You will if you are using an Inner Sphere XL. Clan XL can survive losing one side torso, with a massive penalty to heat scale instead of dying. You will die if you lose both ST's,
@@Devastish Ah, I didn't know that. I've only played Battletech and don't have any other direct experience with the franchise. I ran into Baradul's videos more or less on accident and enjoy his content. Thanks for the response.
Thanks for the reply Baradul - that is likely the issue, though I always used to wonder why adding armor in armor skills never really showed up in the mech lab armor distribution... perhaps I just missed that it gets added (without us getting extra points to add in lab) Again, thanks for reply
Back when I was still playing I was often surprised when spectating to see that people don't understand that when you're a heavy or assault alone against a light you should walk backwards to minimise the time the light has to shoot you in the back. At 10:00 you can see Baradul do it and it's very effective.
I actually like the free one, it’s my PPC sniper rn, running x2 PPCs, an ER large, and LRM20. Runs icy cold, and runs at 78 kph with good armour. Not bad.
Silly Random question, why is it that when I watch videos of clan mechs on UA-cam the laser and ballistic sounds different compare to in game? Is there a different sound option in game that I’m not aware of?
I got the Bludgeon and though I haven't played a match with it, some testing in the testing grounds had me liking the following build XL380 2 LPL 3 MPL 15 external HDD 1JJ and an Active Probe or remove them and add a Targeting computer LAMS Full cool run, max armour and survivability nodes, 1 consumable slot, 60% radar deprivation and the remainder for 4 laser nodes and as many cooldown and heat gen nodes that you can get. It runs very cold and can spam alpha strikes quite a lot. It feels nice. I might try a ATM12 and 4 HML and see if it's workable.
The Early Adopter (the A model) is quite good, too. Double Gauss for the arms rather than torso, for a bit more durability. Or dual LB20X plus triple srms, for the "Scorch" look. The poor agility does hold the Warhammer IIC's back quite a bit, though.
I am using same weapon setup on the WHM and I love it. Can't wait to test this on the WHM 2C tonight. Thanks for the build and the video and keep our doses comming.
I have basically this build on a King Crab and it's very effective but this version definitely seems superior because of the higher weapon mounts. Good video.
Nice build Baradul, I like what you did here. I laugh every time I see the thumbnail of your Warhawk Nanuq "Warpig" LOL!! Well done there, very funny camo.
Wish PGI would added some variety to the game by having more diverse drop in pts, especially for skirmish mode when there is no objective to fight over.
lol Bara i wasnt afraid i set up an anbush in case they go for our Direwolf, but you made short buisness with them long before they had the chance. Also i should have known you are recording, next time i gonna choose my words more family friendly
Well while the Maul is probably the best of the bunch I can't agree that the Warhammer IIC in general is a good mech. This thing came pre-nerfed from the factor with abysmal mobility and agility. Its torso twist is too slow to shield effectively and the 75 degree range of motion means you can't even twist enough to completely shield the CT and ST. It can't turn worth a damn and its accell and decell are so bad that buy the time you peek, stop and reverse back into cover, your generally cored out. The hardpoints are badly located as well being mostly in the waist unless it is missiles so you have to expose your entire torso to fire. If PGI hadn't pre-nerfed it was such poor agility it could be decent but as it, the Warhammer IIC is meh at best., whatever the variant.
This's is a great build. A perfect heavy build for you. You basically killed every Mech you faced. You coulda had more kills and damage if your teammates didn't steamroll everyone.
First impressions on this mech for me is a hard pass. I only have the Bludgeon, which admittedly is really weak, but I feel like its CT is just massive and the damage doesn't spread well. I'm usually cored out instantly, whereas an IS Warhammer would have spread the damage around and survived to the end. It's also hard point starved. 5 energy and 1 missile on an assault? what am I supposed to do with that? Boating large lasers doesn't work because of ghost heat. The only thing I can think of is quad ppc, which practically every clan mech over 65 tons can do. The lack of useful quirks doesn't help either. I haven't tried the JJ's, but I feel like a jumping assault is just a gimmick. At best, this is a dedicated second line mech that cannot serve any specialized role well or be a jack-of-all trades. It might as well be a target dummy.
