I responded to a Reddit thread years ago of someone asking if an SSD would speed up their PS3. I was down voted because I said it would, but brainlets on reddit said the SATA speeds would make it not be any faster. Go figure then a non moving drive is faster than a moving drive. Who'd thunk that. Great video!
Did you miss the part where SSDs were hecking expensive back then? The bump in load times wasn't big enoug to justify a ludicrously expensive 128gb SSD over getting dramatically more space for less with a 500gb HDD. Yeah, physics, obviously, but also the price you paid for what you got back then was a big consideration.
@@KiraSlith This was like in 2016, they weren't particularly expensive back then. I can't find the exact thread I was on but go look up the thread "A question regarding hard drives 2016" people were saying that.
I sorta miss the High School arguments of why PS3 was better than 360 at the time. Of course I'm not as close minded to Xbox now. But back then I was all in on PS3. I mostly just liked being different in school.
@@sonicstarman9663 😂😂 I was the same way but I really did love playstation back then. The ps2 and ps3 were the first consoles I bought with my own money
@@sonicstarman9663 I was a person who owned a Nintendo Wii, and it was worth it. Considering the longevity and least expensive route compared to the Xbox 360 and PS3's issues were on the console, The Nintendo Wii would be the last console I would ever get in the 7th generation, before I moved on to COD Black Ops 1 in 2011, and then eventually PC gaming in 2015 and never looked back.
@@SuperFlashDriver I'm definitely more of a Nintendo and PC guy now. Other than Nintendo, SEGA, Square Enix and sometimes Bandai Namco, Insomniac and Capcom, and other Sony studios, I don't care about most triple a games. Most of the games I play on my PC, are older games that I missed out on or indie games that would more than likely appeal to a Nintendo fan. I still go back to consoles sometimes mostly because I prefer Linux over Windows. Steam Proton is awesome. But it's still hit or miss outside of Steam.
@@sonicstarman9663 Yeah. I used to be a Nintendo fan on their consoles but I stopped buying them after the Nintendo Wii. Linux on the other hand I have not tried out yet so that's something I've yet to ssee and check out someday.
Yes, it only just takes a mere 7 hours to install gran Turismo 6. PS3 always was a deeply flawed piece of hardware with usability issues. Thankfully, pretty much every noteworthy game it had was rereleased and improved on PS4.
Such a great console that it never got forwards compatibility with PS4 or 5 because of it's wierd architecture lol. It was a nightmare to develop for and still is an emulation nightmare.
One thing I saw when I upgraded to a ssd on my ps3, when using heavy titles like GTAV or metal Gear 4/5 and black ops 2 was instant texture pop in. Where all the game assets loaded properly and quickly. Also load time diminished.
Another benefit of the SSD is the thermals. Mechanical drives generate a lot more heat which the console has to work even harder to dissipate and cool. By using an SSD, you're keeping the internal temps down and prolonging the life of the console and reducing YLOD.
Literally doesn't make any noticeable difference. Your console is constantly working with 100s of watts of heat from the main motherboard alone, so a few watts less will do nothing. It was designed with HDDs so it'll continue to run fine.
Two things to note about the installation of fear 3. It's either a limitation of the BluRay drive or a limitation of the SATA generation that both HDD and SSD are connected to. It's likely that it's a little of both. Even HDDs saw an improvement in performance shifting from SATA 3 gbps to SATA 6 gbps
Comment a little late, but without a doubt the game that benefited most from SSD on the PS3 was Final Fantasy 14, and I'm not even talking about loading times but rather about real influence on the game. There were cases of NPCs, enemies, or players not loading because the PS3's HDD couldn't support a game of this scale, and to be honest, just having this game run on the PS3 was incredible. But the SSD really made an absurd difference, I recommend anyone interested in the subject to take a look at a comparison.
what good is LBP on PS3 if all the servers are shut down? you making levels to play with your friends locally? playing the story? I just made a track in LBP karting for the first time in like 10 years, but LBP Karting at least does not have a working PS4 game as a replacement.
@@Unlucky1776 TLOU I’ve noticed it load in about 5-10 seconds, GTA5 still takes some time to load but if you’re going very fast you won’t deal with objects randomly appearing in front of you as they typically would with the stock HDD.
I recently upgraded my PS3 with an SSD and although it only makes a marginal difference to load times due to SATA 1 speeds, it makes a MASSIVE difference to both the snappiness of the XMB and level streaming in game. When playing GTA 4, it used to take about 7 seconds to load in everything around me and nothing would load in when travelling at massive speeds, now everything loads almost instantaneously and traversal stutter is completely gone
Nice work! I have a 480GB SSD in my PS3. Load times are good (and the XMB is very snappy). I might try to copy the data into a 2.5-inch HDD (either with the backup utility or Acronis) in order to compare loading times. I don't plan to compare install times thought.
I installed an ssd years ago the added benefit is that you have a ton of free space. Remember guys games were a lot smaller (storage) than they are today! I still have the PS3 today and it still works great.
Absolutely. Games were below the 10gb/15gb limit for the discs and games, Xbox 360 were usually under 10Gb (near the 7/8gb mark, and Nintendo Wii is near the same amount of gigabytes (4/5gbs) as the ones from the PS2 & Xbox 2001 console (aka Original Xbox, The First Variation of the Xbox console). If there are SSDs you can get that are 4Tbs, you can fit the entire PS3 library, including PS2 and PS1, and still be able to play these games with excellent storage capacity and speed.
@SuperFlashDriver ps3 is limited to under 2TB as it uses MBR. You can use 1tb internal (safer then the 1.5tb mod) and get external hdd to load your isos using webman irisman
@@mannyjoseph4520 Ahhh you were talking about the console...Sorry, I must have talked about emulation...Sorry for the confusion. But I would say it would have to be separate TB hard disk drives to switch back and fourth for different game installs then (If I end up having more than twenty games or so to play on the actual PS3 console).
