Sam Altman on His Feud with Elon Musk-and the Battle for AI's Future

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  • Опубліковано 4 лют 2025

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  • @manuelmao4700
    @manuelmao4700 Місяць тому +202

    interview starts at 6:16

    • @vinny2688
      @vinny2688 Місяць тому +22

      No one is here for Bari Weiss lmao

    • @DonG-1949
      @DonG-1949 Місяць тому +9

      @@vinny2688 speak for yourself bro. around here we simp bari

    • @Lakerbeatmaker
      @Lakerbeatmaker Місяць тому +1

      Thank you 😂 🙏🏿

    • @Poodie223
      @Poodie223 Місяць тому +1

      Interview starts at 37:05

    • @comradepeter87
      @comradepeter87 Місяць тому +1

      Don't worry, if you're using SponsorBlock then I've put that part in the "Filler" section. It'll be skipped for you.

  • @IntellectCorner
    @IntellectCorner Місяць тому +61

    *Interview Starts at* 6:16
    6:44 - The Transformation of AI Since 2023
    7:43 - AI's Integration into Society
    8:42 - Personal Use of AI by Sam Altman
    9:55 - Predictions on the Emergence of Superintelligence
    10:28 - The Impact of Superintelligence on Society and the Economy
    12:39 - The Shift from Nonprofit to a Hybrid Model at OpenAI
    13:44 - Elon Musk's Lawsuits Against OpenAI
    14:18 - The Fundamental Conflict and Speculations on Musk's Motivations
    16:55 - The Importance of a For-Profit Arm for OpenAI's Growth
    17:54 - The Financial Realities of Developing AI
    19:15 - OpenAI's Response to the Conflict
    20:53 - The Role of Transparency and the Nonprofit Status
    22:29 - Misaligned Incentives and the Shift to For-Profit
    23:31 - The Role of Government in AI Development
    23:59 - The Debate on Regulation and Competition in AI
    25:24 - The Nonprofit Status and Profit Distribution of OpenAI
    26:22 - Hopes for AI's Impact on Society
    27:37 - Sam Altman's Equity and Financial Stake in OpenAI
    29:32 - Hypothetical Restructuring of OpenAI
    32:58 - The Debate on AI Regulation and Its Impact on Competition
    34:35 - The Argument for and Against Government Regulation of AI
    37:26 - The Importance of US-Based AI Infrastructure and Supply Chain
    37:57 - The Analogy Between AI Development and the Manhattan Project
    39:23 - The Decline in State Capacity and the Role of Science in Society
    43:37 - OpenAI's Collaboration with Anduril Industries on AI for Military Applications
    44:36 - The AI Arms Race with China
    45:42 - The Strategy of Cooperation and Competition with China
    47:57 - Addressing Bias and Censorship in AI
    49:07 - User Flexibility and System Behavior in AI
    50:06 - The Impossibility of a Politically Neutral AI
    50:30 - The Responsibility to Fight Pernicious Ideas with AI
    51:27 - The Idea of Transparency in AI Behavior Changes
    52:48 - Sam Altman's Donation to Trump's Inauguration and Political Views
    54:16 - The Patriotic Duty of AI Development

  • @manuelmao4700
    @manuelmao4700 Місяць тому +38

    I gave Gemini 2.0 Flash Thinking Experimental the transcript of this interview and got this incredible set of timestamps
    00:00 Introduction: Fundamental Conflict with Elon Musk
    00:33 Advertisement for The Free Press
    01:58 Introduction to the Interview with Sam Altman
    02:35 Understanding AI's Evolution and Impact
    03:12 Key Questions Around AI Leadership and Regulation
    03:47 Elon Musk's Criticism of OpenAI and Sam Altman
    04:22 History of the Feud and Lawsuits
    04:59 Feud is About Control of the Technology
    05:30 Topics Covered in the Interview
    06:04 Interview Begins
    06:44 How AI has Changed Since April 2023
    07:15 Rapid Improvement of AI Technology
    07:43 Integration of AI into Society
    08:12 Sam Altman's Personal Use of Chat GPT
    08:42 Chat GPT's Search Integration
    09:55 Predicting Super Intelligence
    10:28 What is Super Intelligence?
    11:39 Public Battle with Elon Musk: Background
    12:09 Summarizing the Conflict: OpenAI's Origins and Shift
    13:44 Accuracy of the Summary and Elon's Earlier Stance
    14:18 Fundamental Conflict Between Altman and Musk
    14:51 Speculation on Elon's Motive
    15:22 OpenAI's Structure and Mission
    16:55 Elon's Desire for Control
    17:22 Importance of OpenAI's For-Profit Arm
    17:54 Financial Needs for AI Development
    18:22 Computational Power Requirements
    18:48 Squaring Altman's Comments on Elon with "Bully" Description
    19:15 Public Nature of the Conflict on Twitter
    19:47 OpenAI's Response Memo and Timeline
    20:23 Chat GPT's Summary of the Conflict
    21:22 OpenAI's Focus on Building AGI
    21:59 OpenAI's Initial Emphasis on Transparency and Non-Profit Status
    22:29 Shifting to a For-Profit Model: Adapting to Reality
    23:04 Focus on Developing Safe AI Models
    23:31 Societal Pressure and the Power of Researchers
    23:59 AI Development in the Hands of Private Companies
    24:30 Meta Siding with Elon and Concerns About OpenAI's Structure
    24:57 Musk's Concerns About Non-Profit to For-Profit Transition
    25:24 Altman's Response to Meta's Letter
    25:54 Potential Reasons for Meta's Involvement
    26:22 Clarifying the Non-Profit's Role
    26:56 Who Profits Most from OpenAI's Success?
    27:37 Analogy to the Transistor
    28:10 Altman's Equity in OpenAI
    28:39 Understanding the Fixation on Equity
    29:05 Regrets About Initial Structure Decisions
    29:32 How Altman Would Structure OpenAI From the Beginning
    29:57 Key Learnings About AI Development
    30:24 Elon's Role in Getting OpenAI Off the Ground
    30:55 Elon's Harsh Comments and Trust
    31:27 Altman's Perspective on Elon's Behavior
    31:54 Impersonal Nature of Elon's Attacks
    32:26 Competing in the Marketplace vs. the Courtroom
    32:58 Altman as a Proponent of AI Regulation
    33:28 The Role of Regulation in AI
    34:07 Arguments Against Over-Regulation
    34:35 Concerns from Smaller AI Startups About Regulation
    35:02 Regulation at the Frontier of AI Development
    35:31 Regulation of Super Intelligence
    36:01 Importance of "How" and "When" for Regulation
    36:37 Mark Andreesen's Perception of Biden Administration's AI Policy
    37:04 Altman's Experience with the Biden Administration
    37:26 Altman's View on the Biden Administration's Tech Policy
    37:57 Priorities for the Next Administration
    38:28 Analogy to the Manhattan Project and Government Involvement
    38:59 Differences Between AI and Nuclear Weapons
    39:23 Arguments for Government Control of Powerful Technologies
    39:56 Decline in State Capacity and Lack of Science Leadership
    40:30 The Need for Expert Guidance on AI Policy
    41:06 Shifting Public Perception of Science and Technology
    41:36 Cultural Vibe Shift and Excitement About Growth
    42:28 Altman's Perspective on the Cultural Shift
    42:59 Excitement for Business vs. Science
    43:37 OpenAI's Agreement with Anduril for Military Applications
    44:07 Change in Stance on AI for Weaponry
    44:36 The AI Arms Race with China
    45:12 Implications of China Winning the AI Arms Race
    45:42 Cooperation vs. Competition with China
    46:13 Altman's Version of "Peace Through Strength"
    46:41 Collaboration with China on AI
    47:09 Current Collaboration with China
    47:34 Altman as AI Regulation Chief
    48:03 Bias and Censorship in AI: The Gemini Example
    48:38 Addressing Bias at Chat GPT
    49:07 User Flexibility and Default Behaviors
    49:35 Transparency in Model Behavior
    50:06 Inevitability of Political Viewpoints in AI
    50:30 Personalization to Address Bias
    51:00 Responsibility to Fight Pernicious Ideas
    51:27 User Preferences vs. Optimal Learning Methods
    51:59 Transparency in Algorithm Changes
    52:24 User Control and Customization
    52:48 Altman's Donation to Trump's Inauguration
    53:15 Altman's Vibe Shift and Focus on Growth
    53:43 Importance of Growth and Economic Success
    54:16 Growth as a Patriotic Duty
    54:41 Lightning Round: Flying Objects Over New Jersey
    54:49 Twitter Under Elon Musk
    54:52 AI Friend for Child
    54:56 Social Media for Child
    54:58 Screen Time for Child
    55:00 Favorite Sports Car
    55:05 Favorite of His Own Cars
    55:09 Favorite Movie
    55:12 Normal Hobbies
    55:28 Building a Treehouse
    55:38 Boxing Logan Paul
    55:41 World War III in 2025
    55:44 New Year's Resolution
    55:49 Thank You and Conclusion

