5:15 yeah no the medival age chaos gods has been retconned out for good reason. It does not make sense for one planet to active them when slaanesh require the eldari galaxy wide orgy to do so.
Exactly. I think a more contemporary way of looking at it is that humanity attracted the already existent Chaos Gods over that stated period, and then started to feed and shape those already existing gods with human emotions, concepts and souls...
*Stormbringer is the true "origin" of CHAOS in Warhammer.* cough cough I was there when the first aspiring champions of chaos were tempted by the fruit of another. Good times. Loved playing everything I could back then and painting mini's made with lead. LoL
You managed to sum up all my complaints with just 3 words..... All 3 of those can mean the same thing....... Or..... my biggest issue with Imperial authority.....
I'm sorry, you're saying that the human empire in physical space, the warp, and a massive meshing of the two in a specific position in space somehow mean the same thing?
@@logangodofcandy He's pointing out the narrator kept leaving out the definite article for things like "the Warp" and would just say "Warp". It happens dozens of times throughout the video.
Ahriman may be the most powerful sorcerer but he isnt the most gifted psycher, since Mephiston can beat even his primarch Magnus. He is known to be the most gifted psycher next to the Emperor himself that is known to have ever existed.
That's a good point I have never thought about... Man I feel stupid for not picking up on that. If there are no mortals to offer up negative spiritual energy then do they just stop getting more powerful or do they slowly die? Or do all the followers keep it alive?
No lore reason I don't think, but my head cannon is that the war in heaven polluted the warp and evil is a lot more aggressive than good, so Amy good things cannot gain purchase there, especially with the galaxy being as it is
Trillions and trillions of highly psychic beings fighting for untold number of millennia vs. a few million (if that) non-psychic humans fighting on Earth. It seems highly unlikely that Humans awoke any of the chaos gods, but I guess I did not write the lore.
4:45 I remain amused at the differences between Khaine and Khorne..... As if the spelling alone has some synergy..... You say awakened, I say intentionally repurposed with less upper management, if the Eldar are to be given "any" credit on shackling such a Daemon for millions of years...... Just remember when Slanesh tried to eat Khaine, someone else showed up and said "fuck off.... He is mine......." And she, at the height of her power, very unwillingly listened........ Aka you are right, but the path to that right is missing a lot of context......
one of the new theroys i love is the dead gods at the bottem of the warp honestly we dont no chaos could be what is just on the top of the ocaen thats why i love it also the crying chaos god wich could mean undivided and what if the dark king was first and telling clues threw out time to big e to lead him to his doom?
One day, I truly hope GW retcons this. To my mind, the idea that 3 Chaos Gods were born by Man is just sheer nonsense. Especially when the Aeldari of the time numbered in the trillions to birth Slaanesh. It would be more sensible to say that the Ruinous Powers were born in the War of Heaven.
What? Weren't three gods slowly coaleced into existence during the war in heaven? 65 million years ago? Them existing due to just few billion humans on one planet is beyond stupid. Even Trazyn laughs at self importance humanity prescribes itself.
@@RichD424 I just checked again, and indeed the lore that has Nurgle as the oldest God was somewhat retconned. However, according to the newer lore, the gods are MUCH older than mankind.
@@LukazChrom they are but warp time as we know is an enigma. Even though the time of their birth is the Middle Ages they have always existed in the warp.
_"Hermaphrodite"_ feels for intersex people just like the n-word feels for people of african descent, the f-word for gays and the r-word for people such as me who are on the spectrum. Don't mean to be preachy, just pointing it out because many people are sincerely not aware about it - I myself only got sensibilized about it quite recently.
If you're gonna use chatgpt to write your script, you at least need to proofread it. This is riddled with grammar and lore errors.
is it actually written by chatgpt? I've thought that after listening to a few of the videos.
Yeah this was very jarring. Gonna give this channel a rest for a while. Come here for good lore content, not laziness.
Laziness is to be lauded when done well, this was a decent attempt
lol “ the MOON wolves”.
The audio is messed up at 19:25
5:15 yeah no the medival age chaos gods has been retconned out for good reason. It does not make sense for one planet to active them when slaanesh require the eldari galaxy wide orgy to do so.
Exactly. I think a more contemporary way of looking at it is that humanity attracted the already existent Chaos Gods over that stated period, and then started to feed and shape those already existing gods with human emotions, concepts and souls...
*Stormbringer is the true "origin" of CHAOS in Warhammer.* cough cough
I was there when the first aspiring champions of chaos were tempted by the fruit of another. Good times. Loved playing everything I could back then and painting mini's made with lead. LoL
So true! Moorcock has even commented on Warhammer Chaos, which wouldn't exist without the Eternal Champion novels...
GM stole from Moorcock.
lol. That’s when you had a games workshop pal do a metal blitz order and had 5 years worth of models for $10. Bucks.
@@17Watmanthere’s no way that name is real😂
THE Imperium. THE Immaterium. THE Eye of Terror...
You managed to sum up all my complaints with just 3 words..... All 3 of those can mean the same thing....... Or..... my biggest issue with Imperial authority.....
@@steelgreyed I believe I used eight words, not three...
@@Robert_Douglass I was pointing at your 3 context nouns.... I agree, objectiveness gets wonky after 4.
I'm sorry, you're saying that the human empire in physical space, the warp, and a massive meshing of the two in a specific position in space somehow mean the same thing?
@@logangodofcandy He's pointing out the narrator kept leaving out the definite article for things like "the Warp" and would just say "Warp". It happens dozens of times throughout the video.
