I was initially going to upload a 3 cycle clear with Argenti, but the longer I reviewed my run the more mistakes I saw. When trying to do a different run, I realized I could actually cut a cycle so I did some more testing and worked out this rotation. Oh and Robin's E1 is needed for 2 cycles, but without it it's a comfortable 3 cycle. You can also do 3 cycles with Tingyun + Sparkle/Robin/Ruan Mei, Sparkle/Robin + Ruan Mei.
@@andrewchatman622she’s MUCH easier to build in comparison to other harmony characters tied to specific stats, (Bronya and Sparkle wanting crit damage, speed, and tank stats; Tingyun wanting speed and attack and tank stats if you can spare them; Robin wanting huge attack numbers; in comparison to Hanya who only cares for speed really) she gives a 43% damage increase at e6 max rank which means DOT and break characters benefit from them, an e6 Hanya with 165 speed after skill has 198 speed which means her ult target gains 41.6 speed, enough to give them a whole extra 4 turns over the course of 2 cycles for a DPS with 134 speed, and she also allows for a ton of skill point usage as well. Take for example an e0s1 Boothill, who would usually want at least 130 speed so with his lightcone he gets an extra 12% to reach 145 for the break planar set. An e6 Hanya after skill and ult will give 43% extra damage for 2 turns on Boothill’s break damage AND his extra break damage, but will also give him 63% attack for his enhanced basic attack as well, AND give him 41.6 speed, getting him to 186 speed which allows him to have 2 turns for free for 3 cycles. I think she’s super good for hyper carries and in particular really shines with DPSes that want speed.
@@koringavp3669 attack does help his actual enhanced basic’s damage, especially since he gives himself free crit rate and crit damage. So I wouldn’t say it’s useless, just not a higher priority stat to care about raising.
Holy shit, I almost had an aneurysm trying to run JY on side 2 due to the trotter advances screwing up buff rotations (it took 7 cycles Q.Q) but you make it look so easy!
Wasn't expecting to see the 2-2 Atk increase relics on Argenti really. Kinda makes me think I can run that instead of full Physical Set if substats are annoying to get. Also I adore Hanya, a shame she got overshadowed at an SP farming Harmony by Sparkle but I still like her playstyle and how versatile she can be in most team comps.
The Physical set only has 1% more ATK and 10 Phys DMG%, which is already diluted from Harmonies and such, so it's not like that much better. Still waiting on a relic set that boosts Ultimate damage, but maybe they're delaying it because it'd make Acheron more stupid.
Nice clear as usual! For now I got 4 cycles running aven/jy/robin/topaz since my gallagher is unbuilt e0 and I'm not about to mald with cc (in fact, my aven and topaz got cc'd in my clear run, jy was spared smh lol) In this particular comp, the trotters became helpful to assist jy in gaining stacks + no lost buffs bc of robin and topaz + aven applying debuffs from sigcones. My topaz was not built well (77/111 after robbing ratio and himeko) so I could prob get better clear if I improve her but that's it for now lol
That's impressive, I can only 7 cycle with my E0S1 Argenti (first half even) with Bronya, Tingyun and Loucha in the team idk they're definitely not as fast as your supports and there's some skill issue 😭
I intially tried using Bronya instead of Hanya but ran into some SP issues because Huohuo isn't as SP positive. Runs with her were a lot more unstable due to her SP usage and E1 not procc-ing. Best I could manage was 27 cycles remaining with Bronya while it was a lot easier to work out 28 cycles remaining with Hanya. So it is likely the relics or your Tingyun doesn't have DDD.
Sparkle's not as good this rotation because of the liability of Jing Yuan breaking the Trotter and advancing forward, making her buff evaporate before LL strikes. But she is still quite good obviously. If you don't have her, then you can try Ruan Mei, Robin, or Hanya to combine with Tingyun. I'd also recommend Gallagher if you don't have limited sustains as he breaks the puppets very fast, making them take more damage.
Havent used jingyuan since like dan heng came out for the first time but LL is such a sick animation I wanna get back to using him :(. Does his lightcone make a huge difference in damage? I only have that herta follow up lightcone for him but then again, my relics are awful and outdated
Having a carry's signature LC is a huge boost to any character yeah. The Herta LC is bad because it only affects LL and not his ult or skill, which need to deal damage as well to soften up enemies and get rid of minions that dilute LL's hits. The much better F2P options are Seriousness of Breakfast or The Day The Cosmos Fell.
