
Yasss...but I'm running out of new ones I haven't seen😭
Thanks for covering this case I'm from Akron Ohio and I never seen no other true crime UA-camrs cover this case so thanks so much!! I was actually in a treatment facility with Brad oborn he did some prison time for robbing a bank but has since been clean and sober and has a really good job and I believe he is married now
you're eyeshadow is gorgeous!!! what pallette are you using?
I just became a level 1 channel member. I feel bad as I have been watching your videos for a long time now. I do not regret this purchase.
I’m thinking Hannah was cheating on her boyfriend with Denny, she leaves his house and her boyfriend is waiting for her because he followed her, he kills her, takes off her clothes and plants it at Denny’s house, to get back at both of them. Just a theory.
Ellie Woodward I was just thinking the exact same thing. It makes sense though
Ellie Woodward That’s what I thought but then why hasn’t Denny turned her boyfriend in? If Denny did not know that her boyfriend killed Hannah, at least he would have been able to suspect him. Another point this theory overlooks is the scratches and bites on Hannah’s body. If they were having consensual sex then why all the scratching and biting? These things can happen during sex but Denny knew she had a boyfriend so why would he leave those on her body since her boyfriend could see them and suspect something?
but the boyfriend was also scratched up which makes me believe maybe its was the bf who killed her after seeing her with this guy and ive been bitten scratched up during sex before im just saying their are kinks in it and the fact he wasnt scratched up but the ex was and the fact the cloths were outside and the way she was planted in the car also he has a broken arm at the time how could he long her down to the car and place her in that way also the boyfriend could have placed her that way because she cheated to show she was a "hoe" i mean their are ways to pass a lie test ive done it before it is difficult but keeping your heart rate down and you breathing evenly but also some people can get away with it but ultimately forgetting the tramatic incident it just all seems like the boyfriend murdered her knowing he was abusive beforehand but the guy raping another girl later on the thing is at the time he had a broken are there is just not a high possibility he could hold her down and rape her and strangle her to death i mean usually people use two hands to strangle someone he has one i mean unless she was physically very weak she could have broke free but what gets me is the scratch marks on the ex they should have checked her fingernails with dna yea maybe he did rape her but i dont think he was the one who killed her i think the boyfriend did in all honesty
Ellie Woodward I think that’s a possibility but maybe the boyfriend and Denny were working together because both of them have a history of being aggressive so maybe that’s a possibility
also the fact he raped another girl later on but didnt kill her is like why not like if he killed and got away with it the first time why wouldnt he kill his next victim i believe atleast the bf was apart of it i think the bf made it all happen and why did she go to this guys house particularly when she told her friends to stay away from him he is sketchy what if they were secretly seeing each other behind the bf back and he caught wind and somehow threatened the guy to set this up idk the fact he wasnt scratched up and had a broken arm just doesnt seem plausible that he could have done it alone and the bf got away clean and the fact they didnt look into the bf more even scratched up and only questioned him for a lil bit he probably has family in high circles and the other guy isnt a snitch because he was threatened or something
Please! Can you start putting what makeup you’re wearing in your description box!
Sinead Coombs I second that!
I think the boyfriend and Ross worked together - they both had aggression issues, Hannah had been physically abused in her relationship. She apparently said to Ross that he was very controlling and wouldn’t let her see her friends - so could he have followed her that night? It was said that Ross’ place had no rules and was a party house - could the boyfriend have caught them having sex? Did the two men know each other? If so, maybe they could have shared their views on women - it was said that Ross was aggressive in getting what he wanted and we know her boyfriend attacked her. If they did know each other and held these same views - could they have set Hannah up and then killed her? It would explain the boyfriends scratches and the bite mark from Ross. Maybe they wanted to humiliate her not kill her initially but then they went too far.. then the boyfriend goes to the police and could have said that Ross was the one they should be watching, and told them about the bag of clothes, and that’s why he was dropped as a suspect.. I really don’t think anyone will ever know what really happened to Hannah unfortunately, and Ross clearly played some part in her murder, but did he act alone? I’m not so sure.
