Update: Successfully returned the CS2011A for a refund with AliExpress. Disappointing that one didn't work out, as it's largely a solid performer. I still wonder if it was just my unit that had oversensitive protection, or if its a design issue. CS0702A remains awesome and my #1 recommendation: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEfkOT5
I have the CreationSpace CS0601A, what I like is it has removable 14250 battery and the case can charge so I get a pair of battery for backup. I also have the Miniware ES15S, it's like a luxury tool for showing off but using it is enjoyable, good feeling in hand and I think only ES15S in this list has Impact so it actually acts as an Impact Driver instead of twisting your hand. I personal think these kind of tools should have only this power range, for bigger things I have bigger tools, more power is too easy to break the threads.
Oh yes, the CS0601A is the original CreationSpace yeah. I always wanted that when it came out, never got around to it. Nice driver, well packaged too. I did not know the ES15S has impact, thanks for the info.
i personally own the xiomi electric precision screwdrver for whole year at this point and its very very good battery lasts pretty long ,has ok amount of torque -for taking apart laptops i bought it pretty expensive(at least thats lot of money for me ) about 40 euros but it was worth it sure
UPDATE: Arrowmax warranty support is mailing me two new sticks ( drill and grinder)-Will update when they arrive. Previous comment:I don't own any of the other brands, but I can tell you I purchased both the AM-Arrowmax drill set and grinder sets and both were expensive GARBAGE. DO NOT buy these. I wouldn't by anything from that brand ever again as their customer service is nonexistent.
Really, interesting! Hmmm I may have to buy one. I assume that you use it like a regular screwdriver and 'manually' crack (loosen) the screw, but then the motor takes over and twists it out? It sounds quite seamless. And it's like 450RPM or something too, very fast.
Do you have a best rec for a 1/4" drive electric screwdriver? I mostly work on 10th and 1/5th scale bashers(X-Maxx) with a set of MIP Speed hex drivers. I hear good things about the Dewalt w/gyro, but man is it expensive! I need good power, but something that won't blow the threads out when it hits home.
Yes, so the 'Power Precision' I mention in this video are 1/4". I'd recommend Creation Space CS1901A. I use on 1/10th bashers, its got plenty of torque to move screws, but no where near enough to break threads. Best I think for a relatively cheap price ($30). See its part here: ua-cam.com/video/DfiWH-6eoxU/v-deo.html Buy link here: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBgXS2b I have another video being made that specifically focuses on larger drivers, so subscribe if you'd like to see that in future. Thanks for your comment!
All the 'precision' ones like CS0702A are 4mm or 5/32" socket. It includes adapter for smaller bits too. The power-precision like CS1901A are 6mm or 1/4". See: ua-cam.com/video/DfiWH-6eoxU/v-deo.html
I don't understand the emphasis on torque. If I need torque, I'd use an impact driver. What I would look for is something that feels good in the hand, and handles like a normal precision screwdriver--which in most cases means slim and light--but with enough torque to spin a loose screw faster than I can, to save on the repetition, and with a clutch to lock up when manual torquing is needed. Other than that, I'd be looking at durability--it should survive a fall from desk/counter height.
Thanks for the feedback. It depends on the use case, but yeah the problem is many on the market (with 0.2Nm) can't undo a typical electronics screw except for the smallest ones inside tablets/phones (as demonstrated with the Xiaomi Precision torque test). So you fall back to manual mode, which is fine, except when you find it doesn't have a clutch! (eg. 28-in-1 Kingduin). As a result, many began seeking drivers with higher torque (a big concern from commenters in last video), however clutch, size/weight (hand feel), and price are also important and included in the table. Each one was checked with calipers, scale, torque gauge, etc. But thank you for the comment, I didn't think to explain this when making the video, it teaches me I need to watch my biases! Thanks :)
@@CheapCheerful You're still missing the point. There are regular screwdrivers where torque might matter a little, but for a precision screwdriver, I don't need it to have enough torque to loosen a screw. I can do that manually easily. I just need it to unwind that loose screw faster than I can, and otherwise handle and feel like a small precision screwdriver. When I'm opening up a laptop, and moving a precision screwdriver from tiny screw to tiny screw, I don't want it to have the size and bulk (or worst) of a regular screwdriver. Sure, you found one that didn't have a clutch and that's useful to know, but wasted a bunch of time torque testing them.