320 gb is enough if u play no moded console , as on ps3 it's often semi install game for the game of end of era , 2012 - 2017 game from start era 2006 - 2011 , won"t install anything ( of physical ) they was rare
5200rpm HDD really does drag compared to solid state Certain instances seem to also be limited by the CPU and ram prioritizations due to the PS3's optimization.
gt6 is bad exemple the game is full of small file , small file is make reading more slow tha same among of data in 1 big file , that why this game is slow to install too on ps3
some games have issues with SSD on PS3 and since the Biggest drive without going through hoops you can install is 1TB going with an SSHD is the best solution for PS3 sure some games will load several seconds faster but some won't so considering you only get this with of course the issues some games has it's not worth it
My brother was an early adopter of SSDs....he had a 32GB SSD but he didn't pay $699 for it...I think he bought it when it was like $300...I thought he was crazy for paying $300 for 32GB when you could get like a 250GB or 320GB mechanical drive for about half that....but at the same time I wasn't into PC gaming at that time....What I used a PC for was very light...web browsing, listening to music and watching videos. About 6 years ago I got into PC gaming and realized how important an SSD really is...I had a laptop with a 512GB SSD and 1TB mechanical drive and put my AAA games on the SSD and put stuff like emulators, ROMs, music and movies on the mechanical drive. Now I just have an SSD in my laptop and just need more space for everything I do on it...
I installed an SSD into my PS3 back in 2010 using a 128Gb. System remained cooler longer, faster install & level load times, less jaggies, & smoother gameplay. I installed an SSD in my base & Pro PS4 as well.
The tests conducted in this video were just loading of the save file. The games still took quite a while (20sec or so) to load because they are loaded from their game discs.
What lots of people dont talk about is the fact that while the PS3 has a SATA port its actually converted from USB 3.0 So you are getting really slow speeds from that SATA slot. Maybe a PS3 Slim fixed it giving native SATA but i doubt it. Second, one of biggest benefits of using a SSD is going to the PS store and navigation everything is smooth as butter while the HDD takes forever to load stuff up and menus are chugging alone. Lastly what no one online talks about is Textures. Look at a game like boarderlands or something that is trying to stream data. You will have things loading in late. With an SSD everything loads in clear. The PS3 was an interesting system that quite frankly got cut back to save money that it really hurt it in the end. Im more excited to see emulation in the next 5 years making these games run like they should have.
usb 3 don't existed in 2006 , when ps3 was created i played gta 3 in 2013 and with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n 80 gb model ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 piece of laoding , bcuz data is more near , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want , so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch ssd have not this problem
I installed a ssd in my ps3 too. The big thing holding back the ssd speed is the ps3 sata controller which a sata I. The iops are way better than a spinning hdd.
Infamous and Infamous 2 are just about my favorite games on the PS3. Yes, I highly recommend you play Infamous (the original) in addition to its sequel ! It would make more sense to play them in order for the storyline. It's not 100% necessity IMO
The main question I have is this: what kind of SSD did you purchase? Was it one with a DRAM Cache and high quality NAND? Or was it a cheap no-name SSD. Because some SSDs can perform worse than a hard drive if they’re made too cheaply.
@@mindrover777 around $30 can get you a good sata SSD with either a dram or slc cache. But, the market is also flooded with extremely poorly made ssds that sometimes are slower than a hard drive. No matter the budget, I was just curious on which one was used in the video. Also, to anybody seeing this: do not buy any WD Blue SATA SSDs - after having to deal with the horrendous speeds while trying to explain to friends and customers about why their computer is being slow with a newly purchased SSD, I had explain this exact principle.
One of the biggest differences for me was dark souls 2, going from disc which loaded 20-30 seconds on deaths or teleporting to about 5 seconds with an ssd
ive got a 1tb ssd in my ps3 slim... been in there about 2 years, its perhaps marginally faster but its more consistent which was a bigger factor for me... and more reliable.
these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd here my exemple : i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want , so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch ssd have not this problem
It's a freaking massive improvement. So much so a few games actually perform better due to less loading pauses dragging the minimums down. It's incredible and totally worth it if you love your PS3. Get one with high endurance. I got a 500GB 860 Evo for mine and it should last the life of the console with care.
life or ssd are affected by writing only i will never install 300 tb of game inside a 1 tb hdd inside a ps3 , even if u want install fully and deleted the sdd everyday, ps3 is too slow for have 1 gb of data per day from network , that mean even with 10 % of that , ur ssd will last at last 10 x more , go for it , life is not a problem , gaming don't use ssd on ps3 , ps3 don't write during game it's only reading and save of few mb/sec wont never use the writing life of any ssd , even i try to install 1 tb per day ( if u can have so many data per day what i doubt bcuz sony server is limited around 5 or 6 mb /sec , u will never get 1 tb per 24hour ) so u can rest rassured of life of your ssd
This upgrade has 2 other bonuses that makes it worth it the XMB Menu works better but also games perform slightly better not just loading faster but actually playing closer to what they should've played as since the console doesn't have to allocate as many resources to loading the game anymore once its loaded its loaded
This is making me think I gotta figure out how to clone my PS3's 1tb HDD to a 2tb SSD and expand the partition. Sadly the usual partition cloning tools that exist, both on Windows and Linux don't work with this due to whatever Sony does with the drives it formats, cause they're encrypted. Legit lost my original 40gb HDD's data cause the fat PS3 YLOD'ed and I couldn't access the drive contents to recover the files.
I did this to both of my original ps3s but didn’t do it to my super slim because it runs cooler than both and runs fine with the hard drive it has “500gb”
I just put one in my ps3 because retired my sata ssd from my pc cuz I got an m.2 that's 2tb cheap. So having more space than default is going to be nice in ps3
I installed a SSHD on my PS3 years ago and it does its thing good enough, 15€ for 500+8GB back in 2021, despite the tiny NAND cache everything is much smoother, even the XMB UI. They are no longer produced AFAIK (as soon the NAND got cheaper as it is today the mechanical part become pointless and they got retired) so a SSD is a must now, but note the PS3 System Software doesn't support the ATA TRIM command, the SSD will suffer degraded performance after quite some write and delete cycles (being a console it will take time but it will eventually happen).
