I believe how fast the pocket is growing is based on the "pulsing" animation. When you have low heat, it pulses for a bit and stops. When you have sufficient heat, it pulses continuously, and that is probably the maximum speed
Something to consider, when you started pumping gas to the left and it was high 2s and 3s, could just use 1 horse to sell just a little to keep a slight influx of money without having to worry about the debt. That one horse will get you enough money in just 1 or 2 sells typically.
Tyler, the shorter the pipe the better it is for growing gas. That last big pocket of oil had a magma pocket nearby, yet you connected the pipe as far as possible from the magma.
Classic computer science problem. Just need a bus up the top. So a row of pipes just below the surface that travels along connecting to each rig above, then branch from there to the oil below. Then you have a pipe that'll let you go to any rig/company from anything below that. Set up two of those and you'll be able to double pipe to anywhere
14:32 Immediately limits how many pipes of gas, lol. I'm thinking maybe do a short pipe off the rig, so you can use that node to pump tons of gas while closing the rig.
Try to make more short pipes so you have more connections and you dont block yourself so much. This way you can kind of make a net and have better routs for late game.
Love this game and love wathcing you play! I notice youre getting better with turning it into gas pockets but my heart always races when i notice it and then you catching it give me relief lol.
I think when connecting the rig to oil pockets, doing it with two connected pipes instead of one would make things a lot easier for you. It would give you more options to move more gas later on without being bottlenecked by a single pipe somewhere in your network.
You get more heat through upgraded pipes so just upgrade them instead of making a bunch of connections. Edit: Nevermind he seems to have figured it out this episode
The thing about these turmoil videos from you is that I don’t just like them, I love them… I am always on the lookout for a new turmoil video from you. 😊, I also don’t do like with other videos on this platform, where I watch them when I see them on my homepage or when I feel like it, no. With these videos I wait to before I go to bed to have a nice and relaxing time. just such a treat to watch them. Thank you so so much for posting and I hope you have the best holidays of your life!
I think the game is just less fun without upgrades, both for tyler and for the viewer. With less horses and less pipe connections it would just be tyler setting up a bunch of rigs and normally selling oil the whole game.
22:47 you could have unlocked the point at the rig so that the other gass pockets could be used to push the price up at the same time as the pockets on the left and middle... Though this was awful infrastructure this time unlike the last one that you didn't pump at the same time. The kee point of double piping gass is that you can use all the pockets all at once to pump instead 1 pocket in a long chain of pockets. The price will sky rocket fast and you can have more time to grow them too if done at the last minute. Often times I see that you have to sell early even though the gass pockets haven't been drained, or start the gassing much earlier to drain all the gass pockets. The bubles give you an indicator of how much is pumping in. If it looks like small bursts of bobbles, then you need better gass conection due to the choke point. Like in this example you could have unlocked the top rig connection from the start to pump it faster. Also I believe you can lock the point below the oil company. That may or may not be useful. So instead of being indecisive about pumping gass 1 at a time you need to do it all at once. Even if you think you're too early or late it has to be all at once. If there is a choke point where bubbles don't flow smoothly open up even more spots. I hope to see a mythical 8 dollar price some day. Maybe a 7 dollar in the next vid. That could have been the 60 point land but you didn't utilize both pipes at all to pump the gass. Thats why you had extra gass even at a 5.70 buck rang.
The big thing that I notice that will really help the run is not being too conservative on gas. Spending a couple thousand plus 6 months interest on infrastructure just to only get half the gas out of a pocket is definitely a large part of that 20k debt . Gas raises price on a curve so if you’re starting in September by middle of November you’re gonna be growing too slow to keep doing 1 pocket a time. You could make less gas but it’s better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. I’d just say by late November/early December if you have any gas just slam it all at once and see if you can get a quick spike.
Tyler talking about how overwhelming the amount of optimizations are and half the comments being about still needing to optimize further lol, this game is wild.
You should do a three little pipes from the oil well to allow for bypass in end game to give the option to by pass the oil shut off allowing a second route for gas to which ever side you go to. This is the solution your looking for.
