What Happens Next For Karina?
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- What Happens Next For Karina?
Remember how Dispatch said they would reveal the dating between a TOP gen 4 female idol and an actor just to end up talking about Lee Naeun seemingly dating soccer player Lee Kang In, which she herself also quickly denied?
Do you see how weird the case is? One, Lee Naeun isn’t the top gen 4 idol, though she is famous, and Lee Kang In is a soccer player, not an actor . Not to mention this is also one of the rarest times Dispatch’s news about dating being denied.
Now, with Karina’s dating news broke out, the dots are connected and the future seems to not be so bright for Karina at all.
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00:00 Intro
00:41 Karina Should Be Worried About Her Career
03:59 The dating leak could negatively affect Karina's career
06:07 Is this dating another marketing tactic?
07:04 Will they end up like Jennie and Kai?
08:35 Aespa's fandom reacts quite positively to Karina's dating news
09:05 Outro
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There is nothing wrong with being an idol and dating. I strongly support Karina and her boyfriend's relationship. They are human and deserve to be happy.
But there is a big BUT in it...
It's not about idols being human or idols being able to fall in love or idols having the right to be happy, it's about the future of the group in Karina's hands. Since she is the center of Aespa then she is Aespa itself, so if she is involved in a scandal like this then the name of Aespa is at stake. You can see the future of 3 people there, in Karina's hands.
I'm not defending anyone or blaming anyone, I'm putting myself in the middle between the idol's and the fans' point of view.
But the only thing I get is a big BUT there and it all leads to the other Aespa members. Even if this is just the media and SM's plan, there's still a big BUT.
Because Kpop it's NOT only about music anymore...
People who have known Kpop for a long time know this...
Sorry if this sounds harsh, but the fans that people call crazy, weird, need to get a life, and people say that they should touch the grass...
Believe it or not, they are a big part of Aespa's strength.
Because without fans who are completely crazy about idols, willing to do anything to support idols, idols will not be able to survive. Unless the group is already as big as BP.
If you think what I'm saying is wrong, think about one thing...
No one in their right mind would spend millions of dollars on a stranger.
Bro, I won't do that 😂
If I say I'll buy their albums to show my support, I'll only buy one or two, not as many as those fans.
If they're losing a lot of fans who are willing to throw away a lot of money for a lot piece of cd that they won't even use all, or a small piece of paper with a picture of a stranger's face, I'm sorry to say, that's a big mistake, bro 😭
But that's if she still wants to be an idol, if she wants to be like the pinned comment said, then go ahead.
She doesn't need crazy fans to support her doing that but she'll probably be surrounded by poor fans who probably don't spend as much money as me... with little popularity... and little work.
Life is hard but we are also always given choices. So...
But I really hope there are still many fans who are crazy about her no matter what happens lol
(I read one of the replies in the pinned comment and I couldn't stop thinking about it...
Like... I did think about that before but her/his words really slapped me. Idk why...)
You're touching on a complex aspect of K-pop culture that's both intricate and polarizing. The intertwining of personal lives with professional identities in the idol industry is indeed a double-edged sword. On one hand, idols like Karina deserve happiness and personal freedom. On the other, their actions inevitably ripple through the group's future and fandom dynamics.
Your point about the significance of fan support in K-pop cannot be overstated. Fans' enthusiasm, often seen as over-the-top, is indeed a cornerstone of a group's success. The dedication and financial support of these fans are unparalleled, contributing significantly to the idols' careers and the industry's economy.
However, it's also crucial to evolve our understanding of idol-fan relationships. While financial support is vital, so is the emotional and moral support that respects idols' personal lives and decisions. This doesn't mean fans' feelings are invalid but highlights the need for a balance where idols can thrive professionally without sacrificing their personal happiness.
Karina's situation opens up a broader dialogue about these dynamics and the future of K-pop. It's a reminder that as the industry grows, so too should our empathy and understanding towards the individuals who bring so much joy through their art.
As fans, supporting idols in their professional endeavors while respecting their personal choices is a form of love that can help sustain their careers in a healthier way. It's a challenging path to navigate, but one that could lead to a more sustainable and fulfilling relationship between idols and their fans. It's all about finding that balance and moving forward with compassion and understanding.