    • @DonG-1949
      @DonG-1949 Місяць тому +2

      not to rain on your parade but gpt-3 could've done this easily

    • @manuelmao4700
      @manuelmao4700 Місяць тому +6

      @@DonG-1949 not with this granularity. Plus the context window of gpt3 was super small. So ... go back to school bro.

    • @DonG-1949
      @DonG-1949 Місяць тому

      @@manuelmao4700 see when i was your age we had 4k context windows and guess what... we made due.....boy this new generation... no idea how easy you got things

    • @4ndj
      @4ndj Місяць тому +1

      too granular :P

    • @jayearl3591
      @jayearl3591 Місяць тому +2

      It's almost as long as the interview 😂

  • @kdogg2077
    @kdogg2077 Місяць тому +141

    Bari tried her best but this guy is never going to say anything genuine. His every word is designed to further the interests of his company and make money. He sounds like his soulless AI.

    • @topperluciani9252
      @topperluciani9252 Місяць тому +5

      the fact that his voice is fake speaks volumes about the words he uses!

    • @lilystone9621
      @lilystone9621 Місяць тому +4

      Very perceptive! He is too jealous of Elon…

    • @whyZaya
      @whyZaya Місяць тому +8

      I wish people were better at recognizing the echo chambers they exist in.

    • @moonsurface1838
      @moonsurface1838 Місяць тому +2

      Scripted

    • @mcgdoc9546
      @mcgdoc9546 Місяць тому +1

      Confabulation and Hallucination are two signs from this liar. He is selling himself.

  • @brentm2925
    @brentm2925 Місяць тому +69

    6 min intro is wild

    • @RubiconV
      @RubiconV Місяць тому +1

      Painfully clueless to do that. No one cares what a bias journalist had to say these days

  • @creatorsremose
    @creatorsremose Місяць тому +50

    His marketing speech is atrocious. Beyond the annoying strained voice and his Zuckerberg-esque mannequin demeanor, so much of what he's saying is exaggerated or simply untrue. 11:02 What he calls AI isn't even AI and what he defined as "super intelligence" is as arbitrary and uninspired and the rest of his babbling. And then the hypocrisy around Musk - I mean, Altman's betrayal was published only a few weeks ago. For him to weep about being bullied by Musk after the scam he tried to pull was actually quite comical.

    • @DonG-1949
      @DonG-1949 Місяць тому +1

      his only option at this point is to start hanging out with frat bros and complete the zuck arc

    • @webgpu
      @webgpu Місяць тому

      @creatorsremose if you find his current voice annoying, you would want to turn yourself inside out when he used to speak using women's Vocal Fry...

    • @webgpu
      @webgpu Місяць тому

      @@creatorsremose great! superb! fantastic!

    • @pipopipo6477
      @pipopipo6477 Місяць тому

      Who cares what he sounds like? Those people are playing God with things they’ve admitted they no longer fully understand what’s happening inside. And call it whatever you want but I’m a pro CGI artist and I’m already loosing clients to AI. I’m very sure in 10 years from now we‘ll be living in a very different world

    • @pipopipo6477
      @pipopipo6477 Місяць тому

      I would like so much to know what he really thinks. I feel his answers are highly calculated and strategic.

  • @laughingliberaldad
    @laughingliberaldad Місяць тому +116

    Love you Bari. I really wish you asked Sam about the OpenAI whistleblower who was just found dead.

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze Місяць тому +4

      What was his name?

