at 70's hungary it was pretty common to use ground water to heat greenhouses. made with dual layer plastic foil and there was a sprayers between two layer. the ground water here always around 8-10C and that kept 8-10C inside the greenhouse even at -27C. this was enough for lettuce, radishes, onions, root vegetables.
Awesome! 🦋 I love the rock walls to temper the temperatures, holding the heat for winter nights and sucking up the heat for hot summer days! Someone said to hang cut out life size photos or drawings of cabbage butterflies around your brassica plants. Apparently they are territorial and don’t go to a brassica plant when there is another of their species already there.
Great green house and brilliant approach. Your use of the treeline as protection from the hot sun in the summer while being beneficial in the cold months reflects someone who is aware of their environment. Well done sir.
I appreciate the humor on what could sometimes be a boring subject. You make it fun to learn about all of the topics you cover. You look like you're having fun teaching. Love your energy. Keep up the good work.!😊
Awesome greenhouse. My wife and I built our 10ft by 16ft greenhouse a couple of years ago, and I put six 65-gallon food safe plastic olive barrels underneath our greenhouse. They are filled with rain water, which I collect from the roof. We took advantage of the trees to block the sun in the summer, and it works very well. Plus, the northwestern side is sheilded by a hill, that blocks the winds here in PA. Craigslist and marketplace kept our total costs to about $2500. Thank you for your videos that we help us improve our greenhouse. Happy holidays!
I live in Massachusetts, and have seen a few of these bioshelter greenhouses in action, including the huge one at the Sirius community, which was so warm , that i needed to be shirtless on a February afternoon, in the teens outside, without any extra heat being added, or the much smaller one at Paradise Lot in Holyoke. This technology is super effective, not terribly expensive, considering , and greatly improves the quality of life for local sustainable eating for anyone in a temperate 4 season climate
Nice! Love to see the incorporation of geothermal despite being fully above ground. Would love to see you engineer some way of using snow melt for winter watering.
Hello, I like this awesome build, you really did think this thru... except in both the videos I never heard you talk about the soil quality, and how you manage that. Soil needs to be in balance with minerals and soillive to grow vegs and so on.. greetings
Might i ask the dimensions of your raised bed to get a proper idea? I've got half a hole for my GAHT waiting since spring of this year. Time's running... Your videos are always a great joy with a high educational value. The cut-scenes of later videos also provide a small idea about how much work stands behind all those videos. Chapeau!
Howdy! 10'x12' I hear ya on the time slipping away aspect...I feel like every day is a race until winter. I'm currently trying to catch up on firewood...
Very cool set up. Nice work! Why not collect rain water on site and store inside? The water barrels also act as heat collectors. *salute* My next property will have a walipini. I plan on doing the geothermal, with solar, and a pellet stove plus water collection. Also, strawberries. Do you intend for them to take over the whole bucket? I have my strawberries in front and chives in the back. Fills the container and gives me a lot of both. I plant radish between my lettuce. I have onions and basil with my peppers. I try to use all my space because for me it's limited.
It’s set up for rainwater collection, I haven’t finished partly because the roof area is so small…but it’s on the list. Keep us posted on your project!
@@WineberryHill It's going to be a few years off but I am already looking into drafts and such. Taking notes on technology. Doing the homework. I'm in New Jersey and there are too many rules for how I use my own property so I gotta find a place to build and still have a job. Water collection is big for me, I don't want to rely on municipal sources.
Where does one even begin??? Love your greenhouse! I'm in Massachusetts too and would love to be able to harvest fresh produce in the winter! Thank you for sharing your experiences!
Awesome. Working on our greenhouse down here in Md.. Shed design lots of stone geo thermal. Trying to figure out glazing for roof prefer glass over plastic. Have accumulation of new sheet glass from auctions and a bunch of Marvin Dh sashes . Even paid an architect to assemble the various sash sizes into a look that does not look too wonky Trying to match the lines of the roof to the wall may just order safety glass in the correct dimension of the roof joists and infill the walls as close and aligned as possible. I’ve spent a lot on the foundation and figure the glass maybe a cost I may have to realize. I agree with you a lot of work. And I’m only a third way there. It will be worth it. You inspired me!
I really love the green house! The thought about creating a geo thermal space is amazing for most of us living in the Northern states... I am at the opposite end in the Pacific NW area... it rains a lot here in Winter so not a whole lot of light... but I do have mostly deciduous trees around the house, unfortunately we also have lots of Fir trees which NEVER drop their shade cover. I am wondering how deep you had to go and did you create some sort of "room" below the ground for the air exchange? I guess I don't totally understand that part?
