Why Starbucks, Apple And Google Are Unionizing Now For The First Time
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2022
- Since December, workers have led a surge of unionization unlike anything this country has seen since the Great Depression. It’s happening at arduous workplaces like one Amazon warehouse in New York, but it’s also hitting an entirely new sector: retail and big tech. First-ever unions have now formed at more than 200 Starbucks, an Apple store in Maryland, a Google Fiber contractor, REI, Trader Joe’s, Kickstarter, and a gaming division of Microsoft. Here’s why experts say it’s happening now, and why these progressive companies are fighting back against the movements.
Amazon has captured headlines for union drives at its warehouses, including a successful effort on New York's Staten Island. But activity is picking up elsewhere in retail and tech at big companies that are generally viewed as progressive, with no history of labor unions.
As of Wednesday, 209 Starbucks stores have officially voted to unionize according to the National Labor Relations Board. First-ever unions have also formed at an Apple store in Maryland, a Google Fiber contractor, REI, Trader Joe's, Kickstarter and Activision Blizzard.
"There's really no rational world in which the Amazon Labor Union or Starbucks Workers United should win," said John Logan, a labor and employment studies professor at San Francisco State University. "And yet they did, and in the case of Starbucks Workers United, they won over and over and over again."
The wave at Starbucks started in December with a store in Buffalo, New York, where workers voted 19 to eight to join the large, established Workers United union. In one example of the benefits a big union can bring, Workers United has created a $1 million fund to support Starbucks workers who lose wages as a result of organizing activities like striking.
The movement spread fast. Within six weeks, about 20 other stores filed for elections. Eight months later, about 45 elections have failed, and more than 200 of Starbucks' 9,000 U.S. stores have unionized.
"A lot of it is concentrated amongst young workers, sometimes college-educated young workers, often working in sort of low-paying service sector jobs: overworked, underpaid, overeducated workers," Logan said. He said their level of enthusiasm is causing a rush of panic elsewhere in the corporate world.
"The CEOs of all of these big companies are horrified by what happened at Starbucks and they're thinking this is what we want to avoid at all costs," Logan said.
CNBC talked to workers inside the unions forming at Starbucks and Apple about why the movements are gaining traction now.
"It has to do with the pandemic," said Laura Garza, a barista who helped organize her New York City-based Starbucks location, which voted to unionize in April. "It made a lot of workers that continued to work during the pandemic reevaluate what is most important to them. And honestly, it has to go to better pay, livable wage for everybody."
In addition to the pandemic conditions, numerous other factors have collided to create what labor experts call a perfect storm for organizing. The U.S. has seen four decades of stagnant wages. Companies that already had healthy profits before the pandemic made even more money after lockdowns. And there are lots of jobs available without enough applicants to fill them. What's more, the Biden administration is pro-union.
In May, Garza and organizers from Amazon and other companies were invited to the White House to discuss their efforts with Vice President Kamala Harris and Secretary of Labor Marty Walsh.
"They heard some of our stories of fierce anti-union busting, not only from Starbucks but from Amazon," Garza said of her visit to the White House. "Secretary Walsh said in particular that Starbucks should just come to the table with its partners and work together to collaborate."
Starbucks criticized the visit and requested its own White House meeting, which hasn't happened.
Watch this deep dive to learn more.
Chapters:
1:40 Why they organized
5:28 Why Apple and Starbucks fight back
10:24 What unionized workers want
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Why Starbucks, Apple And Google Are Unionizing Now For The First Time
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With decades of stagnant wages, I don’t see why one would vote against unionizing.
They celebrate now, but when the union dues eat into your paycheck with little benefit in return and you see union officials with expensive cars and vacation homes, they'll realize the double-edged sword of unionizing.
I would say even just the climate of employee abuse.
@@blacksquid270 found the amazon bot
I'll give you a couple. They are fear and habit. People need meat and potatoes on the table. With inflation as it stands today there has to be millions of people one or two paychecks away from homelessness. Employers know this and use it to their advantage. If you will notice you rarely hear a lot of bad press about worker cooperatives. With them unionization is not a problem. Why go out on strike against a company of which you are part owner? Whole Foods, Before Amazon purchased it, was a worker co-op. The largest worker cooperative in the world is in Mandragon, Spain. Last I read it was the seventh largest corporation in Spain.
For some strange reason Americans tend to accept things as they are. It is what it is.
"cUz iTs cOmUNizM"
Big corporations wouldn’t union-bust if they weren’t scared of unionization
Union’s slow down the companies ability to be competent against nonunion companies. No company wants a union.
Unions have a long history of destroying companies. Most often leaving the members of the local shop unemployed.
@@windmillacres679 companies have a long history of being greedy
@@paisan8766 Sure they do. It's literally their job.
Look, social security is a joke. You will never have a decent lifestyle living on just social security.
My brother in law lives on social security.
$1,450 a month.
That will just about make a house payment- if it's a very small house.
So what is he supposed to do for food and utilities?
The ONLY way you will survive is to work even after you collect social security OR you save money for retirement.
If you save money then you end up investing in the stock market.
That makes YOU a stockholder. A part owner in some "evil corporation."
The corporations have ONE major responsibility. It make as much money as possible for their stockholders.
As a stockholder the person who gets that money is YOU.
The ONLY WAY to win is to invest in the market. Start investing 5% of your income right now. Every year increase that investment by 1 or 2 % a year up to a MINIMUM of 10%
Better if you can do 20%.
I started at 6%. Now I'm up to 15%
Then one day you'll get a statement from your 401k that says you have $100,000 in the bank. (Trust me, it will feel really weird.)