I got an SSD just so the XMB would quit stuttering, the hard drives used even in the PS3 slims are way way worse than the ones eventually used in the PS4. The loading times in games are not that bad but it's the responsiveness that really counts
these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd here my exemple : i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want , so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch ssd have not this problem
hdd ps3 is bad for density too they was made almost 15 year ago and they was often not even reach the limit of sata 1 themself , last Hdd 2.5 , 1 Tb or 2 tb is far more faster , i guess the better HDD in 2.5 inch is almost 165 mb/sec hdd from ps3 from 2006 by exemple it's 50-60 mb/sec of reading speed depend the brand and 35 - 45 mb /of writing
People always state “it cant take advantage of the hardware”. Those people have no clue, what they are talking about. The menu is improved, pop in is improved, and the screening tearing is gone. So the major complaints are gone. Any game that needs internal storage will see a massive difference. Far Cry for example is such a big difference. The SSD will always perform better. GTA V being installed on the SSD only huge difference in performance, and load times. Im not sure what SSD I put in my PS3 super slim. But theres not really load times. Im doing the same thing to my PS4 to increase its performance, & mainly storage.
these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd here my exemple : i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want , so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch ssd have not this problem
Thanks for hard drive lessen. The PS3 does have a rebuild database option though in safe mode. So it actually can defragment the hdd or ssd or sshd, whatever you put in it. But older toshiba hdds are prone to failure back in the day. 😢
@@jaimeerobertswarz even if they have defragment , u never know where physical data are placed , there is different type of defragmentation methode , some are just '' deplacing the data without gap on the disk , without store them from file to same folder , that mean a folder can contain file near ( a bunch of photo by exemple ) stored in end of disk and other file in start of disk , even if they near in the folder , that mean the head will have to move for search them for start to end ( big seek acces ) some defragmente will place the data from a same folder physicaly near in the plater disk , it's more long and windows never do that by exemple ( some program do ) it's like at home u can have box of apple and box of peach fully stored in place in your kicthen but they still not in the order bewteen box they still mixed , but they are stored in same '' room '' it's exaclty same , if u want force a game to be stored at better place u have to delete all , hdd place the data in empty place by priority
@@pochul do you think its safe on a PS4 Pro using an 1tb SSHD 7200 rpm with 8gb catche to rebuild the database every month? Or is that potentially decreasing the sshds lifespan? Because I see all these videos stating speed up your ps4 or ps4 by rebuilding the data base all the time. Im like are you sure? Because like you stated it will need to find the files all over again. So in theory wouldnt it make the console slower the more you do it?
@@jaimeerobertswarz i don't think it's will chance sshd are diffrent , they just put data on SSD when they read a lot the same file often, on the fly , u can'"t controle which data are in the ssd part , it's acting like a caching/buffer in ram but on the nand portion , not like a real ssd
on a normal hdd the map will disappear in gta v on ps3 while driving really fast SSD fixed this isssue game fully downloaded to the drive btw not disc version
so far i know the PS3 [FAT] only has a SATA2 Connection to the drive. so a SSD has not that big of an impact then a SATA3 Connection. sure its still a few seconds. but i would only replace the HDD for an SSD when i have a spare one left or the HDD is failing
Interesting results, i swapped my ps3 over to a 750gb 10 000 rpm drive in 2012 and havnt looked back. I may have missed where you say what drive speed you are using i am assuming its a oem 5400rpm
Anyone thats ever played ffxiv on a ps3 when it was still supported knows that an ssd was pretty much required lol. It was ridiculous how long loading times were without it. Like when you queue in a dungeon or w.e it was very easy to tell who was on a ps3 without an ssd.
What about open-world games that struggled with pop-in? And what about running games with install files on the internal storage but running on the disc, how would it perform with an SSD instead of HDD?
If you REALLY want to see an improvement, compare DVD to HDD when playing GTA SA on PS2. Very little visible popin vs you can crash into invisible buildings of you go fast enough
I never installed a ssd because i was always listening to everyone else on the psx-scene forums saying it was overkill. I did however install a seagate hybrid drive and did notice quicker installs. At this point tho ssd drives are cheap.
I noticed a similar difference just upgrading to a newer, larger HDD. The HDDs they included in the PS3 were notoriously slow, even by HDD standards! I don't like the idea of using an SSD with an OS that doesn't support TRIM.
exaclty u right these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd here my exemple : i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want , so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch ssd have not this problem
Well, i don't think it would be a meaningful boost to the performance but, i've changed my PS3's HDD with an SSD and the loading times in games are by all mean massively improved however although u can put a 2TB SSD on that console but i recommend to stick with 1TB or lower duo to u have to install a CFW in order to modify the PS3 if u need a higher capacity And also 1TB was more affordable to me so, i just went with a 1TB WD Blue which is acceptable for consoles of this era I've also run Multiman and backed up my games on the internal SSD so the games should be running much faster and smoother
its not gonna be maxing out any modern SSD since the PS3 likely has a SATA1 or SATA2 controller which runs at 150MBPS and 300MBPS respectively and its doesn't always perform on its max performance but its still better than an HDD that would normally run at 40-100MBPS depending where on the HDD the data is written on.
I’m watching this while installing Diablo 3 and holy crap would an SSD be helpful. Takes like an hour or two to install 10-15 gb. Not even taking into account the download time.
The two biggest reasons for switching is not only the size (8TB max) but they'll survive longer than a mechanical drive. A HDD's mechanical parts including the motor gain a higher fail rate the older it gets with most Laptop HDDs failing in less than six years. The biggest cause is due to the lubrication drying out. A good SSD can last from 8-10 years (heavy use) up to 20 years (light use) though it depends on the brand & model.
my ssd V300 kingston from 2012 is still ok i use almost everyday after almost 12 year in my netbook ( light surf no game ) crystal disk mark say 29 TB write and 47 TB of reading ( this ssd have compression on the fly for better spanlife ) , but my hdd from 2001 ide still work too , it's depend of disk and brand , some of my hdd from 2007 was die already 10 year ago
my hdd ide from 1994 ( 512 mb ) was still running less than 10 year ago in 2014 but few year ago i don't know when it's not worked anymore it's spin but not can read anything on it , i remember have do an install of win 98 inside in 2003 , it's still runned at this time lol , is spin is noisy but he not click sound , i think it's not the platter , but the connection ide or some chip , bcuz electricaly it's run and spin without bad sound
These times need to be redone. You said you'll skip thru menus quick but you did only for the SSD. You chose your track @ 1:52 compared to the HDD versions you took your time clicking what you needed.
It's important to note that HDDs often degrade over time, so for this to have been a fair test both drives should have been somewhat new with not too many read/write cycles.
ps3 do'nt write anything when u play exept if u install , u won"t install TB of game everyday on ps3 , 1 Tb ssd can last at least 300 TB of data before some cell die ( for the bad ssd ) don't worry , ps3 is pure reading ,reading don't affect the lifespan of ssd
nobody will install 1 TB of game on ps3 everyday it's impossible ( due at network speed ) even if u do this ur ssd will last 1 year , than mean just 10 % of that install 100 gb per day of game ( that a lot ) u will last at least 10 year !! will people really will install 100 gb of game everyday for 10 year everyday lol ( it's 3000 day to install 100 gb of game everyday lol ))?? it's insane , so don't worry for writing cycle of ssd in ps3
I have only had the stock HHD in my ps3, and have never really even used it. I've always played my games from the disc. If you have the games saved on the hard drive, do you have to have the disc in?