@@Tylting just saw you have a couple vids about how to build and use jingyuan which was super helpful! 🫡 still stuck on farming relics for firefly but i think you convinced me to try building jy again. Thanks!
Hello, would it be worth getting Argenti's LC ? Been using him since launch and I currently have ~80/244 (full passive and Sparkle's buff), at the start of the fight he has ~58/144. I am still to decide between his Lc or saving some more and getting HuoHuo(guaranteed) and maybe her Lc. Also, everytime I see you posting Argenti or KingYuan I just come and like before watching (and of course then I watch). Thanks in advance
Huohuo is pretty good though, good for Argenti and she's also good with Robin as well. Probably save for Huohuo. Her LC is pretty whatever, it's probably better to go for E1 if you want to vertically invest on her
If you have to choose only getting one between his LC or getting Huohuo, get Huohuo 100%. Huohuo is good across the board, not just for her Energy Battery, but the flexibility of her cleanses and emergency healing. Unlike Luocha who only heals if you have damage dealing ults in between enemy damage, you can use any ult to heal allies under 50% HP with Huohuo. This is especially significant in hypercarry teams with 2 Harmonies, as typically Harmonies do not attack with their ults. Her LC is pretty whatever though. So if you can, get both Argenti's LC and Huohuo, since you've been using him since launch which means I can assume you like him a lot. But overall, the difference between his signature and more accessible options is about 1-2 cycles, assuming decent relics.
@@leonidesbabanto1585 Thanks for the advice man, I intend on clearing MOC12 someday, been clearing MOC10 pretty easily and from time to time also MOC11.
I'm actually more surprised Hanya with Argenti worked better than Bronya/Sparkle support, being able to 2 cycle. The others always end up with 3 cycle. Seems like Huohuo is a must pull for my Argenti... She generating energy so fast... or actually what if the best team comp for Argenti rn? But is Bronya/Sparkle + Tingyun + Huohuo actually better? Wow... how did JY even brute force that 8:37 , without weakness break... (I'm starting to feel is E1 Jing Yuan actually pretty good)
Sparkle/Robin instead of Hanya more easily reach 2 cycles without having to rely on RNG in the first wave. I could probably push it to 1 cycle with either of them too. Huohuo in my opinion is a must pull, not because of her Energy synergy, but because she lets you skip all the debuffs the recent MOC's throw at you. She's the sole reason why I've stopped using Fu Xuan because Fu Xuan gets overwhelmed by constant CC without burning through SP. In my opinion, the best team for Argenti is Tingyun/Robin/Huohuo. But Robin is contingent on having Huohuo for a stable rotation, otherwise Sparkle would be the best option, but the difference is pretty minimal. There is also the Sparkle-Bronya duo with Argenti which actually works quite well but you may find yourself short of energy to ult at times. The main issue I find with Tingyun/Bronya/Huohuo is Bronya is an SP guzzler, especially if you don't have E1 or it fails to proc. Even on an SP neutral rotation, I don't find Bronya as smooth to run compared to Sparkle or Robin. E1 Jing Yuan will gain more value if they put in more scenarios of 3 target elite/bosses. It's not worth much if they go back to just putting in 2 elites/1 elite 1 boss, or just single target where E1 is completely useless.
@@Tylting Btw I forgot to ask, won't huohuo have the same problem like Luocha against mobs that can 1 shot teammates? Like the blue/soda ape, and she will have problem against sam, right?
I'm really starting to think something's wrong with my Jing Yuan, because I'll never see Lightning Lord do more than 250k+ for me. Either my relics are mid or I just don't have the right team for him 🥲
Mine also has a good amount of vertical investments as well, but you can refer to my previous videos with less vertical investments. You can't go wrong with a base of Tingyun + 5* Harmony + 5* sustain, so maybe it's the relics.
Try to max level your traces on both jy and his supports. JY especially gains a lot from having all his traces maxed, but honestly the same goes to all dpses if your aim is moc and other endgames. The same goes with supports. Once I decided to full max my fuxuan and asta's traces, my cycles got cut down by 2.
The key to side 2 is having someone help breaking the non lightning weak elite. Not only this particular punk will be too tanky without breaking, he will be an absolute pest in phase 2 by spamming aoe attack. This is why tyl brought aventurine, since he can help breaking that particular elite. You can use gallagher or a combo of aven + gui to assist with the breaking. I've seen someone going from miserable 15 cycles to 9 cycles just by bringing gallagher.