@@kchiem Oh I see. You don't mind if it cannot 'crack' the screw, you're happy to do that by hand. So long as it has enough RPM to zip out the screw faster than you can do it by hand, then you're happy (plus ergonomics, etc). The reason I focused on torque was because it was the most complained about problem with the Xiaomi, as people like myself want it to both crack and undo the screw. Everyone has different priorities. For you, I'd think they could design a screwdriver similar to the micro drill I tested at 31:29. Check it out if you have'nt. It's extremely thin and high RPM. Very little torque, but redesigned as a screwdriver I think it could meet your preference closer to anything else on the market. Heck they could probably build it into the size of a Wiha Precision screwdriver. That would be awesome.
@@CheapCheerful We run a volunteer driven repair café in Denmark and for us, torque is key when we use precision screwdrivers. Most often people use an iFixit set, when they repair an item. This is because the bits are superior to most other sets and the manual drive is best in class. When we need to use a precision screwdriver, it's because we either have to open a product with 100 screws or because our guest doesn't have the strength in hand to "break" a screw by hand. We started with a regular 0.35 Nm precision screwdriver from Aliexpress, but it was worth nothing. Being able to use the same drive for all screws is a must. We saw your other video and bought the Creationspace 1901A which is now our favourite. We have two problems with the device though. 1: The round design of the product is a problem, when people with limited hand strength are using the device. We designed a 3D printed cover for the device which solved this problem: www.printables.com/model/947204-creation-space-cs1900a-cover 2: The torque wheel in the bottom is not the greatest design choice. It's very easy to change without noticing, because there are no steps in the wheel. Also it might happen, that if the device spins in the hand, it shuts itself off. A button on the side as the newer small torque models would be better. But thanks a lot for the review. If you could be interested in testing more repair café tools, we would love to share our ideas for different products. On our website, we are also just started to share our experience with the piles of tools we have bought over the years: reparations.konsortiet.dk/guides/
@kchiem good luck working wit M3 hardware with an impact driver. I'd really love something with reliable torque settings, so I wouldn't need to carry my Wera 7440 set.
Update: Successfully returned the CS2011A for a refund with AliExpress. Disappointing that one didn't work out, as it's largely a solid performer. I still wonder if it was just my unit that had oversensitive protection, or if its a design issue. CS0702A remains awesome and my #1 recommendation: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEfkOT5
I have the CreationSpace CS0601A, what I like is it has removable 14250 battery and the case can charge so I get a pair of battery for backup. I also have the Miniware ES15S, it's like a luxury tool for showing off but using it is enjoyable, good feeling in hand and I think only ES15S in this list has Impact so it actually acts as an Impact Driver instead of twisting your hand. I personal think these kind of tools should have only this power range, for bigger things I have bigger tools, more power is too easy to break the threads.
Oh yes, the CS0601A is the original CreationSpace yeah. I always wanted that when it came out, never got around to it. Nice driver, well packaged too. I did not know the ES15S has impact, thanks for the info.
What is the difference between the 0702, 0702A, 0802, 0802A etc.? Looks pretty much the same at first glance
As far as I can tell it's just the included accessories. I wish they'd use clearer naming conventions!
i personally own the xiomi electric precision screwdrver for whole year at this point and its very very good
battery lasts pretty long ,has ok amount of torque -for taking apart laptops
i bought it pretty expensive(at least thats lot of money for me ) about 40 euros but it was worth it sure
Love the test, thank you! Best one I saw so far.
Only wish I would have is to see more models, in particular premium versions.
Thanks! Yes, I'd love to review some more premium models also. Maybe if/when my channel is larger, since I buy all these myself.
You convinced me! Got the CS0802A and excited for it!
UPDATE: Arrowmax warranty support is mailing me two new sticks ( drill and grinder)-Will update when they arrive. Previous comment:I don't own any of the other brands, but I can tell you I purchased both the AM-Arrowmax drill set and grinder sets and both were expensive GARBAGE. DO NOT buy these. I wouldn't by anything from that brand ever again as their customer service is nonexistent.
Interesting! I was considering buying an ArrowMax next for a review. Maybe I'll stick with the cheapies. Thank you for the feedback.
Shame you didn't get to play with the MiniWare ES15S. I bought it & love it. It handles everything i've throw at it with my R/C vehicles.
Really, interesting! Hmmm I may have to buy one. I assume that you use it like a regular screwdriver and 'manually' crack (loosen) the screw, but then the motor takes over and twists it out? It sounds quite seamless. And it's like 450RPM or something too, very fast.
@@CheapCheerful I've the ES15 as well and I love the impact mode and retreat mode it has
Do you have a best rec for a 1/4" drive electric screwdriver? I mostly work on 10th and 1/5th scale bashers(X-Maxx) with a set of MIP Speed hex drivers. I hear good things about the Dewalt w/gyro, but man is it expensive! I need good power, but something that won't blow the threads out when it hits home.
