These Vtubers Thought We Forgot Their Dark Past

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  • @AzureKyle
    @AzureKyle Рік тому +569

    The thing is, they don't consider the ones they threaten and harass as people. That's how they justify harassing and threatening them.

    • @Chaos89P
      @Chaos89P Рік тому +52

      It's called "dehumanizing," and I'll admit I'm guilty of it when it comes to Twitter freaks and similar cultists, if the words I tend to use regarding them is "dehumanizing."

    • @antonischatz.2133
      @antonischatz.2133 Рік тому

      @@Chaos89P Those Twitter freaks are mentally "challenged" (καθυστερημένα).

    • @FlocAud4914
      @FlocAud4914 Рік тому +19

      ​@@Chaos89P "Twitter freaks" is rather a symbolic term used by Silvervale to point out harassers and stand up against them.

    • @horusfalcon
      @horusfalcon Рік тому +17

      Yup. De-humanize your target first, then anything you do to them is "justified". It's been like this throughout human history. It's depressing when you conjure with it overmuch.

    • @andrewreynolds912
      @andrewreynolds912 Рік тому

      @@FlocAud4914 exactly

  • @jaidora
    @jaidora Рік тому +366

    To quote a line from South Park, “if you constantly make yourself the victim you can justify being terrible”.

    • @waterking74
      @waterking74 Рік тому +35

      Thats the definition of a Twitter freak ☻

    • @jeffumbach
      @jeffumbach Рік тому +13

      When you're raised under the lie that nothing is really your own fault.

    • @MilesProwerTailsFox
      @MilesProwerTailsFox Рік тому +3

      That's literally all of Twitter users

    • @lukemoore3289
      @lukemoore3289 Рік тому +1

      What episode is that from

    • @MilesProwerTailsFox
      @MilesProwerTailsFox Рік тому

      @@lukemoore3289 season 25 episode 26

  • @symptomofsouls
    @symptomofsouls Рік тому +634

    I will stand by this, the best, most wholesome content creators think they are shit people. The worst content creators think they are the greatest people to have ever lived.

    • @humrH2360
      @humrH2360 Рік тому +116

      Because reasonable people know that there is always room to improve.
      Terrible people think that they don't need to improve and that they're perfect by default.

    • @regalvas
      @regalvas Рік тому +10

      I think that is beyond false, and part of the logic some of these people use to justify their targeting of some Vtubers, and gives the understanding that people that put in the effort will be bastards.
      Bad people aren't restricted to the talented, wholesome or even the weird.

    • @kuraiaku2997
      @kuraiaku2997 Рік тому +51

      @@regalvas What are you even talking about? You're completely missing the point from the comment here, or maybe English is not your first language so it's hard to comprehend?

    • @RaidenRkD
      @RaidenRkD Рік тому +29

      I think that's one thing I like about them. They can be very, very talented at what they do, and instead of letting it get to their heads, they still insist that they have room to improve. They may be self-critical and humble to a fault, but better that than being arrogant about things not worth boasting about.

    • @Between_Scylla_and_Kharybdis
      @Between_Scylla_and_Kharybdis Рік тому +18

      It’s often like that: smart people rarely call themselves smart, but the dumbest ones will almost always claim they are smarter than average and to know better

  • @TeiSato
    @TeiSato Рік тому +284

    7:54 "This continues to prove my theory that Vtubers are just E-girls with an extra step."
    So..... They are V-girls?

    • @yolkman9000
      @yolkman9000 Рік тому +25

      V-Girls is a thing now? What's next? V-Boys? V-Man? V-Woman?

    • @humrH2360
      @humrH2360 Рік тому

      Rev's observation of how the kind of insults they immediately go to always pertains to sex is especially telling. It tells everyone that the only thing these harpies pride themselves on is sexual promiscuity, even though such a point of pride just . means that they are vapid hedonists who just blindly chase after pleasure and validation from people who don't care about them.

    • @manusiabumi7673
      @manusiabumi7673 Рік тому +23

      ​@@yolkman9000 pretty sure v boys and v men (aka male vtubers) exist

    • @НаранНемеев-э2ъ
      @НаранНемеев-э2ъ Рік тому +41

      Next step is He-Man

    • @imfabulous3707
      @imfabulous3707 Рік тому +5

      Just a miserable attempt at adapting to changing times

  • @BloodrealmX
    @BloodrealmX Рік тому +313

    "kill your local lolicon" That is literally inciting widespread violent crime. And so is the post they were retweeting! People need to be held accountable for this.
    These people are the ones who literally celebrate every time they drive someone to end themselves. I'm glad that person feels like nobody cares about them because they're probably correct due to being an absolutely terrible human being.

    • @LyraPyxisVT
      @LyraPyxisVT Рік тому +14

      The funny thing is, they obviously don't know what Loli is, a loli is a adult that looks like a child, so they aren't even children

    • @Kittenlover113355
      @Kittenlover113355 Рік тому

      @@LyraPyxisVT lolis are characters meant to look like children but with the excuse that "oh theyre actually not minors". babes thats a cop out. those media companies know full well what they are doing, they are catering to pedos/creepy men with issues.

    • @darkzeroprojects4245
      @darkzeroprojects4245 Рік тому +4

      ​@@LyraPyxisVT
      Thing is they see only the child characters

    • @LyraPyxisVT
      @LyraPyxisVT Рік тому +3

      @@darkzeroprojects4245 but the thing is they would be wrong, they are making a fuss over a character thats not even technically a child nor the person, all these people need to actually know and understand what the term means before saying false info, cause now they just look dumb

    • @darkzeroprojects4245
      @darkzeroprojects4245 Рік тому +4

      @@LyraPyxisVT I know, but they still proceed with "It looks like one and child like so still you're a p$Fdo"
      Which sadly had to deal with.
      They want to dictate who does what out of a mere thought crime.
      And taking the "Art being from the mind of the creator" stuff to seriously thinking it means they're this or that.

