There's an issue with the video around 9 minutes 30 seconds in - it freezes on a frame for 20 seconds or so, during the first scene on the Klingon ship.
All the times McCoy has appeared, they've always gotten his banter with Spock nailed. Even in his cameo in Encounter At Farpoint when he remarks that Data reminds him of Spock.
I remember when seeing this in the theater and thinking why everyone would be so amazed by the scene of a barren desert. Looks more like hell than heaven. But perhaps that was the point. We are all fooled by the attraction of hell and tricked into to thinking it heaven.
"And it seemed real. It seemed like us and it seemed like, well, our home. If not Arizona, then a land not too far away. Where all parents are strong and wise and capable, and all children are happy and beloved. I don't know ...Maybe it was Utah." 😆
He doesn't really realise it's a lie, the creature tells him straight up. Up until that point he is still questioning why it has hurt his friends. But yes, he immediately acts once he knows.
Star Trek V may not be the best Star Trek movie ever, but I like it because it has 3 elements from the show, 1. they had a hostile force take over the Enterprise, 2. they had them encounter a "God like" being, and 3. the relationship between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy was firing on all cylinders. Also, the woman who gave Kirk his jacket when he got to the bridge of the Enterprise is Shatner's real life daughter.
I hate this movie partly for the first two reasons you said you liked it. As for the 3rd, it was such a corny way to do it, it ended up making me cringe so hard. And the rest of the movie.... Lots of really bad jokes. Making the entire crew except Kirk and Spock simps to fall for Sybok's religious nonsense. The idea that there is a planet at the center of the galaxy is laughable. I don't have enough power in my fingers to type all the awful things about this film.
@@larrybremer4930You absolutely can be hard on Shatner for this movie. He is credited as one of the writers, so he doesn’t escape his share of the blame for the script’s lack of quality, and he was working with the largest budget for any Star Trek movie after the first. Your attempted excuses for Shatner are weaker than the movie he directed.
@@markhamstra1083you totally can give Shatner a break. If you have ever read the Tek War novels, you would know that he can actually write good dialogue. The studio forced him to cut too much and cut corners on the production. We are seeing only 70% of what Shatner actually wanted.
Is that not the best? I've worked with some celebrities and other famous people, but I've only had one experience where one of them sat and hung out with me as a perfect stranger, with no prior professional relationship to get in the way, just two guys talking. It was comedian Dick Gregory. We talked about nutritional supplements and conspiracy theories, but it wasn't one of those weird conversations, he was a brilliant man and very down-to-earth. RIP to an absolute legend. I would have enjoyed just listening to you chat with James Doohan.
I met him as well. A very nice man smiles and joked with every fan after the convention. circa 1977. it was at CWU. After the presentation there was a Q an A. He asked " sir, I've got the blueprints to the starship Enterprise. I've gone over them a hundred times, but I cannot find a toilet anywhere! How did the crew deal with ..eh hem...the call of nature?" James.aks Scotty replied " well...we set our phasers on disintegrate and aimed very carefully. " !!!! ha ha ha! everyone was delighted.
Met DeForest at a convention. He did not sig autographs because he could only do it so long and didn't want to disappoint anyone if they were turned away. I however had presented him earlier, a framed drawing of him from my Star Trek comic strip 'Enterprise.' He was very delighted by it and asked me to autograph it for him! The next morning as I was checking out of the hotel, he shows up right next to me to do the same. I braved showing him another drawing of his character that I had hoped to also have autographed for myself, and because I had actually given him something earlier, he obliged.
The entire scene with Bones and his father is absolutely hearttouching. It's something I think a lot of us longtime Trek fans can relate to. Bones has always been a tough hardass, but in that moment, he was a son looking at his elderly dying father; a man of strength in his life asking to be unburdened from the world and pain. It's really quite... human I guess. It is a movie scene that rings true to many off us in reality.
And yet, Spock's pain involved his father during birth. So you have McCoy and his father during death and Spock and his father during birth. It shows that they are truly two sides of the same coin.
Bill Quinn's last movie. He was the cranky old man in the "Kick the Can" story in Twilight Zone: The Movie. I remember losing my mind trying to place him when I saw ST5 on opening weekend. Should have had better lines and other coulda-woulda-shouldas. I hated the dinner theater quality of the scene.
@gregchavez1534 You like Twilight Zone:The Movie?? And here I thought I was alone! Lol I love ANYTHING Twilight Zone & Outer Limits (ALL versions). My husband can name the titles of episodes, and I can tell him what happens on most, if not all of them! 😅 Sorry, back to Star Trek.
@@HermanVonPetri I suppose he or she could have been. Maybe that's cool. Maybe they can help explain "the Klingon problem"? If anyone can do it, it's someone who thinks heaven is in Utah. No irreverence intended.
@@monsterlairNo asking God why he needed a Starship just might be the most Kirk line ever. Only Kirk has the balls to go up to God and be like prove it.
While this one isn't high up on my list of most loved Trek movies, the line about how our pain helps make us who we are helped me to accept and embrace the pains and traumas in my life and make peace with them. Without them, I wouldn't be the man I am.
Ah, it's not that bad. The camping scenes are fun, Laurence Luckinbill is terrific as Sybok, the scene where he takes away Bones' pain is heartbreaking and when Kirk says he needs his pain is a really good line. We also get a cameo that was so good from David Warner that he's in the next film. lol.
I don't think it was Christopher Plummer. Further upthread another poster said it was the old man from the "Kick The Can" segment of "Twilight Zone - The Movie".@@davidleedutton
Kirk: I thought I was going to die. Spock: Not possible. You were never alone. [Kirk moves to hug Spock, and Spock stops him] Spock: Please, Captain, not in front of the Klingons.
“Damn it, Bones, you're a doctor. You know that pain and guilt can't be taken away with a wave of a magic wand. They're the things we carry with us, the things that make us who we are. If we lose them, we lose ourselves. I don't want my pain taken away! I need my pain!” This may be the best line of the movie actually. (Same comment from the deleted video)
I always thought it was kind of a bummer of a line, actually. It's definitely the most Kirk thing to say, though. I'd rather keep the memories and lessons of life but not the pain that goes with it. At least that's the goal. 🤷♀
Cassie, since you adore Mr.Scott, you may like to hear about how James Doohan was quite the WWII hero. He was a Lt in the Canadian infantry. After training in England he landed on the Canadian's Juno beach on D-Day. He protected his men by taking out two snipers and led the way through a mine field. He later got hit by six bullets in an unfortunate incident from his own side, with one of the bullets going in his chest but being stopped by a cigarette case given him by his brother ! ( its so movie like ). He recovered back in England then trained as pilot for those tiny little slow moving spotter planes that fly over enemy territory, spotting whats a danger ahead and what to target. After being seen slaloming between telegraph poles to prove it could be done he was called the craziest pilot in the Canadian airforce. Mr. Scott - real life hero !
I read that he wore a prosthetic glove to disguise it sometimes. I had a guided battlefield tour of Juno ( code name ), the Canadian forces landing beach. Its a weird feeling how close it is in practical history, being just a couple of generations removed.@@Jakyre1983
Whilst in gunnery school in England prior to D-Day he met a scottish officer on the same course. He used his experience of this voice to help create 'Scotty's accent.
I didn't know that. He did have a Celtic background himself though, being of Irish immigrant stock to Canada - and you know how those of Celtic heritage often maintain it well in the new world. Actually this triggered memory of the story behind John Cleese's 'Basil Fawlty' character. The Monty Python team had been filming on the south coast and some were put up in a hotel owned by a rude and eccentric former naval officer, who regarded anything guests needed as a nuisance. Most of the crew moved out, but Cleese and another remained to study the man ! Thus Fawlty was born.@@RichardBrake-fo4iw
The scene with Bones confronting the pain of his father dying hit Deforrest Kelly hard as his dad had actually died not long before the filming started.
@proteus404 Thank God for that !! 😳 I desperately need something to cleanse the cheesiness of this out of my system !! Honestly not to be too mean here but i've seen all the original cast Star Trek films many times each ... ST V is the only one i've seen only once and once was enough i 'm only here because i do love the series and Cassie makes every reaction entertaining . And agreed Star Trek 6 is an amazing movie marking the return of Director Nicolas Meyer who also directed Wrath of Khan i'm so looking forward to that one .😃 'til then 🖖
That may be DeForest Kelley's single best performance across the entire franchise. And I agree, the character beats were great, especially between the Trio.
Kirk's speech as well about needing their pain, particularly if you come into the movies as a fan of the original series. His wife, two children, his brother and sister-in-law, Edith, he's a man with a lot of pain. Though I recall Spock easing his pain about Edith if not removing it at the end of that episode.
Nope, that wasn't Edith. "City" ends with Kirk saying "Let's get the he'll out of here." Spock melds with a sleeping Kirk at the end of "Requiem for Methuselah" and commands him to forget Rayna Kapek.
Yeah I like the movie but it needed a few more drafts. I think inserting the Klingon villains at the climax was a copout. The battle and the resolution should have been against "god". How do you beat a god-like being? It would have brought on some interesting tactics. Maybe Kirk could work together with the Klingons.
