early days, went through seeing all of the amazing power through the decades, and each time "new" power came along, people got excited, but each time, it faded away, because it ended up losing character, and became an unexpressive gymnastics show. That's why breaking died out in the media in the 80's if you remember in the U.S. The only thing that ALWAYS kept bboying alive, true, and going,
Darkness kills man! He's mostly known for his power but he also has alot of style and here he topped zulu in their own game at the same time with hitting the beats & bboying(attitude,poses..) respect for zulu tho for keeping it raw & original!
originallity, freshness, clean execution of the steps and moves, with one word: dancing- now we are talking. thanks for this one gshum89, some people don't have the slightest idea of how hard it is to execute styles perfectly... Yeah, it is true that with powermove one can chrash, however with styles one can fuck up his set quickly, even faster than crashing by doing power... Respect to the powermovers, however give some respect back to the stylers... it is all about dancing
They aren't judging on only one factor, they are judging who is able to put everything including "new" things, in the flow of foundation the best. That's why it's foundation. You build a house with fancy looks, but no foundation under it, it crumbles. But have a strong foundation, and on top of that, you add the "new" and extra decorative elements, this is what gives an overall stronger, longer lasting house.
was the understanding of foundation, and expressing one's character with the song and break. So now again, we have a rise of "oh look, new power, so futuristic," but heads already went through this in the 90's. If people just start looking at it as "oh big moves" and not a dance, like they did in the 80's, they will consider it a passing circus phase, and not as a real dance. It's because they saw what happened from then to now, this whole
also... based on the definition of foundation you mention... i wanna know what's ur opinion of the battle between Born and Lil Bob in For Da Next Level.
airtracks (done in the 90's), hollowbacks, elbow freezes and hops, stuff in the late 90's and early 2000. And there's a difference between adding elements on top of foundation, and just making an entirely new dance and rhythm without any foundation. That would be creating a new dance, whereas Gamblers claim to be doing the bboying dance, big difference.
true, gamblers did foundation and hit beats, but not as much in detail. In the music you hear the basic 8 count. But behind that, there's the faster drum, horn sections, other things, that MZK hits in every little part, and the average person can't recognize that usually.
Alien Ness invented sweep swipes, and the elbow 90. Darkness has crazy tricks, but weak foundation and flow. He doesn't put it on flow, he just jumps and dives in to moves right after the other.
no, Evolution 3 is a break battle but this dance, b-boying, is still a dance, its not about the moves only, its about the MUSIC, rockin that beat, hitting those beats as intricately and as many as possible creatively while mainting the foundation of the dance all your beloved powermovers do are airmoves
Zulu was told to back up often, so the MC definitely wasn't biased. They did hog the floor, though. But Gambler interrupted a couple of times in the second half, so it evens out a little. Those of you saying that Gambler missed beats must be deaf AND blind. Most of the cheers Gambler got were from hitting beats. Zulu, on the other hand, were scuffing up the floor and missing the hits. Gambler also got the crowd chanting more often--that usually means that beats are being hit! GASP!
Like I stated, crews like Rivers, they do ALL of the big power and tricks, but they are appreciated by even the old school, because they do all of it in the flow of foundation. Look at Darkness, he does big moves, but not in the flow of foundation. Instead, he does big moves and will use some foundation as fillers just to jump in to his next move.
Cyphers don't make you a better dancer, though. It helps you understand the culture, the music and the feel of bboying, but becoming a better dancer is an individual endeavor. And being the better dancer is what bboying is all about.
Kamel is in MZK and in the FSS10 battle, and Kamel is one of the guys who created and influenced most of the blow ups you see asian bboys do today. Machine is a blow up bboy, but uses it in foundation flow, and he's in MZK. They don't say blowups are nothing, but they stress that you use blowups and things, in the flow of foundation.