  • @CrowYaeger
    @CrowYaeger Рік тому +525

    This Lolicon = Pedophile thing is getting way too far out of hand

    • @XicorVT
      @XicorVT Рік тому +115

      yep and its all westerners

    • @Anugrah_Amriza
      @Anugrah_Amriza Рік тому +1

      Was banned from 2 Discord Servers for stating that. Well mostly by American people who have power abusing roles.
      Not surprised that most of the servers that banned me is full of hypocritical Americans tbh

    • @dannyhiggins8864
      @dannyhiggins8864 Рік тому

      Yep westerners ruin everything

    • @dylives7667
      @dylives7667 Рік тому +45

      The same with the istaphobe label.
      I'm done.

    • @kylegraham3192
      @kylegraham3192 Рік тому +45

      Jesus Christ would it kill these people for ones to look up the definition of the word “LOLI”?

  • @ballachmona
    @ballachmona Рік тому +86

    I try to avoid drama as much as possible, but this is just…
    If these “VTubers” can’t produce content and just spend their whole “career” tweeting and spreading toxicity… what’s the point?
    I did my own art, learned to rig, wrote my own music, and did it all for free. Took me about two months, but that’s because I’m slow. I upload daily now.
    What excuse do these people have to be “tba” after years of just tweeting out violence and toxicity? How can they call themselves “VTubers” if they don’t have any content?
    I’d say put your money where your mouth is, but you don’t even need money to start. I sure didn’t.

    • @Dkgow
      @Dkgow Рік тому +8

      This is my assumption and opinion.
      They do it because they know they can get the basic simps who just like the anime model to give them things without needing to do anything else. It's easy living when all they have to do it make a few "test runs"

    • @megatron8449
      @megatron8449 Рік тому

      @@Dkgow indeed.

    • @onidaaitsubasa4177
      @onidaaitsubasa4177 Рік тому +5

      Honestly, if they just make toxic tweets for years and call themselves a Vtuber, but never debut or make content, it seriously makes me wonder if they are AI created by a lazy person, cause even if they are AI, they still should've made their debut by now, after all, if Neuro Sama can stream and make content and be a real Vtuber, then there's no excuse for other AI that say they are Vtubers, not to do the same.

  • @CherryCharm2001
    @CherryCharm2001 Рік тому +114

    Why are people treating drawings as if their real? Also they do realize that if certain content gets banned what makes them think the shit they like won't get banned either?

    • @Anugrah_Amriza
      @Anugrah_Amriza Рік тому +23

      that's what I say to the Discord Servers that banned me. They banned me not because I am wrong, but because I am right

    • @KakfkaLover
      @KakfkaLover Рік тому +3

      So true bestie! Imagine getting offended over a simple drawing. This comment is about Briget being trans now and black anime edits by the way

    • @Anugrah_Amriza
      @Anugrah_Amriza Рік тому +10

      @@KakfkaLover Black edits are just racist in general while Bridget trans issue.. it depends on the person

    • @uhagi6720
      @uhagi6720 Рік тому +11

      @@KakfkaLover As someone who's black, I find black edits to be extremely cringe when the person who did the edit claims they are 'Fixing' the character.

    • @shadi2962
      @shadi2962 Рік тому +1

      @@KakfkaLover Only a transphobe would say Bridget is trans, given that the character is a guy that was abused and harrassed by his parents and the people around him into being called a girl. Someone who actually cared about transgender people wouldn't call transgender therapy the same thing as literal abuse.

  • @regalvas
    @regalvas Рік тому +419

    Remember folks, streamers and Vtubers are people and people can be terrible bastards.
    These are just more examples of those that can only feel good by attacking others.

    • @Unapologeticweeb
      @Unapologeticweeb Рік тому +26

      And that's why contracts exist to keep there talent in line it's why hololive is suceeding and everyone else is failing
      The problem with western vtubers is that they have too much freedom any manager would have intervened if these vtweeters where part of a professional agency

    • @Sungura_Kaiser
      @Sungura_Kaiser Рік тому +6

      Something I have to remind myself and others of whenever someone says Snuffy is a "chill" person.

    • @spitfire7170
      @spitfire7170 Рік тому +19

      @@Unapologeticweeb yup, the western ones treat it like a hobby with promise of easy money when it should be a serious job as a pro entertainer

    • @HenshinFanatic
      @HenshinFanatic Рік тому +3

      I don't understand how this is newsworthy. This is just regular human behaviour, use people to their own advantage and if "betrayal" (that term is used loosely as how can someone betray someone or something they never cared about) ever becomes more beneficial they do so the picosecond it benefits them. That's how most people are and anyone who genuinely thinks otherwise have merely been lucky to have never experienced reality.

    • @spitfire7170
      @spitfire7170 Рік тому +4

      @@HenshinFanatic idolization, this kind of thing is older than anyone still alive, takes new forms every now and then but never goes away

  • @StarSlash16
    @StarSlash16 Рік тому +225

    I swear to god this whole loli being map thing remind me of the good ol'day where parent accused shooter game turning their kid into a school shooter or whatever horrible things they thought of, how the cycle repeat itself lmao

    • @_B.C_
      @_B.C_ Рік тому +25

      That was drama spearheaded by Barbra Bush if I recall.

    • @kidloco
      @kidloco Рік тому +39

      They are still doing... just happen new shooter, here we gonna hear, video games are the blame and rock because they always blame them

    • @Asertix357
      @Asertix357 Рік тому

      Meanwhile the UN is directing its members to recognize pedophilia as a human right and change their laws in accordance to such.

    • @strategicperson95
      @strategicperson95 Рік тому +24

      ​@@kidloco yeah, always ignore the REAL Problems and blame it on anything else because the adults can't be wrong in how they're running things.

    • @natsudragneel-ir7sr
      @natsudragneel-ir7sr Рік тому +12

      @@kidloco they actually know the real problem, they just get paid to say otherwise.