Yeah, it sounds like you have the general idea. I buried the perforated pipe beneath the greenhouse before building it. Its between 4' and 6' under the surface of the raised bed.
16'X20", the bed is 12"X12" (the climate battery sits under the bed). You essentially want to mirror the air volume INSIDE the structure with the amount of air volume INSIDE the buried pipe
I'm trying to build a wallapini/geothermal gh. AS we build onto our little cabin. Made both task even more challenging. I'm about a year in and still digging. Lol
Anything above 35 degrees in most cases... I have citrus that I keep in a greenhouse during winter... only occasionally do I provide a little frost protection.. I have seen where people grow Citrus at 7j,000 ft by digging down and creating South facing glass above... but partially underground. Justin Rhodes did a video on a guy that grows nearly everything in the Colorado mountains.
Hey, wonderful work ! I discover your channel with this one video, apologies ! Tell me about the energy ? Is it solar ? Is it working all year's long ? What about the cost of it and where did you find your electronic products ? What were the inexpexted things that put you in troubles ? I like the choice of orientation of the building, really smart ! Congrat's for this work and really curious to hear your 1 year after debrief !
Welcome! It’s an all year round geothermal and solar(heat, not electric) system. Links to the fans and control systems in the description. I had to jack hammer for a month solid to make room for the structure and geothermal system. I’m working on a more detailed video. Here is a video about the cost: ua-cam.com/video/0vA8Hx8F7Sk/v-deo.html
It ranges between 4' to 6' beneath surface of bed. The sides of the GAHT are insulated...not the bottom, because you want the heat from the ground transferred into the GAHT.
Nice greenhouse! Do you have temperature logging systems in it? I'd be curious to see some temperature data from it, like temperature difference inside vs out across the year.
I do, I’m using the AC Infinity pro controller 69, with two of their circulation fans, and they’re 10 inch exhaust fan and one in-line fan that’s actually doing the circulation through the geothermal system. As for numbers off the top of my head at peak hottest summer temperatures, I run a maximum of 3 to 5° over ambient, in the winter if it’s a sunny day, I can get 30 to 35° over ambient. @acinfinity
@@WineberryHilldoes it graph temperature data or allow you to export it? I've been searching for years for a device that will act as controller AND data logger. I'm looking into that one right now.
Amazing work. Do you have any rough temperture numbers between inside and outside temps that you can share. For example what is the temp inside when its 15 fahrenheit outside? Thank you
Thanks! Yes, in the winter depending on whether it’s sunny or not it has been 50+ degrees warmer than outside in the greenhouse (cloudy days are closer to 40+). In the summer on the hottest days during the hottest part of the day it’s never more than a few degrees warmer inside than outside.
That's incredible. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Here in northern Canada it can get down to -22 fahrenheit in the dead of winter. But even a three season greenhouse would be amazing.
Yes, there is. I have a Radon detector in the GH, and to my surprise levels are very low. That said there is a lot of air movement designed into the greenhouse (6 different fans) to keep the plants healthy and happy, so this mitigates much of the risk.
That looks fantastic. Sure seemed to be some thinking that went into it. How's the maintenance on the wood shingles, you spraying it with anything sort of like what they do with cedar sided homes?
Beautiful work! Have you a water catch system at the house down from your greenhouse and would you say the draw from the heated hose could be offset with x solar panels...? Only asking because your designs are dope
Why not put a water reservoir tank in the green house? It'd be both thermal mass, and bring the water to a good temperature for watering. It's a lovely building, and it looks like you've a beautiful property - I'm jealous! 🙂
I have said little bits about it in videos, maybe I should make a more detailed video. The basic idea was I dug out a rectangle about 4' deep, beneath where the raised bed would sit. I insulated the four sides with 2" foil backed foam sheets. Then I layed it down, starting with the side the pipe would be going into the ground, and ran it the width of the bed, coiling it back and forth until I reached the point where the pipe came out of the ground...about 300 feet in total length is what I could fit in the hole.
wish you would have said something about how it performed on the really hot days and the cold days. Like what the outside temp was on the coldest morning and the greenhouse temp.
This is an update about the greenhouse. I have talked about the greenhouse’s ability to manage heat in other videos. The short answer is that during hot weather it is able to maintain temperature within a few degrees of ambient.
Hey thanks! I turned my angle Southeast by about 15˚. I did this so as to reject afternoon heat in the summer, and for my location it slightly improved my winter morning temperature gain. Keep me posted on your project.
Amazing greenhouse! If you were doing it again, would you consider including large water tanks inside helping with the water storage (possibly not needing a heated piping) as well as heat retention or do you see it as a waste of space?