Bruse Lee, Laser, etc, foundation is not their foundation, instead, it's just something they'll do in a little part of their set, rather than building on it. Born, Katsu, other bboys worldwide including Asia, were recruited in to MZK, even though they do the new stuff. That's because they build everything they do, on foundation.
"a BREAKDANCER is probably have no style or originality,but they probably have some real incredible dynamic shit that people cant do because they practice alot... and a BBOY aint goin really care about a dynamic move they care about A DYNAMIC STYLE." bboy k-mel Boogie bratz/Zulu kings
god everytime i see a bboy vid, there is always a lecture about old school and new school, style and power. Just watch the vid, enjoy it and admire it. Dance and then think, such logical order.
Well, who's the better judge, "old school" guys who created most of what bboys do today, and knew the guys who created bboys in the 70's? Or guys who don't know the creators of bboying, some not even born when bboying was created?
I think Poe One said that, not Crazy Legs. Where hip hop came from, in the Bronx, even Crazy Legs said they would try to shake up and scare their opponent as strategy.
not entirely, it is also about having fun and just party, a lot of people tend to forget that and than just sit in the corners when the others are dancing in the cyphers...
Try and listen to the background drum, not the basic eight count drum. The faster paced "dun dun dun dun" in the back of the music. That's what MZK was riding, rather than just following the basic eight count, because breaking came from riding the break, which is the fast and crazy drum loop breakdown, thus "break" boying.
I would say that both of the crews are really dope- gamblerz with their power and zulus with their style. And if one takes a closer look- zulus also do power and gamblerz also do footwork... Besides, zulus are bboys and gamblerz are breakdancers(take a look at dyzee's definiton of bboyint and breakdancing). I think that evo3 was a bboy event and that's why I think that zulu's won.
There are plenty of battles that are more legendary in hip hop history, that FSS10 battle is not the most talked about of all time. Gamblers is crazy with their moves, MZK has better movement and doing things to take apart the music in every detail, and riding the break. I heard that Gamblers did well, but FSS10 was a
styles hard too yo. hittin beats, getting foundation, bringing your soul out. takes hella lot of practice to discover it. i aint gonna lie both r hard shit but i think power is physically hard, and style is mentally hard. jus my opinion.
Zulu throws mad attitude to compensate the lack of skills against Gamblerz. Its obvious.. its their ego taking over the stage.. we all know it, lets not lie to ourselves :)
why breaking died out as a passing phase. So learn the history, you know, these old school guys have been their from the early days, they know what they're doing, they're the only reason why it stayed alive even when everyone thought it was so old and so an "80's" thing.
yeap. That's y i dont like ppl saying power is so much harder than style. I think having both power and style is the hardest. PPl like bboy so and noodle. Freaking crazy.
That doesn't make sense, because Alien Ness, invented some power moves, like sweep swipes, and elbow 90's. Machine in MZK, his style is being a blowup bboy. Kamel in MZK, he created the majority of freezes bboys like Hong10 do today. Hollowbacks, inverts, he did a lot of them first. They don't say blowups are nothing, but that you do those in the flow and basis of foundation.
the end isnt known for killing beats. He's more like... how the crap did he do that. Crazy bboy though, but honestly though if ur good at airflares like the end, i'm sure it's not hard for him to vary his airflares. It only seems hard because none of us can airflare lol.
" a Breakdancer is probably have no style or originality, but they probably have some real incredible dynamic shit that people cant do because they practice a lot.. and a BBOY aint goin really care about a dynamic move they care a bout dynamic syle" the difference between a bboy and a breakdancer. bboy k-mel boogie bratz/zulu kings said that shit..
hm, I don't quite agree with you, but on the other hand, you have a point there... What I actually wanted to say is that gamblerz have some people in their crew that only do moves and don't dance-at least not in a battle... whereas all of the zulus concentrate much more on the music and react to it... Sorry if I insulted someone with my post- was just my opinion
New school is not ignored. Rivers crew has strong foundation along with all of the new school moves. Gamblers is different, they have weak foundation, and only the power. Now don't get me wrong, in FSS10 2007, I've seen Gamblers get stronger in foundation, but this clip is not like that one.