Keep saving and it will suddenly hit 1 million.
After that life takes on a whole different meaning.
It only takes saving a little bit out of every paycheck.
It's all about saving SOMETING for a very long time.
It honestly works.
@@paisan8766 Invest in a 491k and make those greedy corporations make money for YOU!
Nothing is ever wrong with having a voice and representation at a place that we spent a majority of our days, where we work hard to build these global brands only to be paid pennies yet invest millions to tell us No. Yes, unions require work to ensure they are an actual voice but that’s the work of any democratic practice. Proud of all those who are fighting for and who have joined a Union!
@@khunopie9159 * CEOs unable to cope with unionizing, IMO
@@khunopie9159 Not the case here in germany
so go make ur own company and pay 1000/Hour to your employees......
@@pak3ton How is that at all a valid response to Stephanie's post?
Joint two different unions over the years.
Bad choices both times.
Now I'm much better off without the union holding me back.
I have been in a union for the last 21 years. It definitely makes a difference with benefits and structure.
Union workers are some of the laziest people I've ever seen. It promotes mediocrity.
@@ocampbell1954 every work environment has lazy people. The presence of unions just require management to go through more paperwork to get rid of them.
Never been in a Union for the past 20+ years as an IT professional. More than 10+ years in six figures salary and retiring before 56 with 3 homes. I don't need no union.
@@JM-gg8ko my home and my rental properties are paid off as well. I'm also a six-figure earner. None of that matters. The statement I made about benefits and structure was based on the average worker. Every worker doesn't need a union. Many companies give their employees the compensation and benefits at market rate for their professions in order to keep unions out. Unions only exist because many companies are greedy.
@@JM-gg8ko you have good money, because IT is need many workers today. It's no work for enough professionas. I'm live in Russia and i have many money like you, i'm IT too.
Employees unionize because the company failed to resolve its own grievances.
Simple as that. If you don't want a union and the hassles it can bring, treat your employees proper.
Having worked for a several union jobs before I can say that some work issues remain, but the paycheck and medical is why I stayed with them for years.
Employers have more control over if a company gets unionized than the unions.
@@terrybumpass4799
Source?
Not a source but experience. We had a union drive in our plant. Management was smart enough to address the issues before the vote. They could do that because the union was so slow at getting the required cards to call the vote.@@ligondesenuts769
The apple thing makes perfect sense. Apple advertises the "genius bar" to their customers, implying that geniuses work at apple stores. Who pays a "genius" $20 an hour? Typical corporation, over promising to their customer and under supporting their staff who have to meet those promises made on their behalf. An apple employee is a "genius" in terms of marketing to the customer but just a retail hourly help in terms of negotiating their wages.
@@collenflarity7856 houses and cars were also multiple times cheaper considering inflation.
Idk why someone can seriously not understand the concept of inflation after the last few years.
@@collenflarity7856 ah that's not really a factor considering the majority of America lives in 1000 square feet houses just like we did in the fifties.
The only real major difference is that suburban houses newly constructed post 1980s are generally bigger.
But the majority of individuals in America don't live in those kinds of homes.
Even a house with the same dimensions as one built from the fifties would be significantly more expensive with inflation considered.
Your talking about a multiple time increase.
Housing is 30 times more expensive than the fifties yet the federal minimum wage in the fifties to current only increased by about 10 times.
Also healthcare costs and commodity prices have outpaced wages.
It's just kind of a fact that people were proportionally paid more even the lowest jobs in the 50s
I mean $20USD an hour is pretty good… But still good for them
They are paid well for the skills that the job requires. $20 is good pay for that job. I don't understand why they want a union. It seems more from greed than need.
thw worst to me is that they got employee benefits in other countries, they value their employees more in other countries.
Why? Because the business community and their army of lobbyists have spent the last 40 years beating the working class to a pulp for the benefit of investors and executives. Unions bring balance between labor and management.
I feel the most important aspect of a union is being protected. You have people who’ll go to battle for you. I’ve been fired from a job where my managers had ego’s and were used to pushing employees around.
Most manufacturing jobs have left America because of Unions and those jobs will never go back and in the meantime, Unions have done nothing to stop 85,000 H1B visas from China and India to come in and take the high paying jobs that should be going to Americans.
@@JM-gg8ko common bootlicker L
@@JM-gg8ko manufacturing left the US because the American Worker was forced to compete against people who makes pennies per hour in Mexico and Asia
@@mattkennedy6115 nah the union and demanding more more and more when the economy time hit hard. that why some us manufacture just left. and some just let japanese car come to US.
dont believe me. just look at detroit.
overpowerd union, lemon car. etc etc.
@@cyranova9627 Chevy's board/CEO sabotaged the product ect also not the only company to do so
chevy helped start Toyota and helped import finished car's to the 🇺🇸 without helping it probably would've failed and or just a support supplier for rubber parts aka thing's detroit can't cheaply make as it's not in the tropics
Many people get bogged down in the minutiae of union vs non union but miss the big picture; are we ok with a few people at the top making 7-8 figures per year while the average employee barely makes enough to scrape by?
Somehow employees are the villains for wanting to have more than a studio apartment and subpar medical coverage.
Nah bro. The people who are anti-union are those who benefit from crushing unions. Nobody with half a brain cell would say no to improving your life standards
These are supposed to be transition jobs not forever jobs. This is the beginning of the end for American global dominance.