On the stock firmware the disc is required. On custom firmware, you can use multiman or webman to copy the disc to the drive and launch the game with no disc.
While I'm sure the SSD would still beat the HDD any day of the week, I think it was quite unfair comparison with the *retail* HDD being nearly 20 years old (actually impressive it still runs today) that would surely have worn out through all that time. A better comparison would've been a brand new HDD with same capacity vs the SSD.
An HDD doesn't get worn out if fired up regularly (to keep the platter magnetized and capacitors charged). Performance also won't be be affected by age in this case here.
@@iplyrunescape305 Sorry, meant to say that it does get worn out mechanically but still negligible effect on performance so another comparison is unnecessary. As for drops and misc fall damage, the HDD is screwed down to the console so the there should be little to no damage as shock is absorbed by the console. If it does break then likely, so would be the whole system itself.
@@pathfindercast yeah I think mine is being bottlenecked due to my hard drive I swapped in.Yet when I play a game from disc it works much better with less frame drops than backups.it was an old laptop HDD i should prolly got a newer one or faster one it's a 5400 rpm not even 7000 whatever
There is a link in the description. It was a cheaper SSD that I found on Amazon for around $65.00 and the brand was fanxiang. I had never heard of it, but only bought it because it was cheap but still had good reviews.
Your info is outdated. That was about 15 years ago. SATA SSD already hit their SATA III interface limit 3-4 years later. The one he bought is a modern SATA SSD.
@@pathfindercastFor this PS3 scenario, any SATA SSD will work just fine. Whether you buy the cheapest or the most expensive SATA SSD for a given capacity, won't make a difference and you would still get the same performance results. That is why my PS3 and PS4 is fitted with the cheapest 1TB SATA SSD I could possibly find, even if they came from some cheap crappy Chinese company.
@@omegawii Partially true, but another big difference that can effect performance would be the interface the SSD is connected to. Regardless, no modern SATA SSD would be any slower than an HDD.
i have ssd on my fat 60 gb with ssd 60gb sandisk , and doA5 have almost no loading time at all maybe 3 or 4 sec between fight , u can't even move camera now , bcuz it's too fast , some game are already optimised for ps3 and u wont have any performance , specialy game who not have install mid gen game era (' 2006 from 2012 ) wont have install , or partial install , upgrade ssd work well for last game who have semi install from 2012 to 2017 game
not much, considering the read speed of a sata ssd is around 10x than a sata hdd, these time differences are miniscule, 60 secs loading time on a HDD should be sub 10 secs on SSD... and it is not
So NOT insert a SSD into a PS3! It’s true that it’s minimal faster then a traditional hard drive, but the PS3 doesn’t have the TRIM command, which is absolutely required if you don’t want your SSD to die. Also the hard drive interface of the PS3 throttle the speed of a SSD, so it’s not worthy anyway. An better solution for older systems like the PS3 would be a hybrid solution like an SSHD
I have updated my console with a 1tb hhd but the games cutscenes are glitching! Game runs perfect just cutscenes!! Do you think it's the new hhd and changing to a ssd would fix the issue?
I responded to a Reddit thread years ago of someone asking if an SSD would speed up their PS3. I was down voted because I said it would, but brainlets on reddit said the SATA speeds would make it not be any faster. Go figure then a non moving drive is faster than a moving drive. Who'd thunk that. Great video!
And it runs cooler. More reliable, too. Stuffed one in my PS2 for OPL. Box-art loads instantly!
@@curtis8516You can use an ssd on the ps2? I have one but never opened it up. Mine is slim
@@LoneWolff892 You need an adapter to make it work but it has an expansion bay that fits an IDE or SATA drive.
Did you miss the part where SSDs were hecking expensive back then? The bump in load times wasn't big enoug to justify a ludicrously expensive 128gb SSD over getting dramatically more space for less with a 500gb HDD. Yeah, physics, obviously, but also the price you paid for what you got back then was a big consideration.
@@KiraSlith This was like in 2016, they weren't particularly expensive back then. I can't find the exact thread I was on but go look up the thread "A question regarding hard drives 2016" people were saying that.
2006...My God, that seems like a lifetime ago. Though it was at the tail end, I so miss the sixth console generation.
I sorta miss the High School arguments of why PS3 was better than 360 at the time. Of course I'm not as close minded to Xbox now. But back then I was all in on PS3. I mostly just liked being different in school.
@@sonicstarman9663 😂😂 I was the same way but I really did love playstation back then. The ps2 and ps3 were the first consoles I bought with my own money
@@sonicstarman9663 I was a person who owned a Nintendo Wii, and it was worth it. Considering the longevity and least expensive route compared to the Xbox 360 and PS3's issues were on the console, The Nintendo Wii would be the last console I would ever get in the 7th generation, before I moved on to COD Black Ops 1 in 2011, and then eventually PC gaming in 2015 and never looked back.
@@SuperFlashDriver I'm definitely more of a Nintendo and PC guy now. Other than Nintendo, SEGA, Square Enix and sometimes Bandai Namco, Insomniac and Capcom, and other Sony studios, I don't care about most triple a games. Most of the games I play on my PC, are older games that I missed out on or indie games that would more than likely appeal to a Nintendo fan. I still go back to consoles sometimes mostly because I prefer Linux over Windows. Steam Proton is awesome. But it's still hit or miss outside of Steam.
@@sonicstarman9663 Yeah. I used to be a Nintendo fan on their consoles but I stopped buying them after the Nintendo Wii. Linux on the other hand I have not tried out yet so that's something I've yet to ssee and check out someday.
Ps3 is such a great console even today so many great games to go back and play
It’s a terrible console with a great library of games. Plagued with issues. Xbox 360 was the same though. Bad generation for reliability.
Yes, it only just takes a mere 7 hours to install gran Turismo 6. PS3 always was a deeply flawed piece of hardware with usability issues. Thankfully, pretty much every noteworthy game it had was rereleased and improved on PS4.
Such a great console that it never got forwards compatibility with PS4 or 5 because of it's wierd architecture lol. It was a nightmare to develop for and still is an emulation nightmare.
PS3 was a nightmare but only actual gamers from then remember… some good games I guess. Not even that, everything is now remastered lol
Im Currently Play all 4 Sly Coopers
One thing I saw when I upgraded to a ssd on my ps3, when using heavy titles like GTAV or metal Gear 4/5 and black ops 2 was instant texture pop in. Where all the game assets loaded properly and quickly. Also load time diminished.