explosion of "new" power, is not new, it's just the repetition of what already happened before, but lots of the new school doesn't know about that history that happened. And if you don't know your history, it's bound to repeat itself. In Korea, where I've been living since 2005, breaking exploded in the mainstream around 2006. Then they started making Korean dramas
so what if they created most of what bboys do today?. They did their part in the past and today more new elements have been added by younger generations of bboys. They gotta respect the new school just like we respect the old school. They can't be just ignoring all the new stuffs.
Gamblers doesn't really have foundation, they just do foundation moves, there's a difference. Foundation is not just some footwork, or a sweep, it's a mindset and putting the most character in to the way you do those foundational moves. Gamblers for the most part, they do foundational moves, without the mindset and ideology behind the movements, and only one who truly understands foundation, knows this. I've seen you post comments before, and you don't know your hip
im confused wats the difference between mighty zulu kings and zulu kings and is born in it cuz i dont think i see him here and btw this was a sik battle
I understand where you're coming from. A lot of great bboys are in MZK--but they just didn't show up for this battle, it seems. It's not fair to say MZK sucks based on this battle alone, but you have to admit, this one wasn't even close.
Not our fault Gambler is better. Saying Zulu didn't crash and Gambler did is not a fair comparison: that's like saying; that guy doesn't crash his 6-step, but that guy crashed his airflare. There is rarely any powermoves in a cypher, that is probably why you like style so much. Going to cypher doesn't teach you everything.
and besides that, cyphers arent even suppose to be rude and everyone being assholes to eachother. It should be a time to dance, have fun, try out new stuff, and get noticed, meet more bboys. The cyphers i go to, most everyone gives props and is supportive. Maybey thats just the West Coast tho, pherhaps other parts of the country have forgotten about hip hop, which is "peace, love, and happiness under the oness of god" -crazy legs
I agree. It teaches you a lot about the CULTURE. But just going to cyphers doesn't make you a better dancer. You see what I'm saying? Going to cyphers is good for exposure, but it doesn't teach you all there is to know about bboying. For example, my point about powermoves. You rarely see powermoves in a cypher, and you definitely won't learn them just from being there.
style is not easy. That's why there's only a few outstanding like Bboy Born. I know waht you mean bout being easy, but It's hard to make it look that good, but youre lucky Gamblers huh? I got to talk with Rivers a bit thats all and Last for One. This year its Maximum =)
people that present themselves as bboys on the internet however don't practice a lot or have even never been to a practice,nor jam, nor battle but still post the comments as if they really knew what bboying is about
two day event, and I heard that Gamblers repeated their sets from day one, on to day two. Overall though, from what I know of MZK, they are better bboys, and Gamblers are better at being tricksters. They have insane tricks, but as for being a break boy (riding the break), MZK does that better.
i dont know what the hell you guys are talking about gambler with power because i saw none of them doing it except bruce lee but he was hitting beats with his top rocks and darkness but he brought hella originality and all the other bboys from gambler were hitting hella beats especially noodle
gshum, I have never called anyone e-boy, I just defined the expression... and I also think that cyphers are the true essence of bboying... it is about fun and dancing and not about some "hey I can do harder shit than you can". the actual question is, can you dance better???
Maybe i'm misunderstand here but... are you saying that gamblers are creating a new dance and not bboying? If yes... i dont think so dude. MZK have stronger foundation TRUE... and Gamblers also have foundation but just not was strong as MZK but they have power, which is considered to be another element (which according to you were all invented in 80s). Wouldn't you say Gamblers are more well rounded?
ur not really dancing if u do power all day. There's a reason why footwork and top rock is called foundation. Foundation is what you need. Power supplements foundation and makes everything more dynamic. Honestly though, if you have a beat, and you're doing windmills and flares all day, it just seems like tricks to me. U need flava and foundation then u add the power. Thats just my opinion
ye but he said : its only a handstand when he's wrong. Its a suicide handstand which as easy as a simple handstand. Im just saying they talk alot when they battle but i guess its only how they battle.