  • @Khunterrace
    @Khunterrace Рік тому +73

    Hating in the internet is a common thing, no matter how petty and pathetic it is. Also, the moment "sexualized" was mentioned I just laughed my ass off due to how classic excuse that was to cancel someone, lol. That thing literally said "Stop being such a white knight", bruh, that thing has its personal justice and tries to hit someone with it thinking it's righteous, bRuuUuuUHHhH!

  • @KeebeThePlush
    @KeebeThePlush Рік тому +479

    Every community has a few bad apples and this realm is definitely no exception

    • @Just_a_guy_who_likes_stuff
      @Just_a_guy_who_likes_stuff Рік тому +8

      Yep.

    • @tookiie
      @tookiie Рік тому +46

      Those communities with an entire orchard of bad apples 🗿

    • @Ren21798
      @Ren21798 Рік тому +25

      en vtuber not just few rotting apples. its straigh up rotting barrel with few good apples

    • @SergioLeonardoCornejo
      @SergioLeonardoCornejo Рік тому +9

      Bad apples are the ones one must gatekeep.

    • @Tahu33446
      @Tahu33446 Рік тому +14

      I actually never noticed the bad apples at all until the nux drama. Then I started paying attention and especially to more of what Rev covered in terms of the bad takes people had. Like vtubers were like my oasis from the insanity that way to many regular streamers get into especially when they start meeting each other or their chats try to start crap.
      But then that drama happened and unfortunately the curtain was raised on the back ground drama of vtubing. And then because I watch rev and occasionally scroll thru Twitter the pure insanity that I can come across just gives me a head ache.

  • @TurtleChad1
    @TurtleChad1 Рік тому +372

    These aren't real vtubers. These are what we call v-tweeters.

  • @ReaperMain
    @ReaperMain Рік тому +57

    These select vtubers who use twitter like this play their "online character" like a double sided sword and are so toxic.
    (One side is sharpened to attack others, while the other side is dull to victimize themselves). Pretty two faced if you ask me.

  • @SomeDumyOnYouTube
    @SomeDumyOnYouTube Рік тому +22

    These "vtubers" will never be actual good ones which is why they resort to vtweeting pointless Twitter drama since that's the most relevancy they'll ever amount to

  • @ItsAZues
    @ItsAZues Рік тому +20

    "Clout roach." So ironic, I think I'm gonna take that for future use.

  • @AzzRushman
    @AzzRushman Рік тому +21

    The thing about internet addicts is that they don't see strangers like humans. They don't show them the basic level of respect a stranger deserves, nor do they even attempt to keep their expectations on point when meeting new people.
    They can't imagine that a username is linked to an actual person behind a computer or a phone, they believe internet strangers are some kind of good/evil entities floating around for them to admire/hate.
    The thing is, the only thing separating a stranger from an online friendly acquaintance, is just a bit of good old talk and mutual respect.

  • @greenlionguardian
    @greenlionguardian Рік тому +110

    Zion's situation is a borderline legal problem for Anycolor.

    • @RWhite_
      @RWhite_ Рік тому +11

      Theoretically, maybe. But realistically, it's absolutely not a problem for them. They can safely ignore it.

    • @miaugato93
      @miaugato93 Рік тому +3

      ikr? The right collection of evidence can accuse both Anycolor and Nijisanji of corporate harassment

    • @crimsonachan6676
      @crimsonachan6676 Рік тому +4

      If anyone's going to have legal problems, it's her. She REPEATEDLY said and did things she wasn't supposed to do. They seemed to be mostly minor infractions, but I doubt anyone else at Nijisanji was getting into this much trouble. Riling up the Twitter freaks was the last straw. And there's no question that she did any of this because that document everyone points to as proof Nijisanji are the bad guys admits she did those things, not to mention there's literally a video clip of her talking about how she doesn't care about the Hogwarts Legacy controversy. Like, what did she think was going to happen? That her bosses would go "You've caused potential problems for us several times over the course of a few months, you made our entire agency and everyone in it the target of a harassment campaign, advertisers are pulling out because of the bad publicity, but you triggered the terminally online weirdos, so you get a promotion!"? A company isn't going to look out for employees that don't respect the rules that are there for the good of the company and everyone in it.
      And we're supposed to take her side because...why? She made some allegations without any proof or anyone backing up her story? Why should we believe someone who can't follow the same rules a hundred other people follow without problems? You think everyone would learned something from Hellena Taylor, but apparently not.

    • @Kittenlover113355
      @Kittenlover113355 Рік тому +4

      @@crimsonachan6676 she made mistakes, but she was absolutely treated unfairly by incompetent management. For example what happened with genshin. things would have been a lot better for everyone if niji management wasnt such a shitshow

  • @0rriAndroid
    @0rriAndroid Рік тому +44

    Hope when Kyu gets back to streaming, she does gangbusters in viewership
    The people that harassed her were so unbelievably jealous

    • @yolkman9000
      @yolkman9000 Рік тому +3

      Who's Kyu

    • @Fleet_of_fog
      @Fleet_of_fog Рік тому +3

      If thats her her channel name what is the full name of the channel?

    • @megahand221
      @megahand221 Рік тому +1

      @@Fleet_of_fog i suppose they are referring to Kyutto, the vtuber succubus that was a loli that was harassed on Jan 2021, tbh idk if she's in hiatus or something

    • @ootdega
      @ootdega Рік тому +1

      Too bad Kyuotto abandoned the loli model and has since deleted the post announcing such. Wasn't exactly a gesture of good faith. Some people think the whole thing was a grift.

    • @0rriAndroid
      @0rriAndroid Рік тому +2

      @@ootdega It wasn't a grift. She always talked about wanting a "full power" model beforehand and after she started using it more and more, some people kinda gave her shit about it so she ended up only associating the old model with negativity
      The deleting tweets stuff, she got it in her head that the only way Twitter's algorithm would boost her at all was if she only had tweets dating back like 6 months or so.