Another benefit of the SSD is the thermals. Mechanical drives generate a lot more heat which the console has to work even harder to dissipate and cool. By using an SSD, you're keeping the internal temps down and prolonging the life of the console and reducing YLOD.
Literally doesn't make any noticeable difference. Your console is constantly working with 100s of watts of heat from the main motherboard alone, so a few watts less will do nothing. It was designed with HDDs so it'll continue to run fine.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatYeah but placebo effect make brain happy
@@ReverieFlows i love your reply.
@@LoneWolff892 I love your reply even more
This is just wrong, SSD's run hotter than HDD's.
Two things to note about the installation of fear 3. It's either a limitation of the BluRay drive or a limitation of the SATA generation that both HDD and SSD are connected to. It's likely that it's a little of both. Even HDDs saw an improvement in performance shifting from SATA 3 gbps to SATA 6 gbps
If I recall correctly, the PS3 had SATA 1.0 (1.5Gbps, or 150MBps.)
Comment a little late, but without a doubt the game that benefited most from SSD on the PS3 was Final Fantasy 14, and I'm not even talking about loading times but rather about real influence on the game. There were cases of NPCs, enemies, or players not loading because the PS3's HDD couldn't support a game of this scale, and to be honest, just having this game run on the PS3 was incredible.
But the SSD really made an absurd difference, I recommend anyone interested in the subject to take a look at a comparison.
I’ve had an SSD in my ps3 for a while now, the ssd REALLY helps with LittleBigPlanet 3. LBP2 also gets helped out with the SSD
what good is LBP on PS3 if all the servers are shut down? you making levels to play with your friends locally? playing the story?
I just made a track in LBP karting for the first time in like 10 years, but LBP Karting at least does not have a working PS4 game as a replacement.
@@gamerguy425 there’s custom servers for LBP1, LBP2, LBP3, and LBP Vita.
Karting is a WIP.
@@w0lf4llo84how is it with games like gta5 or the last of us?
@@Unlucky1776 TLOU I’ve noticed it load in about 5-10 seconds, GTA5 still takes some time to load but if you’re going very fast you won’t deal with objects randomly appearing in front of you as they typically would with the stock HDD.
@@w0lf4llo84 wow 5-10 seconds?! On my base PS3 it takes nearly 5 minutes just to start a chapter...
I recently upgraded my PS3 with an SSD and although it only makes a marginal difference to load times due to SATA 1 speeds, it makes a MASSIVE difference to both the snappiness of the XMB and level streaming in game. When playing GTA 4, it used to take about 7 seconds to load in everything around me and nothing would load in when travelling at massive speeds, now everything loads almost instantaneously and traversal stutter is completely gone
Nice work! I have a 480GB SSD in my PS3. Load times are good (and the XMB is very snappy). I might try to copy the data into a 2.5-inch HDD (either with the backup utility or Acronis) in order to compare loading times. I don't plan to compare install times thought.
Same here. Kingston 480GB SSD brand.🎉
Even in online gaming on SSD is crazy..
I installed an ssd years ago the added benefit is that you have a ton of free space. Remember guys games were a lot smaller (storage) than they are today! I still have the PS3 today and it still works great.
Absolutely. Games were below the 10gb/15gb limit for the discs and games, Xbox 360 were usually under 10Gb (near the 7/8gb mark, and Nintendo Wii is near the same amount of gigabytes (4/5gbs) as the ones from the PS2 & Xbox 2001 console (aka Original Xbox, The First Variation of the Xbox console).
If there are SSDs you can get that are 4Tbs, you can fit the entire PS3 library, including PS2 and PS1, and still be able to play these games with excellent storage capacity and speed.
@@SuperFlashDriverThere’s no way you’re fitting the entire PS3 library of games on a 4TB drive.
@@Wally17. I have a 10TB/20TB drive if necessary.
@SuperFlashDriver ps3 is limited to under 2TB as it uses MBR. You can use 1tb internal (safer then the 1.5tb mod) and get external hdd to load your isos using webman irisman
@@mannyjoseph4520 Ahhh you were talking about the console...Sorry, I must have talked about emulation...Sorry for the confusion. But I would say it would have to be separate TB hard disk drives to switch back and fourth for different game installs then (If I end up having more than twenty games or so to play on the actual PS3 console).
wow they used Swap Meet by Nirvana in the main menu of Motorstorm Pacific Rift, never noticed that before. Very underrated song
I cannot express enough how much I love that shirt.
Thanks. It was swag from a tech conference I went to a while ago.
For a 512gb ssd for only 20 bucks I said why not? Jus last week I started thinking of updating the old 250 drive.
320 gb is enough if u play no moded console , as on ps3 it's often semi install game for the game of end of era , 2012 - 2017 game from start era 2006 - 2011 , won"t install anything ( of physical ) they was rare
5200rpm HDD really does drag compared to solid state
Certain instances seem to also be limited by the CPU and ram prioritizations due to the PS3's optimization.
gt6 is bad exemple the game is full of small file , small file is make reading more slow tha same among of data in 1 big file , that why this game is slow to install too on ps3
Exactly what I was looking for! Great video mate!
Good video! I really liked how you showed and told some information about each game!
some games have issues with SSD on PS3 and since the Biggest drive without going through hoops you can install is 1TB going with an SSHD is the best solution for PS3 sure some games will load several seconds faster but some won't so considering you only get this with of course the issues some games has it's not worth it
Honestly such a cool video! Thanks for making my day, I woke up to this and took my first cup of coffee 🥰
My brother was an early adopter of SSDs....he had a 32GB SSD but he didn't pay $699 for it...I think he bought it when it was like $300...I thought he was crazy for paying $300 for 32GB when you could get like a 250GB or 320GB mechanical drive for about half that....but at the same time I wasn't into PC gaming at that time....What I used a PC for was very light...web browsing, listening to music and watching videos. About 6 years ago I got into PC gaming and realized how important an SSD really is...I had a laptop with a 512GB SSD and 1TB mechanical drive and put my AAA games on the SSD and put stuff like emulators, ROMs, music and movies on the mechanical drive. Now I just have an SSD in my laptop and just need more space for everything I do on it...
I installed an SSD into my PS3 back in 2010 using a 128Gb.
System remained cooler longer, faster install & level load times, less jaggies, & smoother gameplay.
I installed an SSD in my base & Pro PS4 as well.
The tests conducted in this video were just loading of the save file.
The games still took quite a while (20sec or so) to load because they are loaded from their game discs.
hm Nice Video And Good Work but how it will take long to play GTA IV in a ssd from an hdd that would be epic
Great question, I just picked up both GTA IV and V for ps3 this week. I have yet to test them.