yup... MZK may be better in riding the break. That doesn't mean MZK should win cause Gamblers also have something that MZK dont have. AGAIN... new school ignored. And gamblers actualy hit the beat with power eventhough there has been few crashes.
early days, went through seeing all of the amazing power through the decades, and each time "new" power came along, people got excited, but each time, it faded away, because it ended up losing character, and became an unexpressive gymnastics show. That's why breaking died out in the media in the 80's if you remember in the U.S. The only thing that ALWAYS kept bboying alive, true, and going,
Darkness kills man! He's mostly known for his power but he also has alot of style and here he topped zulu in their own game at the same time with hitting the beats & bboying(attitude,poses..) respect for zulu tho for keeping it raw & original!
originallity, freshness, clean execution of the steps and moves, with one word: dancing- now we are talking. thanks for this one gshum89, some people don't have the slightest idea of how hard it is to execute styles perfectly... Yeah, it is true that with powermove one can chrash, however with styles one can fuck up his set quickly, even faster than crashing by doing power... Respect to the powermovers, however give some respect back to the stylers... it is all about dancing
They aren't judging on only one factor, they are judging who is able to put everything including "new" things, in the flow of foundation the best. That's why it's foundation. You build a house with fancy looks, but no foundation under it, it crumbles. But have a strong foundation, and on top of that, you add the "new" and extra decorative elements, this is what gives an overall stronger, longer lasting house.
was the understanding of foundation, and expressing one's character with the song and break. So now again, we have a rise of "oh look, new power, so futuristic," but heads already went through this in the 90's. If people just start looking at it as "oh big moves" and not a dance, like they did in the 80's, they will consider it a passing circus phase, and not as a real dance. It's because they saw what happened from then to now, this whole
True, true. I just came back from an 8-hour session, so I have no choice but to agree. Haha.
also... based on the definition of foundation you mention... i wanna know what's ur opinion of the battle between Born and Lil Bob in For Da Next Level.
airtracks (done in the 90's), hollowbacks, elbow freezes and hops, stuff in the late 90's and early 2000.
And there's a difference between adding elements on top of foundation, and just making an entirely new dance and rhythm without any foundation. That would be creating a new dance, whereas Gamblers claim to be doing the bboying dance, big difference.
Gambler' ve'got a very monster style !
Charlie Shin, and Johnjay, are not old school, but they know the history, so they know why breaking died out as a passing phase.
true, gamblers did foundation and hit beats, but not as much in detail. In the music you hear the basic 8 count. But behind that, there's the faster drum, horn sections, other things, that MZK hits in every little part, and the average person can't recognize that usually.
The foundation of any dance is dancing to the music. Before six step before indian step, you gotta be hittin the fuckin beat. Gamblers do that.
lol seriously, it was like total chaos in there
Alien Ness invented sweep swipes, and the elbow 90.
Darkness has crazy tricks, but weak foundation and flow. He doesn't put it on flow, he just jumps and dives in to moves right after the other.
no, Evolution 3 is a break battle
but this dance, b-boying, is still a dance, its not about the moves only, its about the MUSIC, rockin that beat, hitting those beats as intricately and as many as possible creatively while mainting the foundation of the dance
all your beloved powermovers do are airmoves
Look at Machine, all of his moves are almost all blowups, but he makes his foundation his...foundation first, that's why it's foundation.
Zulu was told to back up often, so the MC definitely wasn't biased.
They did hog the floor, though. But Gambler interrupted a couple of times in the second half, so it evens out a little.
Those of you saying that Gambler missed beats must be deaf AND blind. Most of the cheers Gambler got were from hitting beats. Zulu, on the other hand, were scuffing up the floor and missing the hits. Gambler also got the crowd chanting more often--that usually means that beats are being hit! GASP!
u know where i can find it????? songs dope!