@@BeBossTV Yeah, I also think after this Karina scandal, people might start to open their eyes about K-Pop, especially teenagers who have just become fans.
I like that you don't judge those fans, because what I feel towards them is actually just sad, like what I feel towards Karina. And I hope people won't judge them too harshly.
Because this is not about individuals but about "K-Pop" itself. In situations like this, people can't just see it from one side, and it's wrong if people say that disappointed and sad fans.. are crazy, insane, and delusional. Judging them like they forgot that their idol is also human. But I hope people also don't forget that those fans are human too.
Maybe some of them are excessive, but those are their feelings. It's real, they're hurt, they're disappointed, and they're allowed to feel that, it's normal. Because they're human, and not because they forgot that their idol is also just a regular human. (Btw this is only for toxic fans because things like this happen, not for fans who are toxic all the time hating/insulting anyone and anything other than their favorite idol. Ngl, I also don't know what kind of creatures they are 😭)
If we look closely and understand 'K-Pop', we'll see that the mental health of idols and fans is both at stake. Most K-Pop fandoms are not just toxic about things like this but about small, nonsensical things.
I'm thinking about all your words and not hoping for anything other than good things. But big hopes like no toxic fans, or supporting each other healthily, understanding each other's feelings and mental state, treating each other like regular humans, those things in K-Pop for me are like hoping to get rich just by sleeping 🥹
Unless the K-Pop industry has to erase all the history they've created or has to stop making fanservice its culture. Like... Seriously, if they want fans to stop crossing boundaries or understand, agencies and idols themselves also shouldn't forget that the fans they'll attract with the fanservice they'll use are also humans. Who have different ways of thinking, different hearts, and different mental states. Especially if those fans are still underage.
K-Pop is growing and known in various countries, yes, K-Pop is growing but the way they attract fans hasn't changed at all. But if there are fans like this, everyone will blame them. People are wrong if that happens and only blame fans because they exist also because they were created by K-Pop itself.
@@BeBossTV K-Pop itself creates and embeds toxicity in people's minds without them realizing it through fanservice that doesn't even feel like fanservice. Like double standards, aesthetic slavery, objectification, gender stereotypes, shippers culture, and the worst of all is involving LGBTQ+ representation that is too forced. I really hate it but what I feel is never listened to even though I've said it many times.
Fanservice pretending or portraying themselves as gay on stage or in front of the camera is very insulting, demeaning, and harmful to the LGBTQ+ community. They use it only for their fans' misguided fantasies. But even gay people in this world still experience discrimination and are insulted to the point of absurdity.
LGBTQ+ is not something trivial and easy to attract fans or profit. It's also not something that can be used just to make fans go crazy, or to please the disgusting fantasies of K-Pop fans. Idols who do that and the fans who are "pleased" by it, even their opinions on LGBTQ+ should still be questioned.
Because here in my country, many K-Pop fans really hate gay people. Look at how ironic that is. They're so excited and enthusiastic when they see two idols of the same gender looking like romantic partners, but they hate it so much, calling it, mentally ill, needing God's help, sinful future inhabitants of the deepest hell, or even openly disgusted when they see it in people around them.
And of course, if someone like me gets angry about this, I'll be the one who gets insulted and cursed at by their fans.
K-Pop hypocrisy has spread to almost all K-Pop fans and they still don't realize it. And it's really sad.
So like I said, if the K-Pop world wants to change, then K-Pop itself has to change it, not questioning the humanity of fans. The victims here are not only idols who are forced to do all that and all fans who are consumed by it.
But I heard all idols know about shippers and some of them do it intentionally just to "please their fans." So, yeah idk anymore. I just wish, yes this is a wish... I wish people could see it from between the idol and fans.. just like me. You know... Not defending idols and not defending fans or not blaming both sides.
Because it seems that only in that way, everyone can collectively ask all K-Pop agencies to change their ways because even without using LGBTQ+ in it, their fanservice is already very toxic for idols and fans.
@@nyanpasu290 THIS !!!! OH MY GOD, FINALLY!
CAN PEOPLE SEE THE WAY ME AND THIS PERSON SEE?
THIS IS WHY I STOPPED LIKING KPOP BECAUSE EVERYTHING IN IT IS UNHEALTHY.