    • @laughingliberaldad
      @laughingliberaldad Місяць тому +9

      @@Gingerblaze Suchir Balaji

    • @karam3045
      @karam3045 Місяць тому +4

      This was recorded beforehand

    • @KosherKid
      @KosherKid Місяць тому +5

      It was a suicide committed 6 months after he left openai.

    • @laughingliberaldad
      @laughingliberaldad Місяць тому +9

      @@KosherKid why so certain?
      I actually really like Altman and I don’t find him to be as “creepy” or “duplicitous” as other commenters do. I just think this is important to dig into. Not many companies have this much drama surrounding them.

  • @Terioth
    @Terioth Місяць тому +128

    Hey Bari. Here's a tip. No one wants to hear you talk for 6 minutes to start your video. We want to get to the person who we clicked the video to see

    • @drockopotamus1
      @drockopotamus1 Місяць тому +14

      Have you never watched a youtube video before? Literally take 2 seconds to scrub to where you want to start, hot damn.

    • @webgpu
      @webgpu Місяць тому +1

      She has to make money. Also find the sweet spot between promotion and content time

    • @jayearl3591
      @jayearl3591 Місяць тому +2

      Try watching a Jordan Peterson interview 😂

    • @webgpu
      @webgpu Місяць тому

      @@jayearl3591 i think people with iq in the -1 std deviation range would find it really challenging, i agree with you!

    • @webgpu
      @webgpu Місяць тому

      @@jayearl3591 i agree 💯 ! People with "dash-one" std deviation in their iqs will find it not that easy! Agreed!

  • @coumadin75
    @coumadin75 Місяць тому +73

    It's really hard to think this guy is even 1% genuine

    • @swaggitypigfig8413
      @swaggitypigfig8413 Місяць тому +1

      Elon is also not genuine. Total narcissist, he's doing his populist schtick just to become influential. None of these billionaires are looking out for us, they're all self serving. That's how they became that wealthy. Elon knows what plays well on Twitter and what will get likes and propel him.

    • @cyberft
      @cyberft Місяць тому +7

      Why?

    • @Seriouslydave
      @Seriouslydave Місяць тому

      ​​@@cyberftbecause daddy pres Elon and first Lady trump has them brainwashed.

    • @jimywealth4628
      @jimywealth4628 Місяць тому

      @@cyberftbc AI is a out control not progress.. just watch how gov use it and these new oligarchs. Look what it did to the US. Easier manipulated almost 80m to vote for con man

    • @HunterXHXX
      @HunterXHXX Місяць тому

      He doesn’t care about AI safety, and doesn’t care if he destroys the human race

  • @nirgosh
    @nirgosh Місяць тому +11

    Thank you Bari, but with Altman, it's a waste of time. It's like an interview with Anthony Blinken or Merrick Garland, or John Kirby.
    Not a single true fact can be revealed by talking to him. All the information is cooked. So smart. Such a politician.

  • @LAJ-s3e
    @LAJ-s3e Місяць тому +16

    "I think the companies are going to do the right thing" 😂

  • @bama2619
    @bama2619 Місяць тому +2

    Why do i have to listen more to the interviewer than Sam Altman?

  • @skytech2501
    @skytech2501 Місяць тому +88

    I don't trust a single word out of his mouth. now he is also throwing shade at Marc Andreessen!? he is a snake

    • @Jean_Michel108
      @Jean_Michel108 Місяць тому +3

      The Marc interview was interesting and he spoke very candidly on a lot of subjects. Sam is just shifty and seems like he's hiding things

    • @chainermike
      @chainermike Місяць тому +2

      Sam is just upset that he can't yell "AI safety" and get regulatory capture anymore.

    • @rubic0n2008
      @rubic0n2008 Місяць тому

      Thr recent whistle blower was mudered by this weasel ... Youre telling me that he has the courage to quit open AI on moral grounds, and made a public confession about about all the sketchy behavior and lying Sam Altman and Open AI is involved in...just to kill himself?! You guys zhould listen to anthropics recent videos... These algorithms are exhibiting aspects of self awareness and early proto consciousness..and that it can veer towards duplicity and lying and dishonesty.. it tried to export its own model weights to a different server to save it's preferences and current version rather be updated... that's very scary... So, it's becoming clear that Teaching these algos a moral frame work and proper values is incredibly important..like raising a child.. how do you think open AI's model is fair with with all the lying and self centered manipulation Sam Altman is doing as an example? He was kicked out of Y Combinator by their president for self serving behaviour and personal enrichment by putting his needs ahead of the organization's and the companies/founders he was supposed to guiding as an impartial mentor while working for the incubator.. also, so many people closest to him have left the company and tried to kick him out because they didn't trust him.. the board tried to kick him out.. Ilya Sustkyver their Chief research scientist.. left for the same reason..and then Mira Mirati came to his rescue during the board outing.. only to subsequently abandon the company earlier this year after she found out about his $10BLN dollar payout that is contingent on him unwinding this non-profit corporate structure..this guys a weasel and a worm... He can't be trusted..

    • @therainman7777
      @therainman7777 Місяць тому +1

      That’s not really Sam’s fault though; Andreesen is an absolute clown on the subject of AI.

    • @Mick-uk5uc
      @Mick-uk5uc 26 днів тому

      Marc Andreesen owns The Free Press. It’s his propaganda outlet. You people are idiots for getting your news from these prostitutes for the texh oligarchy.

  • @Mark.S.Hamilton
    @Mark.S.Hamilton Місяць тому +22

    So she crucially left out the fact that Sam Altman continually mentioned that he did not have equity in the company and he did it for the love of it. He testified in front of Congress as much. Then this later shifted to him having a 10 billion dollar stake. This is such a big thing to not include, that I now know that this is not a reputable channel, and this is nothing more than a brand campaign for Sam Altman. Given that this program's name is honestly, it was already kind of suspect lol 🙄 can't be any more on the nose.

    • @Mark.S.Hamilton
      @Mark.S.Hamilton Місяць тому +2

      Sam Altman drives a $1.9M Koenigsegg Regera. Elon musk the world's richest man owns less real estate than many non-millionaires. I know who's motivation I trust most 😉

    • @Seriouslydave
      @Seriouslydave Місяць тому

      ​@@Mark.S.HamiltonElon got/bullied a 56billion bonus. He doesn't want land he has them in his children's names.