Kirk's speech to Bones of needing his pain needing his hurt to become who he is always spoke to me and it is my favorite part of this film. Glad she finally got back to the Star Trek series
As someone who had a personal relationship issue that was devastating, I can relate. It’s made me stronger and less prone to trusting just because someone says they care about you.
As I remember, in an early draft for this movie Dr.McCoy, knowing that Spock would look up earth camping rituals, had the ship's database alterd slightly as a prank. McCoy smiling as Spock says marshmellon is the only part of that plotline that made it into the movie.
It's a small thing, but it never gets mentioned when people discuss this film. Shatner is actually singing. He released albums during his career where he basically just talks the lyrics while the music is playing. I think he might have said in an interview that he had no confidence in his singing voice. But that was as fair a rendition of "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" as I have ever heard.
An interesting point of trivia -- when Scotty takes the reflective foil bag from Uhura, it's one of the few times you can really see his wound from WWII -- a missing middle finger. He was a Canadian soldier during the war, and lost the finger after having been hit by a German round. He tended to hide the injury during his acting career.
It was actually friendly fire from a nervous sentry, he was shot 6 times, 4 in the leg, 1 in the finger and 1 in the chest that was stopped by his cigarette case.
You get a real clear view of it in another episode she watched. Space Seed. When they gas the conference room that Khan is in and they run into the hallway and Kirk talks to Scotty it’s plain as day.
On the planet, it was essentially a prison for a powerful alien stuck there and couldn't get past the barrier meant to keep him in place. Some ancient alien species locked him away there, but it became folklore and stories throughout history.
According to beta canon, it is yet another of the great and powerful beings encountered all over in Trek like Trelane. In this case though, the being stuck there was imprisoned there by the Q Continuum according to the beta canon.
@@markjuarez1791 It's called "The Quartermasters Stores". It dates back at least to WWI and It has very few lyrics, because a lot of it is made up by using your companions names or nicknames, to provide the verses, as Cassie demonstrated here with "Cassie" and "sassy" and depending on who you are with, can be clean or more risque/suggestive.
This one was directed by William Shatner and he did the best he could with what he was given. He had to deal with a very diminished budget that limited the special effects. This is especially evident in the space shots, the shooting model of the Enterprise was now ten years old and in need of repairs. ILM had done the special effects previously but were not available due to other commitments, another company came in to do them but had less time to get them done. They went as cheap as possible because of the budget being cut. Despite all of this, I still enjoy this film, the personal moments between the crew are great and we see a lot more of Uhura and other crew having more screen time. And yes, that is really Nichelle singing!
Loud and proud, I love Star Trek V. Deep concepts put to the silly test by our beloved characters. Spock's Brain, Shore Leave, Trouble with Tribbles, I Mudd, classic silly Star Trek. They can't (and shouldn't) be all Star Trek VI's - which you will love by the way)! Thanks for your show!
It's a line I reference a lot, particularly when someone else is advocating a motivated re-interpretation of their or some other's circumstances. However, I tend to keep its association with the film as low key as possible.
Too bad Blizzard Entertainment ruined that line forever by having a power hungry emo creep reject the healing power of the Holy Light by crying “I *am* my scars!” like he’s Kylo Ren and he just lost his guyliner.
Absolutely cannot wait for you to watch Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country I really hope you watch the Director's Cut, as it's absolutely amazing! I know you usually make a point of watching the Theatrical Cut of a movie first, but I hope you'll make an exception in the case of the next Star Trek film.
Yes, please don't let 5 keep you from watching 6. 6 is a mostly well-made adventure worthy of the big screen. 5 should have just been a TV special or something.
This movie was originally supposed to end with Kirk fighting giant rock monsters (probably inspired by the creatures in the Old Testament), but it was scrapped when the movie's budget ran out. Galaxy Quest poked fun at this by having Jason Nesmith fight a rock monster.
Cassie! "Star Trek VI" was directed by Nicholas Meyer, who also directed "Wrath of Khan." When you watch, enjoy the opening overture, by a new composer, Cliff Eidelman. Really good stuff all around. :)
Cassie, as a non-Trekkie, you cannot *imagine* the utter bewilderment that we experienced when this acid-trip of a film landed... Roddenbury himself has described it as "apocryphal".
The ST5 novelization is a cornucopia of apocrypha including what I assume was post facto plotting for a back story to the campfire in which Bones hatches a nutty and ultimately inane plan to punk Spock by programming the food replicator to make him think marshmallows were called marshmelons. So much novelization drek in that time period. I even read "Encounter at Farpoint". The mind reels.
@gregchavez1534 the novelization of Star Trek IV was bad, too. To break the $20.00 to exact change Kirk bought Candy. Spock ate a piece and was intoxicated...by chocolate!
Probably my favourite bit in the score is when everyone's on the bridge too distracted by what they're seeing, and the music seamlessly incorporates the Klingon theme as the sensors detect Klaa's ship.
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is one of my favorites. I know it's not popular, but this is a chill laid back film. There's no real hard-nosed villain with a huge life or death scenario in this film. It's kind of a break from the more intensive films of Star Trek 2 and 3. And I absolutely love the humor. Especially seeing Kirk, Spock, and Bones on their off time camping. -OG
It gets a lot of hate, some rightly so, like the terrible FX co they ended up having to use an inexperienced FX co. But I always watch and enjoy it, I call it a great Sunday afternoon film, relexed and watching lying down on the sofa.
I really think that Laurence Lukenbill played Sybok perfectly. He's intense, charismatic and surprisingly sincere despite his megalomania. I've come to really appreciate his performance.
@@HermanVonPetri Yes indeed, and I love the soundtrack as well. Shatner gets blame as director, some of it rightly, but I think I read some where there was behind the scenes stuff like budget etc… out of his control that did not help.
Spot on. There's so much to enjoy in this. One, a fascinating idea at the heart of the story, two, amazing performances by the cast, three, another of Jerry Goldsmith's beautiful, masterful scores, four, the first appearance of the assault phaser, and five, most importantly, without this film we never would have heard of marsh melons. I love this flick.
I always saw it very much like Superman IV: the Quest for Peace. Neither that movie or STV:The Final Frontier were very good films, *but both plots were quintessential for their respective franchises.* An 80s movie about Superman had to address Superman getting rid of nuclear weapons. And Star Trek's quintessential script, especially given that its creator was a staunch atheist, had to take on the concept of God. I give STV more credit than I ever have, *because they made a movie THAT COULD NOT HAVE A GOOD ENDING.* If they found God, it would 1) anger people and 2) not serve the vision of Star Trek's creator. If they _didn't_ find God, instead saying that he doesn't exist (which the movie does in subtext), they would still anger...the _same_ people. Because of that, it is easily my favorite of the lackluster Star Trek movies. And one day, it will be accepted in honor as it should be.
The scene with Uhura singing relates back to the series and before that. There were various times is the show where she would sing while in the lounge. Before Star Trek she was singing on stage (I forget where) . They used her talent for the show.
A Vulcan can have telepathic powers, so it stands to reason they can clear people's minds of their pain. It's just not like a Vulcan to go around doing such a thing.
All Vulcans have Telepathic powers. They also have incredibly volatile emotions that can cause them great pain. They don't like experiencing their own emotions, let alone others.
Nice to see some positive words for V. It's certainly flawed, and the conclusion is a bit half-baked, but the concept is so good that I can't help but appreciate what it's trying to accomplish.
abiogenesis - 2 abiogenesis again and immortality - 3 time travel and ecology - 4 Immortality and the nature of reality - Generations Time travel and alien contact - first contact
it certainly had potential to be better. if the campiness wasn't over the top and they managed to implement the "hell scene" originally planned then this movie would have been much better @@BrianKoppe
Cassie, Laurence Luckinbill, who played Sybok, is the husband of Lucie Arnaz, the daughter of Lucille Ball, the grand dame of comedians! Ever watch I LOVE LUCY?
And Lucille Ball is the reason that Star Trek even exists as her studio, Desilu, was the one that produced the original series, and had faith in it even when the networks were hard to convince.
@@TheCkent100 The Arnazs are responsible for a LOT of sci-fi history. "The Time Element", which was essentially the pilot for "The Twilight Zone", aired as part of a live-drama anthology show that Desi produced and hosted.
Whoever did your thumbnail design did a very good job of coloring your picture in the same style as the graphics of the movie poster. I don't know what filters he/she used, but the results are worth mentioning. Like you're part of that universe. (Never thought I would praise a thumbnail design, but here we are.)
Sha Ka Ree was put in the movie because they originally wanted Sean Connery to play Sybok. When he turned it down, Shatner came up with the name in honor of Sean Connery.
It wasn't so much that he turned it down, it's that he simply wasn't available. He was busy making some other film with Harrison Ford at the time.... Also, after Paramount slashed the budget they couldn't have afforded him, even if he were.
The creature they encounter was trapped there by the Q and Kevin Uxbridges race. This is the being that granted powers to the characters in TOS “Where no man has gone before”. Thank you for this experience watching along. Star Trek is something my dad and I did together for as long as I remember. The friendship of the trio hits hard.