@@ballen8905 If that was the case there would be no GM's store managers or managers at all because it's transitioning. I mean what you said makes no sense. The stock market would collapse if there was wasn't working bees filling these jobs. And you're starting to see no one wants these jobs now because people like you. They feel like the job is menial and they won't go anywhere in life so now they aren't even filling these jobs. And no business wants a high turnover rate they want reliable people that will stick with the company and eventually get into managing positions. Why do you think companies are offering tuition reimbursement or flat out paying for college if you stay with them through our school? So yea you are very wrong.
@@ballen8905 Arguably, computer repair technicians at companies like Apple are skilled labors that deserve more appropriate pay. Besides, if you don't pay well and don't offer employee protection enough for a transition job, what motivates people to transition from said jobs to ""forever jobs"", whatever that term even means in 2022?
@@tylersouth4310 he probably heard that on FoxNews. Let him be. He’ll always have a job as a career bootlicker
Companies usually become abusive when there is no checks and balances. This isn't about workers doing something wrong when they create a union, it's about management creating an atmosphere that something is wrong with the company that promotes the formation of a union.
My Company conveniently parted ways with anyone considering unionizing. Management roles were placed in a manager organization. Entry level staff was very replaceable at the end of the day.
Of course! The rich are PETRIFIED that the poor will unite against them. 💪😎🤟
Gotta keep the peons and plebs down. Else, the yachts, vacations, exploitation, and corruption will all go bye-bye.
Sorry to hear that. Nobody should be fired for attempting to collectively bargain. What evil scum.
Yep let’s just hire the random crackhead on the street
Which is precisely why unions are so important - to bring balance and fairness to the labour market. Yeah, individual workers might be easily replaceable, but try operating with no entry level workers. Union representation equalizes what is otherwise an unconscionably unjust imbalance of power.
They were able to find people? All I see around here is "help wanted" signs. Even advertisements and announcements over store shop PAs are looking for people
These companies acting like their workers being in a union is the end of the world.
Yet this is the norm in many other countries in the world, where the worker benefits are superior to those commonly found in the USA.
Be surprised how much money these companies make weather in U.S or foreign country they make money and don’t share with there employees
My union was organized in 1891. In IBEW local 595 and union is the way to go
I find it odd that the same people that will call "entry level" workers greedy for fighting for $15 an hour (basically the equivalent of the federal mimimun wage in the late 1960s) will never call $20,000,000 a year executives greedy. Very strange...................
Indeed. They are bootlickers
A CEO runs a company. A cashier hits a few buttons. I'm not opposed to a $15 minium wage employees getting more money for work is what's great about capitalism.
@@mooseoperator27 so what would happen to the company if all those cashiers that just "push buttons" were not there? Would the CEO be pushing all those buttons? What a foolish argument
@@mooseoperator27 Keep bootlicking, CEOs don’t work any harder than you and I. Let alone 400x the average salary harder. The more money I’ve made, the less strenuous the work I’ve actually done.
@LegM... you're exactly correct.
It's a huge fallacy to pretend that any human being works even 200x harder than anyone else. Especially when it all comes down to algorithms, computer code, marketing, etc.
As a german I can tell you that unions are a good thing, even in terms of productivity.
The aspect that is bad for economic growth and entreprenurial freedom is state intervention.
Germany is a great example on how to communicate with employees
Banning child labour and slavery is also bad for entrepreneurial freedom. Business owners run their employee's lives, from their paycheck to what hours they can and can't be forced to work to earn a living
Simple but powerful truth: As soon as a company is publicly traded unionization will be vehemently opposed by management. In management's eyes, any profit that unions require to provide better conditions for employees would be better directed to earnings or stock buybacks or anything else to the benefit of the shareholder at the expense of the employee. Simple but powerful truth.
I have been apart of a union. I only left because I moved. I love the union. It was nothing but good. It felt fair for me.
As a Teamster, I can say that being Union is life changing, I make $27 an hour, the company also puts $7.83 an hour into my Unions pension fund for my retirement, the company also has to put $11.73 an hour into my health plan through my union. My insurance has $0 deductible and I can pretty much go to any doctor or hospital I want. Unionize! You deserve to enjoy the fruits of your labor. #Teamsters #Local222 💪
I make $32/h with a cdl.
@@Q-gf8vb how are your benefits ?
Proud IBEW member. Makes a huge difference. Don't anyone lie to you. Benefits and wages are far better working in a union shop.
Im IBEW too. What local?
They have RECORD PROFITS every single year...
Yet, their fundamental level workers, that produce the MOST value in the company, doesn't get pay raise... HOW?
It's called Management, lol. They got paid first; then, the crumbs went to the workers.
Not every company does this thought.
Investors decide whether or not its enough profit. If they don't produce adequate growth every single quarter then they are forced by the market to cut payroll. Its a perpetual cycle of loss for workers unionized or not.
Fact: if unions sucked, employers would not care.
100% they are scared, as they should be
I worked in the CWA (mentioned in the video) for several years. I know unions were hugely transformative in the 1800s-1900s but some of my CWA coworkers were some of the laziest bunch of people I ever worked with. When I suggested that some of my peers not sleep at their desks or not cut out 15 minutes early because they might get reprimanded for it, their response was usually "what are they gonna do, we're in a union!" Not everyone was like this, of course, but a good 30-40% of the floor I worked on seemed to be like that. I often felt like I was doing most of the heavy listing.
I know that, without unions, it would be just as bad if not worse in the other direction - as it seems to be now in many mega-companies. I just wish there were a happy middle ground.