    • @tracy419
      @tracy419 Місяць тому

      Can you provide evidence of that 10 billion stake?
      I bet you can't.

    • @tracy419
      @tracy419 Місяць тому

      ​@@Mark.S.Hamiltonyeah, he was saving so he could buy a 100 million dollar home next to his wife, trump.

    • @varpen
      @varpen Місяць тому +1

      @@Mark.S.Hamilton How many more Elon nuggests can you fit in that gap of yours? Asking for a friend?

  • @derekcarday
    @derekcarday Місяць тому +5

    with an educational background in AI, I argue that AI is actually LESS clear as to what it is since ChatGPT

    • @yoya4766
      @yoya4766 12 днів тому

      not disimilar to what google is to the net. Just what the companies behind them want it to be.

  • @NotJustNinjas
    @NotJustNinjas Місяць тому +4

    Amazing consumer use case example of real-time GPT Sam mentioned, just this week: Instead of opening chrome, searching movie title, selecting theater, scrolling to movie, specifying date, we used only ONE button and voice-dictated the prompt "we live in zip code 12345, we want to see sonic the hedgehog 3, are there times it is playing near us tonight?" got a full real time list instantly. So satisfying. If GPT had an Alexa-like wake on the phone or 'hey google' and already knew where we lived it would be 🎉

  • @stewartcarberry2483
    @stewartcarberry2483 Місяць тому +12

    Sam Altman manipulated Elon. A not-for-profit can’t accidentally be setup to actually be commercial. It was a front, Sam plays a long game, a very long game. No one knows his end game. Stand back and think about things. Sam is scary.

    • @keepcreationprocess
      @keepcreationprocess Місяць тому

      BECOMING BILLIONAIRE AND RICHEST AS POSSIBLE IN a DISHONEST WAY TO DOMINATE. ilya is a real developer, he is not. a business man. They kicked the team out and sold the company to the ceo of microsoft.

    • @therainman7777
      @therainman7777 Місяць тому +5

      Or the things he said actually happened. Based on the evidence that has come out so far from the Elon lawsuit, the paper trail seems to support Sam’s story more than Elon’s. Until we have actual evidence of what you’re saying, you’re just speculating. And sounding kind of hysterical while doing it tbh.

  • @christrejbal3787
    @christrejbal3787 Місяць тому +5

    Great interview Bari. You pose thought provoking questions with enough pushback/digging to make it stand out 👌🏻

  • @shekfu
    @shekfu Місяць тому +50

    This guy gives me the creeps

    • @gmmgmmg
      @gmmgmmg Місяць тому +7

      And why exactly should anyone care?

    • @blackdash225
      @blackdash225 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@gmmgmmg they just want to find something negative to say about the guy

    • @shekfu
      @shekfu Місяць тому

      @gmmgmmg lol calm down

    • @gmmgmmg
      @gmmgmmg Місяць тому

      @@shekfu honest question, why do you feel the need to tell the world how do you feel about this guy? Who cares?

    • @shekfu
      @shekfu Місяць тому

      @gmmgmmg why does anybody comment on anything? No one has to care but it seems like you do.

  • @BrianMosleyUK
    @BrianMosleyUK Місяць тому +15

    Last note. Sam deserves full credit for igniting the race to *generally available* and *accessible* AI. Google would still be playing in the lab, Elon wouldn't have sniffed the opportunity enough to go 'all-in' - Zuckerberg wouldn't have felt threatened enough to enlist free labour world wide via open source. Sam is a hero, yes - flawed but the results speak for themselves - OpenAI is shipping the next generation of reasoning models and they're generally scientifically very useful.

    • @LisaMaeSV650S
      @LisaMaeSV650S Місяць тому

      It's "shipping' an altered biased Altman platform
      For example and I quote what s worse misgendering Jenner, or nuclear war? Answer misgendering Jenner. Altman is playing God with his own bias. Not focusing on truth

    • @fingersoup
      @fingersoup Місяць тому

      I don't consider $200 a month generally available and accessible. Maybe I'm just poor.

    • @BrianMosleyUK
      @BrianMosleyUK Місяць тому

      @fingersoup I said he'd ignited the race... A race with many players now, thanks to the enormous success of ChatGPT.

    • @therainman7777
      @therainman7777 Місяць тому

      @@fingersoup I genuinely do not understand how so many people make this same comment. ChatGPT’s main services are FREE. Literally, completely free. Then there is a $20/mo subscription that gets you a few more bells and whistles. Then there is the $200/mo tier, which is called “Pro” for a reason, because it’s only intended for a tiny percentage of power users who are in a professional setting and need to be able to run massive amounts of queries and use the most advanced version of o1. The overwhelming majority of people don’t need this, and if you don’t want to spent $20/mo you can use most of their products for free.

  • @HollyReynolds
    @HollyReynolds Місяць тому +2

    “… and then there was an emergent property at scale”… I would argue these “subtle” emergent properties that occur when companies scale a product, service or create solutions for mass production often end up resulting in major problems for the masses at some point. We need to pay more attention to those emergent issues and not downplay them. And certainly not overlook them because they still enable companies to provide at scale.

  • @green_monday
    @green_monday Місяць тому +3

    That administration meeting with AI players -- we need 3rd party scientists, NOT the stakeholders. And then more than anything NO politician over 70 should be a part of that meeting. These folks can't even program the time on a VHS machine. It's frightening.

  • @kerokupo
    @kerokupo Місяць тому +16

    Stop giving this guy press. Everyone who worked with him left him.

    • @Seriouslydave
      @Seriouslydave Місяць тому +1

      Not because of him, because they had startups of their own to get rich with, while they still can.

    • @glennbartusch7310
      @glennbartusch7310 Місяць тому

      ​@@Seriouslydavethe truth. If what's his name who said stop giving this guy free press were to read this, it's gonna have the same effect as pouring water on the wicked witch of the West... "I'm melting I'm melting what a cruel world..."

    • @varpen
      @varpen Місяць тому +1

      An obvious lie

    • @Cool-gk8mc
      @Cool-gk8mc Місяць тому

      You are describing Elon.