THE IDOLS AND FANS NEED HELP AND PEOPLE CAN'T SEE IT 😭
YOU are the pinned comment! Do you remember what it said that slapped you?
why do these fans honestly act as if they have ownership over the idol or get so emotionally attached ? end of the day shes a idol and we are fans there is no relationship beyond that. people really need a reality check
Right? It's baffling how some fans feel a sense of ownership over idols. At the end of the day, there's a clear line between being a fan and the personal lives of idols. We're here to support their careers, not control their personal choices. A reality check is definitely needed for some.
@@BeBossTV frrr
its just kpop industry in general
@@doobysnatcher5715it’s all South Korea too. Actors and athletes get the same stink.
The idol industry and its fandoms need to change and to change FAST. My God, let the idols be happy in their personal lives - they're giving their all for their job and to keep fans happy. Let them be happy too.
The entire industry presented itself that way from very start
They targeted kids and teenagers with good looks obtained by surgery and made them delu
Hope this stupid system ends soon
The problem is that SM's stock is falling and AESPA's core fans account for a large portion of the group's sales. If those obsessive fans leave, sales will drop significantly. Then, investment within SM will also decrease. After all, popular singers need to be loved by the public, but in K-pop, the power of core fans is too great. The proportion of sales is too large. It's so amazing that it even rocked the Billboard charts. Unfortunately, I can't abandon these obsessive fans. The marketing was wrong from the beginning. Many groups have this problem. Drop them and you'll lose sales and lose power on the charts. This is because the artist's capabilities failed to captivate the public in the first place. It's really unrealistic to hope that fans' perception will change. Since the structure is to make money from these obsessive core fans, idols have no choice but to cater to their wishes.
There is no way there are fans who allow idols to date and buy them hundreds of albums. They think idols belong to their fans. So spend money like that.
you can be a core fan and like an artist who isn't single @@skyshin39
You don't know about KPOP really and how it works. Dating is not wrong but some fans invest money on them to be famous. If those fans are not their to invest to them, it means no fame for the group.
Couldn't agree more! The idol industry and its fandom culture indeed need a shift towards valuing idols' happiness in their personal lives as much as their professional achievements. They pour so much into their art and fans; it's only fair they get to enjoy life off stage too.
I might buy a copy of aespa’s new album now to support them❤
10 is better 😊
@@nenelu357 sadly I’m a student in the UK so I can’t afford to 😂 or I totally would 💖
and pink friday 2 while ur at it
@@capris4bbabsolutely not 😂
That sounds like a great idea!
Supporting aespa by grabbing their new album not only shows love for their music but also solidarity with them through everything. Plus, their tracks are always fire, so it’s a win-win. 🎶
I hope they never break up i want karina to be happy she don't owe us fans anything 😭
They will
@@vim2339 why are u saying this u're so toxic keep dreaming they won't ever break up
@@karinamywife-xd3xv you are delusional, this is not kdrama.
i wish that they don't breakup but i do think they will because of how much hate they are getting just for dating and loving another human , they might as well just breakup in the public eye but still keep a secret relationship tho
These relationships are hard to maintain. First, you get the media pressure. Poor girl has to put out an apology for dating. Then it's the conflicts of schedules. Karina is a performer and he is an actor. We all know how busy life can be for those working in the entertainment industry. It's going to be hard to see and spend time with each other. Their schedule might not allow them. I wouldn't be surprised if they break up within 6 months. Sorry to say, such relationships don't go the distance. But let's wish them the best and if it's meant to be, only time will tell.
Idol's could be doing WAY worse. I hate how some "fans" tend to dehumanize them when there speculated for dating which isn't a problem. These idol's are not props or product's, there humans and seeing how some of them treat them like they own them is weird.
Absolutely, it's wild how some 'fans' forget idols are human too, not just props. They deserve normal lives and privacy. Treating them like they're owned is just not right. Let's remember to respect their humanity.
There’s a thin line between a persons profession and their personal lives .. people need to learn to respect that boundary.. what she does with her personal life is no one’s business, she’s an adult dating an adult! What is wrong with this generation? they feel like they are entitled to everyone’s life, where do we go from here people!!