Great video. 😊 question. Your sun facing poly windows. What degree are they set at? Does the snow slide off? Did you daybin akother video, did you buy them? Are they solid or two ply greeb jousejpoky panels? Thanks. Ps.bi am still figuring out if i will be building our geothermal at grade or slightlg below grade..... also trying to figurebout the permits needed for a green jouse here in Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Awesome...I definitely want to build an actual house like this...geothermal is something we should've been taking advantage of decades ago...cpuld you imagine the reduction in electricity costs if all Americans supplemented their heating/cooling with geothermal?
The perforated pipe is between 4 and 6 feet beneath the surface of the raised bed. Yes, there is a "box" around the pipe of 2" styrofoam. The floor of the greenhouse is also insulated with heavy styrofoam.
Very cool! Do you collect rainwater (or snow melt) from the roof of the greenhouse? And did you use insulation on your solid walls? Or were the shingles insulative enough that you didn’t need any?
I want to have Aquaponics, but I want too geothermal the green house, so it stay warm in winter & cool during summer. I live in Ft Worth Tx. We got up to 110 degree’s during the summer. I wonder if it will work????
Do you have concerns or data about the growth of mold and bacteria in your underground pipes? This was a big criticism of GAHT systems for living spaces but I'm not sure if it's a factor for greenhouses.
It was something that was on my radar as I was building it. It hasn't been an issue...not even a faint odor..etc. The 4" flexible GAHT pipe is perforated, and in a sleeve. For my set up, it seems this allows any condensed moisture to drain out.
That’s an amazing greenhouse! Great job!! Here in NW Georgia where we are expecting temps in excess of 100º this coming week, it just gets too hot in my small greenhouse to sustain much of anything, including me! Time to start fall seeds and I know nothing will survive in there until it’s cooler outside. I’m curious about the dimensions of your greenhouse. It’s hard to get a sense of the size of it from the video.
Yep totally true and I have over 100 gallons of water stored in the greenhouse to take advantage of that fact but it’s very hard to make a raised bed out of water….
Awesome greenhouse build and management systems. Liked & subscribed! QUESTION: do you have a video that shows temperature logs for the different seasons? (Indoor & Outdoor temperatures, especially high/low extremes for each season). Too many geothermal greenhouse presentations are strictly anecdotal. No hard data from accurate temperature logging sensors. Given the time and expense of building these things, people need proven designs backed by hard data before they start a build project.
Nice of you to say...and thanks! So I know what you mean, a ran into that when I was researching. But my answer might not help you. Yes, I have data, BUT this data is really only useful for my EXACT build and location. Everything about my system from the ground (GAHT specs...including insulation) up to the structure (including how it's insulated and ventilated), AND then to the geo-location (long and lat) AND the topographical location, AND the geology of my nearly solid rock location, PLUS the orientation (15˚ SE) AND the nearby deciduous trees that I factored into shielding the greenhouse in the summer, but not in the winter. On top of that, the actual data can be confusing, without the benefit of knowing the weather conditions for every single data point. On sunny days it can be 40˚+ hotter inside...in the dead of WINTER. On 95˚ SUMMER days it can be 95˚ inside the greenhouse because of the aforementioned trees providing shade in the late afternoon....sheesh...right! An added kink to my specific design, is that I personally, milled the structural timber to my own spec...which means my "blueprints" would only help if someone wanted to mill the timber as well, otherwise the measurements, would get messy fast. So thats the LONG answer about GAHT system specs. The short answer is...they certainly do work, but require being made to suit each location. Make sense?
@@WineberryHill Somewhat. But it sounds like you're not monitoring outside weather conditions and therefore don't have the data necessary to model the performance of your system. While a performance model of your system would only apply to your specific system, if others modeled their designs then there might be a large enough number of samples to model general behavior within theoretical limits dictated by the physics.
I saw Bulgarian carrot hot peppers, do you like them and why do you grow them? We recently have a new variety, it's called Bulgarian Spirit 200,000 shu
@@WineberryHill Our peppers are not very hot, compared to the most famous ones at the moment, but everything that grows on our land has a nice taste, especially tomatoes.
No. Inside your Greenhouse. In your video building it you had two white drums in the center of your raised bed. In later videos they are gone. I just wander what their purpose was.
Ah , yeah THOSE!. So I was originally going to set up a heater system using the thermal mass of water (with help from a little bucket heater) it's something I used to do in an old non-geothermal greenhouse I had. It ended up not being needed, because of how well the new greenhouse did holding heat in the winter. Here is a video about that system: ua-cam.com/video/VlUw484ufP0/v-deo.html
Thank you. I thought it might have that or something connected to watering. Beautiful Greenhouse. I'm considering building one myself. I love the thought behind your concepts. Ingenious.
