As a fan, I want Thor there. As a human, I totally get it. They did him real dirty and he doesn’t need WSM, whereas they do stand to gain by having him
honeslty i hope thor sticks to his guns and refuses the invitation, WSm and eddie dragged his name through the dirt during the build up to the boxing match, regardless of whether it was deserved or not, he has no reason to go back, he has nothing to prove at WSM
@@carlh296Thor was not innocent and he displayed poor sportsmanship but he deleted his post about being cheated out of WSM 2017 shortly after posting and has clearly grown since then. That being said, Colin Bryce is an event organizer (and was head ref in 2017) and should be held to a much higher standard than athletes. Him giving Eddie the bts footage from WSM was unprofessional and shattered the little bit of trust people had in him. If anything it gave weight to Thors claims that Eddie and Colin are friends who colluded to “fix” WSM 2017
The sad thing about WSM is it’s still a TV show made for average viewers that see strongman as a freak show, SMOE & Arnold’s + rogue are doing it 10x better than WSM, even look at the cheap athlete announcement posters, they are a joke - as a designer they look so amateur compared to All the top comps, there’s 0 investment to improve the WSM comp for the strongman FAN. I no longer look forward to this comp, always watching it off someone’s IG story to find out what’s happening, all the real strongman fans see the whole comp anyways through online leaked videos so why not just livestream it on YT or a pay wall ( I understand the complications of WSM, but as a fan I’m sick of it tbh). I’m really glad we have the other big comps to look forward to which care about the sport and everyone who enjoys it.
I actually hope Thor sticks to his resolution not to support the organization that unfairly smeared his image. Even more impressive than super strength is the guts to stick up for yourself, even when you're offered fame and money to bend over and take it.
WSM and Giants Live need Thor more than he needs them. Back in the 10's was the other way around given there was only WSM and the Arnold's and giants live promoted more big events. But ever since Thor gave them the finger in 2020 more and more atlethes and promoters have come trying to overcome WSM. Now we have 4 big shows and the worse by is WSM. Atlethes rather be "the strongest man on earth", or even the "Rogue Invitational champ", and obviously win the Arnold's before even paying attention to WSM. Ever since Thor has been back he is very bad news for giants live, specially now that he is cooking an international deadlift competition wich will take place soon, arguably shattering the only decent hing giants live still has. I just don't see any ay Thor returns to WSM and he doesn't need to, he should stick to his guns and go after those titles like SMOE and Rogue's wich he hasn't won yet. Shatter as many records as he wants and just keep growing the sport. In the end WSM is runed by a corrupted organization, is out of touch with fans, atlethes and where the sport is currently.
If we don’t get Lucas Hatton invited this year due to “too many Americans” WSM loses all credibility, and confirms it’s ALL about TV/politics and not truly finding the strongest man.
WSM and its television rights is the single most reason why the strongman sport itself and the strongman community suffer and have suffered to expand to this day. It’s only been televised in North America and the UK (which equates to a coverage of less than 10% off the planet). It’s virtually impossible to get any footage in other countries. No wonder strongman is in the majority of countries unheard of and most athletes come from these places (UK and North America). I think other comps like the Arnold or Rogue (to some extend SMOE because it’s PPV) that are accessible should replace the WSM contest. Then invite the 30 strongest athletes; increase the comp to 10 events and draw randomly 1-2 grip, 4-5 moving and 4 static events; publish these events at least 4 months in advance and then you can find the actual strongest man on this planet….. no events get swapped at short notice or even on the day (rather drop it to 9 events if impossible to conduct 1 event)….. and no other favouritism as has been the case in the past.
It kind of looks like they're saying, "We've invited all the former winners who are still competing, and these next five guys who've been a part of it before." No confirmation from any of them, as far as I know, but obviously you can pencil in Mitch and Tom.
Thor is a business man and the mountain is its own brand. If guaranteed appearance money is offered for example, with whatever prize money he earns it would perhaps tease him back into the mix. Money can heal a lot of wounds.
I pretty sure if it wasn't for those nasty videos Eddie (and Colin) put out before the boxing-fight and them continuing to disrespect his deadlift Thor would be on board. Don't see it happening like this.