Great video. My favourite console and it's great to see people pushing the limits.
Thanks. It was a fun project to test it out.
What lots of people dont talk about is the fact that while the PS3 has a SATA port its actually converted from USB 3.0 So you are getting really slow speeds from that SATA slot. Maybe a PS3 Slim fixed it giving native SATA but i doubt it. Second, one of biggest benefits of using a SSD is going to the PS store and navigation everything is smooth as butter while the HDD takes forever to load stuff up and menus are chugging alone. Lastly what no one online talks about is Textures. Look at a game like boarderlands or something that is trying to stream data. You will have things loading in late. With an SSD everything loads in clear. The PS3 was an interesting system that quite frankly got cut back to save money that it really hurt it in the end. Im more excited to see emulation in the next 5 years making these games run like they should have.
usb 3 don't existed in 2006 , when ps3 was created
i played gta 3 in 2013 and with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n 80 gb model ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 piece of laoding , bcuz data is more near , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want ,
so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind
it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch
ssd have not this problem
I installed a ssd in my ps3 too. The big thing holding back the ssd speed is the ps3 sata controller which a sata I. The iops are way better than a spinning hdd.
Infamous and Infamous 2 are just about my favorite games on the PS3. Yes, I highly recommend you play Infamous (the original) in addition to its sequel ! It would make more sense to play them in order for the storyline. It's not 100% necessity IMO
I have a sony Frankenstein backwards compatible ps3 with oc cfw and a 1tb ssd. Makes the ps3 run like you remember not like how it actually does
this guy looks so friendly, i like him
The main question I have is this: what kind of SSD did you purchase? Was it one with a DRAM Cache and high quality NAND? Or was it a cheap no-name SSD. Because some SSDs can perform worse than a hard drive if they’re made too cheaply.
That depends on your budget. Do some research before the purchase.
@@mindrover777 around $30 can get you a good sata SSD with either a dram or slc cache. But, the market is also flooded with extremely poorly made ssds that sometimes are slower than a hard drive. No matter the budget, I was just curious on which one was used in the video. Also, to anybody seeing this: do not buy any WD Blue SATA SSDs - after having to deal with the horrendous speeds while trying to explain to friends and customers about why their computer is being slow with a newly purchased SSD, I had explain this exact principle.
This was a great video
Really interesting
One of the biggest differences for me was dark souls 2, going from disc which loaded 20-30 seconds on deaths or teleporting to about 5 seconds with an ssd
ive got a 1tb ssd in my ps3 slim... been in there about 2 years, its perhaps marginally faster but its more consistent which was a bigger factor for me... and more reliable.
these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd
here my exemple :
i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly ,
an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want ,
so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind
it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch
ssd have not this problem
It's a freaking massive improvement. So much so a few games actually perform better due to less loading pauses dragging the minimums down. It's incredible and totally worth it if you love your PS3. Get one with high endurance. I got a 500GB 860 Evo for mine and it should last the life of the console with care.
life or ssd are affected by writing only i will never install 300 tb of game inside a 1 tb hdd inside a ps3 , even if u want install fully and deleted the sdd everyday, ps3 is too slow for have 1 gb of data per day from network , that mean even with 10 % of that , ur ssd will last at last 10 x more , go for it , life is not a problem , gaming don't use ssd on ps3 , ps3 don't write during game it's only reading and save of few mb/sec wont never use the writing life of any ssd , even i try to install 1 tb per day ( if u can have so many data per day what i doubt bcuz sony server is limited around 5 or 6 mb /sec , u will never get 1 tb per 24hour ) so u can rest rassured of life of your ssd
This upgrade has 2 other bonuses that makes it worth it the XMB Menu works better but also games perform slightly better not just loading faster but actually playing closer to what they should've played as since the console doesn't have to allocate as many resources to loading the game anymore once its loaded its loaded
This is making me think I gotta figure out how to clone my PS3's 1tb HDD to a 2tb SSD and expand the partition. Sadly the usual partition cloning tools that exist, both on Windows and Linux don't work with this due to whatever Sony does with the drives it formats, cause they're encrypted. Legit lost my original 40gb HDD's data cause the fat PS3 YLOD'ed and I couldn't access the drive contents to recover the files.
i upgraded my ps3 to sdd a long time ago. and i notice it even smooth out game play a bit i noticed less micro stutters
I did this to both of my original ps3s but didn’t do it to my super slim because it runs cooler than both and runs fine with the hard drive it has “500gb”
Nice. Yah the original 20GB and 80GB HDDs are so small nowadays. The 500gb drives can allow a lot more games to install on the drive.
Well I have a 500 gb and she's full 😂😂😅
I would love to upgrade all 5 of my PlayStations.
An SSD for my 3 and 5 is definitely top of the list.
I just put one in my ps3 because retired my sata ssd from my pc cuz I got an m.2 that's 2tb cheap. So having more space than default is going to be nice in ps3
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I installed a SSHD on my PS3 years ago and it does its thing good enough, 15€ for 500+8GB back in 2021, despite the tiny NAND cache everything is much smoother, even the XMB UI. They are no longer produced AFAIK (as soon the NAND got cheaper as it is today the mechanical part become pointless and they got retired) so a SSD is a must now, but note the PS3 System Software doesn't support the ATA TRIM command, the SSD will suffer degraded performance after quite some write and delete cycles (being a console it will take time but it will eventually happen).
Most manufactures now have firmware on SSD with the ability to handle some level of trim internally as long as the drive can sit idle long enough.
I got an SSD just so the XMB would quit stuttering, the hard drives used even in the PS3 slims are way way worse than the ones eventually used in the PS4. The loading times in games are not that bad but it's the responsiveness that really counts
these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd
here my exemple :
i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly ,
an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want ,
so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind
it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch
ssd have not this problem
hdd ps3 is bad for density too they was made almost 15 year ago and they was often not even reach the limit of sata 1 themself , last Hdd 2.5 , 1 Tb or 2 tb is far more faster , i guess the better HDD in 2.5 inch is almost 165 mb/sec
hdd from ps3 from 2006 by exemple it's 50-60 mb/sec of reading speed depend the brand and 35 - 45 mb /of writing
Been thinking of getting an ssd for my ps3 for a while now ever since collecting games for the system a few years ago
People always state “it cant take advantage of the hardware”.
Those people have no clue, what they are talking about.