Do you mean the cost of digging the actual hole? Free…I did it with a pick and shovel. The whole project? Here’s a video I made about that: ua-cam.com/video/0vA8Hx8F7Sk/v-deo.html
I still haven't figured out how a stone can store heat in winter when it's OUTSIDE. Outside in winter, the stone stores only cold and because of it, the earth around cools down much faster. In order for the stone to store heat, it must be placed inside the greenhouse.
@@WineberryHill I place such stones in my greenhouse INSIDE and it is effective. And according to the thermal imager, the stones outside are cold like the whole earth around.
The cost to maintain is minimal, mainly electricity to run the controls and fans. Here is the video I made about the cost: ua-cam.com/video/0vA8Hx8F7Sk/v-deo.html
your green house is a one fab piece of architecture
Hey thanks! I'm really happy with it.
at 70's hungary it was pretty common to use ground water to heat greenhouses. made with dual layer plastic foil and there was a sprayers between two layer. the ground water here always around 8-10C and that kept 8-10C inside the greenhouse even at -27C. this was enough for lettuce, radishes, onions, root vegetables.
This is the coolest greenhouse I have ever seen, how inspiring!
You made my day!
This is absolutely STUNNING!!
Awesome! 🦋 I love the rock walls to temper the temperatures, holding the heat for winter nights and sucking up the heat for hot summer days!
Someone said to hang cut out life size photos or drawings of cabbage butterflies around your brassica plants. Apparently they are territorial and don’t go to a brassica plant when there is another of their species already there.
Interesting!
Great green house and brilliant approach. Your use of the treeline as protection from the hot sun in the summer while being beneficial in the cold months reflects someone who is aware of their environment. Well done sir.
Вау! Супер проект!👍
Прекрасная идея!
Замечательная работа!
Thought - I need more land now. This is such an underrated video. Thanks for sharing this. Amazing job!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Some would call it a greenhouse and some a fort!😊 amazing job , super well thought out and it will probably get little adjustments forever. 👍
Yeah I will tinker on it forever
@@WineberryHill 😎
reminds me a bit of the chineese greenhouses; esp in northern China. They look similar and have even a night blanket.
Everything is so happy!
I appreciate the humor on what could sometimes be a boring subject. You make it fun to learn about all of the topics you cover. You look like you're having fun teaching. Love your energy. Keep up the good work.!😊
Glad you enjoy it!
Thank you for sharing your good knowledge, I greet you from the Dominican Republic
Nice greenhouse, I'll be watching more of your videos.
Great information - inspiring.
Glad you enjoyed it!
your curtain instead of the screen door is a brilliant idea.
Yeah, much easier to use.
Awesome greenhouse. My wife and I built our 10ft by 16ft greenhouse a couple of years ago, and I put six 65-gallon food safe plastic olive barrels underneath our greenhouse. They are filled with rain water, which I collect from the roof. We took advantage of the trees to block the sun in the summer, and it works very well. Plus, the northwestern side is sheilded by a hill, that blocks the winds here in PA. Craigslist and marketplace kept our total costs to about $2500. Thank you for your videos that we help us improve our greenhouse. Happy holidays!
Great to hear!
I live in Massachusetts, and have seen a few of these bioshelter greenhouses in action, including the huge one at the Sirius community, which was so warm , that i needed to be shirtless on a February afternoon, in the teens outside, without any extra heat being added, or the much smaller one at Paradise Lot in Holyoke. This technology is super effective, not terribly expensive, considering , and greatly improves the quality of life for local sustainable eating for anyone in a temperate 4 season climate
Nice! Love to see the incorporation of geothermal despite being fully above ground. Would love to see you engineer some way of using snow melt for winter watering.
Great video, we have been looking for a good solution to the cold weather with relation to growing
Looking forward to putting some of these ideas to work when I build my 4 season greenhouse. Liked and subbed
Great little mix of goodies
Hello, I like this awesome build, you really did think this thru... except in both the videos I never heard you talk about the soil quality, and how you manage that. Soil needs to be in balance with minerals and soillive to grow vegs and so on.. greetings
I need to do a video on that!
Might i ask the dimensions of your raised bed to get a proper idea?
I've got half a hole for my GAHT waiting since spring of this year. Time's running...
Your videos are always a great joy with a high educational value. The cut-scenes of later videos also provide a small idea about how much work stands behind all those videos. Chapeau!
Howdy! 10'x12' I hear ya on the time slipping away aspect...I feel like every day is a race until winter. I'm currently trying to catch up on firewood...