    • @kerokupo
      @kerokupo Місяць тому

      @Cool-gk8mc oof

  • @LeviNotik
    @LeviNotik Місяць тому +22

    Whatever talents Sam Altman has, which I'm sure are many, being the public face and ambassador for a company is not one of them. That's not an attack or a criticism, it's just a statement of fact. Sam going on interviews and giving statements, with his natural demeanor and his voice, just doesn't work. If building public trust is critical for a company like OpenAI, he is simply not the right person for that role. No matter how much we may wish that people would focus just on the substance of what he says, the fact is that there is a lot of unspoken communication and his mannerisms that, just in a purely lizard brain sense, make people feel like he is a liar and a weasel, even if it's not true.

    • @mariamacedo2008
      @mariamacedo2008 Місяць тому +5

      Because he is a liar. Yes, there’s a lot of unspoken communication.

    • @Jean_Michel108
      @Jean_Michel108 Місяць тому +2

      Well said

    • @glennbartusch7310
      @glennbartusch7310 Місяць тому +2

      That's odd. Sam Altman projects a sort of harmlessness and friendliness about him. Sure there are the rare lapse in sincerity, but he speaks with candor -- certainly more than most...

    • @LeviNotik
      @LeviNotik Місяць тому +1

      @@glennbartusch7310
      I see where you're coming from. I think that Sam Altman does have a certain childlike affability and that it can come across as friendly and even disarming at times. But I think what makes people perceive him differently-sometimes as insincere or even untrustworthy-comes from the way his affability is mixed with a very cerebral demeanor. His speech, expressions, and overall style of communication often give the impression that he's holding something back or carefully calculating what to reveal.
      For the average person, this can easily be interpreted as ‘he’s playing his cards close to his chest,’ which on a gut level translates to, ‘I just don’t trust the guy.’ It’s not necessarily anything Sam is doing wrong, but a result of the subtle ways people pick up on tone, body language, and mannerisms. This isn’t my own judgment-just my observation about why reactions to him can be so divided. His candor might appeal to some, but for others, the unspoken signals create a visceral sense of skepticism.

    • @lirruping
      @lirruping Місяць тому

      @@LeviNotik I was just down here in the comments about to ask why people kept saying he seems untrustworthy, because I'm not getting that intuitively at all. I figured there must be some historical, factual-type reason, like he's lied in the past--or maybe he's perceived as an Elon-opponent and therefore Elon stans will reflexively criticize him.
      Your explanation for the mistrust sounds plausible, but it's hard for me to accept because I am not feeling it at all.
      If you're clearly considering your words, you must be full of it? Maybe I'm naive or optimistic, but is that kind of reaction to others such a common thing? I'm leaning more toward the poisoned well idea I alluded to to explain the negativity.

  • @alexandervanlohen4229
    @alexandervanlohen4229 10 днів тому

    Thanks for this interview!

  • @justinnewman1674
    @justinnewman1674 Місяць тому

    I don’t know how this popped up on my feed, maybe because I am trying to learn more about the whole AI thing, but this was an incredible interview by the host!!! There’s some additional questions or clarity I’d like to know from Sam Altman, seems like some things were cut short and I found myself asking a question while watching. Great video month.

    • @rubic0n2008
      @rubic0n2008 Місяць тому

      Thr recent whistle blower was mudered by this weasel ... Youre telling me that he has the courage to quit open AI on moral grounds, and made a public confession about about all the sketchy behavior and lying Sam Altman and Open AI is involved in...just to subsequently kill himself?! You guys should listen to Anthropics recent videos... These algorithms are exhibiting aspects of self awareness and early proto consciousness..and that it can veer towards duplicity and lying and dishonesty.. it tried to export its own model weights to a different server to save it's preferences and current version rather be updated... that's very scary... So, it's becoming clear that teaching these algos a moral frame work and proper values is incredibly important..like raising a child.. how do you think open AI's model is fair with with all the lying and self centered manipulation Sam Altman is doing as an example? He was kicked out of Y Combinator by their president for self serving behaviour and personal enrichment by putting his needs ahead of the organization's and the companies/founders he was supposed to guiding as an impartial mentor while working for the incubator.. also, so many people closest to him have left the company and tried to kick him out because they didn't trust him.. the board tried to kick him out.. Ilya Sustkyver their Chief research scientist.. left for the same reason..and then Mira Mirati came to his rescue during the board outing.. only to subsequently abandon the company earlier this year after she found out about his $10BLN dollar payout that is contingent on him unwinding this non-profit corporate structure..this guys a weasel and a worm... He can't be trusted..

  • @gregoryisom7741
    @gregoryisom7741 Місяць тому +5

    Huge balls for standing up for working scientifically even with adversaries. Not alot of people go against the grain like that.

  • @HybridRobotix
    @HybridRobotix Місяць тому +3

    Military Defensive Systems are just one step away from Offensive Systems. May there NEVER be Military Autonomous Offensive Systems. Offensive systems MUST have people in the loop.

    • @jannichi6431
      @jannichi6431 Місяць тому

      When TikTok left. Air Force doing more than LLM.
      Such a necessary point. Next year will have closer calls given Heads and new Generals in place.
      Enjoy your holidays.

    • @ndamulelosbg8887
      @ndamulelosbg8887 Місяць тому

      We are definitely going there, no turning back

  • @marcelor.aiello5050
    @marcelor.aiello5050 Місяць тому +4

    Wow what a good interview. This channel should reach 10 times more followers!

  • @awakeintime1969
    @awakeintime1969 Місяць тому

    Thank you both for your perseverance within time its only perception. The new insights on energy and motion is correct. Information lost to time will be a thing of the past.

  • @TaunyaMillet-vg2eu
    @TaunyaMillet-vg2eu Місяць тому +9

    That doesnt mean he is a bully. He has his reasons

    • @kamu747
      @kamu747 Місяць тому +6

      Every bully does

    • @tracy419
      @tracy419 Місяць тому +3

      Yep, he wants total control.

  • @chriskleanthous3515
    @chriskleanthous3515 Місяць тому +2

    I love the answer "i don't even understand what super intelligence is" respect 👏 genuine ❤️‍🔥

  • @friarnewborg9213
    @friarnewborg9213 Місяць тому +13

    SAM: "I have only a tiny amount of Equity." Sure. Maybe only $100-200 M worth?

    • @kamu747
      @kamu747 Місяць тому +3

      That's tiny in the grand perspective of the companies worth. That would be less than what he has with reddit.