@@qwaurk985I came across this also in a book series. There was a creature that other races could not defeat, so they trapped it in an energy barrier- that the Enterprise traversed in the episode described above.
Shatner’s original pitch was that Spock and Bones would join Sybok as well, leaving Kirk as the only one onboard not swayed by Sybok’s power. When they go to the planet, the entity would be revealed as Satan. After the reveal, Satan would kill Sybok and summon demonic rock monsters to drag Spock and Bones down to Hell. Kirk would then have to go to Hell itself to rescue his friends. Nimoy and Kelley rejected the idea of their characters betraying Kirk, and Paramount objected to the overtly religious nature of the ending. Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry also objected, citing an established rule in Star Trek that religion does not exist in the Federation (“They’ve evolved past it.”)
I like where it landed, though it would have been MUCH better had Spock n McCoy pretended to be loyal to Sybok… What a hot mess of a movie, but still better than 99% of modern cinema.
"What are ya standing around for? Do you not know a jail break when you see one!?!?" I hated this movie like most everyone else, despite the nod to Midnight Oil, but I confess that this delivery by James Doohan made me chuckle out loud in the theater along with most everyone else. And its on par with the quote you cited. Cheers.
@@gregchavez1534 I will never say it’s a perfect movie part of the problem this movie had was that there was a writer strike at the time, so that why it does fall apart sometimes. But it’s definitely the most quotable Star Trek movie, and in my opinion the funniest aster Star Trek 4
@@rh1242 I have a difficult time putting any kind of positive spin on this one, but they did manage to drop in some good lines here and there. But even the "I need my pain" speech only gained respect once distance from the plot was achieved in the minds of fans. Maybe we can blame this on first-time director William "I directed a few TJ Hookers" Shatner? It was a bad move, for sure, but it's unfair to put it all on Bill. ST4 worked so well because ST2 and 3 took such a toll on the collective hearts of the legions of Boomer and GenX Trekkie-dom. Stakes were raised!! Brilliantly orchestrated tension gave everyone nosebleeds and sinus headaches!! Savek got a facelift!! So many once-beloved TV stars from the early 80's kept trying to blow up the Enterprise that Kirk went ahead and did it himself!! After all that, we the audience were desperate for some feelgood marine mammal re-population, Spock-interpreted profanity and madcap chase sequences through a nuclear wessel and brain surgery ward. The executive team behind ST4 read the populace well, so much so that people who has no previous interest in Star Trek bought tickets. Embarrassingly abundant success. All of which spelled disaster for ST5, no matter who ended up directing. Knowing that there was nothing left to milk from the Kahn Trilogy, the creative staff was burdened with charting a fresh path for a greying cast while satisfying what had to have been unruly expectations from studio A&R types and casual movie fans to remake the comedic magic of ST4. Finally, the acceptable but low-key recovery that followed with ST6 set the standard for the disappointingly unambitious TNG films. Never again would a ST story follow a multi-film arc.
This movie was a major disappointment to me after the highs of the first 4 movies (yes, I even liked the first one), but watching this reaction now I am reminded of how many good lines of dialogue there were. It wasn't a total loss, just not as good as the other movies. And the slashed budget did them no favors.
@@rh1242 We'll have to quibble on quotability rank (2, 3, 1 -- You are the Kirk unit! -- 4, 6, 5, IMO) but as more distance accrues from my abject disappointment in '89, I find more to like.
Once on the old Tom Snyder Tomorrow Show they did a Star Trek episode. On it were several cast members and Harlan Ellison. Harlan said "What if the Enterprise went to a planet and found God but it was really the devil?" This one was as close as they got.
I love your positivity. Star Trek 5 wasn't bad, definitely NOT the worst Star Trek film. It's cute, a little silly. Because of Star Trek 4's upbeat nature, they wanted to continue the trend with this, and it had mixed results... Nonetheless, this movie still had some great moments. Kirk explaining how he needed his pain and how it made us who we were was actually a powerful and very relevant statement. Anyway, you do not want to miss Star Trek 6. The Director from The Wrath of Khan, Nicholas Meyer returns for it. Can't wait for your next video!
Was going to comment on “Heaven looks like Utah!” but lots have gotten there first. Cassie made me burst out laughing with her her reaction at 4:45! I had honestly never paid much attention before, but her stunned look & hand gesture were priceless! We love you Cassie! 🤣🤣🤣
I have to admit, Cassie's look of bewilderment, her mouthing the word three, followed by the gesture made me crack up laughing too. She has wonderful comedic timing.
I just went ahead and signed up with Patreon for the first time for this! So glad you didn't skip V! This was my childhood favorite movie and remains an all time nostalgia fav. I love The Final Frontier and I will die on this hill!
Is V the greatest Trek movie of all time? Objectively, probably not. But gosh nabbit if it isn't fun! And to say it's the "worst" would be to pretend the JJverse never happened (which would be for the better, IMO) If you ask me, V rivals The One With the Whales for comedy! Long live The Final Frontier and Cassie Popcorn! Qa'pla!
Great reaction as always. I know a lot of ST fans don't like this one but I didn't think it was bad. There are some powerful scenes. "I need my pain" and "I have found my place" and "I lost a brother once..." I love how much you like these!
I also struggle on whether I like VI or II better...usually it is 6 by a nose. Both were written and directed by Nicholas Meyer. I'll stop talking to avoid accidentally giving away a spolier and look forward to seeing Cassie's reaction to 6!
The music in the beginning is from the Star Trek The Next Generation TV series. I'd highly recommend it. I never was much of a fan of Kirk and the original crew (a few episodes like "The Doomsday Machine" were good), but TNG was a work of art.
Many years ago, my university's film society included this movie as one of their "surprise" features for their annual sci-fi movie marathon. The atmosphere at the movie marathon was always pretty relaxed, with people occasionally shouting jokes at the screen, etc. So when the movie started, people started booing when they realized what movie it was, especially at the title card. But the best part was when Kirk was climbing El Capitan. As you saw, he's climbing freehand up the cliff, and when he started losing his grip, everyone started chanting, "FALL! FALL! FALL!" Of course, he falls, and then everyone started chanting, "DIE! DIE! DIE!" Then Spock saves him, and everyone starts booing. A moment later, the movie stops, and everyone is wondering what's going on. It turned out the whole thing was a practical joke, and the actual surprise feature was Star Trek VI. When that one started a few minutes later and people realized what it was, cheering abounded.
@@duanevpI dunno…. I LOVE Wrath of Khan, but ST6 just has it all: intrigue, action, humor, big stakes, a great villain, everyone gets their moment, and lots of quotable dialogue. It’s really dependent on my mood on the day I am watching them whether I prefer TWOK or TUC. It’s a testament to the two films that they are both just so good. Also: ST5 has aged better than expected. If they ever could do a George Lucas style special edition/remaster of it with cleaned up effects, I think it would be even more appreciated.
"Heaven looks like Utah." The opening you just made for so many Mormon jokes... LMAO!! Seriously, tho, it was cool seeing your reaction to this one too. Yeah, Jerry Goldsmith was quite the soundtrack artist... too bad he's no longer with us though his son seems to be following in his footsteps. Looking forward to seeing your reaction to Trek VI! (My fave)
I had this reaction playing off to the side with the sound muted, and I looked up about 20 or 25 times, and I never saw her smiling like in the other Star Trek movies she's reacted to. I don't remember caring for this movie much, and feeling like Star Trek 6 was sort of a redemption for this movie.
Fun fact: Sean Connery was tapped to play the character of Sybok. That's where they got the name Shakaree. It's a play on Connery's name. You're welcome.
I met George takei at a convention a few years ago. What a nice fella..I commented upon his great voice and ventured the thought that he'd do well to cover some Sinatra songs..upon which he immediately broke into new York, new York... ..what a guy.!!
It's stuff like that that makes Cassie one of my favorites. Also the cute way she mispronounces stuff and maintains that sweetness despite seeing some horrible things on this channel.
As a McCoy fan, DeForest's acting bumped this movie up many points higher than it would of otherwise had. His acting was pitch perfect. Nemoy was also amazing. Some of his lines made me think of Q vs Spock. The trio worked amazingly well together. Also Scotty is pitch perfect. There was some serious flaws, but like many people pointed out, there was a lot of great character moments in this film.
"It wasn't terrible, just a little weird", that's probably the best description of the movie. 2 things really hurt this movie, first was a lack of a proper budget which led to some shotty effects. Second, any script that tries to combine science and faith is always .......... tricky, shall we say
Paramount wanted Industrial Light and Magic for the effects, but it was 1989 and ILM was already booked solid on both Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and Ghostbusters II. So they cheaped out, and it shows. The Great Barrier is literally just a solarized negative of some ink squirted in water. Like, that's almost Ed Wood level 😑
Cassie, I applaud you for going into this one with an open mind despite so many of us telling you how much we dislike it. Good for you! It's great that you noticed the term "borgas frat" from Scotty. Now I've never read or heard any confirmation of this, but I have always speculated that that was a very deliberate choice. In the original series episode "I, Mudd", Scotty uses that term as an expletive directed at Mudd, who was portrayed by Roger C. Carmel. Carmel died during the production of Star Trek V and I can't help but wonder if that was their way of honoring him. It would have been a very Trek thing to do.
this movie was so under-rated, and it's better than several of the other original cast films that were made. Very powerful and thought provoking in many parts of the film. I'm glad I saw it in the theater.