I am SOOOOO jealous! 😉
Love your videos. Love your greenhouse. I’m over 1/2 way done with mine. Can’t wait to use it. Keep up the great work.
Thanks, will you be able to get it closed in before winter?
people need more inspiration like this because this is the way to sustainably build and farm.
Very cool build...thx for sharing!
Greetings from Bulgaria. The peppers are awesome ;)
So much AWESOME in one video...
Hey thanks! Nice of you to say that!
Very cool set up. Nice work!
Why not collect rain water on site and store inside? The water barrels also act as heat collectors. *salute*
My next property will have a walipini. I plan on doing the geothermal, with solar, and a pellet stove plus water collection.
Also, strawberries. Do you intend for them to take over the whole bucket? I have my strawberries in front and chives in the back. Fills the container and gives me a lot of both.
I plant radish between my lettuce. I have onions and basil with my peppers. I try to use all my space because for me it's limited.
It’s set up for rainwater collection, I haven’t finished partly because the roof area is so small…but it’s on the list. Keep us posted on your project!
@@WineberryHill It's going to be a few years off but I am already looking into drafts and such. Taking notes on technology. Doing the homework. I'm in New Jersey and there are too many rules for how I use my own property so I gotta find a place to build and still have a job. Water collection is big for me, I don't want to rely on municipal sources.
Where does one even begin??? Love your greenhouse! I'm in Massachusetts too and would love to be able to harvest fresh produce in the winter! Thank you for sharing your experiences!
superb eco_system well done dude 🌟🤩🌟
Thanks, really nice of you to say that!
What an amazing place to be in.
Gongrats for the awesome job 😊
Thanks so much! 😊
I want to build a nice green house too.
Fantastic information!
Glad you think so!
Hi, would you be able to explain or show drawings of the pipe work and fan setup please?
Cheers
…yes, more on that soon.
Brilliant!
Sir, you are living my dream. I also live in New England do you ever give tours? I've always wanted a greenhouse like this.
Awesome. Working on our greenhouse down here in Md.. Shed design lots of stone geo thermal. Trying to figure out glazing for roof prefer glass over plastic. Have accumulation of new sheet glass from auctions and a bunch of Marvin Dh sashes . Even paid an architect to assemble the various sash sizes into a look that does not look too wonky Trying to match the lines of the roof to the wall may just order safety glass in the correct dimension of the roof joists and infill the walls as close and aligned as possible. I’ve spent a lot on the foundation and figure the glass maybe a cost I may have to realize. I agree with you a lot of work. And I’m only a third way there. It will be worth it. You inspired me!
...that's awesome! It's worth the work...keep me posted.
I really love the green house! The thought about creating a geo thermal space is amazing for most of us living in the Northern states... I am at the opposite end in the Pacific NW area... it rains a lot here in Winter so not a whole lot of light... but I do have mostly deciduous trees around the house, unfortunately we also have lots of Fir trees which NEVER drop their shade cover. I am wondering how deep you had to go and did you create some sort of "room" below the ground for the air exchange? I guess I don't totally understand that part?
Yeah, it sounds like you have the general idea. I buried the perforated pipe beneath the greenhouse before building it. Its between 4' and 6' under the surface of the raised bed.
Can you provide more specifics about the dimensions ( of the greenhouse, raised bed & geothermal bed & amount of pipe used, etc....)?
16'X20", the bed is 12"X12" (the climate battery sits under the bed). You essentially want to mirror the air volume INSIDE the structure with the amount of air volume INSIDE the buried pipe
that's amazing. You're an inspiration; I will try and build one like that as well, maybe a bit smaller for starters
Super kind of you to say that! Keep us posted!
Awesome content!
Nice!
I'm trying to build a wallapini/geothermal gh. AS we build onto our little cabin. Made both task even more challenging. I'm about a year in and still digging. Lol
Stay the course! 😉
This is AMAZING!
This is beautiful!
I love the look and design!!!
Thanks!
I am also zone 6 and was curious if it was warm enough in there during the winter to keep citrus trees alive?
Anything above 35 degrees in most cases... I have citrus that I keep in a greenhouse during winter... only occasionally do I provide a little frost protection.. I have seen where people grow Citrus at 7j,000 ft by digging down and creating South facing glass above... but partially underground. Justin Rhodes did a video on a guy that grows nearly everything in the Colorado mountains.
Also check out “citrus in the snow Nebraska greenhouse.” This is a great strategy.
Hey, wonderful work ! I discover your channel with this one video, apologies ! Tell me about the energy ?
Is it solar ? Is it working all year's long ? What about the cost of it and where did you find your electronic products ? What were the inexpexted things that put you in troubles ?