The menu is improved, pop in is improved, and the screening tearing is gone. So the major complaints are gone.
Any game that needs internal storage will see a massive difference. Far Cry for example is such a big difference. The SSD will always perform better.
GTA V being installed on the SSD only huge difference in performance, and load times.
Im not sure what SSD I put in my PS3 super slim. But theres not really load times.
Im doing the same thing to my PS4 to increase its performance, & mainly storage.
these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd
here my exemple :
i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly ,
an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want ,
so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind
it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch
ssd have not this problem
Thanks for hard drive lessen. The PS3 does have a rebuild database option though in safe mode.
So it actually can defragment the hdd or ssd or sshd, whatever you put in it.
But older toshiba hdds are prone to failure back in the day. 😢
@@jaimeerobertswarz even if they have defragment , u never know where physical data are placed , there is different type of defragmentation methode , some are just '' deplacing the data without gap on the disk , without store them from file to same folder , that mean a folder can contain file near ( a bunch of photo by exemple ) stored in end of disk and other file in start of disk , even if they near in the folder , that mean the head will have to move for search them for start to end ( big seek acces ) some defragmente will place the data from a same folder physicaly near in the plater disk , it's more long and windows never do that by exemple ( some program do ) it's like at home u can have box of apple and box of peach fully stored in place in your kicthen but they still not in the order bewteen box they still mixed , but they are stored in same '' room '' it's exaclty same , if u want force a game to be stored at better place u have to delete all , hdd place the data in empty place by priority
@@pochul do you think its safe on a PS4 Pro using an 1tb SSHD 7200 rpm with 8gb catche to rebuild the database every month? Or is that potentially decreasing the sshds lifespan?
Because I see all these videos stating speed up your ps4 or ps4 by rebuilding the data base all the time. Im like are you sure? Because like you stated it will need to find the files all over again. So in theory wouldnt it make the console slower the more you do it?
@@jaimeerobertswarz i don't think it's will chance sshd are diffrent , they just put data on SSD when they read a lot the same file often, on the fly , u can'"t controle which data are in the ssd part , it's acting like a caching/buffer in ram but on the nand portion , not like a real ssd
On GTA games the results on the SSD are impressive
on a normal hdd the map will disappear in gta v on ps3 while driving really fast SSD fixed this isssue game fully downloaded to the drive btw not disc version
so far i know the PS3 [FAT] only has a SATA2 Connection to the drive. so a SSD has not that big of an impact then a SATA3 Connection. sure its still a few seconds. but i would only replace the HDD for an SSD when i have a spare one left or the HDD is failing
I'd assume it'd only be as fast as the system could process and use the information
You should try installing Gran Turismo 6 with the SSD vs with the harddrive
Interesting results, i swapped my ps3 over to a 750gb 10 000 rpm drive in 2012 and havnt looked back. I may have missed where you say what drive speed you are using i am assuming its a oem 5400rpm
This was awesome thank you so much for this
SSDs made the original Xbox, Xbox 360, PS3, Xbox One / X, PS4 / Pro better consoles anyway.
Sonic 2006 would be interesting to test.
Anyone thats ever played ffxiv on a ps3 when it was still supported knows that an ssd was pretty much required lol. It was ridiculous how long loading times were without it. Like when you queue in a dungeon or w.e it was very easy to tell who was on a ps3 without an ssd.
Would have been cool to see power draw as well, SSDs are a little more efficient as well.
I don’t know man I feel like you’re not getting all of Metal Gear Solid 4 unless you get to sit and watch Snake chain smoke for way too long.
I already knew the result however I wonder if using a newer spinning rust would have lowered the load times.
That tired old HDD just wants to take a nap
What about open-world games that struggled with pop-in? And what about running games with install files on the internal storage but running on the disc, how would it perform with an SSD instead of HDD?
If you REALLY want to see an improvement, compare DVD to HDD when playing GTA SA on PS2. Very little visible popin vs you can crash into invisible buildings of you go fast enough
I never installed a ssd because i was always listening to everyone else on the psx-scene forums saying it was overkill. I did however install a seagate hybrid drive and did notice quicker installs.
At this point tho ssd drives are cheap.
I noticed a similar difference just upgrading to a newer, larger HDD. The HDDs they included in the PS3 were notoriously slow, even by HDD standards! I don't like the idea of using an SSD with an OS that doesn't support TRIM.
exaclty u right
these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd
here my exemple :
i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly ,
an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want ,
so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind
it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch
ssd have not this problem
Well, i don't think it would be a meaningful boost to the performance but, i've changed my PS3's HDD with an SSD and the loading times in games are by all mean massively improved
however although u can put a 2TB SSD on that console but i recommend to stick with 1TB or lower duo to u have to install a CFW in order to modify the PS3 if u need a higher capacity
And also 1TB was more affordable to me so, i just went with a 1TB WD Blue which is acceptable for consoles of this era
I've also run Multiman and backed up my games on the internal SSD so the games should be running much faster and smoother
did you try sonic 06 with the ssd? i heard that game needs much faster load times because they are so long.
its not gonna be maxing out any modern SSD since the PS3 likely has a SATA1 or SATA2 controller which runs at 150MBPS and 300MBPS respectively and its doesn't always perform on its max performance but its still better than an HDD that would normally run at 40-100MBPS depending where on the HDD the data is written on.
I’m watching this while installing Diablo 3 and holy crap would an SSD be helpful. Takes like an hour or two to install 10-15 gb. Not even taking into account the download time.
Using a special cli tool to hide the last 300GB I have 1.7TB available of a 2TB SSD. Absolutely worth it
The two biggest reasons for switching is not only the size (8TB max) but they'll survive longer than a mechanical drive. A HDD's mechanical parts including the motor gain a higher fail rate the older it gets with most Laptop HDDs failing in less than six years. The biggest cause is due to the lubrication drying out. A good SSD can last from 8-10 years (heavy use) up to 20 years (light use) though it depends on the brand & model.
my ssd V300 kingston from 2012 is still ok i use almost everyday after almost 12 year in my netbook ( light surf no game ) crystal disk mark say 29 TB write and 47 TB of reading ( this ssd have compression on the fly for better spanlife ) , but my hdd from 2001 ide still work too , it's depend of disk and brand , some of my hdd from 2007 was die already 10 year ago
my hdd ide from 1994 ( 512 mb ) was still running less than 10 year ago in 2014 but few year ago i don't know when it's not worked anymore it's spin but not can read anything on it , i remember have do an install of win 98 inside in 2003 , it's still runned at this time lol , is spin is noisy but he not click sound , i think it's not the platter , but the connection ide or some chip , bcuz electricaly it's run and spin without bad sound
2oO6 i was running on pentium II machine back then
I never have an ps3 with ssd before but the games like demon souls and la noire runs much better
play both infamous games
SSD is a massive upgrade over platter.
one thing we notice is that there is less pop in in games
It's faster but not by much. As you say likely the limited speed of the disc drive and possibly the game not being optimised for SSD's either.