As weird as you thought it was, it could've been alot worse! There was a deleted scene on the director's edition DVD where it showed a terrible looking rock monster. Apparently the "God" entity formed the rock monster to attack our heroes in the original version of the film before it was scrapped in favor of the final cut we eventually got. Everyone seems to lay the blame of the movie's unpopularity at Shatner's feet. To be honest, I think the blame should fall on the execs at Paramount at the time, who weren't willing to fork over the money needed for proper special effects. Plus, ILM wasn't available at the time to handle the VFX, so the production team were forced to hire another company to do the effects for the film.
@@BattleAngelFan99 actually I didn't. But I'll check it out now that I know. Probably a ton of references she missed. I'm still seeing my comment, but youtube is weird these days
This one is a guilty pleasure of mine. As far as star trek movies go, it isn't anywhere near the bottom (generations) its campy enough that its lack of production value and corniness gives it a charm. And the delivery of "what does God need with a starship?" makes it one of my favorite lines in all the films.
Your comment about this being the wild west reminded me of when STAR TREK was first pitched to the netwok it was described as WAGON TRAIN ìn space that was a program on TV at the time set in the old west
The guy who did this music (and the first Trek film) also did music for Poltergeist and Alien, and was the reason you were so involved in those. Watch Twilight Zone the Movie, Gremlins, and Supergirl for his other movie musical treats. Also watch Hellraiser (1 & 2), Evil Dead 2, the Fly, and the Blob for exceptional horror. The Goonies is also a good wholesome one.
Cassie, just an FYI on the Canuck angle.... FYI that the actor that plays scotty is a Canadian D-Day veteran. One of his hands was wounded they don't show it because he lost a finger or fingers.
BLASPHEMY! Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons was wrong. The world's only working phaser was used twice not once. The first time it was used to prevent William Shatner from making another album. The second time was used to prevent him from directing another movie!
Fun fact (or possibly rumor depending on who you ask) - they wanted Sean Connery for the role of Sybok. When he turned it down they inserted an easter egg into the script... Sha Ka Ree.
This has over the years become one of my favorite of the original star trek films. Like the motion picture my first time watching was not so favorable. I must say as I got older my opinion of them changed,as I now enjoy all six movies for different reasons. Having lost my Dad recently Dr. McCoy's scene with his dad will always make me very emotional. But all in all I love the lighthearted friendship shown between Kirk,Spock,and Bones. Star trek is at it's best when exploration of the unknown is at the center of the stories. All that considered Captain Kirk has run into many situations like this(with advanced aliens)in the og tv series so his skepticism was warranted. Also zapping Kirk for simply asking for proof was not the act of a loving creator. Thus proving this being was not God as Spock so eloquently put it. Also this movie reminded me of the star trek audio novels that I love listening to. Anyways great reaction. Very much looking forward to Star trek 6 reaction and beyond 😊_V(Live long and prosper).
Sorry about that guys! The audio should work in this one :)
All good... 👍
Thanks for the speedy re-upload! Looking forward to The Undiscovered Country!
It's all good. Thanks.
Thank you Cassie 👍👍it’s good now
There's an issue with the video around 9 minutes 30 seconds in - it freezes on a frame for 20 seconds or so, during the first scene on the Klingon ship.
“God, I liked him better before he died” is one of the best lines in this movie.
I rolled when I heard it.
His delivery of that line is epic, great stuff.
All the times McCoy has appeared, they've always gotten his banter with Spock nailed. Even in his cameo in Encounter At Farpoint when he remarks that Data reminds him of Spock.
I love how they planted that as a pretty funny line on it's own, but at the same time venturing into the philosophical theme of the movie 😄
I laugh every time I watch it, the delivery makes it so much haha
13:37 when Cassie said, “What is happening?” Made me laugh out loud. That’s the first reaction that all Trekies had when we first saw this movie!
the biggest W T F Scene of all Star Trek movies and Series ^-^
ah yes, the uhura fan dance
LOL. Best line in the reaction: "So,Heaven looks like... Utah." LMAO
I remember when seeing this in the theater and thinking why everyone would be so amazed by the scene of a barren desert. Looks more like hell than heaven. But perhaps that was the point. We are all fooled by the attraction of hell and tricked into to thinking it heaven.
"And it seemed real. It seemed like us and it seemed like, well, our home. If not Arizona, then a land not too far away. Where all parents are strong and wise and capable, and all children are happy and beloved. I don't know ...Maybe it was Utah." 😆
I would have said Wyoming, but yeah.
I laughed way too hard at this too!
I love how Sybok realizes it's a lie and immediately turns on the being. "I can't help but notice your pain. SHARE IT WITH ME!"
Tupac Shakur uses that sound byte for the opening of his title track “Pain”. I never knew what movie he got it from until I became a Star Trek fan.
He doesn't really realise it's a lie, the creature tells him straight up. Up until that point he is still questioning why it has hurt his friends. But yes, he immediately acts once he knows.
Star Trek V may not be the best Star Trek movie ever, but I like it because it has 3 elements from the show, 1. they had a hostile force take over the Enterprise, 2. they had them encounter a "God like" being, and 3. the relationship between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy was firing on all cylinders.
Also, the woman who gave Kirk his jacket when he got to the bridge of the Enterprise is Shatner's real life daughter.
Don't forget camping at Yosemite.
I hate this movie partly for the first two reasons you said you liked it. As for the 3rd, it was such a corny way to do it, it ended up making me cringe so hard. And the rest of the movie.... Lots of really bad jokes. Making the entire crew except Kirk and Spock simps to fall for Sybok's religious nonsense. The idea that there is a planet at the center of the galaxy is laughable. I don't have enough power in my fingers to type all the awful things about this film.
You can't be too hard on William Shatner for this movie, he did as good as anyone could with the script and very low budget he was given.
@@larrybremer4930You absolutely can be hard on Shatner for this movie. He is credited as one of the writers, so he doesn’t escape his share of the blame for the script’s lack of quality, and he was working with the largest budget for any Star Trek movie after the first. Your attempted excuses for Shatner are weaker than the movie he directed.
@@markhamstra1083you totally can give Shatner a break. If you have ever read the Tek War novels, you would know that he can actually write good dialogue. The studio forced him to cut too much and cut corners on the production. We are seeing only 70% of what Shatner actually wanted.
I met James "scotty" doohan at a convention, before it opened up. He sat with me talking and signed a number of autographs. He was a great guy.
Is that not the best? I've worked with some celebrities and other famous people, but I've only had one experience where one of them sat and hung out with me as a perfect stranger, with no prior professional relationship to get in the way, just two guys talking. It was comedian Dick Gregory. We talked about nutritional supplements and conspiracy theories, but it wasn't one of those weird conversations, he was a brilliant man and very down-to-earth. RIP to an absolute legend. I would have enjoyed just listening to you chat with James Doohan.
I met him as well. A very nice man smiles and joked with every fan after the convention. circa 1977.
it was at CWU. After the presentation there was a Q an A. He asked " sir, I've got the blueprints to the starship Enterprise. I've gone over them a hundred times, but I cannot find a toilet anywhere! How did the crew deal with ..eh hem...the call of nature?"
James.aks Scotty replied " well...we set our phasers on disintegrate and aimed very carefully. " !!!!
ha ha ha! everyone was delighted.
Met DeForest at a convention. He did not sig autographs because he could only do it so long and didn't want to disappoint anyone if they were turned away. I however had presented him earlier, a framed drawing of him from my Star Trek comic strip 'Enterprise.' He was very delighted by it and asked me to autograph it for him! The next morning as I was checking out of the hotel, he shows up right next to me to do the same. I braved showing him another drawing of his character that I had hoped to also have autographed for myself, and because I had actually given him something earlier, he obliged.
Next up Cass star trek vi: the undiscovered country , looking forward to you react to that one
He is also a WWII Veteran and lost a finger during the Normandy invasion, sadly to friendly fire if I recall.
"I need my pain" is such a good line and oddly comforting. Always thought that even as a kid.
The entire scene with Bones and his father is absolutely hearttouching. It's something I think a lot of us longtime Trek fans can relate to. Bones has always been a tough hardass, but in that moment, he was a son looking at his elderly dying father; a man of strength in his life asking to be unburdened from the world and pain. It's really quite... human I guess. It is a movie scene that rings true to many off us in reality.
And yet, Spock's pain involved his father during birth. So you have McCoy and his father during death and Spock and his father during birth. It shows that they are truly two sides of the same coin.
@@rufus5966brilliant observation
It's one of the best moments in Star Trek. DeForest Kelly gives such a great performance.
Bill Quinn's last movie. He was the cranky old man in the "Kick the Can" story in Twilight Zone: The Movie. I remember losing my mind trying to place him when I saw ST5 on opening weekend. Should have had better lines and other coulda-woulda-shouldas. I hated the dinner theater quality of the scene.