I like the choice of orientation of the building, really smart !
Congrat's for this work and really curious to hear your 1 year after debrief !
Welcome! It’s an all year round geothermal and solar(heat, not electric) system. Links to the fans and control systems in the description. I had to jack hammer for a month solid to make room for the structure and geothermal system. I’m working on a more detailed video. Here is a video about the cost: ua-cam.com/video/0vA8Hx8F7Sk/v-deo.html
Nice greenhouse!
Thank you, I'm very happy with it!
Nice build! Well done
I'm glad you like it
Nicer than some people's house
golden
I wish! Zone 3b here and I’m unsure this would work
It’s ideal for cold climates.
You explain things so well. New subscriber.
Thanks and welcome
Awesome job and great videos! How deep under the ground do the tubes run? Is the underside insulated? Thank you!
It ranges between 4' to 6' beneath surface of bed. The sides of the GAHT are insulated...not the bottom, because you want the heat from the ground transferred into the GAHT.
Nice greenhouse! Do you have temperature logging systems in it? I'd be curious to see some temperature data from it, like temperature difference inside vs out across the year.
I do, I’m using the AC Infinity pro controller 69, with two of their circulation fans, and they’re 10 inch exhaust fan and one in-line fan that’s actually doing the circulation through the geothermal system. As for numbers off the top of my head at peak hottest summer temperatures, I run a maximum of 3 to 5° over ambient, in the winter if it’s a sunny day, I can get 30 to 35° over ambient. @acinfinity
@@WineberryHilldoes it graph temperature data or allow you to export it? I've been searching for years for a device that will act as controller AND data logger. I'm looking into that one right now.
I've never done it but it says you can...acinfinity.com/pages/app-programming/data-graphs-and-charts.html
Amazing work. Do you have any rough temperture numbers between inside and outside temps that you can share. For example what is the temp inside when its 15 fahrenheit outside? Thank you
Thanks! Yes, in the winter depending on whether it’s sunny or not it has been 50+ degrees warmer than outside in the greenhouse (cloudy days are closer to 40+). In the summer on the hottest days during the hottest part of the day it’s never more than a few degrees warmer inside than outside.
That's incredible. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Here in northern Canada it can get down to -22 fahrenheit in the dead of winter. But even a three season greenhouse would be amazing.
Very interesting greenhouse. One question- are you in a radon area? Would you recommend this approach in an area with radon issues?
Yes, there is. I have a Radon detector in the GH, and to my surprise levels are very low. That said there is a lot of air movement designed into the greenhouse (6 different fans) to keep the plants healthy and happy, so this mitigates much of the risk.
That looks fantastic. Sure seemed to be some thinking that went into it. How's the maintenance on the wood shingles, you spraying it with anything sort of like what they do with cedar sided homes?
I haven't yet, but if I do it will likely be boiled linseed oil.
Great space! How deep , under your raised gardens, is the geo tubing buried? Thank you!
The hole was 4' deep the raised bed is about 2' tall, the deepest portion of pipe is close to 6' under the surface of the bed.
Beautiful work! Have you a water catch system at the house down from your greenhouse and would you say the draw from the heated hose could be offset with x solar panels...?
Only asking because your designs are dope
Hey thanks! I have a water catch on my house. I have the hardware/intentions for it on the greenhouse also. Just haven't done it yet.
Do you have a diagram or pics of how you did the tubes underground?
Thanks
I'll post a video with more about that in the future.
Why not put a water reservoir tank in the green house? It'd be both thermal mass, and bring the water to a good temperature for watering.
It's a lovely building, and it looks like you've a beautiful property - I'm jealous! 🙂
I do have 100+ga of water stored in the greenhouse. I might be bale to squeeze a little more in.
How did you install the deep pipe? Is it straight down or does it have an elbow jount?
I dug out an area where the greenhouse was going to be, and coiled up hundreds of feet of 4 inch perforated pipe.
Where did you get your gabion baskets from? Been looking at places for them and haven't had too much luck.
I cant remember if it was ebay or Amazon. here is a link to some: amzn.to/44klps9
Excellent! I’d love to know your air tube design.
I have said little bits about it in videos, maybe I should make a more detailed video. The basic idea was I dug out a rectangle about 4' deep, beneath where the raised bed would sit. I insulated the four sides with 2" foil backed foam sheets. Then I layed it down, starting with the side the pipe would be going into the ground, and ran it the width of the bed, coiling it back and forth until I reached the point where the pipe came out of the ground...about 300 feet in total length is what I could fit in the hole.
@@WineberryHill Thanks for the reply. I'd love to see a dedicated video!
