The Sprinter at 1:52, showing Kirkcaldy as its destination, was actually doing a Fife circle working, in this case an inner circle, Edinburgh - Kirkcaldy - Cardenden - Dunfermline - Edinburgh. The blind would be changed at Kinghorn to show Edinburgh, trains on the outer circle would show Cardenden, and the blind would be changed at Cardenden to show Edinburgh.
Class 47 push pull was the best ever trains on the Waverley to Queen street route. Comfort, style and raw power. The ScotFail stuff we have now is just rubbish
Replacing the worn out, and highly thrashed class 27 push-pull sets! BR had wanted to use Inter-City 125s on the Edinburgh-Glasgow runs but the Department of Roads wouldn't sanction it.....
Of all the colour schemes i've seen on Britain's rail network Pre-Privatisation I find The Regional Railways and The Scotrail 47/7's/ MK III DBSO stock the most appealing. That and The Intercity Swallow colours even if it's not shown here. Love your work Soi.
Something I remember about the 150 Sprinters was that unlike most trains with the same door layout, passengers could use the single doors at either end.
Thanks for sharing your videos, great for research. Regarding the first push-pull set at 1:03 , do you (or anyone else for that matter) happen to know the coach running numbers for those mk3s sandwiched between 47 716 and 9709?
I'm not sure they were in a fixed formation back then. A Platform 5 Combined Volume from 1989 may show if there were any official fixed formation sets.....
Yes, that was because the train split into 2 three car trains at Crainlaric, one half to Oban, the other Fort William. Of course, a six car train of 3 two car units can't split evenly so they reformed the units.....
In the summers of 1989 and 1992, both Haymarket and Inverness marahslled most of their 156 units into three-car formations. On the West Highland, this permitted a six-car set to work to Crianlarich and then split with three each to Oban/Mallaig. Six is the maximum most stations can take on the WHL. On the Aberdeen-Inverness route, traffic was high enough that two-cars was found inadequate, but the desire to offer a greater frequency meant there weren't enough units if too many four-car (2×2-car) formations were made, three-cars was a compromise. The 3-car arrangement was not perpetuated in 1990 or 1991 due to the late deliveries of the 158 units and the need for 156s to cover on Edinburgh-Glasgow and Glasgow-Aberdeen. Edinburgh-Aberdeen remained LHCS (there were only two ScotRail workings each way then, ECML HSTs and XC workings did the other services), and Aberdeen-Inverness reverted in order to free up more units (Glasgow to Aberdeen was doubled in frequency to hourly in 1990, so required the extra units; Edinburgh-Aberdeen was postponed). Once sufficient 158s were in service, then Inverness-Aberdeen went mostly back to 156s and Edinburgh-Aberdeen was eventually doubled to hourly with ScotRail now offering the majority of services. The 156 design was intended to be flexible, as well as 2-car, sets could be formed as 3, 5, 7 etc as required. This is now no longer possible as the internal BSI couplers have been replaced with fixed bar couplers and semi-permanent MU connectors for reasons of reliability; so 2-car units can only be divided on depots now.
Sprinter coming in with tail lights on? (3:05) 🤨 Actually that's interesting in itself, 156 447/449 strengthened to three cars with a vehicle from 156 500 (in the first one at least) inserted as a middle car.
I noticed the 3-car 156s, they were actually set up so that this was possible - manual coupling between cars with a separate jumper cable, and a jumper socket on the driving end. Tail lights on is probably just the driver beginning to change ends before the train's in the station!🙂
They couldn't run them in standard 2 car units as the 6 car trains had to split at Crainlariach, one 3 car to both Oban and For Bill..... hence the mixing up to make two 3 car units......
great to see 47/7 & dbso's again
Gosh, the smoke from those old DMUs makes you understand how the Sprinters must have been welcomed
The clag in Edinburgh Waverley was astounding at times. Truly gut-reaching 🤮!
Superb stuff. Right in my favourite period. Keep them coming.
Bringing back memories of my childhood this one! Going to Edinburgh in the late 80s/early 90s from Fife.
The Sprinter at 1:52, showing Kirkcaldy as its destination, was actually doing a Fife circle working, in this case an inner circle, Edinburgh - Kirkcaldy - Cardenden - Dunfermline - Edinburgh. The blind would be changed at Kinghorn to show Edinburgh, trains on the outer circle would show Cardenden, and the blind would be changed at Cardenden to show Edinburgh.
They changed the "destination" for Fife Circle services to Glenrothes in recent years.