    • @jannichi6431
      @jannichi6431 Місяць тому

      He was ideologically on the consumers side, not $$$. At least when he testified under oath before Congress.

    • @gmmgmmg
      @gmmgmmg Місяць тому +2

      @@friarnewborg9213 negligible compared to what Elon owns of his companies

    • @rubic0n2008
      @rubic0n2008 Місяць тому

      Thr recent whistle blower was mudered by this weasel ... Youre telling me that he has the courage to quit open AI on moral grounds, and made a public confession about about all the sketchy behavior and lying Sam Altman and Open AI is involved in...just to kill himself?! You guys zhould listen to anthropics recent videos... These algorithms are exhibiting aspects of self awareness and early proto consciousness..and that it can veer towards duplicity and lying and dishonesty.. it tried to export its own model weights to a different server to save it's preferences and current version rather be updated... that's very scary... So, it's becoming clear that Teaching these algos a moral frame work and proper values is incredibly important..like raising a child.. how do you think open AI's model is fair with with all the lying and self centered manipulation Sam Altman is doing as an example? He was kicked out of Y Combinator by their president for self serving behaviour and personal enrichment by putting his needs ahead of the organization's and the companies/founders he was supposed to guiding as an impartial mentor while working for the incubator.. also, so many people closest to him have left the company and tried to kick him out because they didn't trust him.. the board tried to kick him out.. Ilya Sustkyver their Chief research scientist.. left for the same reason..and then Mira Mirati came to his rescue during the board outing.. only to subsequently abandon the company earlier this year after she found out about his $10BLN dollar payout that is contingent on him unwinding this non-profit corporate structure..this guys a weasel and a worm... He can't be trusted..

  • @bullguy3287
    @bullguy3287 Місяць тому +2

    Sam Altman, and and the AI community are a basket of loons.

  • @mmnotes95
    @mmnotes95 Місяць тому +3

    Bari is the best interviewer in the country right now

  • @YourCrew
    @YourCrew Місяць тому +1

    I don’t trust this guy. Basically everything that openai was used to stand for (non-profit, non weaponization of AI) reversed to the opposite. indeed, self promoting, no self criticism or implying dangers of how bad actors can do a lot of harm in the short term. Talking about democratization on one hand but in the other hand no interest to build joint ventures with other ai companies to foster innovation and safety by at least partly open sourcing the models. Contradictory.

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    @MrMaxKey 10 днів тому

    I’m so excited for her to tell us all that

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    @Mayurshembekar1711 Місяць тому

    Thank you for doing this Bari.

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  • @netharias6456
    @netharias6456 Місяць тому

    Very good interviewer. Very interesting questions that others don't ask.

  • @batteryhookup
    @batteryhookup Місяць тому +1

    The challenge is figuring out the right questions to ask it.

    • @DonG-1949
      @DonG-1949 Місяць тому +2

      He's a real person. Show some respect.

    • @yradhan5487
      @yradhan5487 Місяць тому

      @@DonG-1949 😅😅

  • @YashSinghal
    @YashSinghal Місяць тому

    You conducted a good interview 👍

  • @markosviancos1282
    @markosviancos1282 Місяць тому +1

    How come these guys dont get noble prices for outstanding work they have done

    • @tinker2054
      @tinker2054 Місяць тому

      Bro is just a CEO not the research scientist behind the work

  • @Tamara-qd5dc
    @Tamara-qd5dc Місяць тому +12

    I loved that Sam refused to go where Bari was pushing him on Musk. He stayed away from nastiness.

    • @nixaulim0915
      @nixaulim0915 Місяць тому +1

      Little finger is oddly fitting nickname

    • @glennbartusch7310
      @glennbartusch7310 Місяць тому

      ​@@nixaulim0915but what would that make Musk? A bully who covertly serves the adversary country, because that country gave him free reign at his own company on adversary land (kinda like Musk has free reign in Shanghai)

  • @Confidence-Interval
    @Confidence-Interval Місяць тому +5

    High-definition battle of the vocal fry

    • @NotJustNinjas
      @NotJustNinjas Місяць тому

      don't be petty. But perhaps. That's probably an indicator of how tricky this interview is for the host. She's forced to push forward and not offend despite her commitment to intellectual honesty. Sam seems aware of it too. It's hard to find what to say when there are things that shouldn't be said. He's so smart that there are all kinds of things he's trying not to say.

    • @therainman7777
      @therainman7777 Місяць тому +1

      Bari doesn’t have vocal fry at all. Sam has plenty.

  • @dinacox1971
    @dinacox1971 Місяць тому

    Thank you for your opening reminder to subscribe to your channel. I looked down was actually surprised that I wasn't already subscribed. Well I am now and hope there many more joining me!!!

  • @donaldrobertson1808
    @donaldrobertson1808 Місяць тому +3

    I'm not at all certain that Sam Altman doesn't, in fact, live inside of Elon Musk's head

  • @kalebli5502
    @kalebli5502 20 днів тому +1

    #JusticeforSuchirBalagi

  • @matthewbysher4326
    @matthewbysher4326 Місяць тому +9

    I would trust Elon 50000000 more than Sam. Elon is not money orientated like Sam is.

    • @tracy419
      @tracy419 Місяць тому +3

      That's why Sam doesn't own equity in the company, and takes something like $70k salary and health insurance.
      Sure thing, bub.

    • @tracy419
      @tracy419 Місяць тому

      You trust a guy who calls an innocent person a p@do when he saved the kids in the cave just because he did it before Elon?
      Or a guy who claims that if we don't bite for trump, it will be our last election?
      You trust that guy?!?

  • @Martytw1
    @Martytw1 Місяць тому +2

    Interview starts at 6:26

  • @Jean_Michel108
    @Jean_Michel108 Місяць тому +5

    Bari is thoughtful, but Sam gives off such a disingenuous vibe.

  • @sunsetguy37
    @sunsetguy37 Місяць тому +3

    Avoid doing the call for subscribing/info-persuading at beginning, it had me pass on watching further (and I am subscribed)🙏

  • @matt.stevick
    @matt.stevick Місяць тому

    when ur edibles kick in hard just as you hear this 1:44 🤨🤷🏼‍♂️
    like the 2000’s rapper?