@gregchavez1534 You like Twilight Zone:The Movie?? And here I thought I was alone! Lol I love ANYTHING Twilight Zone & Outer Limits (ALL versions). My husband can name the titles of episodes, and I can tell him what happens on most, if not all of them! 😅 Sorry, back to Star Trek.
"Heaven looks like Utah."
What a hysterical, deadpan quote😂!
I liked the Eden planet from the Original Series better. Sure, the grass and fruit was all poisonous, but at least it looked pretty 😆
Maybe the location scout was Mormon?
@@jbwarner8626 "His name was Adam." I really, really, really hate that episode.
@@HermanVonPetri I suppose he or she could have been. Maybe that's cool. Maybe they can help explain "the Klingon problem"? If anyone can do it, it's someone who thinks heaven is in Utah. No irreverence intended.
Better than looking like Chicago!
"What does God need with a starship?" Kirk's best line ever!
I think you mean the worst.
“Khaaaaan” is a better line. This one is easily Top 3, though, maybe even 2nd best.
@@monsterlairNo asking God why he needed a Starship just might be the most Kirk line ever. Only Kirk has the balls to go up to God and be like prove it.
A question, all should ask.
It is a very Roddenberry line. No, that's not a compliment.
While this one isn't high up on my list of most loved Trek movies, the line about how our pain helps make us who we are helped me to accept and embrace the pains and traumas in my life and make peace with them. Without them, I wouldn't be the man I am.
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Did you end up mindlessly following a Vulcan into a nebula?
Or was that just me??
@@jackcoleman5955 mistakes were made...
Ah, it's not that bad. The camping scenes are fun, Laurence Luckinbill is terrific as Sybok, the scene where he takes away Bones' pain is heartbreaking and when Kirk says he needs his pain is a really good line. We also get a cameo that was so good from David Warner that he's in the next film. lol.
yeah I like this movie. It has so many good character moments and I like to see the crew on shore leave camping.
It's the greatest film in Trek, ok that's exaggerating slightly but at least in the top 3!!
I don't think it was Christopher Plummer. Further upthread another poster said it was the old man from the "Kick The Can" segment of "Twilight Zone - The Movie".@@davidleedutton
@@davidleedutton Internet says it's Bill Quinn who played Mr. Leo Conroy as was said in the "Kick the Can" part of the Twilight Zone movie.
Agreed, I like all the og movies.
Kirk: I thought I was going to die.
Spock: Not possible. You were never alone.
[Kirk moves to hug Spock, and Spock stops him]
Spock: Please, Captain, not in front of the Klingons.
“Damn it, Bones, you're a doctor. You know that pain and guilt can't be taken away with a wave of a magic wand. They're the things we carry with us, the things that make us who we are. If we lose them, we lose ourselves. I don't want my pain taken away! I need my pain!”
This may be the best line of the movie actually. (Same comment from the deleted video)
Kind of jackhammers the point but yeah.
This scene really resonated with me after my mother died a couple of years after this movie came out.
That's a lesson I needed at the time. I hold it very close.
it's one of my personal favorite lines from all of Star Trek.
I always thought it was kind of a bummer of a line, actually. It's definitely the most Kirk thing to say, though. I'd rather keep the memories and lessons of life but not the pain that goes with it. At least that's the goal. 🤷♀
Cassie, since you adore Mr.Scott, you may like to hear about how James Doohan was quite the WWII hero. He was a Lt in the Canadian infantry. After training in England he landed on the Canadian's Juno beach on D-Day. He protected his men by taking out two snipers and led the way through a mine field. He later got hit by six bullets in an unfortunate incident from his own side, with one of the bullets going in his chest but being stopped by a cigarette case given him by his brother ! ( its so movie like ). He recovered back in England then trained as pilot for those tiny little slow moving spotter planes that fly over enemy territory, spotting whats a danger ahead and what to target. After being seen slaloming between telegraph poles to prove it could be done he was called the craziest pilot in the Canadian airforce. Mr. Scott - real life hero !
He also lost a finger in the war. You can sometimes catch a frame of it missing in some TOS scenes.
I read that he wore a prosthetic glove to disguise it sometimes.
I had a guided battlefield tour of Juno ( code name ), the Canadian forces landing beach. Its a weird feeling how close it is in practical history, being just a couple of generations removed.@@Jakyre1983
Whilst in gunnery school in England prior to D-Day he met a scottish officer on the same course. He used his experience of this voice to help create 'Scotty's accent.
I didn't know that. He did have a Celtic background himself though, being of Irish immigrant stock to Canada - and you know how those of Celtic heritage often maintain it well in the new world. Actually this triggered memory of the story behind John Cleese's 'Basil Fawlty' character. The Monty Python team had been filming on the south coast and some were put up in a hotel owned by a rude and eccentric former naval officer, who regarded anything guests needed as a nuisance. Most of the crew moved out, but Cleese and another remained to study the man ! Thus Fawlty was born.@@RichardBrake-fo4iw
The scene with Bones confronting the pain of his father dying hit Deforrest Kelly hard as his dad had actually died not long before the filming started.
Star Trek 6 The Undiscovered Country is up next. It is such a good movie!
And a great send-off for the original cast.
Sounds like a theme park or something.
@proteus404 Thank God for that !! 😳 I desperately need something to cleanse the cheesiness of this out of my system !!
Honestly not to be too mean here but i've seen all the original cast Star Trek films many times each ... ST V is the only one i've seen only once and once was enough i 'm only here because i do love the series and Cassie makes every reaction entertaining .
And agreed Star Trek 6 is an amazing movie marking the return of Director Nicolas Meyer who also directed Wrath of Khan
i'm so looking forward to that one .😃
'til then 🖖
After Wrath Of Khan, it's easily my next favourite Startrek movie! 😊
@@jaymac7203 I actually prefer it to TWOK.
The movie gets a lot of crap but has some of the best character moments of the bunch. The scene with McCoy and his father is a gut punch.
That may be DeForest Kelley's single best performance across the entire franchise.
And I agree, the character beats were great, especially between the Trio.
Kirk's speech as well about needing their pain, particularly if you come into the movies as a fan of the original series. His wife, two children, his brother and sister-in-law, Edith, he's a man with a lot of pain. Though I recall Spock easing his pain about Edith if not removing it at the end of that episode.
Nope, that wasn't Edith. "City" ends with Kirk saying "Let's get the he'll out of here." Spock melds with a sleeping Kirk at the end of "Requiem for Methuselah" and commands him to forget Rayna Kapek.
Must've blended together in my head over the years.
Yeah I like the movie but it needed a few more drafts. I think inserting the Klingon villains at the climax was a copout. The battle and the resolution should have been against "god". How do you beat a god-like being? It would have brought on some interesting tactics. Maybe Kirk could work together with the Klingons.
"V" has my favorite line in all of Star Trek, "What does God need with a Starship?" That saves the movie for me.
Yeah, that's really the only thing that makes this movie worth watching. Barely...
For me it’s “god, I liked him better before he DIED!”
My favorite line is "I don't want my pain taken away, I need my pain!" It says so much about Kirk's character.
Trust me Cassie,the next film in the franchise,the last with the original crew is a major step up from this one
The humanity of Star Trek is what makes it so endearing.
Kirk's speech to Bones of needing his pain needing his hurt to become who he is always spoke to me and it is my favorite part of this film. Glad she finally got back to the Star Trek series
Indeed!!! Profound words that have stuck with me my entire life.. When mastered and filtered (properly) pain is a precursor to wisdom 🙏
@@jnaught1358 Ecclesiastes 1:18 For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief.
As someone who had a personal relationship issue that was devastating, I can relate. It’s made me stronger and less prone to trusting just because someone says they care about you.
I love the friendship and brotherhood between the three of them.
One of my favorite quotes ever.. “I don’t want my pain taken away, I need my pain!!”
I'm glad you acknowledged the music of the great Jerry Goldsmith.
Fun fact: The female Yeoman who handed Kirk his jacket at 10:30 is William Shatner's daughter, Melanie.
Fun fact: The admiral who gave Kirk his orders is producer Harve Bennett.
Wowwwww, very cool tidbit
*FUN FACT 3: Uhura's Fan Dance was homage to the Fan Dance done in **_The Right Stuff_*
Fun fact: Sarek once said "Nobody puts Baby in the corner"
As I remember, in an early draft for this movie Dr.McCoy, knowing that Spock would look up earth camping rituals, had the ship's database alterd slightly as a prank. McCoy smiling as Spock says marshmellon is the only part of that plotline that made it into the movie.
It's a small thing, but it never gets mentioned when people discuss this film. Shatner is actually singing. He released albums during his career where he basically just talks the lyrics while the music is playing. I think he might have said in an interview that he had no confidence in his singing voice. But that was as fair a rendition of "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" as I have ever heard.
An interesting point of trivia -- when Scotty takes the reflective foil bag from Uhura, it's one of the few times you can really see his wound from WWII -- a missing middle finger. He was a Canadian soldier during the war, and lost the finger after having been hit by a German round. He tended to hide the injury during his acting career.
It was actually friendly fire from a nervous sentry, he was shot 6 times, 4 in the leg, 1 in the finger and 1 in the chest that was stopped by his cigarette case.
