⭕ 30 % on My Infrared LUT : www.mathieustern.com/luts/infrared Please remember that this hack will only work on a full spectrum modified camera, check the first episode to know how to change your camera Episode I : ua-cam.com/video/apLBMlTQwJc/v-deo.html Thanks for watching!! Discover more experiments and weird lenses here : 📷 Instagram: instagram.com/mathieustern/ 🐦 Twitter: twitter.com/mathieustern 💡 Patreon: patreon.com/mathieustern 🧨 Tiktok: www.tiktok.com/@mathieustern2 🏛 Weird Lens Museum: tinyurl.com/ybwzlqz3 🇫🇷 Chaine en Français: www.youtube.com/@mathieustern-fr
Hey Mathieu, I'm a camera modification and optics technician. I absolutely love your content and how you portray infrared given how rarely it's shown online. I'm always excited to see you've posted a new video. Thank you for producing such niche, but widely appealing content.
This brings me back... I have accidentally discovered that floppy disk is a good IR pass filter some 20 years ago and used it to take my first IR photos with also amazing results. I am still using it in a modified webcam.
Hi Mathieu, I did this with an unexposed developed and thus black piece of slide film. Probably more easy to find than a floppy disk. Take at least one image with the lens cap on and shortest time and highest aperture value (or the camera body cap on) or develop a slide film without any picture taken. Use a medium format film or obove to have a larger sized piece.
Wow! This video title totally was a throwback for me. At one time I used a camera made my Sony called the Mavica. And, you actually did insert 3.5" floppies into the camera for image storage. Cool stuff!!
@@MathieuStern if you like the look of the pictures the mavica takes i recomend getting a flashpath adapter so it can use sony MS memory cards, the floppy drive mechanisms tend to wear out fast and are impossible to repair.
Salut Mathieu! I must admit the results achieved with the floppy disc "filter" are pretty stunning. I wouldn't say they are better than those obtained with a pro filter, or the other way round. IMO it's simply different kind of [lo-fi] aesthetics.
Man, I had stacks of them! Did my first projects in school with those. Soon after it was de 100mb zipdrive and on we went. And here I was thinking that taking photos through magnetic tapes of old cassettes was a crazy idea!
Thanks Mathieu, your content always keeps me inspired with photography as a medium. I appreciate your creativity when it comes to new ways of photographing
Awesome as usual! I love these experiments and ways to try expensive photography techniques in cheap, hacking ways. I suppose it still requires doing the IR hack on the camera itself though!
Considering the rarity of floppy disks (you can still technically buy them new, but they are expensive, since you can't just buy one) it might actually be cheaper to go with an actual infrared filter, lol.
To make things easier Haida filters has a rear camera lens adapter that you remove the three screws holding the back plastic of the lens and you put on a Haida filter holder and you can buy with it four graduated filters and also for night shots the Clear Night. There is also a template you can use to make your own filters out of materials like this floppy disk project. Also just for info if using a CPL on the front of a lens you have to use the 90 degree rule to prevent a center dark spot BUT if you use the Clear Night filter at the rear of a lens you get baby blue sky with no dark hump in the center, this is good for a pano making a bright sky darker all the way across every pano capture. I forgot to take the Clear Night filter out while doing a high noon scouting trip for a night milky way capture - accidents you learn from.
i should see if my FD mavica can see IR by default, it would be very funny to put a floppy disk filter onto a camera that writes to floppy disks (although it now has a flash adapter in it, and i imagine most other FD mavica owners also keep a flash adapter in it full time, since only six pictures fit on a disk.)
Just so you know, old floppy disks are still very much in demand for mostly old industrial equipment. Because companies today do not even attempt to update the OS or control hardware, the factories, universities and such are stuck with 30 year old computers running multi million $ machines, and that is the only viable method of extracting data or reprogramming. Even the US nuclear launch silos still rely on computers so old they still use 5,1/4 inch floppy disks.
Have you tried using the dark part of film that has been exposed the part with no photos onto the lens? A friend of mine also used it to covert there camera to IR
I bought a pre modified full spectrum Olympus EP2-L and a 750nm IR filter for the grand total of £120. Cheap price and the ability to use the ability to shoot without channel swapping.
Not sure of the point of investing a lot of money for an IR-Modified camera only to try to save on the IR filter. I feel like you would get the same effect as the floppy if you put a mist filter on the front of the lens, if that was so-desired. Otherwise, you don't have to drive the saturation so hard in light room for the pro filter.
Did you have chance to try with 5.25 disks? And I have to ask, for astrophotography people use it to filter the IR but for normal photography why do we need it? I am asking out of curiosity, not trying to be a smart a$$.