  • @vectory674
    @vectory674 Рік тому +29

    People can be horrible. Justified or not. Just remember that you never truly know someone on the internet. But the internet will never forget those who try to harm others

  • @SnaksiXD
    @SnaksiXD Рік тому +22

    "I've convinced myself that no one cares about me"
    Proceeds to QRT the "good" reply

  • @anaproject903
    @anaproject903 Рік тому +35

    Idk man, it really isn’t hard to be either accepting or indifferent about other people’s kinks/opinions in general, the fact people make a show about not being capable of that baseline will forever be hilarious to me.

  • @Kaimine08
    @Kaimine08 Рік тому +21

    I will say Zaion made a lot of mistakes in her short career.
    I will also say it was the fault of management for not managing her and trapping her into the position she was in. I would say Zaion's downfall was 80% NijiEN vs. 20% Zaion. Without someone to manage Zaion while also pushing her into a corner, it was pretty much expected that she would have to change everything to make it work and considering she's expected to stream every day, that was a borderline impossible feat.Zaion went in with a plan of how she was going to do things, she knew what worked, but NijiEN rejected every plan she had AFTER she had joined the company even though she basically listed her plans before she joined. Zaion made mistakes, but that will happen as she was Indie for over a year. The transition is bumpy. Heck, when I first started my career, I made a ton of mistakes but my supervisor saw potential in me and to this day, I am still employed with the company. I can sympathize with Zaion in that respect. Maybe Zaion is better off Indie, but even then, I'm sure she could have made it in NijiEN if the company would have given her the respect she deserved.
    As for the main topic, vtubers should not get involved with these sorts of dramas in the first place. It tarnished Finana's reputation and it will tarnish other vtuber's reputations as well. It is a bad look all around. I mean, just imagine if Hololive shittalk Rushia as she was being terminated? It would have tarnished their reputations. I will admit, I was put off by how cold Hololive was to the whole Rushia drama, but seeing how it was employed in Zaion's drama, I can really see now why Hololive basically stayed Silent on her fall from grace and it was a good decision overall. Even if it left a bad taste in my mouth.

    • @DistractedGlobeGuy
      @DistractedGlobeGuy Рік тому

      A couple of them did shit-talk Mikeneko. Flare and Fubuki laughed about her suicide attempt just a couple hours after she was fired-needless to say, I no longer view those two as respectable content creators because of the way they acted. All they had to do was shut the fuck up like Watame did, who was sitting right next to them.

  • @Unapologeticweeb
    @Unapologeticweeb Рік тому +26

    Hololive looking at all there competition imploding

  • @SleepyRulu
    @SleepyRulu Рік тому +49

    The internet never forgets

  • @BlueLoveYT
    @BlueLoveYT Рік тому +28

    It's sad seeing twitter antis starting drama over fictional characters. It's so easy to ignore, yet they have a down bad fetish of engaging with content they hate.

    • @onidaaitsubasa4177
      @onidaaitsubasa4177 Рік тому +2

      Why is it these people are so upset about loli characters being sexualized, but have no problem with shows like dance moms, that dress actual little girls in flesh toned leotards. The message "Don't lewd the loli" is fine, but these people have taken the concept 5 steps way too far.

  • @tapuchris-cb9jy
    @tapuchris-cb9jy Рік тому +45

    Hypocrisy, thy name is Twitter Freaks!

  • @DangoRabbit
    @DangoRabbit Рік тому +42

    The second account is something else... I watched live as they helped a vtuber I follow (who is trans, is about to play Hogwarts, and is at the very least pro-lolicon) disprove allegations that they were dating a minor. I'm shocked they defended the account I follow seeing what their past is

    • @Fixer_Su3ana
      @Fixer_Su3ana Рік тому +4

      Just because people can make mistakes or in some cases just have an opinion Rev absolutely refuses to tolerate, doesn't make them bad people. I mean, I can understand getting upset at a rape joke. And frankly people should be free to tweet their opinions on principle, not just because they have opinions Rev agrees with.

    • @ИмяФамилия-ф2д8ш
      @ИмяФамилия-ф2д8ш Рік тому +13

      ​@@Fixer_Su3ana threatening someone with death is not an opinion tho. Be disgusted at something as much as you want, just stop accusing people of things that can potentially ruin their lives and careers and then act defensive when the same accusations are thrown at you for the same damn reason

    • @Fixer_Su3ana
      @Fixer_Su3ana Рік тому +1

      @@ИмяФамилия-ф2д8ш Rev spotlighted three Vtubers of varying levels of 'sin', giving a summary of their 'sins' in the first minute of focusing on each one. The only thing they had in common was that Rev didn't approve of their opinions. They didn't all threaten someone with death, but Rev treats them as equally 'sinful'.

    • @ИмяФамилия-ф2д8ш
      @ИмяФамилия-ф2д8ш Рік тому +9

      @@Fixer_Su3ana "rev didn't approve of their opinion"
      1st one: called vtubers fans pedoes and said she herself enables and defends pdfilia
      2nd one: caseally says stuff like "k*ll lolicons" and retweets people who do the same shit
      3rd one: actively supports harassing people to suic*de over drawings
      Again throwing accusations and threats is not an opinion. Being a hypocrite is bad on it's own but that's not the worst part of the video (tho at this point I doubt you even watched it)

    • @Cosmoman78
      @Cosmoman78 Рік тому +4

      ​@@Fixer_Su3anaThey threaten someone with death tho. Are you even watching?

  • @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
    @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty Рік тому +169

    Zaion came out with her side of the story. When she was released, we didn't have her side and honestly, I doubted we ever would. Now that we have it, it makes sense that some people would think "Oh crap, I might have misjudged her!" It's not clout chasing to think you jumped to conclusions to fast. Great job Vtuber 1, you played yourself.

    • @AmazYnGames
      @AmazYnGames Рік тому +35

      Well then that should be a lesson to not judge based on one-side of the story? They were still in the wrong.

    • @idealicfool
      @idealicfool Рік тому +58

      Nah. They are still clout goblins. They jumped on the hate train for clout as they denounced her for things she did and now they are trying to make out they actually give a damn.