@@vwoeng7477 if only my Gallagher was e2. My Acheron got stunned every single time that mf throwing musical notes at her and Gallagher need e2 for cleanse 🗿
so aventurine is better in second half rather than fuxuan? 🧍🏻♀️i tried miliion times with fuxuan but ended up consumed too much skill point since her cc resist only lasting for once so i had to used skill again and again, those 3 new enemies in second half are stupid they literally give my team non stop debuffs 😭😭😭😭 not to mention i dont have sparkle so it sucks for my sp management
Aventurine is way better than Fu Xuan here yeah. Fu Xuan imo is a bit better at keeping the team alive but she is worse than him in anything else (offensive utility, personal damage, debuff prevention). Fu Xuan would do a lot better on the first half, where Argenti doesn't have any CC and you can more easily guard against the Aurumaton.
The second half is everything fuxuan hates, even if we ignore the break requirement. She particularly struggles with multi aoe and multi dots since her cc cancel is only for cc, but not dots, so the accumulated dots will be felt the longer the fight goes on. Furthermore, she needs to use skill once in a while and this side can be sp intensive with the trotters advancing your dps more
I was initially going to upload a 3 cycle clear with Argenti, but the longer I reviewed my run the more mistakes I saw. When trying to do a different run, I realized I could actually cut a cycle so I did some more testing and worked out this rotation.
Oh and Robin's E1 is needed for 2 cycles, but without it it's a comfortable 3 cycle. You can also do 3 cycles with Tingyun + Sparkle/Robin/Ruan Mei, Sparkle/Robin + Ruan Mei.
I fully believe the community sleeps on Hanya waaaaay too much. She’s such a good all rounder support imo.
why use hanya if you have sparkle otherwise she is good to use
@@andrewchatman622she’s MUCH easier to build in comparison to other harmony characters tied to specific stats, (Bronya and Sparkle wanting crit damage, speed, and tank stats; Tingyun wanting speed and attack and tank stats if you can spare them; Robin wanting huge attack numbers; in comparison to Hanya who only cares for speed really) she gives a 43% damage increase at e6 max rank which means DOT and break characters benefit from them, an e6 Hanya with 165 speed after skill has 198 speed which means her ult target gains 41.6 speed, enough to give them a whole extra 4 turns over the course of 2 cycles for a DPS with 134 speed, and she also allows for a ton of skill point usage as well.
Take for example an e0s1 Boothill, who would usually want at least 130 speed so with his lightcone he gets an extra 12% to reach 145 for the break planar set. An e6 Hanya after skill and ult will give 43% extra damage for 2 turns on Boothill’s break damage AND his extra break damage, but will also give him 63% attack for his enhanced basic attack as well, AND give him 41.6 speed, getting him to 186 speed which allows him to have 2 turns for free for 3 cycles.
I think she’s super good for hyper carries and in particular really shines with DPSes that want speed.
Well to be fair, she first released on Argenti's banner, who a lot of people skipped therefore not many people have her.
@@thedandguy189atk and dmg bonus are barely useless for boothill unfortunately, but the is speed is great tho
i think she'll be great with firefly
@@koringavp3669 attack does help his actual enhanced basic’s damage, especially since he gives himself free crit rate and crit damage. So I wouldn’t say it’s useless, just not a higher priority stat to care about raising.
Holy shit, I almost had an aneurysm trying to run JY on side 2 due to the trotter advances screwing up buff rotations (it took 7 cycles Q.Q) but you make it look so easy!
E1S1 Robin makes your life easy
who knew the best way to beat argenti is to use argenti lol
very nice clear
Love the pgr soundtrack, and also your Argenti hits so effing hard, great job.
I love Hanya with Argenti.
TBH I only use her with Argenti + planetary.
She’s so underrated 🥰
Love the vid plus ur music choice very impressive
thank you smmm for the argenti showcase it's hard to find content around him these days
and here i am still waiting for my first pela and tingyun :( . nice run
Jingyuan's followup attack is so satisfying to see
I still find it Funny on how Argenti Counters Himself
Wasn't expecting to see the 2-2 Atk increase relics on Argenti really. Kinda makes me think I can run that instead of full Physical Set if substats are annoying to get.
Also I adore Hanya, a shame she got overshadowed at an SP farming Harmony by Sparkle but I still like her playstyle and how versatile she can be in most team comps.
The Physical set only has 1% more ATK and 10 Phys DMG%, which is already diluted from Harmonies and such, so it's not like that much better. Still waiting on a relic set that boosts Ultimate damage, but maybe they're delaying it because it'd make Acheron more stupid.