@@noahglenn8305 I couldn't watch it even if I wanted to. Maybe I will catch it on the random Wednesday at 2am when they decide to air it. If not, oh well......
Lets be real its a piss poor comp now anyway compared to the real strongman comps If fans have to get up early in the morning to do spreadsheet follow alongs for ANY sport there is something drastically disconnected between fans and organisers Its a TV show which only keeps any sort of credibility because of the title name it holds Could be a massive comp that grows the sport exponentially if they did it for the fans and scrapped their TV rights deals, and instead focussed on the streaming model and brand deals, but theyre too closed minded and short sighted to care about what the fans think and just care about lining their own pockets. Who even watches terrestrial TV anymore anyway?! Exactly, no real true fans of the sport that buy merch, support athletes, and not the ones who will help make strongman more mainstream I hope Thor doesnt go based on everything they did to him, and it also begins to discredit the real value of holding the title if the top strongmen arent in attendance
Not to mention I can't imagine WSM having a livestream and more live coverage would influence the 4 or 5 senile Brits that still watch it on TV a year later. I mean, come on ... The people that watch the polished/edited WSM on christmas and the (international) fans of the sport that follow it live are completely different audiences.
Wsm and giants live are pretty much begging Thor to come back at this point.😂 I hope he sticks to his word and never competes for them again. Why would he risk being screwed over again and have his name even further tarnished??🤔
@@Klepzeiker1984 yup screwed. In 2017 there was a drag event In the heats and was supposed to be in the finals, but after Colin saw how bad Eddie did in the heats, he removed that event from the final, because if Eddie did bad again he obviously wouldn't win. Then ya got the whole Viking press point deduction BS once they realized removing that event still wasn't enough to guarantee Eddie victory.😂 That's a screw job if I've ever seen one. 🤔
@@benji3008Yup that was the Tire flip into chain drag, and Eddie sucked at the chain. He got 4th with the tire but would end way back if the chain was there.
100% support Thor not going back to worlds after the 2017 footage was used to tarnish his rep. Would be great for the sport but organizers also need to know that kind of stuff is unacceptable Edit: I agree that Thor was a sore looser in 2017 but that does not excuse the organizers in allowing footage to be used to paint him in a dishonest way (especially not shaking Eddie’s hand on the podium). Organizers should be held to a higher standard than athletes
Disagree there. WSM will still continue forward being the biggest comp for the foreseeable future. So the only ones missing out is Thor and the rest of us who want to see him there
You must be having a laugh, WSM should of sued that big baby for tarnishing it's name by saying it was fixed and they were cheating and can't be trusted, I've never seen a bigger baby just because he didn't win. Thor is an amazing athlete, but the way he acted always leaves a bad taste in my mouth, there's a clip of him intimidating Colin to try and change the result from when he double dipped about 100 times, absolute juiced head bully!
I 100% understand Thor's position, and I don't blame him, but man it'dbe cool to see him back. As far as the poster goes, it's just saying invites are out, which as a former champ he gets an invite. Honestly it'd be a dick move NOT to include him.
Hope he doesnt. Wsm is so behind in streaming, events, and location. Fans would be better without it lol smoe, asc, and rogue are mucu better. Magnusson invitational was also awesome to watch with the natural elements
Couldn’t agree more. And yes, I truly love the MVM with not only its nature close events (when in real life do you find perfectly round atlas stones) and being actually outside. Full credit to Magnus for organising it as these elements must make it really difficult to plan.
It would be nice to see Thor compete in the WSM again. It would be even nicer to be able to watch it as a live stream and from somewhere more interesting than california or florida yet again. Cheers!
Giants Live recently made a "Thor post" on Facebook which did get me wondering... not for WSM, but i wondered if DL World Champs as an outside possibility
They did invited Thor to the deadlifts, he considered it and said he would of they, in sign of good faith, took down the "the truth" video in Eddie's and Giants Lives chanell. Eddie refused and here we are now, waiting for Thor to announce his own championship
As far as Evan not being in the post, I think it’s partially because he’s not an automatic invite just because he podiumed at worlds last year. He’s not a former champ and didn’t podium at giants this year
WSM should be called Worlds strongest Spreadsheet. 😂its all we get I know for athletes. They cant wait for WSM for the slonsors, money for heing WSM and title For fana. This is the worse competition to watch and care anymore now that we have plenty of shows to watch you know.....LIVE!!!!!