Honestly game provides not that much builds variety :( Had almost the same build on night-gyr, even hardpoint locations and speed are almost the same. They need to add more weapons and other gameplay elements, new mechs rarely add up anything new in the game at this point
Sometimes a video will get released by youtube before it has finished fully encoding all the resolutions as in this case where I received it on my notifications after it had finished the 360p encoding only.
Thanks for making all the noobs run this shitty build, I really enjoy farming these as they can't bring any firepower to trade with anything other than lights! People are already starting to run this build and I've been having a blast farming them.
Yeah don’t know why they’d run this when you can do it on a cbill night gyr. 2 lb10s, 2 srm6, and 4 hml is much better. Or you can run double lb20 with 4 mpl
So salty about how the hero's hardpoints compared to all other variants -.- EDIT: Bludgeon especially... if mobility was better sure, but come on... this will be tough mech to love... I say fk the ML hero, btch has p2w all over it compared to other variants and BL.
-BL is incredibly hardpoint starved. A single Missile hardpoint? What good is that? You shouldn't put LRMs on an assault, a single SRM6 is a waste. Pretty much only good for a large ATM maybe? But even then a single AMS nearby is going to cripple the damage that hardpoint is doing. If it was quirked for PPC heat gen the quad PPC build might work... but I have not seen a single inspiring build for the -BL. But hey, with all that tonnage you are saving from weapons you can slap a massive engine in it at least... :/
I'll try doing maybe atm12+4hml or 3erml+2lpl+lrm20 or something... really have no clue... Most of WarhammerIIC variants require major quirkage to make their loadouts comparable to other mechs. And the mobility.... WHY!?
I wouldn't say that the Maul isn't a strong hero but the other variants are pretty good, too imho. The Laserboats are pretty viable. I've seen quite a few top damage scores. The A- variant has a very good brawler build (2LB20 3srm6+A), the 4 variant seems to be an excellent lrm/ATM boat. I mean true, the Bludgeon kind of falls behind them. Quad PPC or ATM12 2LPL 3EML are the builds basically. Maybe 4LPL 1EML, but the IIC will do a better job for sure. It is a business after all... Side node: Velocity is possibly the most underrated quirk in the game by the player base. I have seen very good players strapping big TCs on their AC2 builds to get that sort of skill. Especially when your aim gets better, it lets you pick out components much easier. For my part i loved to see that quirk on the Clan Whammies.
Almost all the MWO players have access to one variant, the BL, but you inform us about the least accessible, at least for those who does not willing to pay the price of an AAA videogame title for each new mech... Why?
Because it's his will which mech variant he'll play? And maybe Baradul wanted to show something for those players that were willing to support PGI and got the other hero variant? Btw, you know you don't have to pay for the mech, just be patient and wait once it goes avaiable for c-bills. You can easily get enough MC's for new mechbays from in-game events in the meantime. Well now, unless you just HAVE to get every new mech as soon as it goes live - then buy it, don't complain about it not being avaiable to everyone immediately.
@@Norion84 Wow, this is a real answer, if a bit rigorous one. To start with the roughness, I support PGI sometimes, mostly by buying some MC, but I am from a region where the price of an only for cash new hero mech pack equals roughly 1/20 of the average monthly income of an adult working class person. I bet you don't care, but from my perspective, a 35 bucks pack is a bit disproportional, when I can buy a whole new game on steam for a comparable amount of money. This is the reason behind my question: form this vid I can't learn about the mech I just got, only that the mech I can't afford is soooo good. And please don't say I will be able to get exactly this mech for cbills one day. You know as well as I know that PGI will nerf the mech to the ground - or more precisely below the ground - before the cbill release.