Sir, how many feet of pipe underground did you use, which type of system, thanks again
The basic idea is you want to mirror the air volume inside a greenhouse in the air volume of the pipes in the soil
wish you would have said something about how it performed on the really hot days and the cold days. Like what the outside temp was on the coldest morning and the greenhouse temp.
This is an update about the greenhouse. I have talked about the greenhouse’s ability to manage heat in other videos. The short answer is that during hot weather it is able to maintain temperature within a few degrees of ambient.
amazing greenhouse, just talked to my wife about building a geothermal greenhouse! did you orientate it full south like a walapini?
Hey thanks! I turned my angle Southeast by about 15˚. I did this so as to reject afternoon heat in the summer, and for my location it slightly improved my winter morning temperature gain. Keep me posted on your project.
Amazing greenhouse! If you were doing it again, would you consider including large water tanks inside helping with the water storage (possibly not needing a heated piping) as well as heat retention or do you see it as a waste of space?
I’m pretty happy with the 100 ga of storage. yeah beyond that and I think it would take up to much space.
Great video.
😊 question.
Your sun facing poly windows. What degree are they set at? Does the snow slide off? Did you daybin akother video, did you buy them? Are they solid or two ply greeb jousejpoky panels? Thanks. Ps.bi am still figuring out if i will be building our geothermal at grade or slightlg below grade..... also trying to figurebout the permits needed for a green jouse here in Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
About 30˚, yep the snow slides off. Double wall 8mm poly panels.
Is there a formula for figuring out the air volume so you know how much piping you need?
You basically want the same air volume of the inside dimensions of your greenhouse in the air volume inside the GAHT.
Awesome...I definitely want to build an actual house like this...geothermal is something we should've been taking advantage of decades ago...cpuld you imagine the reduction in electricity costs if all Americans supplemented their heating/cooling with geothermal?
How deep does the geothermal pipe go ? Do you have insulated walls underground?
The perforated pipe is between 4 and 6 feet beneath the surface of the raised bed. Yes, there is a "box" around the pipe of 2" styrofoam. The floor of the greenhouse is also insulated with heavy styrofoam.
U can grow more. With pvc towers hydro ponics
Great job. You have put in a lot of thought and effort in bulding the green house.
Can aqua or hydro phonics work in it?
Yeah I have room.
Very cool!
Do you collect rainwater (or snow melt) from the roof of the greenhouse?
And did you use insulation on your solid walls? Or were the shingles insulative enough that you didn’t need any?
I have plans for it, but have installed it yet.
I want to have Aquaponics, but I want too geothermal the green house, so it stay warm in winter & cool during summer. I live in Ft Worth Tx. We got up to 110 degree’s during the summer. I wonder if it will work????
I have seen some in the south...let me know what you learn!
hot air should not be pumped out into the street, but pumped into the earth and warm it
Have you checked radon gas levels inside the greenhouse ?
Yep, .10 or less.
Very cool design, I plan on going geothermal with my future farm. Did you use pool noodles to insulate the watering line (blue)?
So those are actually 6" perforated pipe air lines. The actual technical term for my system is a G.A.H.T - Ground Air Heat Transfer.
Do you have concerns or data about the growth of mold and bacteria in your underground pipes? This was a big criticism of GAHT systems for living spaces but I'm not sure if it's a factor for greenhouses.
It was something that was on my radar as I was building it. It hasn't been an issue...not even a faint odor..etc. The 4" flexible GAHT pipe is perforated, and in a sleeve. For my set up, it seems this allows any condensed moisture to drain out.
How do the strawberries get fertilized in cooler momths?
Fertilized with regular rounds of high quality compost (made on site). As for pollination, most strawberry types are self pollinating.
That’s an amazing greenhouse! Great job!! Here in NW Georgia where we are expecting temps in excess of 100º this coming week, it just gets too hot in my small greenhouse to sustain much of anything, including me! Time to start fall seeds and I know nothing will survive in there until it’s cooler outside. I’m curious about the dimensions of your greenhouse. It’s hard to get a sense of the size of it from the video.
The main footprint is 21'x16' (Not including the vestibule)
@@WineberryHill Thank you!
water is better heat storage than rocks
Yep totally true and I have over 100 gallons of water stored in the greenhouse to take advantage of that fact but it’s very hard to make a raised bed out of water….
Awesome greenhouse build and management systems. Liked & subscribed!
QUESTION: do you have a video that shows temperature logs for the different seasons? (Indoor & Outdoor temperatures, especially high/low extremes for each season).