I would love to see Thor compete at WSM again… but unless Colin gives him a sincere apology face to face with a handshake…I don’t see it happening. That video was super disrespectful towards Thor and was blatantly dishonest to make him look like he refused to shake hands with Eddie for the win.
I just can't believe in 2025.... we still don't have WSM live! Every other competition..... but not the big one. They need to give themselves a shake! Looking forward to your coverage!
@@eladrio2311 Yeah, it is pretty poor. Maybe Brian will overtake it with SMOE! His shows are fantastic, and live coverage has been high standard every year I've watched it!
I think WSM has run its course out as a comp. Last few years have been boring honestly. WSM is over shadowed by The Arnolds, SMOE and Rogue lately. Only way Thor goes is if they offer the 505 lift with a shit ton of cash attached.
For strongman fans, yes. But for others, wsm is still the only comp. Wsm makes sure to never mention any other comps, if you only watch wsm you could easily be tricked into believing its the only comp there is.
Casual vs fans though. The revenue and history of world's will always be massive because it's got the TV side. I agree though from a strongman fan perspective.
WSM will loose it’s viewers, now with Brian entering Arm wrestling it’s a more exciting sport . I have been watching WSM for over 20 yrs I won’t been be supporting it anymore Arm wrestling with Brian has it made it more exciting for me .
As a fan, I want Thor there. As a human, I totally get it. They did him real dirty and he doesn’t need WSM, whereas they do stand to gain by having him
If Thor won’t compete neither will I, don’t even ask, I won’t go…. Unless you need help moving equipment then I’ll go
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Hope they send you an invite.
Ill help to
honeslty i hope thor sticks to his guns and refuses the invitation, WSm and eddie dragged his name through the dirt during the build up to the boxing match, regardless of whether it was deserved or not, he has no reason to go back, he has nothing to prove at WSM
What has Eddie won since 17 lost boxing lost to Brian should I go on
@@jameschristy9966Not really relevant though is it?
Thor was not innocent...
@@carlh296Thor was not innocent and he displayed poor sportsmanship but he deleted his post about being cheated out of WSM 2017 shortly after posting and has clearly grown since then. That being said, Colin Bryce is an event organizer (and was head ref in 2017) and should be held to a much higher standard than athletes. Him giving Eddie the bts footage from WSM was unprofessional and shattered the little bit of trust people had in him. If anything it gave weight to Thors claims that Eddie and Colin are friends who colluded to “fix” WSM 2017
The sad thing about WSM is it’s still a TV show made for average viewers that see strongman as a freak show, SMOE & Arnold’s + rogue are doing it 10x better than WSM, even look at the cheap athlete announcement posters, they are a joke - as a designer they look so amateur compared to All the top comps, there’s 0 investment to improve the WSM comp for the strongman FAN. I no longer look forward to this comp, always watching it off someone’s IG story to find out what’s happening, all the real strongman fans see the whole comp anyways through online leaked videos so why not just livestream it on YT or a pay wall ( I understand the complications of WSM, but as a fan I’m sick of it tbh). I’m really glad we have the other big comps to look forward to which care about the sport and everyone who enjoys it.
Martins always gives his best, great respect! I understand about hurting! I hope he has healed up!
I actually hope Thor sticks to his resolution not to support the organization that unfairly smeared his image. Even more impressive than super strength is the guts to stick up for yourself, even when you're offered fame and money to bend over and take it.
how did they smear his image?
@@spencerknight1730 there's a thing called google
@spencerknight1730 they created a multi part video full of lies and misrepresented information to make him look like both a cheat and a bad person.