Should've fired them if they were lazy, Union workers deserve hard working members. Also reform the union without destroying the union in the process
you sound like a teachers pet obnoxious person . who tells people to not nap at their desk when they are tired ? you don’t know what people are going through .
People are no longer slaving for giant companies 🤷🏽♀️
@@pudanielson1 in a union shop it is really hard to fire workers for merely perceived issues like laziness. It takes many instances of policy violations and meetings with the shop steward for "coaching" to give the employee a chance to turn themselves around. Most management teams won't waste the time and effort, instead they'll shift work over to reliable workers. "Let the babies have their bottles; we know who the productive workers are".
Eh, there are lazy NON-unionized workers out there.
Good for them man. I hope they can continue to make strides now that more union groups are being established.
These greedy cry babies fighting for the right to bully their company into paying them far beyond their skills, driving up inflation do NOT deserve praise. I make a lot less than my age group, but I made decisions in my life without a gun to my head. IE quitting school at 16, I always planned to go back but didnt, I also planned to take some college courses, you don't need a grade 12 diploma where I come from, but I never did. Personal responsibility seems to be a foreign concept to many people these days.
They suddenly closed the Starbucks near my work citing safety reasons read in the news they had Unionize a month earlier. This company is evil and I won’t give them my money any more
if big companies valued employees like they didn't their customers it would never happen.
I love when they workers family.
You know that if employees don’t feel valued, they can always look for another job? Unions just create a huge red-tape and corruption in terms of hiring/firing employees.
@@sak_5 you are right, I'm glad we aren't lacking well payed, interesting jobs.
@@ledwysdelgado7304 and if you still don’t find your dream job, you are always welcome to set up your own business, unless you live in North Korea, Cuba or the like.
@@sak_5 how much does it cost to setup a lemonade stand legally 🤔. I would really want to see what would happen if workers would just stop working from all industries, I would really want to see if these fearless leaders will stepup to the plate and still provide products and services.
Unionized jobs last longer & brings a low turnover rate. Also better wages. Otherwise they fire you over the smallest things.
It seems you don’t own a company. Imagine having one in a free market, yet having to go through a huge red-tape when trying to fire someone you consider is not contributing to your company.
Turnover is hugely expensive for companies. Why would a company want to fire somebody for a small thing?
@@BarryPiper ask McDonald's.
@@sak_5 i reference McDonald's.
@@BarryPiper Walmart used to have times when they “needed to clear the house” to save payroll, not sure if they still do this since it was years ago. But they would have management walk out anyone with D-days or tardy records, or whatever reason they can be used to justified. A couple months later the employee can apply for the job again and if they get hired, they’ll start all over again at based pay.
I'm proud of these workers. More of us need to follow their lead.
These CEO's are rich enough, they can afford it.
CEOs are greedy and will not give a dime to help. They just look out for themselves and their bonuses.
As a designer, Macintosh or now Apple always have a place in my heart. Over pass 23 years I grow from love to right down hate the company, it conduct and products. The quality of product and operating system has so much rubbish on them. And now they don’t even treat their employee properly. I rather do my design on pen and paper with water color than buy new iMac from company that so greedy. I still use iPhone I pray there better brand in the future
Unions must exist...otherwise...we're Mexico...and we're "close now".
No American company gives "a rats ass" about its people.. and this is world-wide...not just in America or China.
If you don't run your own affairs...your affairs are "run for you. Period.
Well, here in Mexico we have govt. Subsidized healthcare for workers, public universities and some really strong unions. In that front we are ahead the US, only being hampered by corruption and low budgets.
The corporate class has many methods to stop unionization. Thoughtful planning and perseverance will always win against them so please don't give up. It can change everything on this planet.
Good for you guys!
Thank you Bird
Nurses are next. We definitely need a union nationally. Putting patients at risk giving Nurses more than they can handle. Great job workers
The fact nasty ass Cops have a union but nurses don't is disgusting to me
Could a union for nurses put patients at risk? What if they go on strike and people are dying in hospitals?
I think that some professions, like those in charge of people's health and life, should not have a union.
All power to the workers!
@@Carlos_Alcaraz keep dreaming.
@@el5880 lol keep dreaming. It's already happening. AI are coming next.
@@ocampbell1954 no it hasn’t and it never will.
@@el5880 lol at it hasn't. Your cellphone has AI. Tesla has AI in it's FSD. They're also building robots. What rock are you living under?
@@ocampbell1954 workers built the iPhone. Keep dreaming.
Good job unionizing guys! 🎉😊 best wishes from Canada!
As a proud union member in the airline industry, I’m shocked more people don’t do it. Our union (ALPA) is probably one of the best in the globe.
More people don't do it because often companies have grey area policies that allow them to easily fire people who attempt to unionize. In the US there aren't nearly as many protections for workers as there are in the rest of the world. In Europe for example a company can literally be put under investigation if they fire workers for trying to unionize where as in the US companies are effectively allowed to do it with hardly anyone in our judicial system batting an eye.
Your union is strong and tough. I wish more unions are like yours. I used to be in IAWAW, and the shop steward would just make excuses for management. Now they have worst contracts compared to their unionized and non-unionized counterparts. I hope the new shop steward does a better job.
Quite funny coming from a company valued at almost 3 trillion and with more than 600 billion in liquid cash(apple) but they make gross amounts of money and don't pay much taxes with the idea of paying work which they don't. Also, the most prosperous time in the united states also had the highest percentages of unions. I hope they continue the fight
This is straight up wrong. Apple Paid 18bn in corporate taxes in 2021. apple has 48 Bn of cash and cash equivalents as as of 6/30. no idea where you get those numbers from.