If you dont know how to handle a mech no amount of money you spend on mwo will help you win, if this were pay to win the $500 gold mechs would dominate but they dont and most of the hero mechs are weaker compared to the free variants of the same chassis. Its l2p rather than p2w.
What a beautiful mech
Those 32 unopened supply caches... so many lrm5 waiting to be won
At least you can sell them afterwards.
Lol yeah I wish mwo was more rewarding and the store wasn't so pricey
In the past month I won 800MC in 2 crates... Maybe because I bought MW5...
@@BrokenCurtain it's not even worth spending a key to open them.
@@tonystolz4982 Good thing Keys went away, then!
the IS Warhammer is a very good mech, now with Clan Tech its probably ridiculously strong.
I thought you died if you lost a side torso while running XL engine. Love your videos Bara.
You will if you are using an Inner Sphere XL. Clan XL can survive losing one side torso, with a massive penalty to heat scale instead of dying. You will die if you lose both ST's,
@@Devastish Ah, I didn't know that. I've only played Battletech and don't have any other direct experience with the franchise. I ran into Baradul's videos more or less on accident and enjoy his content. Thanks for the response.
Commenting to support.
Thanks for the reply Baradul - that is likely the issue, though I always used to wonder why adding armor in armor skills never really showed up in the mech lab armor distribution... perhaps I just missed that it gets added (without us getting extra points to add in lab) Again, thanks for reply
Back when I was still playing I was often surprised when spectating to see that people don't understand that when you're a heavy or assault alone against a light you should walk backwards to minimise the time the light has to shoot you in the back.
At 10:00 you can see Baradul do it and it's very effective.
Don't be a boob, read the scrawling txt on your HUD to confirm who got the kill.
do one on the free one as well please!
The free one is a dumpster fire that wishes it was a warhawk. I'm mad I was even excited about it.
best thing i could do was 2 large pulses and ermeds.. but then a hellbringer does it better with ECM.. maybe pop tart with erppc could work,,
The free one is horrible imo, not enough hardpoints, no variation on what you can do with it.
I actually like the free one, it’s my PPC sniper rn, running x2 PPCs, an ER large, and LRM20. Runs icy cold, and runs at 78 kph with good armour. Not bad.
Same, So far mine has ATM 12, 4 Heavy Mediums, and a Large Laser and a boat load of heat sinks.
Beautiful thumbnail. Warhammer such a badass looking mech!
Wow whole lance of Warhammer IIC
Great video, as always sir!
Any chance you could show us a build for the Bludgeon soon? :D
Silly Random question, why is it that when I watch videos of clan mechs on UA-cam the laser and ballistic sounds different compare to in game? Is there a different sound option in game that I’m not aware of?
Its a really good sound mod thats linked in the video description all you need to do is download and dump it into a folder and off you go
@@lordvanazir1007 thank you so much!
I got the Bludgeon and though I haven't played a match with it, some testing in the testing grounds had me liking the following build
XL380
2 LPL
3 MPL
15 external HDD
1JJ and an Active Probe or remove them and add a Targeting computer
LAMS
Full cool run, max armour and survivability nodes, 1 consumable slot, 60% radar deprivation and the remainder for 4 laser nodes and as many cooldown and heat gen nodes that you can get.
It runs very cold and can spam alpha strikes quite a lot. It feels nice. I might try a ATM12 and 4 HML and see if it's workable.
Baradul gets hard on a Warhammer! Who knew?!?!?
That was the Ice ferret build in the last video.
Cant get this anymore?
The Early Adopter (the A model) is quite good, too. Double Gauss for the arms rather than torso, for a bit more durability. Or dual LB20X plus triple srms, for the "Scorch" look. The poor agility does hold the Warhammer IIC's back quite a bit, though.
Jesus, this IIC has torso hardpoints for days. o..O
I am using same weapon setup on the WHM and I love it. Can't wait to test this on the WHM 2C tonight. Thanks for the build and the video and keep our doses comming.
IS WHM probably does it better.