To deflect from the fact that theres a high probability they changed most of the events in 2017's WSM to suit Eddies strengths.@alexanderpugmire6600
WSM and Giants Live need Thor more than he needs them. Back in the 10's was the other way around given there was only WSM and the Arnold's and giants live promoted more big events. But ever since Thor gave them the finger in 2020 more and more atlethes and promoters have come trying to overcome WSM. Now we have 4 big shows and the worse by is WSM. Atlethes rather be "the strongest man on earth", or even the "Rogue Invitational champ", and obviously win the Arnold's before even paying attention to WSM.
Ever since Thor has been back he is very bad news for giants live, specially now that he is cooking an international deadlift competition wich will take place soon, arguably shattering the only decent hing giants live still has.
I just don't see any ay Thor returns to WSM and he doesn't need to, he should stick to his guns and go after those titles like SMOE and Rogue's wich he hasn't won yet. Shatter as many records as he wants and just keep growing the sport. In the end WSM is runed by a corrupted organization, is out of touch with fans, atlethes and where the sport is currently.
Can't wait to see the results on youtube and then wait until Christmas next year to see some footage
And then all the Strongman youtubers hype it up endlessly.
If we don’t get Lucas Hatton invited this year due to “too many Americans” WSM loses all credibility, and confirms it’s ALL about TV/politics and not truly finding the strongest man.
Agree
Dropped the ball with the Cuban who didn’t do squat
I feel like they have already proven that many times at this point
@ fair point. This would really solidify it for me personally
you still need confirmation?
I doubt that Thor wants to deal with that Circus. The Arnold, Shaw, and Rogue are all better contests IMO.
I’ll take a live stream over Thor returning 😂
@@doughty616 I'll second this..
WSM and its television rights is the single most reason why the strongman sport itself and the strongman community suffer and have suffered to expand to this day. It’s only been televised in North America and the UK (which equates to a coverage of less than 10% off the planet). It’s virtually impossible to get any footage in other countries. No wonder strongman is in the majority of countries unheard of and most athletes come from these places (UK and North America). I think other comps like the Arnold or Rogue (to some extend SMOE because it’s PPV) that are accessible should replace the WSM contest. Then invite the 30 strongest athletes; increase the comp to 10 events and draw randomly 1-2 grip, 4-5 moving and 4 static events; publish these events at least 4 months in advance and then you can find the actual strongest man on this planet….. no events get swapped at short notice or even on the day (rather drop it to 9 events if impossible to conduct 1 event)….. and no other favouritism as has been the case in the past.
It kind of looks like they're saying, "We've invited all the former winners who are still competing, and these next five guys who've been a part of it before." No confirmation from any of them, as far as I know, but obviously you can pencil in Mitch and Tom.
Thor is a business man and the mountain is its own brand. If guaranteed appearance money is offered for example, with whatever prize money he earns it would perhaps tease him back into the mix. Money can heal a lot of wounds.
As a ukadian i dont even watch WSM any more
I hope he doesn't. WSM made their bed, let them sleep in it. Going back would be dismissing every complaint he's had with that shady lot.
Desperation from WSM.
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Thor back at WSM? What’s next, seccs tape with Eddie?
Bro 😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂
seccs?
@@thearm95 he can't write the correct spelling because UA-cam hide most comments that have certain words in them.
I pretty sure if it wasn't for those nasty videos Eddie (and Colin) put out before the boxing-fight and them continuing to disrespect his deadlift Thor would be on board. Don't see it happening like this.
WSM is just using his name shamefully. Pathetic if you ask me.
I doubt Hafthor will ever work with WSM…..Giants Live
WSM can go the way of the dinosaurs- I don’t watch it and never will- rogue and ASC and SMOE put full streams online for fans.
@@noahglenn8305 I couldn't watch it even if I wanted to. Maybe I will catch it on the random Wednesday at 2am when they decide to air it. If not, oh well......
Lets be real its a piss poor comp now anyway compared to the real strongman comps
If fans have to get up early in the morning to do spreadsheet follow alongs for ANY sport there is something drastically disconnected between fans and organisers
Its a TV show which only keeps any sort of credibility because of the title name it holds
Could be a massive comp that grows the sport exponentially if they did it for the fans and scrapped their TV rights deals, and instead focussed on the streaming model and brand deals, but theyre too closed minded and short sighted to care about what the fans think and just care about lining their own pockets.