I'm sorry how can google's contracters unionize? Google can just find other contractors.
That is what they HAVE been doing. Now that it is a Union shop they cannot just do that.
thats awesom
I F**kin' love this development!!! Unionize people!
I don't buy apple products or go to Starbucks. However I am for a livable wage. However someone getting 27hr for coffee is crazy stupid.
It would be huge if Unions get donations of those companies shares large enough to have a seat in the BOD. That would be a game changer because Unions can vote C Suites golden compensation packages.
@@Carlos_Alcaraz lol
1:23 hey that the Starbucks Fursuiter?
My union is useless xD. Takes money every week and can't negotiate for anything.
Now let’s talk about the downside of unions
There are some like seniority is valued more than hard work but wages and benefits are far better in a union shop. I worked 20 years non union. It basically sucked. High insurance deductibles, Crappy 401K, and less vacation time. No thanks.
I guess that I have to pay 8 dollars per check hahah but then again we make 64 dollars an hour 😂 and that’s take home.
@@TRONMAGNUM2099 I get a month off paid
I see future cutbacks....
Outsourcing. Yep it is possible. 3rd party... companies, etc.
There is always a way around the union issues...
Look at the past... manufacturing moved to other nations.
That round building is an eyesore
how you are valued is how hard you are to replace. that's why companies i interview now ask what i want to do instead of what i know to do.
I worked in a Union a few years ago. I was hoping to go from Lot Associate to Cashier and busted my ass everyday to show that I was the best person for the job. When a position opened up I expressed my interest to the manager and he said no. He acknowledged that I worked hard and had a good head on my shoulders. However, he stated that tenure takes priority in any promotion opportunity and NOT ability. I then put in my two weeks.
And then what?
@@bazz6490 I went and found a job that would move me up based on how well I worked and not on how long I been employed.
@@ske-pho3049 cool. And what happen to the union you worked for did they regret not promoting you.?
@@bazz6490 probably not, last I heard they still exist doing their thing.
Exactly. You're ALWAYS replaceable. Always. All slaves are. 💪😎🤟
I can guarantee that a united employee representation will be far better than any system where there is none.
Plus governments should make it illegal for employers to have even a voice in anything and should be subjected to the mercy of their employees including their shareholders. Which means the term cutting cost would be outright made illegal without a very strong legitimate argument with at least 10 pages of facts.
On top of that, instead of a centralized target I prefer if each store can independently set their own targets made by the employees as it makes it slightly more enjoyable and gives employees a more lighthearted competitive streak. Also, by allowing employees more power they can actually give suggestions to make businesses more efficient as a lot of things are still either inefficient or require a lot of manual repetition work.
So you want to be a boss one Someone ele money
My union changed my life. They treat me very well
In U.S. unions and management are considered adversarial, in Sweden they are partners who work together.
amazon & starbucks & all these workers deserve to make better money it’s ridiculous how hard they over work these people
Sure, but I would not include Apple retail employees. They are being paid well, at least $20/hr.
5:18
Most Americans want unions they just don't want to go through this scary union busting process
Union busting process = divide and conquer
Unions work but it’s always the squeaky wheel always gets the grease scenario. I found when I was in a union so if you have a minor issues don’t expect any help.
what about employees in CNBC forming Union?
Unions are a "double edged sword". They give great power to the workers, but make things worse in areas that workers are not collectively and overwhelmingly in support of.
Why have unions taken off? Because wages need to rise and employers want to reduce pay to save up for a possible financial storm in the near future. Employers want a "safe egg" that they can distribute to themselves if the storm never comes, but employees don't want to pay for a "safety net" that won't help them if things go wrong with lack of raises.
Problem was is wage never kept with inflation, there supposed to be an average of 2%-3% annual wage increase, majority of jobs that are in bottom 50% lives on minimum wage never saw a meaningful increase, 49% of upper jobs sustained at least 2% increase, 1% saw 100% plus increase.
Unions don't work well in tech manufacturing. I have worked in two tech manufacturing companies, both had a union. I've also worked in non union companies, but in production. You get to use alot more of your skills in non union production than union manufacturing.
I attribute not using the skills to be more because of the union than whether it was production or manufacturing.
It’s all about how a company treats its employees. Unionization is the last resort of an exploited work force. Unionization represents a failure of company management to listen to the concerns of their employees. If all employees truly were greedy and lazy, every company would be unionized.
As a health care worker in a union let me provide an alternative opinion. Unions protect the worst performing workers because they are a lot harder to get rid of. Meanwhile, the hard working competent workers end up picking up the slack of the "dead weight" employees for the rest of their careers. If you're a competent and a hard worker, you're better off without a union in some cases. For example, the best performing employees in tech sector can negotiate their earnings and earn more based on performance. In a union there is no negotiating. You are all graded based on seniority, not merit. This organizational structure inherently demotivates ambitious individuals from going above and beyond (there is no reward), and promotes those who have been with the company the longest (based on seniority not merit or performance). Also, unions often negotiate multi-year contracts where you are Locked in to a wage schedule. When unexpected events happen that push inflation to mutli-decade highs, you don't have the flexibility to renegotiate wages in the middle of a contract. You are stuck until the contract expires. Meanwhile you pay a fortune in union dues and often the union is not as effective as you might think at pushing to improve working conditions due to adding extra organizational complexity and bureaucracy.
From the perspective of the company I can understand why unions are a bad thing and it's not just potential pay increases. Unions are inherently inefficient and a less lean organizational structure. Like I said earlier, over the years the "dead weight" employees stay around, climb the ranks based on seniority and really slow the efficiency and innovation of the organization. It's like a body that cannot "trim the fat". With time, it becomes overweight, lethargic and unhealthy.