Don't all visible-light cameras have an infrared filter? It seems you really need a visible light filter. But if you can't remove the infrared filter, you'll just block all light.
⭕ 30 % on My Infrared LUT : www.mathieustern.com/luts/infrared Please remember that this hack will only work on a full spectrum modified camera, check the first episode to know how to change your camera Episode I : ua-cam.com/video/apLBMlTQwJc/v-deo.html
You can without a converted camera if you use a long exposure, which would require a tripod. This is because cameras that aren't converted still lets in a small amount of infrared light.
@@DynastyUK NP also remember that because of the long exposure, anything that moves will be blurry, especially things like foliage so if you're doing landscapes it's better to shoot on a bright sunny day that isn't windy.
and i thought you converted your Sony Alpha into a MAVICA by saving photos on a 2MB FLOPPY DISK (really, 1.44Mb formatted you schmucks.) (pis le temps d'exposition en plus...)
It's a bit painful to watch for me, because I like Floppy Disks, and collect them, and I don't think they are made anymore, but, at least I am happy that they are at least being put to a good use, albeit not what they were intended for, but at least they're not being wasted. 🙂
Should have used another, older lens, that didn't have new coatings. You have hotspot on the photos because of this. Old lenses are the best for IR photography.
Wait, what 2 MB... checking references .. .. .. .. .. OK advertised, usually 1,44 ! OK now I can go back to watching the video. Sad fact, I used several of these just a couple of months ago. Working as a technician, It's a real problem when machines in the manufacturing industry live long lives, and it´s more or less impossible to upgrade the CNC systems.
⭕ 30 % on My Infrared LUT : www.mathieustern.com/luts/infrared
Please remember that this hack will only work on a full spectrum modified camera, check the first episode to know how to change your camera
Episode I : ua-cam.com/video/apLBMlTQwJc/v-deo.html
Thanks for watching!! Discover more experiments and weird lenses here :
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Hey Mathieu, I'm a camera modification and optics technician. I absolutely love your content and how you portray infrared given how rarely it's shown online. I'm always excited to see you've posted a new video. Thank you for producing such niche, but widely appealing content.
thanks a lot Daniel !
This brings me back... I have accidentally discovered that floppy disk is a good IR pass filter some 20 years ago and used it to take my first IR photos with also amazing results. I am still using it in a modified webcam.
Hi Mathieu, I did this with an unexposed developed and thus black piece of slide film. Probably more easy to find than a floppy disk. Take at least one image with the lens cap on and shortest time and highest aperture value (or the camera body cap on) or develop a slide film without any picture taken. Use a medium format film or obove to have a larger sized piece.
Wow! This video title totally was a throwback for me. At one time I used a camera made my Sony called the Mavica. And, you actually did insert 3.5" floppies into the camera for image storage. Cool stuff!!
I will try to find a Mavica to use the other floppy disks i still have from Grandma
@@MathieuStern Yeah, now I also am going to see if we have any lying around at work. It might be even more difficult to find 3.5" floppies!! 🙂
@@MathieuStern put an anamorphic lens on a Mavica
@@MathieuStern or even better put an anamorphic with a floppy filter on the mavica that will be storaged on a floppy disc floppy^2
@@MathieuStern if you like the look of the pictures the mavica takes i recomend getting a flashpath adapter so it can use sony MS memory cards, the floppy drive mechanisms tend to wear out fast and are impossible to repair.
Salut Mathieu! I must admit the results achieved with the floppy disc "filter" are pretty stunning. I wouldn't say they are better than those obtained with a pro filter, or the other way round. IMO it's simply different kind of [lo-fi] aesthetics.
Man, I had stacks of them! Did my first projects in school with those. Soon after it was de 100mb zipdrive and on we went. And here I was thinking that taking photos through magnetic tapes of old cassettes was a crazy idea!
There definitely is a haze to the floppy look, but honestly still will give this a try! Awesome video! :D
Go for it!
1:55 - "Красота - это ты", "Beauty - is you"
Hahaha)
I personally only used floppy to shoot an eclipse. That was... floppy! But results were awesome)
Thanks Mathieu, your content always keeps me inspired with photography as a medium. I appreciate your creativity when it comes to new ways of photographing
I appreciate that!
95 year old grandmother keeping floppies for sentimental reasons is the best thing i've heard all day ^_^
Awesome as usual! I love these experiments and ways to try expensive photography techniques in cheap, hacking ways. I suppose it still requires doing the IR hack on the camera itself though!
Absolutely!
but this cheap filter will work on any full spectrum camera, even if you use a cheap one
@@MathieuStern Incredible, thanks!
Considering the rarity of floppy disks (you can still technically buy them new, but they are expensive, since you can't just buy one) it might actually be cheaper to go with an actual infrared filter, lol.