    • @yolkman9000
      @yolkman9000 Рік тому +21

      No matter what sides everybody takes, there will be always(kinda) a moment where the two parties are in the wrong, including the ones that partake and take sides.
      Zaion is in wrong but at least she has the guts to apologize and gives out her explaination and opinions with transparency, kudos to her. The people and the company? Yep, I don't see sympathy and transparency at all. Like the person above me says, there are clout goblins that only care for attention and clouts and the so-called 'saints' that is a devil in disguise.

    • @Anugrah_Amriza
      @Anugrah_Amriza Рік тому +3

      @@idealicfool agreed

    • @ИмяФамилия-ф2д8ш
      @ИмяФамилия-ф2д8ш Рік тому +11

      Misgudged her? How about at least being neutral (not talking about sending threats and harassing people) before all neded indormation comes out? Someones life and career is not a telenovela for people to root or boo someone ffs

  • @growingoaks
    @growingoaks Рік тому +43

    I got called a “groomer” bc I responded to an idiot tweet that suggested we add G and P to the alphabet soup. I said “that would imply all of them are pedos and groomers which is wrong. All groups of ppl have groomers n pedos. This isnt the own you think it is” to which they replied “ok groomer” 😂 like wtf? Ppl like this downplaying such a serious thing makes me suspect THEM more than the ppl they call this.

    • @redrocket8062
      @redrocket8062 Рік тому

      They were wrong for calling you a groomer.
      But I do think the LGBTQ+ leaders want to add the P and B (beastiality). Not the community as a whole and certainly not every member. But the big thought leaders definitely lean in that direction. It's why they don't automatically ban minors from their adult events.
      Props to the LGB members that don't let kids into their events.

    • @stupidanon5941
      @stupidanon5941 Рік тому +7

      Well, everyone has x in their group isn't an appropriate defense. We're looking at degree of concentration and trends. It's not unreasonable to say that a certain group of people have a higher percentage of. . . 'child enthusiasts' (It sickens me just to type that) in them than others.

    • @Unapologeticweeb
      @Unapologeticweeb Рік тому +10

      @@stupidanon5941 said groups image would instantly improve if they actually call those groomers out but like gays vs groomers did and the British LGB alliance but no just call everyone phobes instead

    • @someguy34hnt
      @someguy34hnt Рік тому

      Heh, typical ''Jake Pauler'' response by an idiot, who, ironically, was groomed into being sensitive AF. ''Big words'' is ''manipulation'' to them. Like: ''Chicadude, not MY fault your generation is dumb as hell. You get confused by the expression 'fight fire with fire', don't call ME a pedo because of it''

    • @idaniluz652
      @idaniluz652 Рік тому +7

      Someone on twitter was called a pedo for making a comic about adults telling a minor to fuck off from an adult event.

  • @side7oldtype298
    @side7oldtype298 Рік тому +83

    I gotta somehow commend these twittards on adapting on using a vtuber model and think they can say anything they want online without having any consequences.

    • @jeffumbach
      @jeffumbach Рік тому +2

      They really think that nobody can figure out who they are.

    • @LyraPyxisVT
      @LyraPyxisVT Рік тому

      ​@Jeff Umbach but the thing is people can, if the right people dig hard enough they would be found, not saying this is ok but unfortunately there are some that can

  • @Snakedude4life
    @Snakedude4life Рік тому +49

    Clout,
    Root of all twitter/evils.
    🎩
    🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

    • @Just_a_guy_who_likes_stuff
      @Just_a_guy_who_likes_stuff Рік тому +3

      Attention seekers

    • @Caughtintheinterweb
      @Caughtintheinterweb Рік тому +2

      *Accidentally steps on it*

    • @Snakedude4life
      @Snakedude4life Рік тому +8

      @@Caughtintheinterweb
      Negative attention from me is not a replacement for a missing parental figure.
      Touch grass.

    • @Caughtintheinterweb
      @Caughtintheinterweb Рік тому +1

      @Snakedude4life 🤣
      True, my father did pass away a few years ago.
      Yet, you're the one who's reacting to me over a troll tweet, giving me exactly what I want.

    • @Snakedude4life
      @Snakedude4life Рік тому +1

      @@Caughtintheinterweb
      This is the most attention you’ve gotten in a few months, huh?
      Pathetic, even. See my previous advice.

  • @guliverjham8148
    @guliverjham8148 Рік тому +8

    12:20 - 12:30 god, Rev, that was smooth.

  • @protagadditc8434
    @protagadditc8434 Рік тому +8

    One thing we should take from these guys: Rules for thee but not for me

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 Рік тому +17

    Succubus Loli is a whole different breed.

  • @sae-
    @sae- Рік тому +8

    I remember her! She first traced a big vtuber model, then literally copied to the t another vtuber theme, clothes and tiger ears, traced Hana’s new model and then cried about it twice pretending to be a victim

  • @TheTruestZero
    @TheTruestZero Рік тому +15

    And on a new episode of "How my hubris made me look like an idiot as past stuff was discovered"
    Do they will never learn to keep shit quiet before their trash past is unearthed to reveal them as the hypocrites they are?

  • @ninjabaiano6092
    @ninjabaiano6092 Рік тому +18

    Hide someone's face and they show their true colors 😂

    • @Karak-_-
      @Karak-_- Рік тому +1

      "Character is who you are in the dark."

  • @grrman
    @grrman Рік тому +16

    It's a shame Rev has to hide the names of these Vtweeters. I'd love to take a look at their profiles being dunked on

    • @rjmaxx1258
      @rjmaxx1258 Рік тому +20

      Just typing the tweet into google will sometimes find them. You'll probably run into them anyway since they can't stop harassing people.

    • @JojokimVT
      @JojokimVT Рік тому +1

      I could tell you one of the names, but out of respect, I won’t say the name

    • @gaming1zanagi-1999
      @gaming1zanagi-1999 7 місяців тому

      Well Vtuber 2 is AkumaMikoVT

  • @Arassar
    @Arassar Рік тому +13

    I actually thought the whole Niji/Zaion sounded incredibly convenient from the start. It didn't surprise me at all.