I hate dispatch for this
They are the reason for idols having depression
You're spot on. The distinction between an idol's professional life and personal life is crucial, yet often overlooked. Everyone, including idols, deserves the right to privacy and personal happiness without facing undue scrutiny or judgment. It's troubling to see the sense of entitlement some feel over others' personal affairs. Moving forward, it’s about fostering a culture of respect and understanding. As for Dispatch, their role in blurring these lines certainly adds to the frustration. It's a conversation about privacy and respect that's long overdue.
Fans also realised Karina is a human too isn't wrong she is dating..? Idols are also human too .. seeing 30 old female idols are not married 😢. Is hard for raised child above 30 old tough so please she has life to live
is forbidden for idols to date, specially idols as young as Karina.
@@kyo_k9354 she is not a toy
@@kyo_k9354 are you delululu fan thinking getting marry to her grow up. Why you can support them if she/he bf and gf . Don't be toxic
Who's say Karina isn't human? Her toxic fans? Or who?
Sorry, I usually don't like to write comments or reply to someone's comments but after reading your comment I thought of a lot of things lol
Especially from your statement saying, many idols at 30 are unmarried or difficult to raise children over 30?
You make it sound like K-Pop fans are the ones causing such serious problems 😂
I wonder, are they that powerful to regulate the whole country? Since South Korea has the lowest birth and marriage rates, also high suicide rates.
You mentioned a very specific and personal age like at that age all women should be married and have children.
Well, if that's what they want and it's their choice no one can stop them.
Wouldn't it be better if all idols dated, got married and soon had as many children as possible to save the country from extinction?
I remind you that all idols are free to do anything in their lives, no one has the right to forbid it or can stop it. Even if it's crazy/toxic/fanatical fans, they are not that powerful.
All human beings including idols/celebrities are the biggest power holders in their own lives, including choosing which path they want to take.
Even the first second when they choose to become a K-Pop idol, and I think they all already know the good and bad sides of the industry.
So why is Karina apologizing for living her life? Let's try to stop blaming those toxic fans for a minute.
Don't you see it? The ones who support her as a human being, who support her happiness, are so many? Her supporters are so numerous, they almost overshadow the hatred.
But why did she still write that apology letter?
Forced by the agency? Maybe.
But why do people keep blaming the fans?
Most of them are just products of the obsessive K-Pop culture.
Why not just choose to ignore them? Honestly, she can really do it.
But I won't lie without such fans, idols' popularity and income probably wouldn't be as big as it is now. But isn't it worth it if she really wants to pursue her happiness in life?
So, who's really depending on whom here?
@@AlltheprettyStarsshinesforyoui mean who hates her dating. That's why I said it
Karina come solo song like a jennie😂😂😂😂
can’t they just let them live 😭😭
Hate to say it, but I think it’s likely they’ll break up. Jaewook might choose marriage over his career, but I doubt it’s the same for Karina (considering how she already apologized for it). In general, fans tend to accept actors dating more than idols dating.
It's a tough situation, for sure. The different standards fans have for actors versus idols do add an extra layer of complexity. And you're right, the dynamics in their careers and public reactions might influence their decisions differently. Let's just hope for the best for both of them, regardless of the outcome.
Problem for Karina is that despite her (big!) talent, she is first and foremost popular because of her visuals. This is top visuals' curse, and it will never change. So, when your fans think they are in love with you primarly because they dream of you, it is not smart at all to be dating in the open... I really like Karina, because you can tell she is so sweet, but that was a big mistake
I see where you’re coming from, but I think it’s essential to recognize that an idol’s worth extends far beyond their visuals, even if that’s a significant factor in their popularity. Everyone deserves the freedom to pursue personal happiness, regardless of their job. While it’s true that some fans might have idealized views, at the end of the day, real support means wanting happiness for the idols we admire, including Karina. It’s about time the industry and its fans evolve to respect and support idols' personal lives as much as their professional ones.
@@BeBossTV I don't agree. JiMin can do whatever she wants. Not Karina. Karina is a product, on which SM invested a lot. She has responsabilities to her members, to SM and to her fans, expecially those hardcore fans who spend a lot of money on goodies and stufff. These are Karina "clients" and she owes them, because she can live her dreams thanks to them. If they want her to stay inaccessible and single and "belonging" to them, she has to abide. It is her JOB. Now, in her personal life she can do whatever she wants, but she has to hide. It is simple. Other Idols do it: does anyone believe someone like 33yrs old Original Visual is single for a decade? Of course not, but Irene is smart. It is part of the job, Karina has to accept it.