@@Tylting Yeah that's fair, unless they add some form of limit like it being for a specific Path and such, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
Nice clear dawg
luv the PGR music
1:30 Me with my argenti who has 30 crit rate with 210 crit damage when all crit hits:
Satisfaction
Nice clear as usual! For now I got 4 cycles running aven/jy/robin/topaz since my gallagher is unbuilt e0 and I'm not about to mald with cc (in fact, my aven and topaz got cc'd in my clear run, jy was spared smh lol) In this particular comp, the trotters became helpful to assist jy in gaining stacks + no lost buffs bc of robin and topaz + aven applying debuffs from sigcones. My topaz was not built well (77/111 after robbing ratio and himeko) so I could prob get better clear if I improve her but that's it for now lol
That's impressive, I can only 7 cycle with my E0S1 Argenti (first half even) with Bronya, Tingyun and Loucha in the team idk they're definitely not as fast as your supports and there's some skill issue 😭
I intially tried using Bronya instead of Hanya but ran into some SP issues because Huohuo isn't as SP positive. Runs with her were a lot more unstable due to her SP usage and E1 not procc-ing. Best I could manage was 27 cycles remaining with Bronya while it was a lot easier to work out 28 cycles remaining with Hanya.
So it is likely the relics or your Tingyun doesn't have DDD.
Towerfierce timing is so good
Damn I really need sparkle and fix my jing yuan cause my boothill cleared first half in 2 cycles... my jing yuan then completed the other half in 10💀
Sparkle's not as good this rotation because of the liability of Jing Yuan breaking the Trotter and advancing forward, making her buff evaporate before LL strikes. But she is still quite good obviously.
If you don't have her, then you can try Ruan Mei, Robin, or Hanya to combine with Tingyun. I'd also recommend Gallagher if you don't have limited sustains as he breaks the puppets very fast, making them take more damage.
Salam dari loufu "king yuan"
Havent used jingyuan since like dan heng came out for the first time but LL is such a sick animation I wanna get back to using him :(. Does his lightcone make a huge difference in damage? I only have that herta follow up lightcone for him but then again, my relics are awful and outdated
Having a carry's signature LC is a huge boost to any character yeah. The Herta LC is bad because it only affects LL and not his ult or skill, which need to deal damage as well to soften up enemies and get rid of minions that dilute LL's hits. The much better F2P options are Seriousness of Breakfast or The Day The Cosmos Fell.
@@Tylting just saw you have a couple vids about how to build and use jingyuan which was super helpful! 🫡 still stuck on farming relics for firefly but i think you convinced me to try building jy again. Thanks!
Hello, would it be worth getting Argenti's LC ? Been using him since launch and I currently have ~80/244 (full passive and Sparkle's buff), at the start of the fight he has ~58/144. I am still to decide between his Lc or saving some more and getting HuoHuo(guaranteed) and maybe her Lc. Also, everytime I see you posting Argenti or KingYuan I just come and like before watching (and of course then I watch). Thanks in advance
Huohuo is pretty good though, good for Argenti and she's also good with Robin as well. Probably save for Huohuo. Her LC is pretty whatever, it's probably better to go for E1 if you want to vertically invest on her
If you have to choose only getting one between his LC or getting Huohuo, get Huohuo 100%.
Huohuo is good across the board, not just for her Energy Battery, but the flexibility of her cleanses and emergency healing. Unlike Luocha who only heals if you have damage dealing ults in between enemy damage, you can use any ult to heal allies under 50% HP with Huohuo. This is especially significant in hypercarry teams with 2 Harmonies, as typically Harmonies do not attack with their ults. Her LC is pretty whatever though.
So if you can, get both Argenti's LC and Huohuo, since you've been using him since launch which means I can assume you like him a lot. But overall, the difference between his signature and more accessible options is about 1-2 cycles, assuming decent relics.
Thanks, yes I do like Argenti, he's been my favorite ever since his release. I might change his relics even though they aren't bad. @@Tylting
@@leonidesbabanto1585 Thanks for the advice man, I intend on clearing MOC12 someday, been clearing MOC10 pretty easily and from time to time also MOC11.
I'm actually more surprised Hanya with Argenti worked better than Bronya/Sparkle support, being able to 2 cycle. The others always end up with 3 cycle.
