It's really hard to get video of flipping a fully loaded gear bats. If you look back at earlier episodes you'll find we talked about flipping gear boats previously. I also have a lecture about flipping gear rafts in our online course.
I guide in Massachusetts and Vermont, we learn to flip by sticking our paddle under the perimeter rope on the boat and using that for leverage / pulling. Works every time, none of us have ever used or carried a flip line that I'm aware of. We guide 13 ft rafts.
Yes I do that sometimes too. It works well with smaller rafts but requires that you hold on to your paddle which sometimes you can't control on violent flips. The nice thing about "flip line" is that it can also be used as an anchor on a tree or the raft.
Flipping with a paddle only really works on small boats or on boats rolling through waves. It also has the disadvantage that the T-grip can easily slide off the rope - bad news in an emergency. The IRF stipulate that a flip line is used and attached to the rope or D-ring anchor with a carabiner and the carabiner gate has to face out from the boat. IRF guide, instructor and accessor based in Austria. We do our tests on a strong eddy-line (not required for IRF standards) and you are not allowed to get on at the ends of the boat.
One thing I've noticed in all these recent 'flip test' videos is that every time someone unzips their PFD to get the flip line out they fail to zip it back up. Anything that's in that open pocket is more likely to fall out during all the flipping/remounting
I would love a video on running a rapid with lateral waves. asside from avoiding a lateral wave, do you pull the nose away from the lateral? do you try to face the lateral?
We've done some videos on that in the past and will try to do something in the future. We teach to generally hit lateral waves straight on in our courses.
@@GearGarageTV well my comment was mostly joking, but no, we dont really have access to pools. I know local paddling clubs here in Colorado have been able to get pool time for roll practice, but it has been difficult due to COVID. Funny enough, my next river day will likely be in your neck of the woods, as I had planned a trip to visit family in Brookings to coincide with BoatSmith. Although I understand it has been cancelled this year.
Cool video, thanks. Can you do a video on a fully loaded boat?
It's really hard to get video of flipping a fully loaded gear bats. If you look back at earlier episodes you'll find we talked about flipping gear boats previously. I also have a lecture about flipping gear rafts in our online course.
@@GearGarageTV Thanks, is anyone doing in person raft safety classes in early 21 ?
@@blastosist I’m not sure. Our first courses are in March.
@@blastosist Sierra Rescue is also starting in March for swiftwater rescue. sierrarescue.com/course-info/river-rescue-certification/
Thanks! Nice content!
I guide in Massachusetts and Vermont, we learn to flip by sticking our paddle under the perimeter rope on the boat and using that for leverage / pulling. Works every time, none of us have ever used or carried a flip line that I'm aware of. We guide 13 ft rafts.
Yes I do that sometimes too. It works well with smaller rafts but requires that you hold on to your paddle which sometimes you can't control on violent flips. The nice thing about "flip line" is that it can also be used as an anchor on a tree or the raft.
Flipping with a paddle only really works on small boats or on boats rolling through waves. It also has the disadvantage that the T-grip can easily slide off the rope - bad news in an emergency. The IRF stipulate that a flip line is used and attached to the rope or D-ring anchor with a carabiner and the carabiner gate has to face out from the boat. IRF guide, instructor and accessor based in Austria. We do our tests on a strong eddy-line (not required for IRF standards) and you are not allowed to get on at the ends of the boat.
One thing I've noticed in all these recent 'flip test' videos is that every time someone unzips their PFD to get the flip line out they fail to zip it back up. Anything that's in that open pocket is more likely to fall out during all the flipping/remounting
I would love a video on running a rapid with lateral waves. asside from avoiding a lateral wave, do you pull the nose away from the lateral? do you try to face the lateral?
We've done some videos on that in the past and will try to do something in the future. We teach to generally hit lateral waves straight on in our courses.
My lake is frozen over. Can I do it on ice. Lol
Tough. Boat reentry three times is tough.
i dasiy my flip line all i do grab my caribiner and pull
Dam only second
Lol, contest is biased against people near ice-bound rivers!
Do you have swimming pools?
@@GearGarageTV well my comment was mostly joking, but no, we dont really have access to pools. I know local paddling clubs here in Colorado have been able to get pool time for roll practice, but it has been difficult due to COVID. Funny enough, my next river day will likely be in your neck of the woods, as I had planned a trip to visit family in Brookings to coincide with BoatSmith. Although I understand it has been cancelled this year.
@@Jasongnc Awesome. Our main office is in Hood River, Oregon about 6 hours from Brookings.
@@GearGarageTV ah. I thought you were in Grant's pass for some reason. So maybe I wont quite be in your "neck of the woods" lol.