Too many geothermal greenhouse presentations are strictly anecdotal. No hard data from accurate temperature logging sensors. Given the time and expense of building these things, people need proven designs backed by hard data before they start a build project.
Nice of you to say...and thanks! So I know what you mean, a ran into that when I was researching. But my answer might not help you. Yes, I have data, BUT this data is really only useful for my EXACT build and location. Everything about my system from the ground (GAHT specs...including insulation) up to the structure (including how it's insulated and ventilated), AND then to the geo-location (long and lat) AND the topographical location, AND the geology of my nearly solid rock location, PLUS the orientation (15˚ SE) AND the nearby deciduous trees that I factored into shielding the greenhouse in the summer, but not in the winter. On top of that, the actual data can be confusing, without the benefit of knowing the weather conditions for every single data point. On sunny days it can be 40˚+ hotter inside...in the dead of WINTER. On 95˚ SUMMER days it can be 95˚ inside the greenhouse because of the aforementioned trees providing shade in the late afternoon....sheesh...right! An added kink to my specific design, is that I personally, milled the structural timber to my own spec...which means my "blueprints" would only help if someone wanted to mill the timber as well, otherwise the measurements, would get messy fast. So thats the LONG answer about GAHT system specs. The short answer is...they certainly do work, but require being made to suit each location. Make sense?
@@WineberryHill Somewhat. But it sounds like you're not monitoring outside weather conditions and therefore don't have the data necessary to model the performance of your system.
While a performance model of your system would only apply to your specific system, if others modeled their designs then there might be a large enough number of samples to model general behavior within theoretical limits dictated by the physics.
have you watched the documentary on the GPH? Green power house?
I have seen the trailer of the "Need to Grow" documentary, it hat the one you are talking about...looks epic!
Beautiful design! How deep are your geothermal coils underground?
between 4' and 6' under the soil level.
I saw Bulgarian carrot hot peppers, do you like them and why do you grow them? We recently have a new variety, it's called Bulgarian Spirit 200,000 shu
A friend that lives in Bulgaria gave them to me, lots of baby peppers...we shall see.
@@WineberryHill Our peppers are not very hot, compared to the most famous ones at the moment, but everything that grows on our land has a nice taste, especially tomatoes.
No issues with mold or mildew coming from the underground pipes?
none
@@WineberryHillCool. Nice build
Possible dumb question. What is the purpose of the white 55 gallon drums in your raised bed?
Not a dumb question at all. Are referring to the wood raised beds (pallet wood actually) by my driveway?
No. Inside your Greenhouse. In your video building it you had two white drums in the center of your raised bed. In later videos they are gone. I just wander what their purpose was.
Ah , yeah THOSE!. So I was originally going to set up a heater system using the thermal mass of water (with help from a little bucket heater) it's something I used to do in an old non-geothermal greenhouse I had. It ended up not being needed, because of how well the new greenhouse did holding heat in the winter. Here is a video about that system: ua-cam.com/video/VlUw484ufP0/v-deo.html
Thank you. I thought it might have that or something connected to watering. Beautiful Greenhouse. I'm considering building one myself. I love the thought behind your concepts. Ingenious.
Try metal barrel suck up water and heat 🔥 inside green house
I made a video about that type of system here: ua-cam.com/video/MzoCsIgkVsM/v-deo.html
If I dress like a carrot, can I live in your greenhouse? Awesome job, wish I had the space to indulge in something like this.
Absolutely!
How much did it cost to dig/install the geothermal?
Do you mean the cost of digging the actual hole? Free…I did it with a pick and shovel. The whole project? Here’s a video I made about that: ua-cam.com/video/0vA8Hx8F7Sk/v-deo.html
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I still haven't figured out how a stone can store heat in winter when it's OUTSIDE. Outside in winter, the stone stores only cold and because of it, the earth around cools down much faster. In order for the stone to store heat, it must be placed inside the greenhouse.
Look at those same rocks through a thermal camera, you will see them glowing a few degrees warmer than the surroundings.
@@WineberryHill I place such stones in my greenhouse INSIDE and it is effective. And according to the thermal imager, the stones outside are cold like the whole earth around.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED SOAP STONE ? FOR IT’S ABILITY TO RETAIN AND SLOWLY RELEASE HEAT OR DO WE HAVE TO BE LOTTERY WINNERS TO DEREAM OF DOING THIS ? 😅
I hadn't, great tip!
How affordable is this geothermal greenhouse, to build and to maintain?
The cost to maintain is minimal, mainly electricity to run the controls and fans. Here is the video I made about the cost: ua-cam.com/video/0vA8Hx8F7Sk/v-deo.html
Gay-bians! I wish I had the time and money to build a proper greenouse in my garden.