@@gfarrell80 actually maybe yes. but I like also the dual AC10 setup with the 4mpls
WHM-2C-BL w/ 5 MPL, ATM 12 and XL 385 . Show me how to successfully run this when you get time.
Thanks
that loadout is brutal on the clan mechs that can support it.
I have basically this build on a King Crab and it's very effective but this version definitely seems superior because of the higher weapon mounts. Good video.
Nice build Baradul, I like what you did here. I laugh every time I see the thumbnail of your Warhawk Nanuq "Warpig" LOL!! Well done there, very funny camo.
matbe a stupid question - but not obvious.. How come your MAUL has 75 max armor in torsos and legs, and mine is only 69 max?? what am i missing?
armor skills?
How do u set chain fire for other than number 1?
Use CTRL + arrow keys to navigate then backspace for chainfire.
I forget how MWO is probably one of the chillest shooters.
I know it can get pretty crazy, but still, it's pretty easy to follow
The Hero variant is better than the others? And costs real money?
Who'd have thought it?? 🤔
I actually made the same build. At first i tried to fit in srms because of the cooldown perk but it wasn't worth it.
Wish PGI would added some variety to the game by having more diverse drop in pts, especially for skirmish mode when there is no objective to fight over.
lol Bara i wasnt afraid i set up an anbush in case they go for our Direwolf, but you made short buisness with them long before they had the chance.
Also i should have known you are recording, next time i gonna choose my words more family friendly
What’s up with 360p?
ah damn, youtube didn't process yet. Just wait a couple of minutes
Well while the Maul is probably the best of the bunch I can't agree that the Warhammer IIC in general is a good mech. This thing came pre-nerfed from the factor with abysmal mobility and agility. Its torso twist is too slow to shield effectively and the 75 degree range of motion means you can't even twist enough to completely shield the CT and ST. It can't turn worth a damn and its accell and decell are so bad that buy the time you peek, stop and reverse back into cover, your generally cored out. The hardpoints are badly located as well being mostly in the waist unless it is missiles so you have to expose your entire torso to fire. If PGI hadn't pre-nerfed it was such poor agility it could be decent but as it, the Warhammer IIC is meh at best., whatever the variant.
Also please do a Bludgeon build
This's is a great build. A perfect heavy build for you. You basically killed every Mech you faced. You coulda had more kills and damage if your teammates didn't steamroll everyone.
First impressions on this mech for me is a hard pass. I only have the Bludgeon, which admittedly is really weak, but I feel like its CT is just massive and the damage doesn't spread well. I'm usually cored out instantly, whereas an IS Warhammer would have spread the damage around and survived to the end.
It's also hard point starved. 5 energy and 1 missile on an assault? what am I supposed to do with that? Boating large lasers doesn't work because of ghost heat. The only thing I can think of is quad ppc, which practically every clan mech over 65 tons can do.
The lack of useful quirks doesn't help either.
I haven't tried the JJ's, but I feel like a jumping assault is just a gimmick.
At best, this is a dedicated second line mech that cannot serve any specialized role well or be a jack-of-all trades. It might as well be a target dummy.
Honestly game provides not that much builds variety :( Had almost the same build on night-gyr, even hardpoint locations and speed are almost the same. They need to add more weapons and other gameplay elements, new mechs rarely add up anything new in the game at this point
360P?
Sometimes a video will get released by youtube before it has finished fully encoding all the resolutions as in this case where I received it on my notifications after it had finished the 360p encoding only.
Not surprising the hero is one of if not the worst variant
Thanks for making all the noobs run this shitty build, I really enjoy farming these as they can't bring any firepower to trade with anything other than lights! People are already starting to run this build and I've been having a blast farming them.
Yeah don’t know why they’d run this when you can do it on a cbill night gyr. 2 lb10s, 2 srm6, and 4 hml is much better. Or you can run double lb20 with 4 mpl
Can run this build much better on MCII-1 and DS. Kittens basically handle every build extraordinarily well.