IKR
What a surprise!
Thanks for sharing!
Grandma provides. Thanks for the new technique.
You are so creative, great video!
Thank you so much!
Floppy disk value just increased
Interesting experience that I'll try for sure. It looks like a 590nm filter, but do you know the real value ?
Man you are the inspiration for me to do photography. Your voice and narration… oh! Keep on creating videos.
To make things easier Haida filters has a rear camera lens adapter that you remove the three screws holding the back plastic of the lens and you put on a Haida filter holder and you can buy with it four graduated filters and also for night shots the Clear Night. There is also a template you can use to make your own filters out of materials like this floppy disk project. Also just for info if using a CPL on the front of a lens you have to use the 90 degree rule to prevent a center dark spot BUT if you use the Clear Night filter at the rear of a lens you get baby blue sky with no dark hump in the center, this is good for a pano making a bright sky darker all the way across every pano capture. I forgot to take the Clear Night filter out while doing a high noon scouting trip for a night milky way capture - accidents you learn from.
Dang! That looks so cool!
i should see if my FD mavica can see IR by default, it would be very funny to put a floppy disk filter onto a camera that writes to floppy disks (although it now has a flash adapter in it, and i imagine most other FD mavica owners also keep a flash adapter in it full time, since only six pictures fit on a disk.)
This is tough . Great job
i liked the floppy disk better actually personally, it just had a softer, more relaxing vibe to it
It`s so cute 1:58 - "Красота - это ты" (Beauty is you).
That's still pretty cool!
Such a cool experiment !!
I knew you would like this one
That is very fascinating
Neat! I had no idea floppy storage medium could be used for that. Nice video as usual.
Glad I could help!
Just so you know, old floppy disks are still very much in demand for mostly old industrial equipment.
Because companies today do not even attempt to update the OS or control hardware, the factories, universities and such are stuck with 30 year old computers running multi million $ machines, and that is the only viable method of extracting data or reprogramming.
Even the US nuclear launch silos still rely on computers so old they still use 5,1/4 inch floppy disks.
thats depressing, and at the same time it means I found gold !! :))
@@MathieuStern On that note, maybe you should try VHS tape. It has the same properties but is much thinner. Maybe it will let in more light.
@@dgurevich1 Grandma !!!
stunning work
Thank you so much 😀
Those disks were 1.44MB (in theory, but in practice, less) on an IBM clone / Wintel box. But you could get 1.96MB from the on Amigas.
Trop bien ! Merci !
Haha love that we modified the same lens, and released a video about it on the same day, at the same time :)
I guess we must be secret twins !
luckily i have a whole box of floppy disk
1:57 кто-то обрадовался увидев кириллицу?) Мне просто интересно сколько фотографов из СНГ смотрят Метью:)
не знаю, сколько меня смотрят, но все они могут принять участие.
Таких много, это очень милый момент!
on the old woman's laptop it says красота это ты "beauty is you" in russian.
Maybe because it's not really my grandma :))
omg I think is the best way for a catadioptrique lens filter
Interesting.. But the Disc is kinda Small.. have you thought about trying it with a 5,25 Disc? Bigger in Size.. you could use it probably as a Filter.
Couldn't you get the same results on the floppy filter by bumping up the color saturation?
OMG! Thank Mathieu! I've got a question: At 3:22 what kind of glue you use to put the filter into the lens?
basic blu tack or equivalent
@@MathieuStern thanks! Good light!
dude all using an exacto knife for added style and drama, when I was pulling these things apart in highschool with my fingers haha.
I used to use the end, undeveloped part of a film roll, before I had any filters.
I didn't think that would work at all!
Have you tried using the dark part of film that has been exposed the part with no photos onto the lens? A friend of mine also used it to covert there camera to IR
I didn't try yet, but I heard about it
I bought a pre modified full spectrum Olympus EP2-L and a 750nm IR filter for the grand total of £120. Cheap price and the ability to use the ability to shoot without channel swapping.
watching you playing with the back of your lens is triggering severe OCD, but the results were rewarding
I heard you can also use an exposed film as an infrared filter.
I have loads at work. We used to use them for registers and stock lists in the school 🤣
Super vidéo Mathieu!! Petite question, pourrais tu s'il te plaît m'indiquer d'où provient la musique à 3:20 ? Merci beaucoup 😀
mamma mia .... the memories!
Not sure of the point of investing a lot of money for an IR-Modified camera only to try to save on the IR filter. I feel like you would get the same effect as the floppy if you put a mist filter on the front of the lens, if that was so-desired. Otherwise, you don't have to drive the saturation so hard in light room for the pro filter.
omg the minidisc at 1:38 😂😂
All nice and cool! But where is this beautiful botanical garden located? 😂
It's les Serres d' Auteuil in Paris, and it's free !