  • @SatoshiKenji
    @SatoshiKenji Рік тому +19

    One thing that these people always fails at is admitting their mistake. They just keep jumping sides where it's convenient while ignoring the 'trash' take they already make.

    • @Dkgow
      @Dkgow Рік тому +1

      A simp who defends them: "They don't make mistakes, they have character development and learn"

  • @JojokimVT
    @JojokimVT Рік тому +4

    It’s funny to see that first tweet by that blue haired vtuber cause I saw it when she first posted it and obviously when she welcomed Zaion to the indie world. I wish that those two tweets were the only ones I saw, but no.

  • @mythicalskeleton1546
    @mythicalskeleton1546 Рік тому +14

    Twitter users trying not to waterdown words

  • @johnmartinez-valentin5427
    @johnmartinez-valentin5427 Рік тому +6

    Respect is earned not giving 💯

  • @ooberallen
    @ooberallen Рік тому +10

    yea i have to agree with rev, a lot of EN Vtubers are just mid at best E-girls who couldn't make it as a twitch titty streamer or camgirl. they saw JP vtubers blowing up and figured they could hide behind an anime avatar and rake in lots of simp bucks.

  • @shayoko6
    @shayoko6 Рік тому +8

    3:25 adorable model. a shame people see that and think about pedohila and other negative terms. i wonder if these people that are quick to call people that. think the same when they see real children.
    "the parents must be pedos because they have a child with them"
    isn't much more insane than thinking the same over a fictional character.

    • @Azusashusband
      @Azusashusband Рік тому +6

      They can't separate fiction from reality. Or they just want attention. The first one may be an actual issue that will affect them later. The second one is just kinda sad

    • @espurrseyes42
      @espurrseyes42 Рік тому +1

      @@Azusashusband
      Why not both?

    • @Azusashusband
      @Azusashusband Рік тому +1

      @@espurrseyes42 oh yeah that too

  • @tungnguyen-mc8qm
    @tungnguyen-mc8qm Рік тому +8

    you have become my daily does of BS. and I am loving it

  • @Pier_Games
    @Pier_Games Рік тому +11

    Good news! vtuber 3 still stands by what they said lol found a reply where they said that they're not sorry... God I hate people like this..
    Edit : someone replied with an image of her saying Good and was blocked lol

  • @xackeryy
    @xackeryy Рік тому +9

    Honestly I'm sick and tired of this community. When I started Vtubing, I did not expect to be surrounded by the thing I hate most (antis). It's hard to make genuine connections in the community without feeling like you need to watch yourself every step of the way. I quit following Vtubers without checking their page with certain terms.
    Back in Oct/Nov I had to unfollow/block so many people over that Loli Smash or Pass post. It was exhausting and honestly destroyed my mental health to the point that I rarely participate in the community let alone stream regularly.
    The Hogwarts game stuff was also exhausting. Especially knowing that it originally started as a peaceful protest against playing the game for individuals. It was supposed to be your choice. Not a witchhunt. As someone under the trans umbrella and has several trans friends... we were just so disappointed. Even several of us wanted to play the game. HP is a part of our lives and played a huge role in our childhood. No one should be demonized for wanting to relive it and they shouldn't be expected to jump through hoops to play the game in a more "ethically" way. (Like pirating or donating a huge amount of money to causes.) Not everyone can do that.
    Even today while scrolling through Twitter, despite not following many Vtubers, my feed gets flooded with them. It's always drama... everywhere. People getting canceled for absurd shit that doesn't really matter. Not always about fiction, but usually it is. It's so disappointing that people can't separate fiction from reality. Just let other's enjoy what they want. Block/mute like a normal person. Curate your own online experience properly. I hate that all this anti shit sometimes feels like the new norm. It's not just in Vtubing community. It's super prevalent in the art community and fandoms. Makes me sometimes wish I didn't want to be an artist or Vtuber. Obviously I won't let that stop me, but it is scary sometimes.

  • @solitaregames
    @solitaregames Рік тому +7

    Sometimes I wish to know who Zaion's actress is in real life to invite her a beer (soda if minor) to help her relax and ease of the mayor BS she was put through.
    Like in: Yeah broh, shit happens so we just have to drink it and cheer.

  • @inkymeeks4017
    @inkymeeks4017 Рік тому +12

    Akumamikovt is a horrible person. I’ve been harassed and bullied while also be defamed by her. We use to be friends and she constantly blames me how our friendship was broken. She used stereotypes that I do drugs and vandalism. Keep in mind I’m a black creator and she uses these stereotypes. She doxxed my friend. Told my friend to Kms. Befriended my abuser who assaulted 3 other girls out of spite of me. Called me slurs. And so much more. I have all the ss and what not to prove my side since she never shows how awful she is.

    • @LostSoul-fr7dj
      @LostSoul-fr7dj 10 місяців тому

      @rev says desu please do more on her cuz she kinda been going after small vtubers all cuz they were confused on stuff

  • @inquisitorichijou883
    @inquisitorichijou883 Рік тому +33

    I'm honestly impressed Rev can keep his sanity looking at all this stupidity all the time.

  • @spectre9340
    @spectre9340 Рік тому +5

    Ngl hypocritical Western Vtubers always gives the energy of "new anime fan that only watched it when it became mainstream"
    Like, can we go back to gatekeeping cos like 😩

  • @StarCassia
    @StarCassia Рік тому +5

    When i saw who was on the thumbnail i was kinda shocked cause i used to watch this person and i dident know any of this happened💀

  • @OneWeekRainisu
    @OneWeekRainisu Рік тому +6

    Isn't this the same vtuber that said "no one but me can have such and such on their vtuber avatar"??? XD

  • @albiewhite8913
    @albiewhite8913 Рік тому +2

    "So you're an E-girl with extra steps." XD I'm using this from now on

  • @Jonathanloh1992
    @Jonathanloh1992 Рік тому +14

    This is nothing new here because we had been through this since Gura’s drama.

