Is Vynnset Broken Now? New Pieces from Rosetta Might Push Vynny Over the Top | Iron Maiden Deck Tech

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  • @CarlosRoigBCN
    @CarlosRoigBCN 2 місяці тому +17

    As one of the main (and lately only) developer from Talishar who is implementing all the last cards coming from Rosetta, Terra and Aurora, I can tell you that I will try to implement the most important Vynnset cards first. I myself am a Vynnset player, so I'm excited to start testing those cards. Actually, I'm going to the computer now that my kids are sleeping hahaha. Hopefully tomorrow I have some of them love already 👌 greetings and please continue with more Vynnset content!! I love it!

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому +4

      Wowowow - That’s amazing! Thank you for the work you do, for the kind words, and for the love you’re showing to the Vynnset community. You’re a straight up legend.

    • @CarlosRoigBCN
      @CarlosRoigBCN 2 місяці тому +6

      @@zenstatefab I'm just a regular guy haha. I must say, that I've seen some more developers doing a lot of work the lasts days and I just saw that almost all new Runeblade cards are implemented, but still not merged (we are doing code review), but they will be soon LIVE! Yaaay

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому +4

      Still, very cool, and you should know that the community appreciates you. Cheers!

    • @phamdinhhoang1998
      @phamdinhhoang1998 2 місяці тому +1

      What happened to Talishar's development team?

    • @andytan2411
      @andytan2411 2 місяці тому +1

      @@CarlosRoigBCN Amazing work man, you have the gratitude of all Vynnset players in Bali (all 4 of us LMAO)

  • @Wet_pizza
    @Wet_pizza 2 місяці тому +7

    Hope you feel better soon my guy. I kept telling my husband I was looking forward to this new set and seeing what Rosetta would do to bolster our queen Vynnset, the moment I saw Deadwood Dirge I was hyped. People at my local Armory were already cautious of my Vynnset because of the high damage numbers it could produce with a little setup, to be able to do just a little less but faster? Exciting stuff. Can't lie though, Florian looks like he could be a lot of fun. Not a replacement for Vynnset, but a different flavor.

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому

      Agreed! I will definitely be playing some Florian, but the new pieces for Vynnset are enough to keep me engaged with her too so this set is a win win really! Super hype

  • @corto5723
    @corto5723 2 місяці тому +3

    It's a pretty interesting list, close to my first too, I agree that the Redline build seems to be the one who gained the most with Deadwood Dirge.
    What I dislike the most is the reduction in Shadow NAA, for Deathly wail, to keep Creepers 1 more turn, and to self banish with the Widespreads that can be key to being able to keep Tempo.
    I like the idea of playing Jack-o-Lantern to remedy that but then we run into a BD ratio problem I feel like tough this need testing and might just be an impression.
    In the end I'm more curious about a more "classic" build, playing Arcane Cussing instead of Revel to keep the runechants flowing. Even if it is less exciting I really do like my blues and Envelop !
    In more Redline fashion I want to try a more "Eloquent/otk" build to up the BD count with Requiem, and Tome of Fyendal to abuse it. DMArmada shared a deck like that weeks ago, and I think the indirect Jack-o buff and Malefic Incantation helps it greatly.
    I may report back with an Eloquent build if I like it but for now I'm really excited for Oscillio !
    I hope you get better soon, being sick is rarely fun (even If FaB does help that !)

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому +1

      Good thoughts, thanks for sharing! I did already put pumpkin back in the list, tear through would be another one to test if you want more shadow NAAs. Look forward to seeing what you come up with!

  • @jacqueslacasse1536
    @jacqueslacasse1536 2 місяці тому +2

    I like the thought of Redline but I worry that if they hammer Zen down hard, Enigma rises and we’ll probably need lots of Shadow NAAs to counter. I also want to try triple aura Galaxia (Cussing/Malefic/Incantation)

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому

      Galaxia will be interesting to test. I think with access to pumpkin and tear through, redline has the most access to shadow NAAs so maybe the best counter into enigma honestly.

  • @brexcubo6766
    @brexcubo6766 2 місяці тому +2

    This list is exactly what i was testing (off of lead, i was trying tear too) but i believe not playing blues will be very detrimental the next set, with viserai and the others arcane damage dealers getting a big boost

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому

      Yeah that’s a good thought. Unless we are confident we can race them down, it will be scary going into runeblade mirrors with no blues. If this becomes a factor, then annihilation and ursur are my first two pickups, dropping rabble and pumpkin. Easy enough fix.