Also the blood at the apartment would most likely have come from fights during parties, I don’t find that too unusual. Especially as none of it was Hannah’s blood - but if she was strangled to death like the autopsy report showed, there wouldn’t necessarily be any blood anyway
Became a detective please! You are brilliant😧
I would have thought, if they were working together, why wouldn't ross say anything about the boyfriend being involved in his defense? Especially in the retrial when he no doubt knew that he was finally going to get charged with the murder, i find it hard to believe that he would take the fall for the boyfriend? But who knows, there's always a possibility i guess
ali 19 unless the boyfriend was somehow connected to the police.. I dunno, I find it odd that the interview with him was never released by the police, and he was suddenly dropped as a suspect despite suspicious scratches on his face, if that was the case, then even if Ross did come out and say he was involved the claims would have been futile
Alaska Jade aw thank you sweetness! I could be completely wrong, just a few things that don’t seem to add up to me x
I always get turnt with the song at the end
Saaame literally my fav song hahah I remember watching one of her vids for the first time and knowing I had to subscribe because of the end
I’ve been watching all your videos lately. And holy crap your eyeshadow is amazing in this video
love your content, you're one of the few youtubers who actually makes coherent, interesting true crime videos, and also cases that aren't over-done like jonbenet ramsey, 10/10 would stan
Watch criminally listed. Different unheard cases.
omg THAT EYE LOOK THOOO
Eleanor looks an absolute treat in this video. The eyeshadow and lip colors suit her.
I am amazed you covered this story! I live the next city over and I remember all of this happening!!! The day they found her body in the trunk (boot) was such a sad day 😢 You did an amazing job covering a difficult case.👍
hell yeah u uploading a new video makes me like a 100 times happier ❣️
You look stunning, loving this hair & makeup 💄 combo! Gorgeous
I’m wondering if she slept with Denny, went back and told her boyfriend and then the boyfriend killed her and tried to frame Denny 🤔 I really don’t know 🤷🏻♀️
LydiaGrace woah-
Why would you tell your boyfriend that you cheated on him💀
@@leila458 a lot of people will do that, she didn't want to be in the relationship with her boyfriend. So in the heat of an argument she told him. Who knows but it's not really that odd for somebody to admit that.
LydiaGrace u better become and officer 👮♀️ or something cuz WOW
Hortensia maybe she wanted to break up with him and then said it out of rage to hurt him
I FLEW AS FAST AS I COULD TO THIS VIDEO I LOVE YOU !!❤
I recently discovered your channel and I love it! I love your content your accent is lovely and you’re so gorgeous!
Before I start the video - your eye look is gorgeous!!
“When you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.” In my opinion, the evidence pointed to him and all this about framing and whatnot is a stretch.
Tina Zabaglione you must be in the medical field 😁
"He sent an officer out to put a parking ticket" on the missing girl's car.
The police are always so helpful in these missing persons cases, I don't know what we would do without them.
I couldn't imagine being a parent and having my daughter's case being pushed aside for a whole week and then when you finally have hope of justice, a biased jury causes him to leave with no charge. My heart truly goes out to the family.
Her eyes 😍 I want that eyeshadow look! Please do a tutorial x
You should definitely make a podcast if you haven’t! Your videos are intriguing and I like listening whenever I’m doing hm!
The random splatters of blood ALL around Denny's apartment that didn't match up? My best guess is heroin users. When Hannah's friend Jennifer said "you could do ANYTHING at Denny's house. Anything." And the fact that denny was caught dealing coke. It doesnt mean denny himself or Hannah herself was an intraveinous user but it's very possible he had friends that did. Heroin users sometimes after getting blood into their syringe will squirt it out, leaving a splatter effect. Steve-o has a great story on that.
Also explains the feces in the underwear. If she was a fairly new user... Stuff messes up the guts.
Can you PLEASE do a makeup tutorial?😍 I’m sure a lot of us would appreciate it cause your makeup is always beautiful💕
this is the first video I have watched of yours and I literally go to school in Akron, OH so my eyes got huge when you said that lmfao
Will you please do the case from St Louis Missouri on Joseph Marcus Lee? We called him Jojo he was one of my best friends who got shot in the middle of the night. The details are so disturbing and he was killed by a car full of high school kids from Kirkwood. The man who murdered him is on bail last I heard. If you have any questions you can message me I am in direct contact with his mother and the mother of his son who was actually not even born until after Jojo died. It is so heartbreaking and nobody really knows about him. It happened august 2017.
I know exactly how it feels... my ex boyfriend murdered my bestfriend with his brother over 20 dollars......
Please do cases from Ireland or even one because it’s where I’m from Love you so much 😍❤️🇮🇪
She done one on the scissor sisters