I hope this doesn’t make her go on hiatus
Unfortunately, the K-pop industry makes a lot of its money from its obsessive core fans. Core fans account for a large portion of sales. Of course, there are groups like BTS or Blackpink that have achieved great success in both the public and fandom, but their number is very small. BTS was not free from this problem either.
AESPA also disappeared from public attention after the next level. The chart performance was not good. There has been an increased reliance on obsessive core fans. These are people who are devoted to their idols and buy hundreds of albums. It is too unrealistic to hope that such people will change their perception. They want the idol to be theirs. That's why you spend so much money. If idols want to be free from these obsessive fans, they must captivate the public with their musicality. A representative success story is IU. He is a singer who catches two birds with one stone: fandom and the public. AESPA is not at that level yet. In the end, you can't be free from your core fans. Because profits decrease. This is why SM stock prices fell significantly. It will be difficult for companies to make large investments in AESPA anymore. It is an unprofitable product.
Something went wrong at the marketing stage. The K-pop industry wants the love of the fandom more than the love of the public. The company considers communication and relationships with fans more important than the idol's musical ability. I feel this way from the planning stage. Most of the time, idols are grouped together and produced. It’s not enough to show the musical aspects of each idol. It's easy to show the chemistry between singers. Appearance and style are very important right from the audition stage. Have you ever seen an ugly idol? There really is very little.
Idols who are pretty and handsome have core fans. They become people who make your heart flutter. At the trainee stage, personality is considered important. Always be humble, kind and considerate. Idols learn everything, including gestures, speaking style, and more. Idols must be polite.
From the time they were new, they never talked about dating, sex-related things, alcohol or cigarettes. They only talk about fans. The company does not allow idols to meet people of the opposite sex.
These are easy to get obsessed and fanatical core fans. There are so many services for fans who buy a lot of albums and goods for them.
The company probably thinks that this method is easy and safe to realize high profits. I think that the company's ability to induce such fans is also problematic, rather than just the fans' perception.
The K-pop industry needs to stop being a pseudo-romantic business.
Your insights shed light on a complex aspect of the K-pop industry that often goes undiscussed. The reliance on core fans for financial success is indeed a double-edged sword, creating a cycle where companies might prioritize fan service over artistic growth. The examples you've given, like BTS, Blackpink, and IU, highlight different paths within the industry, showing that while fandom support is crucial, widespread public appeal based on musicality can also lead to lasting success.
The strategy of appealing primarily to core fans can lead to a limited scope for idols' personal lives and artistic expression, as seen with strict controls over their image and interactions. This approach does raise profits but at the cost of potentially stifling the artists' growth and authenticity.
Your call for the K-pop industry to evolve beyond the pseudo-romantic business model and focus more on musical abilities and individuality is compelling. It suggests a shift towards a more sustainable model that respects both artists' and fans' boundaries, allowing for a healthier relationship between them. This shift could not only help idols like aespa to grow musically but also to create a more genuine connection with a broader audience, ultimately benefiting everyone involved.
People have to realize that idols are HUMAN too like I’m Srry to say this but stop being delusional or whatever she can date who ever she wants like she has to be happy and some „fans“hate her for loving a person ?!?nah that’s embarrassing and something like that shouldn’t be a cancelled or something . Just let these idols ALONE it’s none of yall (hater or whatever )business like how would you feel ? Hmm poor Karina she doesn’t deserve this
Exactly! It's high time everyone remembers that idols are humans first. They deserve happiness just like the rest of us. It's pretty wild that some 'fans' would turn against Karina for simply being in a relationship. Love isn't a reason to hate or cancel anyone. Let's give idols the space to live their lives. Imagine being in their shoes-it's tough. Karina, or any idol for that matter, doesn't deserve negativity for personal choices. Let's spread more love and understanding. 💖
@@BeBossTV Yesss🩷🩷
This is just getting out of hand. Making your idol apologize for dating someone is the worst thing a fan can do. We became fans for their talent and music not to get into their personal lives. if we are a fan of a idol, it doesn't mean we are capable enough to criticize them for just doing a common human thing. 😭🤦🏻♂️
Absolutely, it’s gotten way out of hand. Expecting an idol to apologize for something as personal and natural as dating just doesn’t sit right. We’re here for their music and talent, not to police their personal choices. Being a fan doesn’t give anyone the right to criticize them for living their lives. It’s about time we all remember the human behind the idol. 🙏
She shouldn't have made a public apology or rather her company shouldn't have forced her to. She should've just ignored them assuming that's actually the reason why like the media claims. IDC if they're dating or not.