Who even watches terrestrial TV anymore anyway?! Exactly, no real true fans of the sport that buy merch, support athletes, and not the ones who will help make strongman more mainstream
I hope Thor doesnt go based on everything they did to him, and it also begins to discredit the real value of holding the title if the top strongmen arent in attendance
100% and some of these past strongmen never call it out. At least Brian and Thor have called this out
Spot on
Not to mention I can't imagine WSM having a livestream and more live coverage would influence the 4 or 5 senile Brits that still watch it on TV a year later. I mean, come on ... The people that watch the polished/edited WSM on christmas and the (international) fans of the sport that follow it live are completely different audiences.
@Simon-rb6yy couldn't agree more mate. Only those still paying their TV licenses 😂
Wsm and giants live are pretty much begging Thor to come back at this point.😂
I hope he sticks to his word and never competes for them again.
Why would he risk being screwed over again and have his name even further tarnished??🤔
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Screwed???
@@Klepzeiker1984 yup screwed.
In 2017 there was a drag event In the heats and was supposed to be in the finals, but after Colin saw how bad Eddie did in the heats, he removed that event from the final, because if Eddie did bad again he obviously wouldn't win.
Then ya got the whole Viking press point deduction BS once they realized removing that event still wasn't enough to guarantee Eddie victory.😂
That's a screw job if I've ever seen one. 🤔
@@benji3008that was bullshit. Eddie would have finished in the exact same position.
@@benji3008Yup that was the Tire flip into chain drag, and Eddie sucked at the chain. He got 4th with the tire but would end way back if the chain was there.
As soon as I saw the WSM post I’m like, where is Loz & Liz’s reaction video! Crazy crazy!
100% support Thor not going back to worlds after the 2017 footage was used to tarnish his rep. Would be great for the sport but organizers also need to know that kind of stuff is unacceptable
Edit: I agree that Thor was a sore looser in 2017 but that does not excuse the organizers in allowing footage to be used to paint him in a dishonest way (especially not shaking Eddie’s hand on the podium). Organizers should be held to a higher standard than athletes
Agree
Eddie WAS the better athlete in 2017
Thor lost fair and square, he's just a baby and bad loser
Disagree there. WSM will still continue forward being the biggest comp for the foreseeable future. So the only ones missing out is Thor and the rest of us who want to see him there
You must be having a laugh, WSM should of sued that big baby for tarnishing it's name by saying it was fixed and they were cheating and can't be trusted, I've never seen a bigger baby just because he didn't win. Thor is an amazing athlete, but the way he acted always leaves a bad taste in my mouth, there's a clip of him intimidating Colin to try and change the result from when he double dipped about 100 times, absolute juiced head bully!
I 100% understand Thor's position, and I don't blame him, but man it'dbe cool to see him back. As far as the poster goes, it's just saying invites are out, which as a former champ he gets an invite. Honestly it'd be a dick move NOT to include him.
Hope he doesnt. Wsm is so behind in streaming, events, and location. Fans would be better without it lol smoe, asc, and rogue are mucu better.
Magnusson invitational was also awesome to watch with the natural elements
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Couldn’t agree more.
And yes, I truly love the MVM with not only its nature close events (when in real life do you find perfectly round atlas stones) and being actually outside. Full credit to Magnus for organising it as these elements must make it really difficult to plan.
Thor should agree to return on the condition the fans get a live stream 🤣
It would be nice to see Thor compete in the WSM again. It would be even nicer to be able to watch it as a live stream and from somewhere more interesting than california or florida yet again. Cheers!
I wish they would do a cold city again one day. Most of the athletes hail from European countries, anyway.
Pavlo and Oleksii are great athletes however they simply arent near the top level. They routinely dissapoint me.
Giants Live recently made a "Thor post" on Facebook which did get me wondering... not for WSM, but i wondered if DL World Champs as an outside possibility
Thors organizing his own event
They did invited Thor to the deadlifts, he considered it and said he would of they, in sign of good faith, took down the "the truth" video in Eddie's and Giants Lives chanell. Eddie refused and here we are now, waiting for Thor to announce his own championship
WSM needs Thor in my view.