  • @Anugrah_Amriza
    @Anugrah_Amriza Рік тому +24

    the Pekora Meme rather than a meme has become an undeniable Fact

    • @joshjess9841
      @joshjess9841 Рік тому +7

      Monsoon from MGR:R once said:
      "MEMES, the DNA of the soul. They are our will. They are our culture. They are everything we pass on."

  • @MaverickhunterXZero
    @MaverickhunterXZero Рік тому +9

    Remember; Always Gatekeep. Eversince Pokimane and simps for her welcomed her with open arms over have one stream with a Vtuber model, they let these people in by the horde.

    • @onidaaitsubasa4177
      @onidaaitsubasa4177 Рік тому

      She should've Vtubed more often, or made a separate game channel called Pokimane Vtube or something like that, and have both stream at different times.

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero Рік тому

      @@onidaaitsubasa4177 She just wanted the clout from using a Vtuber model. That's why she only used it once to my knowledge and leeches defended her because she's popular - while laughing at smaller Vtubers getting dogpiled by the mob.

  • @Damian_DH
    @Damian_DH Рік тому +5

    is the loli streaming or something i hope she didint change her model was lit af.

  • @jabble__
    @jabble__ Рік тому +2

    >bullied into suicide
    I must have missed that story. Anyone have the details?

  • @inscription8099
    @inscription8099 Рік тому +6

    How to spice up any conversation about anime or video games. Throw in the word loli here and there.

  • @krispynico960
    @krispynico960 Рік тому +9

    Man remember the good ol days where everything was wholesome...

  • @StudioKelpie1993
    @StudioKelpie1993 Рік тому +7

    Western VTubers when Asian VTubers do a thing: "nO yoU cAn'T dO dAt, ThAtS fOr PeDoS RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"

  • @Maikeru3078
    @Maikeru3078 Рік тому +2

    omgg the succubus model is soo cute bro

  • @Caughtintheinterweb
    @Caughtintheinterweb Рік тому +7

    Me who was once part of a vtuber doxxing server:
    Ah shit, here we go again.

    • @megatron8449
      @megatron8449 Рік тому +1

      I may not approve of that fact, but I'm going to act like I never heard that.
      (Proceed with leaking info)

    • @Caughtintheinterweb
      @Caughtintheinterweb Рік тому

      @megatron8449 "How dare you post [Insert vtuber here] personal yet already online information"?
      "I'm shaking and crying RN"!

  • @DiabolicCrusher
    @DiabolicCrusher Рік тому +2

    Well, no problem, can still search by text and let them taste their own medicine, so to speak, they go into protected mode for a while, rinse and repeat until they're gone.

  • @OtsdarvaOS
    @OtsdarvaOS Рік тому +8

    And here I thought the whole vtubing community would be wholesome and understanding of each other. A step above. But they're just as big asshole as people who do stupid shit for clout. Guess this is why Hololive is so well liked, they kick your ass out for doing stupid shit. Can't even imagine Gura getting stuck into drama like this and calling someone a pedo or what have you.

    • @onidaaitsubasa4177
      @onidaaitsubasa4177 Рік тому +2

      Well, technically we can't be sure if these Twitter people are actual Vtubers seeing as how some never debut and make content, I honestly don;t know how they would even stream and not get banned for Harassing people while streaming.

  • @amandap7733
    @amandap7733 Рік тому +7

    How did I not know that a loli won a thigh contest? That's so funny.

  • @SenseiRaisen
    @SenseiRaisen Рік тому +2

    In the same vein of "Schrodinger Feminist" , i present you: "Schrodinger Vtweeter: where the person is both the victim and the bully, and only react with each when the situation amerite it".

  • @dandare9055
    @dandare9055 Рік тому +2

    Pikamee was second most open I would say... I mean: things Matsuri-chan did and said are stuff of legends~

  • @jamesfarrell3455
    @jamesfarrell3455 Рік тому +2

    Rev is the PepperRidge Farm of VTubers. After all, he remembers.

  • @montyturner6511
    @montyturner6511 Рік тому +4

    Great video man.
    Edit: The third vtuber is literally evil. How can she say it's "good" that an innocent people get falsely claimed to be a creep over anime content that doesn't even involve irl kids. And minecraft themselves as a result of it. This person really out here doing bullcrap like this. Good grief, what has vtubing become these days.🤦😮‍💨

  • @phonebackup2083
    @phonebackup2083 Рік тому +11

    Well, while I don't agree with her takes the model is definitely child-like in appearance. You'd have to be coping to not see that, the only thing she's missing is a red backpack.

  • @acutelilmint8035
    @acutelilmint8035 Рік тому +4

    3:45 omg it’s so cute

  • @bisketan
    @bisketan Рік тому +6

    Lmfao I genuinely believe VTweeters are flat out jealous of other peoples success so they go out of their way to be miserable all around.. - w -

  • @18wheelsandadrone26
    @18wheelsandadrone26 Рік тому +4

    I'm wondering when you are going to break out the news desk, the professional succubus outfit, and have your vtuber wife join you for news style show.

  • @valkyrieregalia
    @valkyrieregalia Рік тому +5

    I don't respect their disgust over loli/shota. I disrespect it because it's just them being unable to separate 2 distinct things in this instance, and then using that as a poor excuse to harass and libel others over cartoon drawings. What deserves respect is people who can appreciate loli/shota designs because those designs _are_ super cute and I myself love cute aesthetics myself. It's cultured. I like a large variety of designs and character styles and am happy that loli/shota character designs are a staple among them in popular works. I have no desire to pretend otherwise because of these adult children (or actual children who lie about their age because let's be real, it's pretty common on Twitter).