Yes, so the 'Power Precision' I mention in this video are 1/4". I'd recommend Creation Space CS1901A. I use on 1/10th bashers, its got plenty of torque to move screws, but no where near enough to break threads. Best I think for a relatively cheap price ($30).
See its part here: ua-cam.com/video/DfiWH-6eoxU/v-deo.html
Buy link here: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBgXS2b
I have another video being made that specifically focuses on larger drivers, so subscribe if you'd like to see that in future. Thanks for your comment!
what is the bit size on CreationSpace CS0702A ?
All the 'precision' ones like CS0702A are 4mm or 5/32" socket. It includes adapter for smaller bits too.
The power-precision like CS1901A are 6mm or 1/4".
See: ua-cam.com/video/DfiWH-6eoxU/v-deo.html
@@CheapCheerful thanks
I don't understand the emphasis on torque. If I need torque, I'd use an impact driver. What I would look for is something that feels good in the hand, and handles like a normal precision screwdriver--which in most cases means slim and light--but with enough torque to spin a loose screw faster than I can, to save on the repetition, and with a clutch to lock up when manual torquing is needed. Other than that, I'd be looking at durability--it should survive a fall from desk/counter height.
Thanks for the feedback. It depends on the use case, but yeah the problem is many on the market (with 0.2Nm) can't undo a typical electronics screw except for the smallest ones inside tablets/phones (as demonstrated with the Xiaomi Precision torque test). So you fall back to manual mode, which is fine, except when you find it doesn't have a clutch! (eg. 28-in-1 Kingduin). As a result, many began seeking drivers with higher torque (a big concern from commenters in last video), however clutch, size/weight (hand feel), and price are also important and included in the table. Each one was checked with calipers, scale, torque gauge, etc. But thank you for the comment, I didn't think to explain this when making the video, it teaches me I need to watch my biases! Thanks :)
@@CheapCheerful You're still missing the point. There are regular screwdrivers where torque might matter a little, but for a precision screwdriver, I don't need it to have enough torque to loosen a screw. I can do that manually easily. I just need it to unwind that loose screw faster than I can, and otherwise handle and feel like a small precision screwdriver. When I'm opening up a laptop, and moving a precision screwdriver from tiny screw to tiny screw, I don't want it to have the size and bulk (or worst) of a regular screwdriver. Sure, you found one that didn't have a clutch and that's useful to know, but wasted a bunch of time torque testing them.
@@kchiem Oh I see. You don't mind if it cannot 'crack' the screw, you're happy to do that by hand. So long as it has enough RPM to zip out the screw faster than you can do it by hand, then you're happy (plus ergonomics, etc). The reason I focused on torque was because it was the most complained about problem with the Xiaomi, as people like myself want it to both crack and undo the screw. Everyone has different priorities. For you, I'd think they could design a screwdriver similar to the micro drill I tested at 31:29. Check it out if you have'nt. It's extremely thin and high RPM. Very little torque, but redesigned as a screwdriver I think it could meet your preference closer to anything else on the market. Heck they could probably build it into the size of a Wiha Precision screwdriver. That would be awesome.
@@CheapCheerful We run a volunteer driven repair café in Denmark and for us, torque is key when we use precision screwdrivers. Most often people use an iFixit set, when they repair an item. This is because the bits are superior to most other sets and the manual drive is best in class. When we need to use a precision screwdriver, it's because we either have to open a product with 100 screws or because our guest doesn't have the strength in hand to "break" a screw by hand.
We started with a regular 0.35 Nm precision screwdriver from Aliexpress, but it was worth nothing. Being able to use the same drive for all screws is a must. We saw your other video and bought the Creationspace 1901A which is now our favourite. We have two problems with the device though.
1: The round design of the product is a problem, when people with limited hand strength are using the device. We designed a 3D printed cover for the device which solved this problem: www.printables.com/model/947204-creation-space-cs1900a-cover
2: The torque wheel in the bottom is not the greatest design choice. It's very easy to change without noticing, because there are no steps in the wheel. Also it might happen, that if the device spins in the hand, it shuts itself off. A button on the side as the newer small torque models would be better.
But thanks a lot for the review. If you could be interested in testing more repair café tools, we would love to share our ideas for different products. On our website, we are also just started to share our experience with the piles of tools we have bought over the years: reparations.konsortiet.dk/guides/
@kchiem good luck working wit M3 hardware with an impact driver. I'd really love something with reliable torque settings, so I wouldn't need to carry my Wera 7440 set.