I like the invited post. Hope they continue that for all the invites. It's interesting to see who accepts or declines.
I hope he doesn't, also, CLEVER marketing? if that's CLEVER I'm EINSTEIN
Would love to see Thor at WSM!! ❤❤❤
Definitely would love to see Thor compete at worlds strongest man and win it.
@5:20 damn I love Liz's commentary
Is there a deadline to accept? So we all know who's in it...?
If not...why not?
Deceptive marketing
I just want Mateusz to not be injured for one, and not running into a deadlift.
The other big shows have caught up and surpassed WSM. Who really cares about wsm anymore
Trying to buy wsm tix as an international person is very frustrating. Even with prev axs buying exp.
As far as Evan not being in the post, I think it’s partially because he’s not an automatic invite just because he podiumed at worlds last year. He’s not a former champ and didn’t podium at giants this year
Evan will get an invite just this is about athletes who earned their automatic invites
@@petershortland478right that’s what I said lol
WSM should be called Worlds strongest Spreadsheet. 😂its all we get
I know for athletes. They cant wait for WSM for the slonsors, money for heing WSM and title
For fana. This is the worse competition to watch and care anymore now that we have plenty of shows to watch you know.....LIVE!!!!!
I would love to see Thor compete at WSM again… but unless Colin gives him a sincere apology face to face with a handshake…I don’t see it happening. That video was super disrespectful towards Thor and was blatantly dishonest to make him look like he refused to shake hands with Eddie for the win.
I just can't believe in 2025.... we still don't have WSM live! Every other competition..... but not the big one. They need to give themselves a shake! Looking forward to your coverage!
it's not the big one for the strongman community anymore
@JBS7551 Aw right.... What is?
@@BobMc87 anything that doesn't cause the real fans to have to follow it on spreadsheets
@@eladrio2311 Yeah, it is pretty poor. Maybe Brian will overtake it with SMOE! His shows are fantastic, and live coverage has been high standard every year I've watched it!
😮 already watched at x5 speed wowza
We know we're gonna see Singleton and Luke Stoltman being invited, with the podiums and wins they got in 2024.
Genuine trauma for me when Mitch and Tom compete❤
But still love it???
I am excited for Martins, hope he would consider it :)
WSM is the only major show i dont watch. I dont care for it.
Same
Well, is not like we could watch it anyway. Lol
Thor needs to understand that forgiveness is for him and not the person he is forgiving.
Bring Thor back to WSM!
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I hoped to see VIP tickets this year but haven’t so far
It doesn’t matter who’s going or how many - Mitch is winning it again!
He's an amazing athlete but, active or not why even invite Martins'? It seems he doesn't have the passion anymore.
I hope we get everyone in the show
sadly thor is to old the compotation has grown so much he shouldn't risk it maybe arm-wrestling?
well the old man is regularly beating the 3x WSM and current WSM Tom Stoltman... and without pressing....
@@eladrio2311 No titles since WSM 2018 talk after he has something to talk about thank you
Thor is scared to lose to Mitch again....
I think WSM has run its course out as a comp. Last few years have been boring honestly. WSM is over shadowed by The Arnolds, SMOE and Rogue lately. Only way Thor goes is if they offer the 505 lift with a shit ton of cash attached.
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For strongman fans, yes. But for others, wsm is still the only comp. Wsm makes sure to never mention any other comps, if you only watch wsm you could easily be tricked into believing its the only comp there is.
Casual vs fans though. The revenue and history of world's will always be massive because it's got the TV side. I agree though from a strongman fan perspective.
Rogue surpass them in money but not there yet.
@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw SMOE too
Dana White or Brian Shaw should be running WSM🤨
This is Treys year to get that podium finish.
WSM will loose it’s viewers, now with Brian entering Arm wrestling it’s a more exciting sport . I have been watching WSM for over 20 yrs I won’t been be supporting it anymore Arm wrestling with Brian has it made it more exciting for me .