Destination Blind now changed at “Glenrothes with Thornton” in both directions on The Fife Circle.
Great to see the old Scotrail 47s, Mark 3s and Mark 2 DBSOs.
Class 47 push pull was the best ever trains on the Waverley to Queen street route. Comfort, style and raw power. The ScotFail stuff we have now is just rubbish
I can't argue with you there......
Love these videos, weirdly enough I was actually driving 156449 earlier in the week 😀
Must be in a right state by now, it was new here and shining!
I remember the Class 47’s being introduced on the Edinburgh Glasgow route in the Autumn of 1979.
Replacing the worn out, and highly thrashed class 27 push-pull sets! BR had wanted to use Inter-City 125s on the Edinburgh-Glasgow runs but the Department of Roads wouldn't sanction it.....
The Class 47 was the Grandfather of the Modern Day Scotrail Commuter Trains
Incredible footage
Thank you.....
Over the next few years, this is what the Anglia region looked like
Of all the colour schemes i've seen on Britain's rail network Pre-Privatisation I find The Regional Railways and The Scotrail 47/7's/ MK III DBSO stock the most appealing. That and The Intercity Swallow colours even if it's not shown here. Love your work Soi.
Thank you.... still lots from the past to upload......
Something I remember about the 150 Sprinters was that unlike most trains with the same door layout, passengers could use the single doors at either end.
Excellent footage 👍
Thank you....
47712 is now back in Scotrail livery along with her Mk2/3 push pull rake
Good to hear......
Thanks for sharing your videos, great for research. Regarding the first push-pull set at 1:03 , do you (or anyone else for that matter) happen to know the coach running numbers for those mk3s sandwiched between 47 716 and 9709?
I'm not sure they were in a fixed formation back then. A Platform 5 Combined Volume from 1989 may show if there were any official fixed formation sets.....
Those Scot Rail class 47’s look good.
Excellent video 👍👍👍
That six car 156 was a strange formation. Two three (unit and a half?) car units lashed together?
Yes, that was because the train split into 2 three car trains at Crainlaric, one half to Oban, the other Fort William. Of course, a six car train of 3 two car units can't split evenly so they reformed the units.....
In the summers of 1989 and 1992, both Haymarket and Inverness marahslled most of their 156 units into three-car formations.
On the West Highland, this permitted a six-car set to work to Crianlarich and then split with three each to Oban/Mallaig. Six is the maximum most stations can take on the WHL.
On the Aberdeen-Inverness route, traffic was high enough that two-cars was found inadequate, but the desire to offer a greater frequency meant there weren't enough units if too many four-car (2×2-car) formations were made, three-cars was a compromise.
The 3-car arrangement was not perpetuated in 1990 or 1991 due to the late deliveries of the 158 units and the need for 156s to cover on Edinburgh-Glasgow and Glasgow-Aberdeen.
Edinburgh-Aberdeen remained LHCS (there were only two ScotRail workings each way then, ECML HSTs and XC workings did the other services), and Aberdeen-Inverness reverted in order to free up more units (Glasgow to Aberdeen was doubled in frequency to hourly in 1990, so required the extra units; Edinburgh-Aberdeen was postponed).
Once sufficient 158s were in service, then Inverness-Aberdeen went mostly back to 156s and Edinburgh-Aberdeen was eventually doubled to hourly with ScotRail now offering the majority of services.
The 156 design was intended to be flexible, as well as 2-car, sets could be formed as 3, 5, 7 etc as required.
This is now no longer possible as the internal BSI couplers have been replaced with fixed bar couplers and semi-permanent MU connectors for reasons of reliability; so 2-car units can only be divided on depots now.
@@hexagon7895 thanks for the info ..... Even more complex than I thought!
Typically Scottish summers day in Edinburgh...😆
Sprinter coming in with tail lights on? (3:05) 🤨 Actually that's interesting in itself, 156 447/449 strengthened to three cars with a vehicle from 156 500 (in the first one at least) inserted as a middle car.
I noticed the 3-car 156s, they were actually set up so that this was possible - manual coupling between cars with a separate jumper cable, and a jumper socket on the driving end. Tail lights on is probably just the driver beginning to change ends before the train's in the station!🙂
They couldn't run them in standard 2 car units as the 6 car trains had to split at Crainlariach, one 3 car to both Oban and For Bill..... hence the mixing up to make two 3 car units......
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A class of DMU built by Metro Cammell, there are 3 sets at work in this upload.......