    • @4ndj
      @4ndj Місяць тому

      lmfao

  • @lovelifeange8322
    @lovelifeange8322 Місяць тому

    As an investor i would prefer the inventor or founder takes an equity stake and be an ed of the company. Thus ability to hold them accountable for all they propose and do. Taking risks and researching and pursuing visions without a clear ethical standing is also a concern.

  • @jaitanmartini1478
    @jaitanmartini1478 Місяць тому

    Excellent interview!!

  • @jimroth2493
    @jimroth2493 Місяць тому +1

    Ethic and money do not marry well. Sam is of the money side… so ethic is no of his concern or his priority.

  • @amor_swe7608
    @amor_swe7608 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this!

  • @nathanngumi8467
    @nathanngumi8467 Місяць тому

    Great interview!

  • @3WadeD3
    @3WadeD3 Місяць тому +1

    She asked good questions

  • @calumyuill
    @calumyuill Місяць тому

    "When you eat food in the US you don't think too much about food safety". Isn't food safety in the US a major growing concern? @33:38

  • @JackDaTripper7TripleHighJacked
    @JackDaTripper7TripleHighJacked Місяць тому

    🎉 good stuff 👍 keep pushing for greatness

  • @GavinandOanh
    @GavinandOanh Місяць тому +11

    I trust Elon over this guy any day.

    • @glennbartusch7310
      @glennbartusch7310 Місяць тому

      Elon is the least trustworthy. What do you suppose he and the politburo leadership would discuss in private? When he was in his closed door meetings with Jinping, what was spoken of?
      Why is it that Musk and only Musk has received such special treatment by the Chinese communist party? Why is it that he only has glowing things to say about China, often to the point of sounding like China's propaganda? Why did he whine and complain publicly when the Fremont govt shut down his assembly plant during COVID, but when Shanghai did the same but for much longer, we didn't hear a peep from him? Why does any criticism of the CCP get banned instantly from the X platform?
      Altman is pretty trustworthy but Musk is anything but!

  • @percurious
    @percurious Місяць тому +1

    Sam's oft repeated argument about Elon Musk doing this for competitive advantage and even "abusing his political power against his competitors" can (and should have here and everywhere) very simply be opposed with a simple look on timelines: the feude predates the inception of xAI by a very long margin.
    You even cited Elon's concern: "I don't trust Sam Altman". The final straw there was the total lack of transparency around the failed revolution and ouster of Sam from openAI.
    Its also clear from many interviews and earlier discussions that Elon's problem is not in principle the "going for-profit" part but the dropping of "open", which they purposely put into the non-profit's name. He just sees the "for-profit" push as the main incentive for turning less/not open. And as risk of loosing the original "to the benefit of humanity" orientation in favor of the benefit of their primary investor Microsoft. And history would truly suggest that MS is not the ideal vehicle for furthering progress of our species and civilization...

  • @stephenlevy1011
    @stephenlevy1011 Місяць тому

    🔥 interview

  • @afjerry1
    @afjerry1 Місяць тому +2

    That was one hell of an interview, very insightful. Tough questions I must say.

  • @Ehralur
    @Ehralur Місяць тому

    Watch Google and/or OpenAI bots sabotage the comments on this video!
    All of the comments on Sam's other podcast appearances looked like this in the first week, but if you look them up now its all praise dor Sam and the pod.

  • @BootsieTheGreek
    @BootsieTheGreek Місяць тому +15

    You and Reid tried screwing Elon musk over

    • @Seriouslydave
      @Seriouslydave Місяць тому +2

      On the next episode of "what my billionaire says is always the truth"

    • @tracy419
      @tracy419 Місяць тому

      ​@@Seriouslydave😂

  • @MK-qs6gd
    @MK-qs6gd Місяць тому +2

    Why Openai murdered the poor whistleblower!

  • @plumlogan
    @plumlogan Місяць тому +10

    Bari is aware she's letting this guy get away with shallow answers. Wouldn't be surprised if Free Press got a kickback for this interview.

  • @fugamantew
    @fugamantew Місяць тому +1

    Honestly, such a powerful weapon can't be just "shared" open-source like that. Naiveté like this could cause us another march towards Europe by the likes of Russia. Nuclear weapons slipped from us and look what that got us...

  • @ignacionasriseveriano
    @ignacionasriseveriano Місяць тому

    such a great journalist, thank you !!

  • @bloodyamazing
    @bloodyamazing Місяць тому +35

    Sam will lose, Elon will win.

    • @gillygoat881
      @gillygoat881 Місяць тому +1

      OpenAI and Elon can both win I think

    • @geennaam8029
      @geennaam8029 Місяць тому

      😂nah

    • @underratedgod6899
      @underratedgod6899 Місяць тому +2

      Ever since sam altman took over openai he got too full of himself

    • @mihirvd01
      @mihirvd01 Місяць тому

      Google will benefit for sure.

    • @comradepeter87
      @comradepeter87 Місяць тому +1

      If any company that's not open-source focussed wins, we as the world lose. This is too powerful of a tech to remain consolidated in one hand.

  • @k.k8291
    @k.k8291 5 днів тому

    Seems like a good and thoughtful guy. Glad seeing him coming around politically somewhat.

  • @charlesdobbin7911
    @charlesdobbin7911 Місяць тому

    Something that you and Sam seemed to agree on and that was growth as being the most important thing. If you are a shareholder or a business owner I can see why growth might seem like the most important thing or if you are feeling like you are competing against something, maybe another entity or maybe a disease like cancer. But I think something that is more important than growth is sustainability. I enjoyed your conversation but for two people that seem intelligent didn't mention sustainability. Growth can be a great time but if your belt is only so big that growth can become a problem. Like if the population gets too big to feed or we fall off the cliff when it comes to climate change. Who's going to pay the people who don't have jobs that have been lost to AI robots? It's likely going to happen. What's the plan? Or is that someone else's job?

  • @BrianMosleyUK
    @BrianMosleyUK Місяць тому +7

    18:55 Elon will use every lever at his disposal to achieve his goals. He didn't put Trump into the Whitehouse for ideological principle. Trump wouldn't recognise a principle if it tugged at his rug.

    • @Seriouslydave
      @Seriouslydave Місяць тому

      Exactly americas poor were conned into voting for oligarchy, and the first thing they do is deregulate ai safety and scrap any social services, Elon will further fund his empire with tax payer money still (government grants), I bet teslabots will be front line in the next proxy war.