Like I stated, crews like Rivers, they do ALL of the big power and tricks, but they are appreciated by even the old school, because they do all of it in the flow of foundation. Look at Darkness, he does big moves, but not in the flow of foundation. Instead, he does big moves and will use some foundation as fillers just to jump in to his next move.
Cyphers don't make you a better dancer, though.
It helps you understand the culture, the music and the feel of bboying, but becoming a better dancer is an individual endeavor.
And being the better dancer is what bboying is all about.
classsic eboy ladies and gents lmao
shows wat u really know wat u know about the dance
Kamel is in MZK and in the FSS10 battle, and Kamel is one of the guys who created and influenced most of the blow ups you see asian bboys do today. Machine is a blow up bboy, but uses it in foundation flow, and he's in MZK. They don't say blowups are nothing, but they stress that you use blowups and things, in the flow of foundation.
lots of attitude from zulu but i didnt see much from them, gamblers killed it on the technical level and the musicality.
u got this at dailymotion too eh? lol
Agreed Cypress.
What's the secong song called? with "sunshine" in it o.o
Bruse Lee, Laser, etc, foundation is not their foundation, instead, it's just something they'll do in a little part of their set, rather than building on it.
Born, Katsu, other bboys worldwide including Asia, were recruited in to MZK, even though they do the new stuff. That's because they build everything they do, on foundation.
this was only a 2yrs ago. they were sick here but if u look at them now some of the members improved and some started to go worst
"a BREAKDANCER is probably have no style or originality,but they probably have some real incredible dynamic shit that people cant do because they practice alot... and a BBOY aint goin really care about a dynamic move they care about A DYNAMIC STYLE."
bboy k-mel Boogie bratz/Zulu kings
god everytime i see a bboy vid, there is always a lecture about old school and new school, style and power. Just watch the vid, enjoy it and admire it. Dance and then think, such logical order.
Well, who's the better judge, "old school" guys who created most of what bboys do today, and knew the guys who created bboys in the 70's? Or guys who don't know the creators of bboying, some not even born when bboying was created?
I think Poe One said that, not Crazy Legs.
Where hip hop came from, in the Bronx, even Crazy Legs said they would try to shake up and scare their opponent as strategy.
not entirely, it is also about having fun and just party, a lot of people tend to forget that and than just sit in the corners when the others are dancing in the cyphers...
ma mistake dude, sorry bout that lol i need to get me some glasses haha
Try and listen to the background drum, not the basic eight count drum. The faster paced "dun dun dun dun" in the back of the music. That's what MZK was riding, rather than just following the basic eight count, because breaking came from riding the break, which is the fast and crazy drum loop breakdown, thus "break" boying.
I would say that both of the crews are really dope- gamblerz with their power and zulus with their style. And if one takes a closer look- zulus also do power and gamblerz also do footwork... Besides, zulus are bboys and gamblerz are breakdancers(take a look at dyzee's definiton of bboyint and breakdancing). I think that evo3 was a bboy event and that's why I think that zulu's won.
haha darkness looks funny with his shirt on. I didnt recognize him
coo thanks
I agree with you.I see Bboying as the same view as you
wats cypher is it like a bboy tournament?
There are plenty of battles that are more legendary in hip hop history, that FSS10 battle is not the most talked about of all time.
Gamblers is crazy with their moves, MZK has better movement and doing things to take apart the music in every detail, and riding the break.
I heard that Gamblers did well, but FSS10 was a
styles hard too yo. hittin beats, getting foundation, bringing your soul out. takes hella lot of practice to discover it.
i aint gonna lie both r hard shit but i think power is physically hard, and style is mentally hard. jus my opinion.