"In a union there is no negotiating."
Nice propaganda. Everyone who isn't a bootlicker knows that not all unions are the same, you're only doing the 1% a favor by pretending otherwise.
@@iwiffitthitotonacc4673 I think you mis-understand. there is negotiation. But only between contracts. And then the contract is set for a predetermined amount of time.
@@geryfung The narrative you paint about the “best performing employees” is cute however I’ve watched countless high performing employees get terminated at various Fortune 500 companies I’ve worked at throughout my career simply for the sake of hiring lower waged workers to replace them and cut costs. They can easily sabotage your metrics and make it appear as if you’re not performing then get rid of you and you can’t do nothing about it. Take your propaganda elsewhere people are finally waking up.
@@supadave422 first of all, my opinion is not propaganda. I am simply speaking as a jaded union member. Your point about manipulation and termination is fair. Personally I've never worked in private sector or fortune 500 companies so I certainly can't speak to the pros and cons of that. But I'm simply bring my perspective that the grass isn't necessarily greener on my side of the fence. Unions present their own unique challenges / pros and cons
@@geryfung US shouldn't have unions.
With the average CEO pay over 300x their workers we need Unions now more than ever! Hopefully Amazon is next! 21 years in a Union and I'll never go back to RAT, I'm happy to pay dues which benefit me enormously!
Bravo! Now, that's how to fight back against exploitation.
Congratulations from Sweden! Strong unions mean a strong working class.
That's really wrong ... Have you heard about Detroit ?
Same, Greetings from Germany. Unions are very important for the workers here!
Do you know how poor those European countries are ??
@@sesaba The Detroit auto-industry failed due to lack of demand as the Japanese made better cars, it wasn't due to unions.
@@JY-lg6ee Lmfao Sweden and Germany has a far higher living standard than the U.S. Turn off Fox News and see reality.
The one guy at the beginning is unknowingly 100% correct.
The people who are working at these stores that are unionizing are over educated (and arguably unneedingly educated).
Go to any fast food restaurant you're going to find more cash registers mean by robots than you are people.
Starbucks and Apple is not actually a progressive company's, they are just trying to pander towards a demographic that they believe are willing to overpay for their products.
The only reason these companies have not already in place more of their employees with robots is because their corporate boards have decided the high cost for a human workforce our negligible when you account for the clientele it allows them to pander to.
These employees are simply adding to the numerous reasons to get rid of them.
Also a lot of the Starbucks locations that have closed down and have cited numerous health problems such as drug use in the bathroom. A problem that only occurred because the corporate board decided to pander towards a progressive clientele a few years ago.
I personally no longer go to Starbucks due to their overpriced coffee and the decrease in cleanliness of their stores. Something tells me that the people who want to unionize are not going to be the people who believe their stores will look better if they kick out the homeless people.
People don’t want robots. They don’t even want to talk on the phone when it comes to tech. Most want hands on help with purchases and trouble shooting. Apple couldn’t replace the people in store with “robots” even if they wanted to.
You have a good point, but you’re underestimating the work that these employees do if you think they’re replaceable by robots.
You are correct on the front that a significant portion of these positions are replaceable: taking orders at the drive-thru, accepting payment at the cash register, selling a customer an iPad, etc. However, things like preparing a blended drink, troubleshooting a 2 hour technical problem, handling a warranty claim and convincing a customer to make a purchase cannot fully be replaced by robots. But yes, I do see major restructuring away from brick & mortar within these companies if unions gain more appeal.
Personally, I think this should be a signal for Starbucks to make big company changes and possibly even rebrand, because their prominence in the coffee space is fading (at least I feel like it is as a mid-twenties coffee drinker lol, and I even used to work there in my late teens). I don’t see younger generations finding as much excitement in the brand as mine did. It’s evolved to have a very corporate feel, plus the product is just bad. Apple will be fine though. This may sound crazy, but I can picture Apple entering the ‘place to gather / coffee’ market that Starbucks is in. Their last retail head was pushing for something similar with ‘Today at Apple.’
@@D_Webb not necessarily robots what you do is you call it self-service and it's a luxury.
So you know how you go to the supermarket and you grab a cart so that you can go and pick items off the shelves.
So until Piggly wiggly opened that used to be something the store employees would do for you. Not only did his move reduce the number of employees required but they also sold it as a service as where you could personally choose which vegetables and fruits you buy.
Starbucks could easily do this they only need about one or two people to make the drinks. Even then they figured out how to replace those humans with vending machines in both Italy and Japan.
@@D_Webb
Yes, they do. Whilst not autonomous, self checkout has become the norm. Having an app or program to input your own order is quickly becoming a standard, and a series of machines can do pretty much anything and everything in a Starbucks without the necessity of human intervention. Would you even necessarily be aware that machines did the work; synthetic software voices were quite realistic with some moderate tweaks more than 15 years ago? If you were to hear a relatively generic voice calling out your name whilst your order is sitting on the counter, it's doubtful that you would ever be able to tell how much an actual human was involved in the entire process. Automation has been happening incrementally since the joints originally opened. You are simply unaware of most processes.
Deep fat fried food can nearly go from start to finish these days.
Robots are rarely in humanoid form. There are even full robot bands programmed to play exactly what is heard on an album. Live music will one day be maybe a singer with robots performing with real instruments on-site.
Bravo 💪👏
Solidarity forever
Unions in theory support employees !