@@depthcharge126 Because the Night Gyr is an ugly mech.
Yeah, night gyr is a similar weight, but has terrible mobility, at least the whm can push a bigger engine, jury still out on hit boxes too.
Madcat is a freak, not many mechs compare well to it.
Damn bro, do you even lift? That thing looks f'king jacked!
So salty about how the hero's hardpoints compared to all other variants -.-
EDIT: Bludgeon especially... if mobility was better sure, but come on... this will be tough mech to love... I say fk the ML hero, btch has p2w all over it compared to other variants and BL.
Me too, I'm actually angry about this.
-BL is incredibly hardpoint starved. A single Missile hardpoint? What good is that? You shouldn't put LRMs on an assault, a single SRM6 is a waste. Pretty much only good for a large ATM maybe? But even then a single AMS nearby is going to cripple the damage that hardpoint is doing. If it was quirked for PPC heat gen the quad PPC build might work... but I have not seen a single inspiring build for the -BL. But hey, with all that tonnage you are saving from weapons you can slap a massive engine in it at least... :/
They gave it some really lousy quirks too. PPC velocity is a mediocre choice. I think the people working on this game right now have never played it.
I'll try doing maybe atm12+4hml or 3erml+2lpl+lrm20 or something... really have no clue...
Most of WarhammerIIC variants require major quirkage to make their loadouts comparable to other mechs. And the mobility.... WHY!?
I wouldn't say that the Maul isn't a strong hero but the other variants are pretty good, too imho. The Laserboats are pretty viable. I've seen quite a few top damage scores. The A- variant has a very good brawler build (2LB20 3srm6+A), the 4 variant seems to be an excellent lrm/ATM boat.
I mean true, the Bludgeon kind of falls behind them. Quad PPC or ATM12 2LPL 3EML are the builds basically. Maybe 4LPL 1EML, but the IIC will do a better job for sure. It is a business after all...
Side node: Velocity is possibly the most underrated quirk in the game by the player base. I have seen very good players strapping big TCs on their AC2 builds to get that sort of skill. Especially when your aim gets better, it lets you pick out components much easier. For my part i loved to see that quirk on the Clan Whammies.
Almost all the MWO players have access to one variant, the BL, but you inform us about the least accessible, at least for those who does not willing to pay the price of an AAA videogame title for each new mech... Why?
Because it's his will which mech variant he'll play? And maybe Baradul wanted to show something for those players that were willing to support PGI and got the other hero variant? Btw, you know you don't have to pay for the mech, just be patient and wait once it goes avaiable for c-bills. You can easily get enough MC's for new mechbays from in-game events in the meantime. Well now, unless you just HAVE to get every new mech as soon as it goes live - then buy it, don't complain about it not being avaiable to everyone immediately.
@@Norion84 Wow, this is a real answer, if a bit rigorous one. To start with the roughness, I support PGI sometimes, mostly by buying some MC, but I am from a region where the price of an only for cash new hero mech pack equals roughly 1/20 of the average monthly income of an adult working class person. I bet you don't care, but from my perspective, a 35 bucks pack is a bit disproportional, when I can buy a whole new game on steam for a comparable amount of money. This is the reason behind my question: form this vid I can't learn about the mech I just got, only that the mech I can't afford is soooo good. And please don't say I will be able to get exactly this mech for cbills one day. You know as well as I know that PGI will nerf the mech to the ground - or more precisely below the ground - before the cbill release.
This is the first of a Warhammer IIC build series. Don'T worry. I will cover the other variants as well.
@@Baradul Thanks, sir.
First!
p2w
If you dont know how to handle a mech no amount of money you spend on mwo will help you win, if this were pay to win the $500 gold mechs would dominate but they dont and most of the hero mechs are weaker compared to the free variants of the same chassis. Its l2p rather than p2w.
@@H4WK6969 It's definitely on the p2w scale.
It's not as bad as similar games (War Thunder), but the p2w still exists.