  • @KrissNaramon
    @KrissNaramon Рік тому +14

    Western vtubers when too much liberty and freedom

  • @theeggatyourfrontdoor2092
    @theeggatyourfrontdoor2092 Рік тому +2

    For the first vtuber, I remember seeing a little drama between her and a vtuber/artist I liked, regarding her stealing several aspects of other vtuber’s designs. Unfortunately, a lot of people sided with the vtweeter, despite the vtuber I followed displaying so much evidence against her, even overlaying designs and silhouettes.

  • @Car0_0.
    @Car0_0. Рік тому +21

    It was only twittards who literally made being a pdf and a lolicon the same. When being a lolicon is just someone who likes the character and designs of a " FICTIONAL " character so why not be pissed at " ACTUAL " pdf huh

    • @Car0_0.
      @Car0_0. Рік тому +1

      @Druid of Scosglen Literally a fact

  • @VerticalForklift
    @VerticalForklift Рік тому +9

    RIP I follow the vtuber at 15:05, had a feeling she'd appear in a video of yours. She did actually debut in autumn 2021, streamed a few times and then stopped (I forget why). I've somehow missed all her harassment of others despite following her since 2021. One thing is for sure, she has been really struggling with her mental health these past few years, going on and then coming off anti-depressants.

  • @horusfalcon
    @horusfalcon Рік тому

    Thanks, again, Rev. Yours is a unique voice in the anime' wilderness.

  • @acutelilmint8035
    @acutelilmint8035 Рік тому +3

    I propose we need a giant wall between these people who r ruining everything

  • @MisakaMikotoDesu
    @MisakaMikotoDesu Рік тому +4

    Nonstop drama lets GO

  • @zundeesteed
    @zundeesteed Рік тому +58

    Somebody calling other people Clout Roach's while being an absolute clout roach themselves. Mina has so little self awareness that i hesitate to consider her a sentient being.

    • @yolkman9000
      @yolkman9000 Рік тому

      You know, it would be better for them to just shut up if they are actually a dumbass. Because the reason why Twitter are infested with these freaks and roaches is because they don't bother to do research and study in order to gain knowledge. They should have mind their own business instead of being a clout chasing dickhead. Sure, they can love and hate, they can agree and disagree but at least, they need to be honest, self-aware(like you said), and professional(if it's a Vtuber in that case) about it rather than crying and complaining over something so small while doing so to keep fueling the fire. It's just funny that whenever I see people that think they are the greatest person ever lived, turns out to be the worst(I used to think that way before.) while the ones that always think of themselves as a shitty person, turns out to be good. Though it varies or differs depending on the individual.

    • @iamthehype3684
      @iamthehype3684 Рік тому +2

      Before she did ASMR she played LoL. She's literally a stereotypical LoL player lmao

    • @raysomething6055
      @raysomething6055 Рік тому +1

      @@iamthehype3684nah lol is toxic not the holier than thou

    • @Mrshoujo
      @Mrshoujo Рік тому

      * roaches - no apostrophe

  • @SplittingOfPrides
    @SplittingOfPrides Рік тому +5

    Calling themselves a Vtuber and not made a single video. Vtuber is about entertainment, you are not Vtuber if you cant even make short funny vid.
    Rev is a real Vtuber he makes vids every day.

  • @chloranusvennhrer1855
    @chloranusvennhrer1855 Рік тому +3

    Well, now I can understand the real weight of the phrase "Everyone can be a VTuber now!".............fuck.....

    • @aqualiusaidhreborn5923
      @aqualiusaidhreborn5923 Рік тому +1

      Really puts Syndrome's quote from The Incredibles into perspective.
      "And when everyone's super, no one will be."

  • @thetiredbiker3652
    @thetiredbiker3652 Рік тому +1

    “The internet never forgets.”

  • @valleyard8674
    @valleyard8674 Рік тому +5

    Oh yes, classic v-tweeter moments... Great...

  • @bxnaxmxxnaxx1914
    @bxnaxmxxnaxx1914 Рік тому +1

    i mean, if you want to have someone fade to the background, taking them down a pegging, just to offer your fictional holes after i. the dark is one way to Bring the Doomed King to its conclusion.

  • @TheProphetOfThePan
    @TheProphetOfThePan Рік тому +2

    "Lol" says the internet, "lmao"
    Rule#1 of the internet: the internet NEVER forgets.

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
    @JohnSmith-xq1pz Рік тому +4

    Well according to an anime who name eludes me at the moment, Younger Succubus just need to kiss a boy to absorb life force

  • @RDsToys_Games
    @RDsToys_Games Рік тому +9

    Twitter clowns are weirdos

  • @precuncaraili
    @precuncaraili Рік тому +3

    Tbh everyone has a dark past, like 8 years ago when I was young I used to cyber bully my friend every day. Now that I've grown I realize that I was a huge asshole.

    • @precuncaraili
      @precuncaraili Рік тому +1

      But for sure in 2 years someone can't really change

  • @InfamyOrDeath-__-
    @InfamyOrDeath-__- Рік тому +1

    I never really watch VTubers, the only ones I’ve seen are the Idol girls, mostly Juna. I seen a UA-cam ad for her and just clicked on it, and then loved her voice, so I check out an odd stream. And then I’ve watched a few videos of Pippa.

  • @thepixelfoxy
    @thepixelfoxy Рік тому +3

    "I am convinced no one cares about me"
    *What gave you that idea?* 💀

  • @RuneBunnura_Official
    @RuneBunnura_Official Рік тому +7

    Too many fake people in the VTubing sphere. 😒

    • @sora8711
      @sora8711 Рік тому +1

      The medium as a whole is more or less being "fake" you play a role, an act.
      Some people take it a bit too far though.

    • @RuneBunnura_Official
      @RuneBunnura_Official Рік тому +1

      @@sora8711, depends on the person. There’s playing a character, and then there’s being a hypocrite.

  • @arkasiawinters
    @arkasiawinters Рік тому +2

    Nah that last one deserves all the karma in the world.

  • @SepthSCh
    @SepthSCh Рік тому +3

    this is why i dont really like and try to be active on twitter, somehow i see ppl there just making up stories to get clout. making bad takes to get attention. it just icky to me.