I've never seen someone using Dreaming Out Loud as a song for a UA-cam Video Intro!
I have floppy discs but they all have data on them. Can they still be used?
Oooohhhh....
Now I am thinking to use a swirly lens with IR filter.
"красота - это ты")))
If you wanted to store the uncompressed raw images from a Sony A7III, you would need over 20 floppydisks per photo.
imagine going on a trip for 2 weeks to shoot 500 photos.
Come on man, parents had radio tape cassettes and compact discs, we had floppy in our youth years. But nice video thanks for the tip !🍻
Nice video as always!
Glad you enjoyed!
Did you have chance to try with 5.25 disks?
And I have to ask, for astrophotography people use it to filter the IR but for normal photography why do we need it? I am asking out of curiosity, not trying to be a smart a$$.
Beauty is you. That's what is written on grand ma's laptop.
Hi mathieu do you think this would work with some black and whithe ir film ?
Oddly my dad being the tech hoarder that he was had kept some floppies around the house.
Mathieu, do you think this could be used for IR film like Rollei Infrared?
sure, but you will need a longer exposure
Excellent!
Glad you liked it!
🤣. Very funny. Pretty wild the filter is where,? The the red one. They sell that for different sensor size,,?
they sell it for many camera models
Ever try try using gels?
so was the camera actually modified?
Yes, modified to full spectrum
My dear friend! i just bought a floppy disk and trying to make something similar, but all my photos are all red only =/
did you watch the video ? you need to have a full spectrum modified camera for it to work.
i wonder if different brands/types have different effects?
Don't all visible-light cameras have an infrared filter? It seems you really need a visible light filter. But if you can't remove the infrared filter, you'll just block all light.
⭕ 30 % on My Infrared LUT : www.mathieustern.com/luts/infrared
Please remember that this hack will only work on a full spectrum modified camera, check the first episode to know how to change your camera
Episode I : ua-cam.com/video/apLBMlTQwJc/v-deo.html
The floppy isn't even a I/R pass filter, is an orange one that blocks I/R after 700nm...
A little confused, does the floppy disco only work if your camera is already converted?
You can without a converted camera if you use a long exposure, which would require a tripod. This is because cameras that aren't converted still lets in a small amount of infrared light.
@@ianadams5 Thanks Ian! Appreciate it!
@@DynastyUK NP also remember that because of the long exposure, anything that moves will be blurry, especially things like foliage so if you're doing landscapes it's better to shoot on a bright sunny day that isn't windy.
Floppy disc is not an IR bandpass filter. Its just project red color, thats all.
I breaks my heart seeing how this floppy is brutally murdered😢
amazing
I shot a solar eclipse through such a filter from a floppy disk.
Your wifes grandmother is awesome!
You swop channels in post?
Yes RGB channels in Photoshop, for this filter, but for IRchrome filter it's done directly IN camera
Surprised to see so little flare
Me: looking at my old floppies.
Floppy discs on Ebay are now $150 each! ;)
unexposed but developed celluloid film could always work.
isnt normal filmroll working too? Chinese glasfilters on ebay 12 euro. Kolari IR Chrome still expensive 😔
and i thought you converted your Sony Alpha into a MAVICA by saving photos on a 2MB FLOPPY DISK (really, 1.44Mb formatted you schmucks.)
(pis le temps d'exposition en plus...)
It's a bit painful to watch for me, because I like Floppy Disks, and collect them, and I don't think they are made anymore, but, at least I am happy that they are at least being put to a good use, albeit not what they were intended for, but at least they're not being wasted. 🙂
I will not destroy any other ones :) don't worry
Im a photographer but only have one camera.
I wouldnt dare fiddle with my camera unless I had a spare backup.
Oh, 2 Megabytes! 😉
Should have used another, older lens, that didn't have new coatings. You have hotspot on the photos because of this. Old lenses are the best for IR photography.
I didnt see any hotspots, but yes, older lenses are best
Why not a 5.25?
Wait, what 2 MB... checking references .. .. .. .. .. OK advertised, usually 1,44 !
OK now I can go back to watching the video.
Sad fact, I used several of these just a couple of months ago.
Working as a technician, It's a real problem when machines in the manufacturing industry live long lives, and it´s more or less impossible to upgrade the CNC systems.
Pity! I can send you millions of them! 😄
You technically put is in front of your camera
Cool! :)
Thanks! 😄
tes vraiment un mac ❤
Un PC ou un Mac ?
Really nice results, but as a retro tech lover, it breaks my heart to see working floppies destroyed for this. Please use broken disks for this.
Great point!
about to cut up an old floppy disk to put in my sd quattro