You get a real clear view of it in another episode she watched. Space Seed. When they gas the conference room that Khan is in and they run into the hallway and Kirk talks to Scotty it’s plain as day.
Also in Star Trek 3 when he hands Kirk the part he took from Excelsior.
How did Scotty get into WW2?? Was it time travel?
Good to know.
18:58 You gotta love the sign over the toilet: "DO NOT USE WHILE IN SPACEDOCK" 😂
"Not while the train is standing at the station." - Benny Hill
Wait for hook up to dump.
No one wants proton torpedos and Klingons floating around space dock.
I'd be more inclined to not want to use it whilst at warp.
@@carlosyoung1629 Can you imagine what damage a turd could do at warp speed? 🤔
Cassie is the friend that everybody needs. She just brings a smile to your face (and loves watching films!).🙂
On the planet, it was essentially a prison for a powerful alien stuck there and couldn't get past the barrier meant to keep him in place. Some ancient alien species locked him away there, but it became folklore and stories throughout history.
Satan cast out of heaven?
According to beta canon, it is yet another of the great and powerful beings encountered all over in Trek like Trelane. In this case though, the being stuck there was imprisoned there by the Q Continuum according to the beta canon.
@@SSPerfectChaosRCTI’ve the read trilogy that you’re referencing it’s pretty good.
I love how Cassie got to start singing her campfire song and just couldn't stop til she got to the end of a verse...lol
I've heard this song with far 'spicier' lyrics that the innocent ones Cassie was singing! lol
What is the name of that song?
@@markjuarez1791 It's called "The Quartermasters Stores". It dates back at least to WWI and It has very few lyrics, because a lot of it is made up by using your companions names or nicknames, to provide the verses, as Cassie demonstrated here with "Cassie" and "sassy" and depending on who you are with, can be clean or more risque/suggestive.
This one was directed by William Shatner and he did the best he could with what he was given. He had to deal with a very diminished budget that limited the special effects. This is especially evident in the space shots, the shooting model of the Enterprise was now ten years old and in need of repairs. ILM had done the special effects previously but were not available due to other commitments, another company came in to do them but had less time to get them done. They went as cheap as possible because of the budget being cut. Despite all of this, I still enjoy this film, the personal moments between the crew are great and we see a lot more of Uhura and other crew having more screen time. And yes, that is really Nichelle singing!
Loud and proud, I love Star Trek V. Deep concepts put to the silly test by our beloved characters. Spock's Brain, Shore Leave, Trouble with Tribbles, I Mudd, classic silly Star Trek. They can't (and shouldn't) be all Star Trek VI's - which you will love by the way)! Thanks for your show!
I completely agree. I love STV!
The scenes with McCoy/Sybok and Kirk/Sybok are the best in the film. “I NEED MY PAIN” speech is one of my all time favorites.
It's a line I reference a lot, particularly when someone else is advocating a motivated re-interpretation of their or some other's circumstances. However, I tend to keep its association with the film as low key as possible.
Good choice!@@gregchavez1534
Too bad Blizzard Entertainment ruined that line forever by having a power hungry emo creep reject the healing power of the Holy Light by crying “I *am* my scars!” like he’s Kylo Ren and he just lost his guyliner.
Absolutely cannot wait for you to watch Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
I really hope you watch the Director's Cut, as it's absolutely amazing!
I know you usually make a point of watching the Theatrical Cut of a movie first, but I hope you'll make an exception in the case of the next Star Trek film.
Can't wait for 6 either let's go.
Love 6! I saw it in the theaters.
The director's cut has that ridiculous Scooby Doo ending. The theatrical cut is better IMHO.
Yes, please don't let 5 keep you from watching 6. 6 is a mostly well-made adventure worthy of the big screen. 5 should have just been a TV special or something.
The theatercial cut is better. Because they added footage dosent mean it makes the film better. Theatercial cut is always the answer.
I can't wait for you to see Star Trek 6: The Undiscovered Country. It was the proper send off for James Kirk's Crew. They went out with bang!
This movie was originally supposed to end with Kirk fighting giant rock monsters (probably inspired by the creatures in the Old Testament), but it was scrapped when the movie's budget ran out. Galaxy Quest poked fun at this by having Jason Nesmith fight a rock monster.
Cassie! "Star Trek VI" was directed by Nicholas Meyer, who also directed "Wrath of Khan." When you watch, enjoy the opening overture, by a new composer, Cliff Eidelman. Really good stuff all around. :)
Which, along with Star Wars, was inspired by Gustav Holst’s The planets.
TUC's opening theme feels so much like "Mars"@@Fulschermd
Cassie, as a non-Trekkie, you cannot *imagine* the utter bewilderment that we experienced when this acid-trip of a film landed...
Roddenbury himself has described it as "apocryphal".
The ST5 novelization is a cornucopia of apocrypha including what I assume was post facto plotting for a back story to the campfire in which Bones hatches a nutty and ultimately inane plan to punk Spock by programming the food replicator to make him think marshmallows were called marshmelons. So much novelization drek in that time period. I even read "Encounter at Farpoint". The mind reels.
The movie poster in lobbies said, "Why are they putting seat belts in theaters this summer? STAR TREK V!"
@@Mr.Glidehook The one I always remember is
“The Enterprise is back. This time, have they gone too far?”
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@@JMUDoc Well, that's true enough 😂
@gregchavez1534 the novelization of Star Trek IV was bad, too. To break the $20.00 to exact change Kirk bought Candy. Spock ate a piece and was intoxicated...by chocolate!
Cassie’s reaction to Uhuras dance was exactly mine in the theatre.
Probably my favourite bit in the score is when everyone's on the bridge too distracted by what they're seeing, and the music seamlessly incorporates the Klingon theme as the sensors detect Klaa's ship.
I've always loved this movie and never understood the hate it's received. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy are the best.
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is one of my favorites. I know it's not popular, but this is a chill laid back film.
There's no real hard-nosed villain with a huge life or death scenario in this film. It's kind of a break from the more intensive films of Star Trek 2 and 3.
And I absolutely love the humor. Especially seeing Kirk, Spock, and Bones on their off time camping. -OG
It gets a lot of hate, some rightly so, like the terrible FX co they ended up having to use an inexperienced FX co. But I always watch and enjoy it, I call it a great Sunday afternoon film, relexed and watching lying down on the sofa.
I really think that Laurence Lukenbill played Sybok perfectly. He's intense, charismatic and surprisingly sincere despite his megalomania. I've come to really appreciate his performance.
@@HermanVonPetri Yes indeed, and I love the soundtrack as well. Shatner gets blame as director, some of it rightly, but I think I read some where there was behind the scenes stuff like budget etc… out of his control that did not help.
Spot on. There's so much to enjoy in this. One, a fascinating idea at the heart of the story, two, amazing performances by the cast, three, another of Jerry Goldsmith's beautiful, masterful scores, four, the first appearance of the assault phaser, and five, most importantly, without this film we never would have heard of marsh melons.
I love this flick.
I always saw it very much like Superman IV: the Quest for Peace. Neither that movie or STV:The Final Frontier were very good films, *but both plots were quintessential for their respective franchises.* An 80s movie about Superman had to address Superman getting rid of nuclear weapons. And Star Trek's quintessential script, especially given that its creator was a staunch atheist, had to take on the concept of God.
I give STV more credit than I ever have, *because they made a movie THAT COULD NOT HAVE A GOOD ENDING.* If they found God, it would 1) anger people and 2) not serve the vision of Star Trek's creator. If they _didn't_ find God, instead saying that he doesn't exist (which the movie does in subtext), they would still anger...the _same_ people. Because of that, it is easily my favorite of the lackluster Star Trek movies. And one day, it will be accepted in honor as it should be.
"I lost a brother once. I was lucky, I got him back."
And somewhere on Deneva Prime George Samuel Kirk is spinning in his grave.
The scene with Uhura singing relates back to the series and before that. There were various times is the show where she would sing while in the lounge. Before Star Trek she was singing on stage (I forget where) . They used her talent for the show.
A Vulcan can have telepathic powers, so it stands to reason they can clear people's minds of their pain. It's just not like a Vulcan to go around doing such a thing.
All Vulcans have Telepathic powers. They also have incredibly volatile emotions that can cause them great pain. They don't like experiencing their own emotions, let alone others.
Spock's brother was an outcast, a sociopath. He was Vulcan by species, not by practice.
@@3Rayfire That is why they are so dangerous to be around during Pon Farr.
Vulcan society likely provides a certain level of critical mass telepathically for supporting peace and logic once they tipped in that direction.
Jerry Goldsmith never fails to write an amazing score, loved that the theme was reused for the TNG show too
The music that plays as Kirk is climbing the mountain is simply gorgeous.
He was and remains the best of the best.
V is the only Star Trek movie other than the first to actually explore a sci fi concept. For that alone it's a worthy entry in the series.