Seems like Huohuo is a must pull for my Argenti... She generating energy so fast... or actually what if the best team comp for Argenti rn?
But is Bronya/Sparkle + Tingyun + Huohuo actually better?
Wow... how did JY even brute force that 8:37 , without weakness break... (I'm starting to feel is E1 Jing Yuan actually pretty good)
Sparkle/Robin instead of Hanya more easily reach 2 cycles without having to rely on RNG in the first wave. I could probably push it to 1 cycle with either of them too.
Huohuo in my opinion is a must pull, not because of her Energy synergy, but because she lets you skip all the debuffs the recent MOC's throw at you. She's the sole reason why I've stopped using Fu Xuan because Fu Xuan gets overwhelmed by constant CC without burning through SP.
In my opinion, the best team for Argenti is Tingyun/Robin/Huohuo. But Robin is contingent on having Huohuo for a stable rotation, otherwise Sparkle would be the best option, but the difference is pretty minimal. There is also the Sparkle-Bronya duo with Argenti which actually works quite well but you may find yourself short of energy to ult at times. The main issue I find with Tingyun/Bronya/Huohuo is Bronya is an SP guzzler, especially if you don't have E1 or it fails to proc. Even on an SP neutral rotation, I don't find Bronya as smooth to run compared to Sparkle or Robin.
E1 Jing Yuan will gain more value if they put in more scenarios of 3 target elite/bosses. It's not worth much if they go back to just putting in 2 elites/1 elite 1 boss, or just single target where E1 is completely useless.
@@Tylting Btw I forgot to ask, won't huohuo have the same problem like Luocha against mobs that can 1 shot teammates? Like the blue/soda ape, and she will have problem against sam, right?
In my experience, no. I've never had one shot problems with her but I have had one shot issues with Luocha.
That 1% hurts
Is his e1 better or s1 better?
Argenti? E1 is better if you have the BP LC, but otherwise I would get S1.
@@Tylting If we have him on E0 and S0 his S1 is better? Btw thx for telling me
Lmao imagine not 0 cycling with all those investment
If I cared about 0 cycles I wouldn't run sustains.
I'm really starting to think something's wrong with my Jing Yuan, because I'll never see Lightning Lord do more than 250k+ for me. Either my relics are mid or I just don't have the right team for him 🥲
Mine also has a good amount of vertical investments as well, but you can refer to my previous videos with less vertical investments. You can't go wrong with a base of Tingyun + 5* Harmony + 5* sustain, so maybe it's the relics.
Try to max level your traces on both jy and his supports. JY especially gains a lot from having all his traces maxed, but honestly the same goes to all dpses if your aim is moc and other endgames. The same goes with supports. Once I decided to full max my fuxuan and asta's traces, my cycles got cut down by 2.
Why cant my acheron clear 2nd half this good 🥲
Ignoring my vertical investments, it might be your relics which are unfortunately hard to improve asap.
The key to side 2 is having someone help breaking the non lightning weak elite. Not only this particular punk will be too tanky without breaking, he will be an absolute pest in phase 2 by spamming aoe attack. This is why tyl brought aventurine, since he can help breaking that particular elite. You can use gallagher or a combo of aven + gui to assist with the breaking. I've seen someone going from miserable 15 cycles to 9 cycles just by bringing gallagher.
@@vwoeng7477 if only my Gallagher was e2. My Acheron got stunned every single time that mf throwing musical notes at her and Gallagher need e2 for cleanse 🗿
so aventurine is better in second half rather than fuxuan? 🧍🏻♀️i tried miliion times with fuxuan but ended up consumed too much skill point since her cc resist only lasting for once so i had to used skill again and again, those 3 new enemies in second half are stupid they literally give my team non stop debuffs 😭😭😭😭 not to mention i dont have sparkle so it sucks for my sp management
Aventurine is way better than Fu Xuan here yeah. Fu Xuan imo is a bit better at keeping the team alive but she is worse than him in anything else (offensive utility, personal damage, debuff prevention).
Fu Xuan would do a lot better on the first half, where Argenti doesn't have any CC and you can more easily guard against the Aurumaton.
@@Tylting alright thank u, might consinder to pulled huohuo then for my argenti 😔😔
The second half is everything fuxuan hates, even if we ignore the break requirement. She particularly struggles with multi aoe and multi dots since her cc cancel is only for cc, but not dots, so the accumulated dots will be felt the longer the fight goes on. Furthermore, she needs to use skill once in a while and this side can be sp intensive with the trotters advancing your dps more