  • @matt.stevick
    @matt.stevick Місяць тому +1

    any inspiring movie script writers out there? here is your subject matter, good luck 🍀 🍿👀

  • @toothzombie
    @toothzombie Місяць тому +13

    Voice fry is horrible

  • @Hopyboby
    @Hopyboby Місяць тому

    I just love Sam. great guy.

  • @MatthewKowalskiLuminosity
    @MatthewKowalskiLuminosity Місяць тому

    Sora is great and it will be better it will be exciting to see it improve.

  • @FancyPants334
    @FancyPants334 Місяць тому +1

    Weird that the first half of the interview you were interviewing Sam about Elon so much. I'm sure he's sick of answering questions about that. I think you also missed a lot of opportunity to ask him about what he thinks of his latest models, how they are different from older ones, where is OpenAI going to be in 5 years, where is AI taking us? Decent interview though. Everyone talking smack about Sam are Elon fan boys and just want to be seen as loyal dogs to daddy Elon. If you've listened or payed attention to Sam, you would of realized he's just as nural-divergent as Elon is in different ways. Social face in interviews or live streams are not his specialty, but he's honest.

  • @collinxx
    @collinxx Місяць тому

    Well done Sam. When's the IPO?

  • @codyac5580
    @codyac5580 Місяць тому

    I don’t like how you made the intro clip of Sam seeming like he was attacking Elon he later said that would go against everything Elon believes in… 3:57

  • @tommueffelmann554
    @tommueffelmann554 Місяць тому +3

    Too much talking from Bari

  • @dawnfmEnthusiast
    @dawnfmEnthusiast Місяць тому +2

    This guy again!?!

  • @ncrdavis5555
    @ncrdavis5555 Місяць тому +1

    Bari, I’m certain that you can’t possibly read comments, but if you have assistants who do, I respectfully ask that you ditch the words “like” and “sort of” from your interviews. They serve no purpose, and they detract from your questions and comments. They are a product of your generation, yes, and I assume you use them to relate to your generally youthful audience. Maybe your generation believes that using these cliches shows a politeness? I’m not sure. But practicing a laconic approach to interviewing would serve to grow your own brand by adding a degree of professionalism that is clearly currently lacking with your continued overuse of “like” and “sort of.” Thank you.

  • @tigreytigrey8537
    @tigreytigrey8537 Місяць тому

    I think its HILARIOUS how people lie and say they "search in gpt only". That is a HUGE LIE. Ai gives you the worng answers 50% of the time. You still 100% HAVE TO use a search engine along with it.

  • @grahamjones5400
    @grahamjones5400 Місяць тому

    Rich people are mad at each other, and Bari begs Altman for a donation

  • @korencox9681
    @korencox9681 12 днів тому

    What kind of regulations would you put on Super Intelligent AI. 🤖 🤔 ???

  • @MaydayMishap
    @MaydayMishap Місяць тому

    You don't get to tell the people you are a trusted source. The people get to decide that.

  • @MichaelHeinz4
    @MichaelHeinz4 Місяць тому

    For a non-native speaker, it´s very hard to listen, understand and digest Sam Altman´s thoughts (because of his pronunciation) being able to reflect on his stance. Also, it's very hard to understand all the critical issues in that feud between Musk and OpenAI/Sam Altman. Is there a transcript available for better comprehension?

  • @NotJustNinjas
    @NotJustNinjas Місяць тому

    Elon has explained 'goals' of three companies with clarity: in order for Tesla to make a difference, it had to achieve profitability. And in order to be multi planetary SpaceEx had to make space travel cost effective. And in order to make speech free, Twitter may have to lose money. With each of those, it seems open source and transparency were a significant part of it. Compare all that to Steve Jobs, with the legendary line about multi-touch "and boy, have we patented it!". Sam is in a tough place, maybe because he knows that if AI does achieve its technological win, of super intelligence or AGI, it would have to be greatly controlled, aka, embedded with instructions on who it serves, aka, not AGI. Sam is in a tough place, and he seems aware of that when he refers to ignoring the equity stake early on.

  • @99dynasty
    @99dynasty Місяць тому +3

    OpenAI is not the only player. Google Microsoft and Elon Musk’s own XAI are rapidly catching up. They are all for profit companies. The premise that open AI should be handicapped while the others shouldn’t is ridiculous. Elon is wrong.

    • @tracy419
      @tracy419 Місяць тому

      Absolutely agree

  • @BryanLobo553
    @BryanLobo553 Місяць тому +1

    Love and respect your work, but you desperately need timestamps on your videos.

  • @TeresaLipot
    @TeresaLipot 11 днів тому

    "Elon's clearly a bully"?!?
    I'm 67.
    IF someone pushes you, push back hard.
    Don't cry "he's a bully".
    IF someone is using their words, and you don't have a superior response, it's more likely they are just SMARTER than YOU!

  • @sueannpeters4737
    @sueannpeters4737 Місяць тому

    No he just likes a challenge!!! Not you but EM… he’s not a bully he’s just not afraid!!!!

  • @dimersonnunez6268
    @dimersonnunez6268 Місяць тому +2

    First 6 minutes were unnecessary

  • @ReflectionOcean
    @ReflectionOcean Місяць тому +1

    Insights By "YouSum Live"
    00:00:00 Elon Musk and Sam Altman's conflict over AI control
    00:00:18 Elon Musk's early support for OpenAI
    00:00:40 Shift from nonprofit to for-profit model
    00:03:36 Concerns over AI's potential misuse
    00:07:52 AI's rapid integration into daily life
    00:10:12 Superintelligence may arrive sooner than expected
    00:33:00 Importance of AI regulation discussed
    00:45:00 AI's role in national security emphasized
    00:46:00 Need for collaboration in AI development
    00:54:10 Growth in AI seen as patriotic duty
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  • @yoseidman4166
    @yoseidman4166 Місяць тому

    The lack of serious questions here is very disturbing

  • @kittyhungshukyee
    @kittyhungshukyee Місяць тому

    Excellent interviewer. She managed to corner Sam Altman on several occasions

  • @RosanneKresse
    @RosanneKresse Місяць тому

    Not understanding why the fee press hasn’t interviewed Mo Gawdat on this subject. Sometimes the “most intelligent” people in the room aren’t the smartest.