These times need to be redone. You said you'll skip thru menus quick but you did only for the SSD. You chose your track @ 1:52 compared to the HDD versions you took your time clicking what you needed.
do you realize why the PS3 blueray disc copied only a little faster to the ssd? or did you not think that test through?????????
optical bluray is limited to 22 mb/sec of reading , so it's just the acces seek time is better on ssd even with '' bad '' ssd than reading head of hdd
A noticeable difference but one that is limited, as usual, by the data bus the drives are connected to.
It's important to note that HDDs often degrade over time, so for this to have been a fair test both drives should have been somewhat new with not too many read/write cycles.
ps3 do'nt write anything when u play exept if u install , u won"t install TB of game everyday on ps3 , 1 Tb ssd can last at least 300 TB of data before some cell die ( for the bad ssd ) don't worry , ps3 is pure reading ,reading don't affect the lifespan of ssd
nobody will install 1 TB of game on ps3 everyday it's impossible ( due at network speed ) even if u do this ur ssd will last 1 year , than mean just 10 % of that install 100 gb per day of game ( that a lot ) u will last at least 10 year !! will people really will install 100 gb of game everyday for 10 year everyday lol ( it's 3000 day to install 100 gb of game everyday lol ))?? it's insane , so don't worry for writing cycle of ssd in ps3
Play infamous in order they're all great!
I have only had the stock HHD in my ps3, and have never really even used it. I've always played my games from the disc. If you have the games saved on the hard drive, do you have to have the disc in?
On the stock firmware the disc is required. On custom firmware, you can use multiman or webman to copy the disc to the drive and launch the game with no disc.
@@pathfindercast thanks!
GTA5 is the Goat of SSDs on PS3 test.
Changing scenes, and characters is quicker, much quicker.
works wery noice
saved ya 14 min
unrelated question, but how do you get such quick speeds with filezilla? when i do my transfers, it usually never gets past 1mb
Are you connected wired or wireless? I am connected with wired 1gb LAN. Not sure if that makes the difference.
@pathfindercast I am connected wireless. Is your LAN cable connected to the ps3 or the computer?
@pathfindercast AFAIK ps3 uses mandatory encryption, which is not very performant, so no matter the source, maximum write speed is 7Megabytes\sec
While I'm sure the SSD would still beat the HDD any day of the week, I think it was quite unfair comparison with the *retail* HDD being nearly 20 years old (actually impressive it still runs today) that would surely have worn out through all that time. A better comparison would've been a brand new HDD with same capacity vs the SSD.
An HDD doesn't get worn out if fired up regularly (to keep the platter magnetized and capacitors charged). Performance also won't be be affected by age in this case here.
@@KillRei So a HDD running for nearly 20 years and it doesn't wear out a single bit? Hard to believe.
not to mention any possible falls, rough movements, etc.
@@iplyrunescape305 Sorry, meant to say that it does get worn out mechanically but still negligible effect on performance so another comparison is unnecessary.
As for drops and misc fall damage, the HDD is screwed down to the console so the there should be little to no damage as shock is absorbed by the console. If it does break then likely, so would be the whole system itself.
You should have tried a new, regular hard drive to compare.
Would this or have you noticed more stable framerates due to the ssd
I don't have a definitive answer, but I think framerate is is affected more by CPU/GPU performance.
@@pathfindercast yeah I think mine is being bottlenecked due to my hard drive I swapped in.Yet when I play a game from disc it works much better with less frame drops than backups.it was an old laptop HDD i should prolly got a newer one or faster one it's a 5400 rpm not even 7000 whatever
Certainly is an improvement, but it seems like the SSD can only go so far on its own. Pretty sure its bottlenecked
really would like to see comparison between ssd vs sshd.
Great video
What SSD were you using? Not all SSDs are fast. Some are barely faster than a traditional hard drive.
There is a link in the description. It was a cheaper SSD that I found on Amazon for around $65.00 and the brand was fanxiang. I had never heard of it, but only bought it because it was cheap but still had good reviews.
Your info is outdated. That was about 15 years ago. SATA SSD already hit their SATA III interface limit 3-4 years later. The one he bought is a modern SATA SSD.
@@pathfindercastFor this PS3 scenario, any SATA SSD will work just fine. Whether you buy the cheapest or the most expensive SATA SSD for a given capacity, won't make a difference and you would still get the same performance results. That is why my PS3 and PS4 is fitted with the cheapest 1TB SATA SSD I could possibly find, even if they came from some cheap crappy Chinese company.
@@KillRei not all SSDs are built the same. I've found that the controller and cache inside the SSDs makes a huge a difference.
@@omegawii Partially true, but another big difference that can effect performance would be the interface the SSD is connected to.
Regardless, no modern SATA SSD would be any slower than an HDD.
i have ssd on my fat 60 gb with ssd 60gb sandisk , and doA5 have almost no loading time at all maybe 3 or 4 sec between fight , u can't even move camera now , bcuz it's too fast , some game are already optimised for ps3 and u wont have any performance , specialy game who not have install mid gen game era (' 2006 from 2012 ) wont have install , or partial install , upgrade ssd work well for last game who have semi install from 2012 to 2017 game
Well you need the super slim to use more of ssd full potential
not much, considering the read speed of a sata ssd is around 10x than a sata hdd, these time differences are miniscule, 60 secs loading time on a HDD should be sub 10 secs on SSD... and it is not
cuz ps3 has sata1!
Nice Video
So NOT insert a SSD into a PS3! It’s true that it’s minimal faster then a traditional hard drive, but the PS3 doesn’t have the TRIM command, which is absolutely required if you don’t want your SSD to die.
Also the hard drive interface of the PS3 throttle the speed of a SSD, so it’s not worthy anyway.
An better solution for older systems like the PS3 would be a hybrid solution like an SSHD
AWESOME ...!!!
Where gone over 100gb after installation 1tb ssd on ps3?
1024gb -> 830gb ?
I have updated my console with a 1tb hhd but the games cutscenes are glitching! Game runs perfect just cutscenes!! Do you think it's the new hhd and changing to a ssd would fix the issue?