Zulu throws mad attitude to compensate the lack of skills against Gamblerz. Its obvious.. its their ego taking over the stage.. we all know it, lets not lie to ourselves :)
exactly where did he fall on his face? The only messup was his somewhat shaky landing from the flip... and that wasnt even that bad..
nah..not long..i basically remembered it,,it meant ALOT to me...
aye whats the first song called
i would give it to gamblers. both were hot but gamblers brought it.
why breaking died out as a passing phase.
So learn the history, you know, these old school guys have been their from the early days, they know what they're doing, they're the only reason why it stayed alive even when everyone thought it was so old and so an "80's" thing.
yeap. That's y i dont like ppl saying power is so much harder than style. I think having both power and style is the hardest. PPl like bboy so and noodle. Freaking crazy.
Is Name the Second Sound??
That doesn't make sense, because Alien Ness, invented some power moves, like sweep swipes, and elbow 90's. Machine in MZK, his style is being a blowup bboy. Kamel in MZK, he created the majority of freezes bboys like Hong10 do today. Hollowbacks, inverts, he did a lot of them first.
They don't say blowups are nothing, but that you do those in the flow and basis of foundation.
Born should take his floorgangz crew and battle MZK. Wanna see what kind of excuse they make again to make MZK win.
wats the sunshine song called
the end isnt known for killing beats. He's more like... how the crap did he do that. Crazy bboy though, but honestly though if ur good at airflares like the end, i'm sure it's not hard for him to vary his airflares. It only seems hard because none of us can airflare lol.
in this part hes on the farside, wearing a mzk baseball jersey and a black hoodie/sweater
he comes in on the second part of this battle, 2:01
" a Breakdancer is probably have no style or originality, but they probably have some real incredible dynamic shit that people cant do because they practice a lot..
and a BBOY aint goin really care about a dynamic move they care a bout dynamic syle"
the difference between a bboy and a breakdancer.
bboy k-mel boogie bratz/zulu kings
said that shit..
nebody knoe the last song?
didnt understand what u said but its cool
hm, I don't quite agree with you, but on the other hand, you have a point there... What I actually wanted to say is that gamblerz have some people in their crew that only do moves and don't dance-at least not in a battle... whereas all of the zulus concentrate much more on the music and react to it... Sorry if I insulted someone with my post- was just my opinion
does anyone know the song started at 1.16????????
You're saying Taisuke isn't good at power?
New school is not ignored. Rivers crew has strong foundation along with all of the new school moves.
Gamblers is different, they have weak foundation, and only the power. Now don't get me wrong, in FSS10 2007, I've seen Gamblers get stronger in foundation, but this clip is not like that one.
i can't believe somebody would want to F with darkness...i mean darkness would and probably tear the other bboy
explosion of "new" power, is not new, it's just the repetition of what already happened before, but lots of the new school doesn't know about that history that happened. And if you don't know your history, it's bound to repeat itself.
In Korea, where I've been living since 2005, breaking exploded in the mainstream around 2006. Then they started making Korean dramas
so what if they created most of what bboys do today?. They did their part in the past and today more new elements have been added by younger generations of bboys. They gotta respect the new school just like we respect the old school. They can't be just ignoring all the new stuffs.
That's almost like saying freezes are meaningless. >_>
haha darkness badass!!!
hype battle. As much as I like mzk i thought gamblers took that.
was that milky at 4:13?
i love seeing zulu usa get roasted cuz they dont even have much considering their cockyness.
what happened to b boy still he was so sick b4 now he lost his slik footwork
Gamblers doesn't really have foundation, they just do foundation moves, there's a difference. Foundation is not just some footwork, or a sweep, it's a mindset and putting the most character in to the way you do those foundational moves. Gamblers for the most part, they do foundational moves, without the mindset and ideology behind the movements, and only one who truly understands foundation, knows this. I've seen you post comments before, and you don't know your hip
thx
im confused
wats the difference between mighty zulu kings
and zulu kings
and is born in it
cuz i dont think i see him here
and btw this was a sik battle
let the sunshine!
first song??
gamblerz rocked that shit.....lol
I understand where you're coming from. A lot of great bboys are in MZK--but they just didn't show up for this battle, it seems. It's not fair to say MZK sucks based on this battle alone, but you have to admit, this one wasn't even close.