Nice to see some positive words for V. It's certainly flawed, and the conclusion is a bit half-baked, but the concept is so good that I can't help but appreciate what it's trying to accomplish.
abiogenesis - 2
abiogenesis again and immortality - 3
time travel and ecology - 4
Immortality and the nature of reality - Generations
Time travel and alien contact - first contact
dont forget non-biological intelligence becoming self-aware and evolving beyond the physical - 1
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it certainly had potential to be better. if the campiness wasn't over the top and they managed to implement the "hell scene" originally planned then this movie would have been much better
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@@zfoxfire can't believe I forgot that one
"Row row row your boat" sung in a round is the meaning of life.
Given the absolute hell production for this was, the fact that we even got a watchable movie out of it is nothing short of a miracle.
Cassie, Laurence Luckinbill, who played Sybok, is the husband of Lucie Arnaz, the daughter of Lucille Ball, the grand dame of comedians! Ever watch I LOVE LUCY?
And Lucille Ball is the reason that Star Trek even exists as her studio, Desilu, was the one that produced the original series, and had faith in it even when the networks were hard to convince.
@@TheCkent100 The Arnazs are responsible for a LOT of sci-fi history. "The Time Element", which was essentially the pilot for "The Twilight Zone", aired as part of a live-drama anthology show that Desi produced and hosted.
Did not know that Luckinbill was married to Desi and Lucy's daughter!
Aww....she left out on YT when Scotty bumps his head.....funniest part of the film 😂
"I know this ship like the back of me hand."
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Whoever did your thumbnail design did a very good job of coloring your picture in the same style as the graphics of the movie poster. I don't know what filters he/she used, but the results are worth mentioning. Like you're part of that universe. (Never thought I would praise a thumbnail design, but here we are.)
Sha Ka Ree was put in the movie because they originally wanted Sean Connery to play Sybok. When he turned it down, Shatner came up with the name in honor of Sean Connery.
It wasn't so much that he turned it down, it's that he simply wasn't available. He was busy making some other film with Harrison Ford at the time....
Also, after Paramount slashed the budget they couldn't have afforded him, even if he were.
@@Ambaryerno Maybe with Connery they would have stumped up a bit more money.
I'm guessing even if Sean was available he'd have been too expensive.
The creature they encounter was trapped there by the Q and Kevin Uxbridges race. This is the being that granted powers to the characters in TOS “Where no man has gone before”.
Thank you for this experience watching along. Star Trek is something my dad and I did together for as long as I remember. The friendship of the trio hits hard.
Interesting. Source?
@@qwaurk985 It came up in one of the Expanded Universe books. Not canon, but an interesting idea.
@@qwaurk985I came across this also in a book series. There was a creature that other races could not defeat, so they trapped it in an energy barrier- that the Enterprise traversed in the episode described above.
Shatner’s original pitch was that Spock and Bones would join Sybok as well, leaving Kirk as the only one onboard not swayed by Sybok’s power. When they go to the planet, the entity would be revealed as Satan. After the reveal, Satan would kill Sybok and summon demonic rock monsters to drag Spock and Bones down to Hell. Kirk would then have to go to Hell itself to rescue his friends.
Nimoy and Kelley rejected the idea of their characters betraying Kirk, and Paramount objected to the overtly religious nature of the ending. Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry also objected, citing an established rule in Star Trek that religion does not exist in the Federation (“They’ve evolved past it.”)
I like where it landed, though it would have been MUCH better had Spock n McCoy pretended to be loyal to Sybok…
What a hot mess of a movie, but still better than 99% of modern cinema.
Fun fact: Sha Ka Ree was named after Sean Connery, who was the first choice to play Sybok (but was busy with _Last Crusade_ )
He won't do Star Trek, but he will do a movie called Zardoz in that terrible outfit the costume designer put him in.
“Well don’t just stand there God a busy man” is my favorite line in movie history. It’s one I’ve even use at my church.
"What are ya standing around for? Do you not know a jail break when you see one!?!?"
I hated this movie like most everyone else, despite the nod to Midnight Oil, but I confess that this delivery by James Doohan made me chuckle out loud in the theater along with most everyone else. And its on par with the quote you cited. Cheers.
@@gregchavez1534 I will never say it’s a perfect movie part of the problem this movie had was that there was a writer strike at the time, so that why it does fall apart sometimes. But it’s definitely the most quotable Star Trek movie, and in my opinion the funniest aster Star Trek 4
@@rh1242 I have a difficult time putting any kind of positive spin on this one, but they did manage to drop in some good lines here and there. But even the "I need my pain" speech only gained respect once distance from the plot was achieved in the minds of fans. Maybe we can blame this on first-time director William "I directed a few TJ Hookers" Shatner?
It was a bad move, for sure, but it's unfair to put it all on Bill. ST4 worked so well because ST2 and 3 took such a toll on the collective hearts of the legions of Boomer and GenX Trekkie-dom.
Stakes were raised!! Brilliantly orchestrated tension gave everyone nosebleeds and sinus headaches!! Savek got a facelift!! So many once-beloved TV stars from the early 80's kept trying to blow up the Enterprise that Kirk went ahead and did it himself!!
After all that, we the audience were desperate for some feelgood marine mammal re-population, Spock-interpreted profanity and madcap chase sequences through a nuclear wessel and brain surgery ward. The executive team behind ST4 read the populace well, so much so that people who has no previous interest in Star Trek bought tickets. Embarrassingly abundant success.
All of which spelled disaster for ST5, no matter who ended up directing. Knowing that there was nothing left to milk from the Kahn Trilogy, the creative staff was burdened with charting a fresh path for a greying cast while satisfying what had to have been unruly expectations from studio A&R types and casual movie fans to remake the comedic magic of ST4.
Finally, the acceptable but low-key recovery that followed with ST6 set the standard for the disappointingly unambitious TNG films. Never again would a ST story follow a multi-film arc.
This movie was a major disappointment to me after the highs of the first 4 movies (yes, I even liked the first one), but watching this reaction now I am reminded of how many good lines of dialogue there were. It wasn't a total loss, just not as good as the other movies. And the slashed budget did them no favors.
@@rh1242 We'll have to quibble on quotability rank (2, 3, 1 -- You are the Kirk unit! -- 4, 6, 5, IMO) but as more distance accrues from my abject disappointment in '89, I find more to like.
Once on the old Tom Snyder Tomorrow Show they did a Star Trek episode. On it were several cast members and Harlan Ellison. Harlan said "What if the Enterprise went to a planet and found God but it was really the devil?"
This one was as close as they got.
I love your positivity. Star Trek 5 wasn't bad, definitely NOT the worst Star Trek film. It's cute, a little silly. Because of Star Trek 4's upbeat nature, they wanted to continue the trend with this, and it had mixed results... Nonetheless, this movie still had some great moments. Kirk explaining how he needed his pain and how it made us who we were was actually a powerful and very relevant statement. Anyway, you do not want to miss Star Trek 6. The Director from The Wrath of Khan, Nicholas Meyer returns for it. Can't wait for your next video!
Was going to comment on “Heaven looks like Utah!” but lots have gotten there first.
Cassie made me burst out laughing with her her reaction at 4:45! I had honestly never paid much attention before, but her stunned look & hand gesture were priceless! We love you Cassie! 🤣🤣🤣
I have to admit, Cassie's look of bewilderment, her mouthing the word three, followed by the gesture made me crack up laughing too. She has wonderful comedic timing.
My Favorite thing about "Star Trek 5" is the musical soundtrack. I really enjoyed it.
I just went ahead and signed up with Patreon for the first time for this! So glad you didn't skip V! This was my childhood favorite movie and remains an all time nostalgia fav. I love The Final Frontier and I will die on this hill!
You’re not alone! Yeah it has its flaws but it also has so many good things
Of all the Trek I've probably seen McCoy's story stuck with me the most.
This definitely top 3 greatest Trek movies of all time
Is V the greatest Trek movie of all time? Objectively, probably not. But gosh nabbit if it isn't fun! And to say it's the "worst" would be to pretend the JJverse never happened (which would be for the better, IMO) If you ask me, V rivals The One With the Whales for comedy! Long live The Final Frontier and Cassie Popcorn! Qa'pla!
Great reaction as always. I know a lot of ST fans don't like this one but I didn't think it was bad. There are some powerful scenes. "I need my pain" and "I have found my place" and "I lost a brother once..." I love how much you like these!
8:41 Mark! In our music classes, the teachers had us sing it, but when camping in the "BSA" we never whistled, hummed, or sang. Too tired!
Star Trek VI is among the strongest Trek films. I think I might even like it more than Wrath of Kahn, in some ways. I can't wait for you to see it!
I also struggle on whether I like VI or II better...usually it is 6 by a nose. Both were written and directed by Nicholas Meyer. I'll stop talking to avoid accidentally giving away a spolier and look forward to seeing Cassie's reaction to 6!
The music in the beginning is from the Star Trek The Next Generation TV series. I'd highly recommend it. I never was much of a fan of Kirk and the original crew (a few episodes like "The Doomsday Machine" were good), but TNG was a work of art.
The music in the beginning is from _Star Trek The Motion Picture._ It was recycled for the TV series. "Mirror, Mirror" is a great episode.
Many years ago, my university's film society included this movie as one of their "surprise" features for their annual sci-fi movie marathon. The atmosphere at the movie marathon was always pretty relaxed, with people occasionally shouting jokes at the screen, etc. So when the movie started, people started booing when they realized what movie it was, especially at the title card.