I have long maintained that the decimal regime is leading us to damnation. It is nice to be vindicated by a scholar of this calibre.
I’ve always wondered if there were pockets in the warp where ‘good’ emotions have sway. A calm tropical isle of sorts.
Wait, the Moon Wolves? Oh no, Abaddon was a Moon Moon!
Ahriman may be the most powerful sorcerer but he isnt the most gifted psycher, since Mephiston can beat even his primarch Magnus. He is known to be the most gifted psycher next to the Emperor himself that is known to have ever existed.
@@timcusack9388 I am not entirely sure which one I was referring to in that second sentence honestly. Do you mean THE as in currently or as in EVER?
That thumbnail picture goes hard af.
Dark gods, Dark apostles, Dark priests, is their an equivalent Light counterpart or is term Dark just redundant?
Damn. How many clips have you produced in advance to this push?? :)
If the gods win everyone including themselves, lose.
That's a good point I have never thought about... Man I feel stupid for not picking up on that. If there are no mortals to offer up negative spiritual energy then do they just stop getting more powerful or do they slowly die? Or do all the followers keep it alive?
@@GalaxyBrain88 it’s even worse, they end up fighting each other to death for what amounts to scrap
I be dodging draft in Slaneesh realm.
An end is another begging
They already won. The materium is their feeding grounds.
A question that bugs me is why all the negative emotions reside in the WARP. Why not the good ones also? 🧐🧐
There are tales told of such events. Who believes what is half the equation. How big their soul is the other factor.
No lore reason I don't think, but my head cannon is that the war in heaven polluted the warp and evil is a lot more aggressive than good, so Amy good things cannot gain purchase there, especially with the galaxy being as it is
Because humans have more negative emotions than positive ones
Trillions and trillions of highly psychic beings fighting for untold number of millennia vs. a few million (if that) non-psychic humans fighting on Earth. It seems highly unlikely that Humans awoke any of the chaos gods, but I guess I did not write the lore.
Maybe the other aliens didn’t have strong enough emotions?
possible to get these on spotify?
I second that
An RSS feed would be nice too
4:45 I remain amused at the differences between Khaine and Khorne..... As if the spelling alone has some synergy..... You say awakened, I say intentionally repurposed with less upper management, if the Eldar are to be given "any" credit on shackling such a Daemon for millions of years...... Just remember when Slanesh tried to eat Khaine, someone else showed up and said "fuck off.... He is mine......." And she, at the height of her power, very unwillingly listened........ Aka you are right, but the path to that right is missing a lot of context......
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!
You can make me bleed all you want, but it won’t just be blood that’s coming out~
😉
Great comment
For the Emperor!!!!
@@silent_stalker3687slaaneshi cultist moment
Cmon man. Blood for the blood god. Skills for the skull Thrones. This is lazy
So basically, these warp entities are basically our emotional leftovers?
Love the accent and way to read
Just started listening but declaring it heresy JIC
No time rn but like n comment for the rhythm
What a lazy attempt.
ChatGPT script and ia voiced with ia « art » as thumbnail.
Is anything in this video man made beside the illustrations?
one of the new theroys i love is the dead gods at the bottem of the warp honestly we dont no chaos could be what is just on the top of the ocaen thats why i love it also the crying chaos god wich could mean undivided and what if the dark king was first and telling clues threw out time to big e to lead him to his doom?
The is the Immateriamum? Is the echo of the previous universe? Nobody ever explains the origins of the Warp.
Abaddon the despoiler=Sauron the Deceiver prove me wrong "GW" and stop taking my money lol
One day, I truly hope GW retcons this. To my mind, the idea that 3 Chaos Gods were born by Man is just sheer nonsense.
Especially when the Aeldari of the time numbered in the trillions to birth Slaanesh.
It would be more sensible to say that the Ruinous Powers were born in the War of Heaven.
What? Weren't three gods slowly coaleced into existence during the war in heaven? 65 million years ago? Them existing due to just few billion humans on one planet is beyond stupid. Even Trazyn laughs at self importance humanity prescribes itself.
Nvm, we are on a same page. Just didn't have a clue this could ever be considered ad cannon still..
4:44 Sorry but this is blatantly wrong.
The first Chaos god to awaken was Nurgle.
Nah it was the Blood God. The first murder birthed him.
@@RichD424 I just checked again, and indeed the lore that has Nurgle as the oldest God was somewhat retconned.
However, according to the newer lore, the gods are MUCH older than mankind.
@@LukazChrom they are but warp time as we know is an enigma. Even though the time of their birth is the Middle Ages they have always existed in the warp.
Praise Chaos, are true salvation.
02:53 wait, so slanesh created chaos? Wtf
Luna wolves
Ecekal?
_"Hermaphrodite"_ feels for intersex people just like the n-word feels for people of african descent, the f-word for gays and the r-word for people such as me who are on the spectrum.
Don't mean to be preachy, just pointing it out because many people are sincerely not aware about it - I myself only got sensibilized about it quite recently.
isnt hermaphrodite the thing with snails where one day they've got a vagaga and another day a cock
And? Kindly don’t police language
Karen mode activated. Triggered for someone else
@@LordoftheSith?
@@thebunz7 🤣
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First
Great comment
who cares
@@Witherknight you apparently
Wow, such an amazing achievement, writing the word 'first' on a you tube video! You'll go far
@@Pugggle far enough to make you post lmao