Not our fault Gambler is better. Saying Zulu didn't crash and Gambler did is not a fair comparison: that's like saying; that guy doesn't crash his 6-step, but that guy crashed his airflare. There is rarely any powermoves in a cypher, that is probably why you like style so much. Going to cypher doesn't teach you everything.
I personally don't like his style, but he's pretty good, he got alot better but he's pretty sloppy and messes up pretty often.
and besides that, cyphers arent even suppose to be rude and everyone being assholes to eachother. It should be a time to dance, have fun, try out new stuff, and get noticed, meet more bboys. The cyphers i go to, most everyone gives props and is supportive. Maybey thats just the West Coast tho, pherhaps other parts of the country have forgotten about hip hop, which is "peace, love, and happiness under the oness of god" -crazy legs
I agree. It teaches you a lot about the CULTURE. But just going to cyphers doesn't make you a better dancer. You see what I'm saying? Going to cyphers is good for exposure, but it doesn't teach you all there is to know about bboying. For example, my point about powermoves. You rarely see powermoves in a cypher, and you definitely won't learn them just from being there.
just wana add lil comment to those powermove haterz..
flying buddha got champion in 2010 ukchampionship
style is not easy. That's why there's only a few outstanding like Bboy Born. I know waht you mean bout being easy, but It's hard to make it look that good, but youre lucky Gamblers huh? I got to talk with Rivers a bit thats all and Last for One. This year its Maximum =)
true...
people that present themselves as bboys on the internet however don't practice a lot or have even never been to a practice,nor jam, nor battle but still post the comments as if they really knew what bboying is about
two day event, and I heard that Gamblers repeated their sets from day one, on to day two. Overall though, from what I know of MZK, they are better bboys, and Gamblers are better at being tricksters.
They have insane tricks, but as for being a break boy (riding the break), MZK does that better.
let the sunshine in by aquarius.
thats how u battle though. u go in cocky and thats how u win. sides i htink it makes it interesting lol
didnt he title it wrong? this is zulu kings not "mighty" zulu kings, mighty is international.
i dont know what the hell you guys are talking about gambler with power because i saw none of them doing it except bruce lee but he was hitting beats with his top rocks and darkness but he brought hella originality and all the other bboys from gambler were hitting hella beats especially noodle
Someone tell me whats an Eboy?
gshum, I have never called anyone e-boy, I just defined the expression... and I also think that cyphers are the true essence of bboying... it is about fun and dancing and not about some "hey I can do harder shit than you can". the actual question is, can you dance better???
Maybe i'm misunderstand here but... are you saying that gamblers are creating a new dance and not bboying? If yes... i dont think so dude. MZK have stronger foundation TRUE... and Gamblers also have foundation but just not was strong as MZK but they have power, which is considered to be another element (which according to you were all invented in 80s). Wouldn't you say Gamblers are more well rounded?
whats the beat at 2:50 ??????
ur not really dancing if u do power all day. There's a reason why footwork and top rock is called foundation. Foundation is what you need. Power supplements foundation and makes everything more dynamic. Honestly though, if you have a beat, and you're doing windmills and flares all day, it just seems like tricks to me. U need flava and foundation then u add the power. Thats just my opinion
because of Noodle alone Gamblers should have won. nah i'm just kidding. but he was dope.
ye but he said : its only a handstand when he's wrong. Its a suicide handstand which as easy as a simple handstand. Im just saying they talk alot when they battle but i guess its only how they battle.
yup... MZK may be better in riding the break. That doesn't mean MZK should win cause Gamblers also have something that MZK dont have. AGAIN... new school ignored. And gamblers actualy hit the beat with power eventhough there has been few crashes.
never ever gambler lost never