  • @AzurielMist
    @AzurielMist 2 місяці тому +3

    Love the new pieces we have access to, Malefic incantation especially to avoid those clunky turns closing the chain on deathly wail and only have other 3 costs in banish XD
    Condemn to slaughter is something I have my eye on for inventory slot, to creepers in response to a Zen state entering, it's nice we have at least the option to counter play that "interaction" now.
    (Unsure if it will hit it or not, as it specifies an aura permanent, as the zen state is a "token" aura....)
    I will likely keep the higher blue count myself for a few pummel, envelop etc, sonata galaxia, I have a few Victor, Zen and a sprinkling of Riptide and 1 of most other classes in our meta, so prefer the setup type of play for our meta.
    Widespread annihilation might be a bit easier to fire off now with these new bits hopfully.... it's my favourite art and I hate not to run it XD
    Super interesting options we have, I'll be interested to see if we get a new decent equipment piece, as we don't really block all too well on that front :L
    Hyped for the majestics/ legendaries spoilers this week!

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому +2

      Oooh! Good call on condemn to slaughter. I’ll have to check that out. Absolutely play to your strengths/ meta. I think regardless of the build, we are in much better shape now. Excited to see what else we get fron Rosetta as well!

  • @razielsghost6108
    @razielsghost6108 2 місяці тому +2

    Always happy to be taken through your lists and thoughts! Glad to see red Vynn is here to stay. Really wondering why youd play lead the charge over yellow mauv skies. Sure it can help against ALS, but mauv threatening an on hit against decks that don't care to block us feels much bigger to me (especially in the current meta). Otherwise loving both malefic and dirge, gonna start testing stuff myself tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing the next rare and all the majestics + legendary for runeblade coming in Rosetta. The hype for this set is never ending, heres hoping my case is good

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому +2

      I think yellow mauv is a great target if you’re not too worried about hitting them off rabble or pumpkin. Tear through also felt pretty good as another go again option. As mentioned, lead the charge is more of a test, not sure if it will stick. Thanks again for sharing your redline list, it definitely inspired my foray into redline, and it’s feeling quite good. The hype is real for sure.

  • @brexcubo6766
    @brexcubo6766 2 місяці тому +2

    I am gonna try the viserai cards now that we have good runechant generation.
    The ones that get discounted for each runechants, those sound pretty great to go wide

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому

      Yeah, fair enough! Could be some gems in there. Worth a test for sure!

  • @lyonsbane9
    @lyonsbane9 2 місяці тому +2

    Hey just wanted to say thank you for making these videos, I'm still pretty new to Flesh and Blood and these help a lot with understanding cards and their interactions. I got your Vynnset budget build and have been playing her at my local Armories, she's a lot of fun!
    But yeah your videos are always super clear and informative, so thank you!

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому +1

      Hell yeah! Thank you for the kind words and feedback! Super happy to hear you’re having fun on the budget list. These new pieces should slot into the budget build pretty easily and push it up quite a bit. Keep grinding my friend!

  • @MrAvacardo
    @MrAvacardo 2 місяці тому +1

    I am so excited for these new cards and so far they are only the Commons and Rares - The L's and M's might be terrifying!

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому

      I know, right? We haven’t seen anything yet, and already Vynnset is in a great place. It can only get better from here

  • @ember379
    @ember379 2 місяці тому +1

    Not sure if it was mentioned but Tear through the portal can target a Funeral Moon in banish and give it go again. So action point shenanigans. Also its very good vs enigma and prism since you can play it without a legal target in banish, you just play it, vynn trigger then it fails to resolve but you still get the go again.

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому

      Yo! I never thought of the interaction with funeral moon! Thanks for pointing that out. Tear through is back in! Lol

  • @typhus733
    @typhus733 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm super excited for the new cards! I do think the main bottleneck now is going to be getting enough RG cards into banish to have big pop-off turns. I've got my pumpkins and Blood Tributes ready to slot in as the lists get more refined

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому +1

      For sure. I’ve made room for pumpkins by cutting the sigils. The through is that this is an aggro leaning list anyways so might as well lean into it. Alternatively, we cut the flex slot go again enabler. I feel like we’ll end up missing both in certain matchups. I’m also excited to see how it shakes out in the end. Good to have options anyways!

  • @glendawe2597
    @glendawe2597 2 місяці тому +2

    New to FaB and chose Vynnset for my first hero after buying the boltyn precon to get into the game. Followed your guide for a budget Blitz deck for her before diving into CC .
    Think any of these new cards would fit into a blitz deck for her?

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  2 місяці тому

      Amazing! Welcome to fab! Glad to hear you’re having fun on Vynnset. 100% I think both auras slot very nicely into the blitz build (I would at least include dirge), and both will be super budget as well, so great all around.

  • @GoblinReserve
    @GoblinReserve Місяць тому +1

    I hardly know vynsett and I surely don’t love her. I played azalea, she gave me 2 BRP I responded with mordred dirge dirge🤣. Got to play mordred on a turn where I attacked with 2 malefic which is disgusting.

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  Місяць тому +1

      Well I don’t know Vis very well, but what I do know is that makes a lot of runechants. lol

  • @Crustyballchild
    @Crustyballchild Місяць тому +1

    I still think bynsett will be to weak to fatigue

    • @zenstatefab
      @zenstatefab  Місяць тому

      If fatigue become huge, we have more opportunity now to build up runechants. I feel good into verdance now.