Overeducated shouldn't be a thing
All union workers required to use 50% wage to buy a company stocks.
Need workers' union in Amnesty too.
The reason there is way less unions now that in the 50’s and 60’s and beyond is because unions get started with good intentions but they get corrupted, look at Ford and GM, Detroit is a sad example of it. We will see the stores being unionized how they fare in a few years compared to the ones that stay the same. 🤔
Unionize Boeing, and let's see Boeing planes crash all over America and see a Boeing 737 MAX crash in Japan to see Boeing being unionize and see that an unsafe plane is union made.
I really hope all that woke greedy corporations get recked by unions.
What happens to the workers when the union wrecks their company?
They eventually will. Unions are like comm unism. Eventually there is no incentive to be productive and the companies are no longer able to make a profit with all unproductive workers. Unions are also notorious for enriching those in power of the unions and caring very little for the average worker.
One of them hired a union organizer and didn’t know it
Congratulation guys
I mean it makes sense for those big name companies to fight back because they don't want to lose more money. However seeing as how Apple loves to charge $1k for each of their iPhones as well as iMacs/Macbooks, they should in turn offer higher wages, especially seeing as how their market cap is well over $1 trillion. On the flip side, each of these individuals who are fighting to unionize could choose a different career path, especially those at Amazon. However, when you choose to battle with a company who cares more about profit than working with a union company, then you only have yourself to blame for wanting to start the fight in the first place. This is why I choose not to support Starbucks, Apple or Amazon (still trying to find ways to not support Google either).
Working class is waking up
Wages at the minimum wage act is 4 times the rent for one bedroom apartment local commute and this is about 30 dollars an hour in the three largest states California New York and Texas. If you look you would see none of them are paid a living local commute 4 times the rent for one bedroom apartment local.
Why this should not be a surprise...
Just having a union doesnt mean anything, hold off on celebrating until you have a contract lol
👏👏👏👏👏The giant company that really needs a union is Walmart!!👏👏👏👏
How the hell is ANYONE at a Starbucks a "necessary" worker?
The world stops turning is certain people don't get their coffee?
Yeah - that statement cost her 90% of her credibility with me. Starbucks (or frankly any coffee, hot drink, or lunch you don't make at home before leaving for the day) is a luxury item.
How much can coffee cost before people stop buying it?
Be careful, automotive workers unionized, their jobs were outsourced abroad.
With Starbucks, Amazon, Apple and Google, the nature of their jobs are more protected as they can only be done locally - but at the same time, they can be reduced e.g. less retail presence, automation.
in that sense we're lucky automation isn't there yet, if I went to Starbucks and a robot or machine made my coffee charged me $8 for it and it tasted like ass I would fling the coffee at the machine and never buy there again, there is value in human presence
@@oscarmendoza8393 Automation will get there sooner with high labor & material cost. Machine makes the coffee, worker passes it to you, tap your card and your gone. Tastes the same, same price, faster, half the staff. Its all going to happen either way but now probably sooner.
@@lov2cyanaked we're a ways off from that, how many people do you know make complex orders, that need a person and how many of those do humans make mistakes in? plus you're not just talking making the drinks in a cup, you're talking people to refill coffee grounds, load milk and ingredients when they run out, clean, be present when a machine malfunctions, prepare food and even there nothing is guaranteed, people thought self driving cars were here look at home many crashes have happened, all it takes is one mistake, or one accident from an automated service and people don't forget, they can't even get automted reply systems right for the phone
@@oscarmendoza8393 I didn't say no staff would be there, they slowly will start bringing in the automation eliminating whoever they can. Self driving isn't perfected yet thats obvious, (assuming this is tesla) people dont forget the accidents but they have no problems buying whatever they put out either. I remember when quality of things was good & someone helped you, those days are gone. Its self checkout now.
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Now we know why apple won’t even dream about building iPhones in the US, makes sense now
Most countries have unions.
umm… it’s been known major companies, not just Apple, have manufacturing and production facilities in countries that cost less for employee wages and taxes.
They will once everything is automated. Selling iPhones made in the US must cost like 5k $
CNBC employees next to unionize???
union membership cost is a tax write off called a withholding so the members actually save money
If your company is big enough it should be auto union
Small companies wouldn't be able to afford to like mom and pop stores but large companies are pocketing more and more profit while pushing their employees to the wayside
Someone educate me. EXACTLY what does it mean to be unionized
Basically, workers create an organization to represent them in the company they're working in. This might be needed because usually companies are a tyranny where workers have almost no say in the company's policies, especially in wages. A union adds some democracy to the system.
@@davidtitanium22 ok I’m understanding just a little of that. So that means workers have an input in pay, policies, schedules, etc? I’m still a bit confused.
@@Reezy884 very indirectly, the same way you (a voter) have on local politician policy.
@@theeraphatsunthornwit6266 oooh ok I’m starting to understand now
@@Reezy884 just read the article 'trade union' in wikipedia
Here's the thing: is it not easier to have one party to negotiate with than Thousands?
If I ran a company I would rather have to just have to sign 1 pay contract and just give that to the employees than have to negotiate for every employee.
IBEW org. 1891 Im local 595. Glad they’re union brothers and sisters now.
People need to wake up and form a union. Don't ever believe these greedy companies are going to pay you a wage to be able to support your family. It doesn't make sense for a CEO to make millions while paying workers pennies. PRO UNION!
i assume you dont hold stocks?