Keep in that I'm in my 30s, but that's besides the point. However, I don't trust the media or Dispatch. Haters are going to hate. You can't satisfy everyone.
You're right. Idols shouldn't have to apologize for their personal lives. The focus should be on their music and talent, not their private affairs. Haters will always find something to criticize, and it's impossible to please everyone. Skepticism towards the media and outlets like Dispatch is understandable, and personal privacy should be respected.
I wonder why something like this is such a big deal. Isn't it normal for a human being to fall in love?, is it because she is an idol that she can't date? This won't even be bad for Karina's career. Huhhh, why is the kpop industry so strange now
A lot of cash is made these days off para-social relationships. "Fans" really think they know their idols because they see a brief few minutes of their day. Companies are also very guilty of selling this closeness to the public and this narrative of the perfect human being who's just casually waiting for the perfect fan to come along.
It's downright hilarious to me how naive people are. Of course these drop-dead-gorgeous people, surrounded by others just as pretty as they are, are dating. Some are just better at covering it up than others.
Right,it’s pretty odd how much of a big deal this is made into. Falling in love is one of the most human experiences out there, idol or not. The K-pop industry has its quirks, but at the end of the day, personal happiness shouldn’t negatively impact someone’s career. Hopefully, we see a shift in perspective soon.
I m not against kpop idols dating. They have every right coz its their personal life. Im just frustrated Karina was not being careful & that it hurts her in return. They are in their 4th year since debut, its peak for their career. Moreover she is the most famous member of Aespa. Now she is being bashed and receives hate, its heart breaking. I tend to believe it could be an insider (her circle or his circle) who fed the info to Dispatch so that they are caught
I understand your frustration. It's hard to see Karina facing backlash at such a critical time in aespa's career. The idea of an insider leaking information is upsetting. What matters now is showing support and understanding, helping her through this tough period.
@@BeBossTV yup..i said the info could leaked from an insider knowing that Karina has this bubbly personality, perhaps she was being too trusting towards ppl around her and keep no secret about her dating life. Trust me, irl ppl like her get hurt most of the time
Korea seriously needs to grow up. Not sorry.
The Korean public doesn't care whether karina is in a relationship or not. The fans are angry. AESPA is far from public attention after next level.
Korea has 52 million people and most of them don’t even care about kpop. Stop generalizing.
True... Grow up and touch some grass...
Best couple ❣️ Leave them alone 🤧
Dating is not wrong. But as an idol, Karina should have seen this coming when she decided to pursue her boyfriend instead of focusing on her career.
I feel bad for other members having to face the consequences along. Aespa will have a hard time recover from this.
You're touching on a difficult reality in the industry and it's unfortunate that the consequences of Karina's choices might affect the entire group, especially considering the efforts of the other members.
Let's hope they can navigate this setback together and emerge stronger in the end.
I'm happy for her though part of me is broken in pieces by the scandle, I've loved her for so long and now i don't wanna be any of harm for her😭😭
When i heard this the first time, i didnt find it believable mainly coz i remembered they met on January once and suddenly at the end of feb they're announced dating. Another thing that adds is also with jisoos dating news that ended after 3 months or so and ppl speculating about it being media play lmao
It does sound like a whirlwind, doesn’t it? The timeline between meeting and the public dating announcement seems pretty quick, leading to skepticism. And with the situation around Jisoo’s short-lived dating news, it’s no wonder people are speculating about media play. It’s a reminder of how quickly narratives can form and change in the entertainment industry. What matters, though, is how the people directly involved navigate their personal and professional lives amidst the speculation.