But the best part was when Kirk was climbing El Capitan. As you saw, he's climbing freehand up the cliff, and when he started losing his grip, everyone started chanting, "FALL! FALL! FALL!" Of course, he falls, and then everyone started chanting, "DIE! DIE! DIE!" Then Spock saves him, and everyone starts booing.
A moment later, the movie stops, and everyone is wondering what's going on. It turned out the whole thing was a practical joke, and the actual surprise feature was Star Trek VI. When that one started a few minutes later and people realized what it was, cheering abounded.
“Heaven looks like Utah.” -Cassie. Lol
Best line from the film: "What does God need with a starship?"
You'll love the next film. Undiscovered Country is the best of them.
Well, not the best, but more than makes up for the things that THIS film wasn't.
@@duanevpI dunno…. I LOVE Wrath of Khan, but ST6 just has it all: intrigue, action, humor, big stakes, a great villain, everyone gets their moment, and lots of quotable dialogue. It’s really dependent on my mood on the day I am watching them whether I prefer TWOK or TUC. It’s a testament to the two films that they are both just so good.
Also: ST5 has aged better than expected. If they ever could do a George Lucas style special edition/remaster of it with cleaned up effects, I think it would be even more appreciated.
"Heaven looks like Utah." The opening you just made for so many Mormon jokes... LMAO!! Seriously, tho, it was cool seeing your reaction to this one too. Yeah, Jerry Goldsmith was quite the soundtrack artist... too bad he's no longer with us though his son seems to be following in his footsteps. Looking forward to seeing your reaction to Trek VI! (My fave)
I had this reaction playing off to the side with the sound muted, and I looked up about 20 or 25 times, and I never saw her smiling like in the other Star Trek movies she's reacted to. I don't remember caring for this movie much, and feeling like Star Trek 6 was sort of a redemption for this movie.
Fun fact: Sean Connery was tapped to play the character of Sybok. That's where they got the name Shakaree. It's a play on Connery's name.
You're welcome.
Wow, I had no idea. He would have had the gravitas I felt Luckenbill lacked, if perhaps not a credible brother for Nimoy.
"Heaven looks like Utah." - Great!
I always loved the "Do not use while in spacedock" sign on the toilet.
Crossover index:
4:26 Star Wars
4:42 Total Recall (!!!)
5:05 Star Trek Nemesis
12:23 Master & Commander
13:40 Gene Rodenberry’s acid trip(???)
19:20 Star Trek 2
26:10 Star Trek 1
26:32 All Star Trek!! ♥️
29:15 Ghostbusters
I met George takei at a convention a few years ago. What a nice fella..I commented upon his great voice and ventured the thought that he'd do well to cover some Sinatra songs..upon which he immediately broke into new York, new York...
..what a guy.!!
I had forgotten that this one came out a few months after my son was born. 35 years goes by so fast.
Your reaction to the... uh... "three" was perfect! 🤣
I was not prepared for that. Ended up spitting coffee all over my tablet screen!
It's stuff like that that makes Cassie one of my favorites. Also the cute way she mispronounces stuff and maintains that sweetness despite seeing some horrible things on this channel.
It's hard out here for a simp
Oh THATS why she held up three fingers. LOL.
I can't wait for her to watch Total Recall!
As a McCoy fan, DeForest's acting bumped this movie up many points higher than it would of otherwise had. His acting was pitch perfect.
Nemoy was also amazing. Some of his lines made me think of Q vs Spock.
The trio worked amazingly well together. Also Scotty is pitch perfect.
There was some serious flaws, but like many people pointed out, there was a lot of great character moments in this film.
My favorite line in this movie is when Scotty said. "I know this ship like the back of my hand." And then he turned around and hit his head on a beam.
"It wasn't terrible, just a little weird", that's probably the best description of the movie. 2 things really hurt this movie, first was a lack of a proper budget which led to some shotty effects. Second, any script that tries to combine science and faith is always .......... tricky, shall we say
That's one thing Doctor Who does very well. It's subtle and the audience has to think about it.
Paramount wanted Industrial Light and Magic for the effects, but it was 1989 and ILM was already booked solid on both Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and Ghostbusters II. So they cheaped out, and it shows.
The Great Barrier is literally just a solarized negative of some ink squirted in water. Like, that's almost Ed Wood level 😑
Cassie, I applaud you for going into this one with an open mind despite so many of us telling you how much we dislike it. Good for you! It's great that you noticed the term "borgas frat" from Scotty. Now I've never read or heard any confirmation of this, but I have always speculated that that was a very deliberate choice. In the original series episode "I, Mudd", Scotty uses that term as an expletive directed at Mudd, who was portrayed by Roger C. Carmel. Carmel died during the production of Star Trek V and I can't help but wonder if that was their way of honoring him. It would have been a very Trek thing to do.
That is an intriguing tidbit, and I think your idea sounds very plausible. Thanks for sharing it!
Every Trek fan loves Star Trek V!!!
I totally agree with the tie in with Star Wars. Sand people, the bar, the hood reveal. It was different from the other Star Trek scenarios.
this movie was so under-rated, and it's better than several of the other original cast films that were made. Very powerful and thought provoking in many parts of the film. I'm glad I saw it in the theater.
As weird as you thought it was, it could've been alot worse! There was a deleted scene on the director's edition DVD where it showed a terrible looking rock monster. Apparently the "God" entity formed the rock monster to attack our heroes in the original version of the film before it was scrapped in favor of the final cut we eventually got.
Everyone seems to lay the blame of the movie's unpopularity at Shatner's feet. To be honest, I think the blame should fall on the execs at Paramount at the time, who weren't willing to fork over the money needed for proper special effects. Plus, ILM wasn't available at the time to handle the VFX, so the production team were forced to hire another company to do the effects for the film.
Then that idea found it's way into Galaxy Quest, which might be a fun follow up after STVI
@@Jarsia Genius! Wait.. she saw Galaxy Quest already. Was 11 months ago :D and his comment disappeared. I guess he just realized :D Happens to me too.
@@BattleAngelFan99 actually I didn't. But I'll check it out now that I know. Probably a ton of references she missed.
I'm still seeing my comment, but youtube is weird these days
I don't think I've seen this since 1989. I remember that "Our pain makes us who we are" message.
This one is a guilty pleasure of mine. As far as star trek movies go, it isn't anywhere near the bottom (generations) its campy enough that its lack of production value and corniness gives it a charm. And the delivery of "what does God need with a starship?" makes it one of my favorite lines in all the films.
The Yeoman at 10:32 handling Kirk's jacket is Melanie Shatner. William Shatner's youngest baby.
Your comment about this being the wild west reminded me of when STAR TREK was first pitched to the netwok it was described as WAGON TRAIN ìn space that was a program on TV at the time set in the old west
The planet shah con ree? was named after Sean Connery who was asked to be Sybok but turned it down
Can’t imagine why he turned it down 🤔
I think he was doing another movue at thesame time@@mattx449
I think he was doing another movie@@mattx449
From Vger to Mt Sulu to Utah, I'm glad I've been on this journey with you.
Ro Roddengarten really knows how to tell a story!
The guy who did this music (and the first Trek film) also did music for Poltergeist and Alien, and was the reason you were so involved in those. Watch Twilight Zone the Movie, Gremlins, and Supergirl for his other movie musical treats. Also watch Hellraiser (1 & 2), Evil Dead 2, the Fly, and the Blob for exceptional horror. The Goonies is also a good wholesome one.
Cassie, just an FYI on the Canuck angle.... FYI that the actor that plays scotty is a Canadian D-Day veteran. One of his hands was wounded they don't show it because he lost a finger or fingers.
This is my favorite Star Trek movie of all time. I've seen everyone in the theater when they were first released.
BLASPHEMY! Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons was wrong. The world's only working phaser was used twice not once. The first time it was used to prevent William Shatner from making another album. The second time was used to prevent him from directing another movie!
@@TheMrPeteChannelHow do we prevent you from making more comments?
@@NathanJasper😂 find that working phasers friend!
The BEST
Fun fact (or possibly rumor depending on who you ask) - they wanted Sean Connery for the role of Sybok. When he turned it down they inserted an easter egg into the script... Sha Ka Ree.
This has over the years become one of my favorite of the original star trek films. Like the motion picture my first time watching was not so favorable. I must say as I got older my opinion of them changed,as I now enjoy all six movies for different reasons. Having lost my Dad recently Dr. McCoy's scene with his dad will always make me very emotional. But all in all I love the lighthearted friendship shown between Kirk,Spock,and Bones. Star trek is at it's best when exploration of the unknown is at the center of the stories. All that considered Captain Kirk has run into many situations like this(with advanced aliens)in the og tv series so his skepticism was warranted. Also zapping Kirk for simply asking for proof was not the act of a loving creator. Thus proving this being was not God as Spock so eloquently put it. Also this movie reminded me of the star trek audio novels that I love listening to. Anyways great reaction. Very much looking forward to Star trek 6 reaction and beyond 😊_V(Live long and prosper).