CEO make millions because they are the one making directions and decisions to give all the employees a future . Without those CEO, there will be no companies and there will be no jobs for workers , Stop attacking those CEO, think about what they have done to all the employees - A job , and A Future
@@jadenpark7943 Pro union here, We can screen shot our portfolios to see who owns more.
@@supadave422 unions are unnatural. they force owners to pay up more for absolutely nothing. Now days workers are already very well treated very well paid . "unions" demand EVEN MORE
@@JY-lg6ee Utter bollocks. CEO’s have no magical value or capabilities. They are ridiculously overpaid because they control where money is allocated in the company; i.e., conflict of interest. Shockingly, in this setup, they (and a few of their crony oligarch buddies in top management) all decide that they should be paid millions if not billions, while the people who do the actual work deserve next to nothing.
$26 BUCKS PER HOUR for low skill no-college-degree Apple worker!?
Doesn't matter.
@@ledwysdelgado7304 what do you mean?
Salary is not solely base on education, supply and demand for that skill set has a big part to to do with Salary. Also, I would l like to enjoy my coffee without being asked for a tip for the workers to feed themselves and maybe loved ones.
@@ledwysdelgado7304 exactly. apple already pays them too much at over $20 per hour. absolute insanity , most college graduates who went thru incredibly tough times to get their degrees fairly makes about $26 or higher and these entitled turds are brazenly asking for same amount!? im angry
@@jadenpark7943 thats not up to me or you, its up to the labor market.
because eventually everything reaches a breaking point and when executives shop for 2nd homes while the workforce struggles S happens
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Record profits plus bailouts and rise in cost of living and salaries that are not keeping up with these cost , yes I am for union ,plus the micromanaging and micro tracking that these companies are employing
record profits is a bad thing because?
@@jadenpark7943 they didn't say profits are bad, they said that while profits are at an all time high, workers don't get their fair share.
@@iliatebenkov473 they dont? they were begging for $15 an hour for years! Now it's way over $17 most jobs , yet the leftist new-Green-Dream skillless activist turds keep on crying. Entitled "Everything should be free" commies
@@jadenpark7943 Rising profits which come from finding better ways to do things and rising productivity are a good thing. Rising profits which come from declining real wages is just robbing Peter to pay Paul - or, more precisely, robbing the people who do the work to pay the people who don’t.
@@JohnnyAmerique u didnt read my comment? we already gave them fair wage. they want more n more , entitledments keep sucking shareholders blood
Workers have a right of unionizing, and employers have a right to fight that.
And anyone supporting the megacorps' fight is a gullible tool. Record profits year over year, yet wages keep being slashed and hours get longer, and enployment stability scarcer.
These corporstions are bo different than feudal nobility. They won't give you good conditions and wages out of kindness.
Of course. But employees have *WAY* less resources, lol! 😂🤣😂
That's why only the RICH can run for offices, political positions, etc. It's literally impossible (meaning: IMPOSSIBLE) for peons and "slaves" to run for office, let alone WIN an election.
That's just how power and riches work. If you control the money, you control EVERYTHING. Rockefellers taught everyone that. 💪😎🤟
Bottom line: if you're poor, you're a nobody. A slave. A shadow. No one will know you exist, and no one will care when you die. It is what it is.
@@Hjernespreng Wages are growing and living conditions are improving. And even if it wasn't the case, they still have every right to do what their want with what they own. Nobody can harm you by doing what they want with what they own. You're mistaking harm with non-providing. You're mistaking something that was taken away from you with what in fact was just not given, and had no obligations to be given.
Nobody works for less than a living local,. The absolute legal minimum wage act is 4 times the rent for one bedroom apartment local commute. The unions used to be twice minimum wage because they were families not children.
We finally realized we have power.
I hope we don't overuse it
Union member numbers have been steadily decreasing in this country because all the manufacturing jobs have been shipped to Mexico, and the ones that still remain here are done by robotics. A car manufacturing plant used to have 2000 employees all Union, now there's 3 to 400 employees and it's all automated.
"Approximately 90% of Mexican production workers in industrial enterprises that employ at least twenty-five employees are unionized."
@@akyhne We were talking about Union workers in the USA not in Mexico
@@markket1154 Yeah, but your argument is, that the jobs goes to Mexico, because of unions in the US.
I'm just pointing out, that they have unions in Mexico as well. So that's not the reason.
@@akyhne The reason they sent the jobs to Mexico's goes to laborate down there's cheaper
@@akyhne That's what you call critical thinking skills. 👏👏👏
My dad said that if the employees wanted a union, that’s fine, but the next day he’d close the doors and auction everything. They did unionize, because they thought he was bluffing. Before everyone went home he handed out the final checks with vacation pay due to everyone. One week later all debts paid, taxes paid, W2’s sent, some orders shipped, those not shipped were reimbursed, equipment gone, not even a working phone number, there was nothing left of the business, it vanished. He started a totally new business six months later, the only thing that was the same was him. I asked if he would do it again. He said in a heartbeat, as many times as it takes. He was known to pay the best and have the best benefits in the valley. The company also produced the highest quality components.
There are two types of people. The one who create jobs and the ones who take those jobs. It’s easy to unionize and say pay me more because I think I deserve so. It’s not easy to create a business, start from scratch and take risks.
@@LuisPG92 But these people live in the same economic system as the business owners do however the owners seem to have more "life". It's absolutely not fair or just to pay them too little (despite their function/role in the business) in a system that requires the total sum of their income to get by which in turn leaves them bound to the company to survive. Wages and income have not kept up with costs of living at all, especially in housing.
Starbucks fired me on aug first when I was very vocal lol 😂
What about Tesla? Will they unionize?