This is some movie type shii
Seeing this now, Karina's career didn't take a downturn just like how everybody is saying but the total opposite
I don’t Stan Aespa but I’ll buy their Album now just to show support her dating
Goooooo girllll!!!
Karina should have just hide that !because it’s weird now when people look at her 😅she only been in the industry for 3 years!
He will definitely be ok after the break up! But I don’t think Karina career will be on top like before because she and winter have the most male fans / fanboy so she’s definitely done ! Winter always been center stage and I think she just grown more popular in girl fan and boys
Well jennie(blackpink) was dating kai(exo) after 2years from debut ,so
@@BouchraBsl-tr7ojUmm, i'm so sorry but we can't compare Blackpink and Aespa. No hate, but even before Jennie's dating scandal came out, Blackpink was already much bigger than Aespa is now.
Despite so many factors and differences between these two groups, Blackpink has been globally popular since their debut.
Sorry again and please correct me if I'm wrong, but even "Black Mamba" now (which is Aespa's most prominent achievement), still can't beat "Whistle" or "Boombayah" at that time. After that there was "Playing with Fire", "As If It's Your Last", and "Ddu-Du Ddu-Du", Even from the number of mv views, or awards, they cannot be compared and as I remember at that time they also collaborated with Dua Lipa.
And yes as you said, after two years since debut... they got all that in just two years since debut.
Again, despite so many factors and differences. They can't be compared but if they must, since you brought it up...
We can compare how success and popularity have a huge impact on scandal like this...
Because Blackpink was already so big at the time, so when Jennie's dating scandal came out, it had no impact on Blackpink and YG.
I mean... there was hate from the fans, but they didn't get a big impact you know... like a big loss to the company.
So... You can see the big difference here 🙏
@@caffeinehuggThis is a fact. But many people don't understand
It sounds like you're concerned about the impact of Karina's personal life on her career, especially considering the dynamics within aespa and their fanbase.
It's true that public perceptions can shift quickly in the entertainment industry, and idols often face disproportionate scrutiny for their personal decisions. However, talent and authenticity tend to stand the test of time. While the immediate reaction might seem overwhelming, artists often find ways to rebound and even grow from such experiences. As fans and observers, offering support and understanding during these times can make a difference. Let's hope for resilience and continued success for all members of aespa, including Karina and Winter, as they navigate their careers.
pls hoping she did end up like Sulli, SM is really shitttt
I liked the acknowledgement that LJW is not just a green flag but a green forest. He seems to be a genuinely good person. Which means Karina is drawn to good people as well. 😊
Ngl things were going well I think as it was, I saw a lot of people congratulating them both on mainly UA-cam and twitter - and then she posted the apology letter which Is a kpop idol custom but many people were confused as to why she did so… and from there it got even bigger- to the point it got on to the bbc, and now being claimed an embarrassment for Korea. I know Karina was thinking this is what comes next after being found out, but I’m feeling apologies are coming back to kick in the ass because it’s being seen as given into the judgement
You are totally on point! I haven’t seen much criticism until Chinese fans sent those trucks to make her embarrassed, while she did literally nothing.
Then, ever since her apology letter, things snowballed and I honestly don’t know why anymore
Lol why do people care if these idols date lol get a life 😂😂
I swear if this even gets close to ruining her career, I'm not going to respond for my actions. SM better start moving...
What's next for her:
1. Mentally unstable (because u know if u already on dating and have professional career its hard to maintain)
2. More aggression from fans
3. Drop on the performance
4. Breakup for good
5. Back to old prime karina before dating
Everything will be all right for her and she will grow a lot in her career.
Katarina will be alright as long as they hold on and toughen up for the rough ride ahead.
I don't consider those fans. Fans should support their Idols and be happy for them. No matter what they do especially dating. To me their just a bunch of no life toxic people who had nothing better to do than hate on Idols for having a life.
As much as i want to say, let her live her life and be happy. That aint gonna happen until she drops out of K-pop. Kpop as an industry did this to it itself. They made it like that to lure in kids and teenagers to make more money with the dulu fantansy of their idols. And most of their money comes from that. I like K-pop a lot and watch it, but i barely buy albums because i can just watch it on youtube for free. The majority of people that go out and buy the idols stuff are either hardcore fans or dulu fans. As long as the industry stays the same. Kpop dating will always be seen as a sin to a lot of their core fans. Well, probably won't ever change because the company ain't gonna throw away all that money.
Truly appreciate your rational pov and yes, Kpop is just another industry and they need to do business, they need to make money, and this is how they have been making money so it’s almost impossible to change this paradigm.
But, at the same time, HYBE is trying to make a change
Karina's personal life is her business. Just consider her professional performance with her amazing vocals, dancing ability and visuals. Stay out of her personal life. Don't you have better things to do in your own life?
Okay. Karina has apologized and time will HEAL! What has been done cannot be undone. Aespa will become stronger, better and conquerors with their talent, skills and music. Aespa, you still have MUCH more support than you can imagine than even before! Aespa, I Can't wait for your comeback, your concert , Karina's variety Netflix show, Ningning's OST and all the other members upcoming surprises (I've heard through the grapevine--shock the entertainment world), activities and events! Keep the faith and never look back, because ONLY brighter days are ahead! You ALL have each other. All you need to do is stay FOCUSED, HUMBLED and keep doing what you do BEST (4th generation leaders)!
Absolutely, the path forward is all about healing, growth, and looking ahead. Apologies have been made, and it's time to focus on the future. Aespa has an incredible amount of talent and potential that goes beyond any controversy. The support from fans like you shows just how strong and resilient the aespa community is. With so much excitement brewing for their comeback, concerts, Karina's Netflix show, Ningning's OST, and all the surprises the members have in store, it's clear that aespa is not just surviving but thriving. Your message of staying focused, humble, and continuing to excel at what they do best is exactly the mindset that will keep them at the forefront of the 4th generation of K-pop. The future is indeed bright for aespa, and I can't wait to see all the amazing things they'll achieve. Let's keep supporting them every step of the way!
SM is waiting for this to blow over and then it's right back to business. At least I hope that's what they're doing. Her dating doesn't have any influence on her future as an artist and to think otherwise or to demand them to break up simply because is just dumb.
You’re probably right about SM’s strategy, hoping for the situation to cool down before moving forward. It’s sensible to separate Karina’s personal life from her professional achievements. Her dating shouldn't impact her career, and expecting them to break up over public opinion is indeed unreasonable. Supporting her means respecting her personal choices alongside her talent.
Romantic Dating can't be a problem. Global fans gotta let this issue go away if they are fans
Never heard of Karina till now, but after this I will just pay more attention to her
Not sure it's a joke or?
If the Idols and Actors can’t have a love interest or be married, then The Fans should not be allowed to have those things either! 👩🏻💻
You are funny haha, but true, some fans are confusing...
Bro really stole my Girl smh
It wasn't really Karina - It was her Nævis ævatar - leave Karina alone!!
LOL you indeed
Honestly this is too much
I know right...
the weird thing for me is that when top female idols are revealed to be dating the male fans get mad and stop following the girl, but this time most of the drama, bad words and even hate came from female fans, my twitter was full of guys saying thing like: Damm!! or WTF!!! and few said more things, but the female fans were pissed, a lot were disappointed that Karina wasn't a lesbian or queer, and a lot of hate to Karina and to the guy
It's interesting how the reactions vary based on the genders involved. While male fans may express surprise or disappointment, it's concerning to see female fans directing hate towards Karina and her partner. Their disappointment in Karina's personal choices, especially regarding her sexual orientation, is unfair and misplaced. Let's remember that idols are entitled to their own lives and relationships, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, and focus on supporting them through their journey.
Misogyny in South Korea? Really?
Should women also be forced to serve in military like men do?
?
it's the chinese fans
let her be a human!!!
Aespa Views will Flop because of this & its Advantage for ive, itzy & New Jeans, unlike blackpink this girl group aespa is not that Popular due to its members Surgeries
All the groups you mentioned have done surgery too maybe except itzy
@@whysomadimjustsickofitaespa will drop because of this
@@vim2339 dating has nothing to do with their music and if fans won't like aespa after this then those so called fans can leave as they don't support their idols and aren't happy about their happiness
@@whysomadimjustsickofitno but many fans do care.many kpop fans have parasocial romantic relation with their favorite idols and when idols date they feel betrayed in their hate.
@@whysomadimjustsickofitchae did many surgeries