I think he should make a singular downward column of pipes from the first oil rig, to create a "Spine" that he can launch filiment pipes from, so he can connect on BOTH sides of that oil rig. Just regular stops every few units down: so he has plenty of nodes to branch from. So he's not stuck trying to curl pipes AROUND the main branch. Maybe I'm wrong.
nodes block gas and frankly downward column sounds kinda ass. I propose horizontal line of pipes right near the surface and then do all connections from it's nodes. Then you always have at least one line to get oil through while you r growing gas
In today's episode, Tyler learns how hard it is to speedrun Turmoil. Also I wonder how good you could get this game if you used TAS to slow things down.
Selling is definitely not bettter than loans in the early game. When you sell you make about 5x less off the oil than you would, but loans are at most 2-3x as expensive as the money you get
In the second land, the number of big pipes connecting to the company determines your max throughput of gas, in this case two big pipes. But since most of your gas was coming across map you pumped at a rate of one big pipe for a long while, there was only one big pipe connecting the big gas pocket to the rest of your system. When you opened up the lower-left pocket your net throughput reached two big pipes. The graphic is a little hard to see, the small blue diamonds represents gas throughput (much like when oil starts to dry up and you see the black line get choppy). A solid line of blue diamonds is max, 2-3 blue diamonds seems like half throughput. :D
I dont know why but when Tyler said "pump it all" the only thing I could think about was the song Pump It Up but all instead of up.....anyway algorithm food
I feel like the bots should recognize when you are always trying to win stocks no matter what, and constantly up the amount they're willing to pay on stocks to try and bleed you
Would it be better to drill to magma first and then split off to the oil pockets, instead of the other way around. That way you can close off and grow gas without blocking routes for other oil. It also sets up a route for the gas later on, but you may want to add more routes as well before the big pump.
Why don't you connect each oil pocket with at least 2 moves (I mean putting a node in the middle of the pipe)? In this way when you close the rig you can connect all the middle nodes to each other and have a cleaner and easier way to boost the price.
Is there an advantage to connecting a rig directly to a pocket, as opposed to making a node in between so that it's easier to branch off and/or close off the node to keep the pocket isolated?
In that second game, could you not connect them all through the bottom to get to the two triple pipes? Like, over the magma to the trident, then from the trident to the asshole pockets?
if not, then using bigger pipes is equivalent to compression of more smaller pipes and pumping from many pipes at once is faster than from one big one imo (connecting the same pocket to more pipes)
The infrastructure is so ass in the first run. That just doesnt work, you have to pipe the gas through this nonsense somehow. You have to do more joints
That intro clip has funny timing, because I told mom that I wanted Sonic Frontiers for Christmas earlir. (I'm grown, but she's the only one with income.)
"This is a HARD HARD game!", mf you're playing expert difficulty and gave the AI a headstart, and proceed to 100% beat them. Hard to do it flawlessly sure, but the difficulty the game comes with is much lower than that
Day 1516 of telling Tyler that he never finished his minecraft series and that he should finish it. God i love watching turmoil so much. As an american, all this oil makes me so excited
You aren't getting choke points from smaller pipes, I mean you are but your actual chokepoints are bad node layouts. Having two big pipes to the seller is great and all but the majority of your gas was bottlenecked to one pipe. You had the opportunity to relieve that by making another pipe at the bottom to let more gas through but didn't even mention that. You need to stop making long pipes that have maxed out nodes if you want to have the gas interconnect. Shorter pipes, smarter nodes, only max out a node if you have a way around it or if it's not needed for gas transport
Nothing quite matches the sheer, unbridled despair I experience when I see Tyler isn't noticing that an oil pocket is about to run out.
@@havesomeslav no literally
@@havesomeslav 17:02 hurt
For real
I believe how fast the pocket is growing is based on the "pulsing" animation. When you have low heat, it pulses for a bit and stops. When you have sufficient heat, it pulses continuously, and that is probably the maximum speed
Something to consider, when you started pumping gas to the left and it was high 2s and 3s, could just use 1 horse to sell just a little to keep a slight influx of money without having to worry about the debt. That one horse will get you enough money in just 1 or 2 sells typically.
Tyler, the shorter the pipe the better it is for growing gas. That last big pocket of oil had a magma pocket nearby, yet you connected the pipe as far as possible from the magma.
Classic computer science problem. Just need a bus up the top. So a row of pipes just below the surface that travels along connecting to each rig above, then branch from there to the oil below. Then you have a pipe that'll let you go to any rig/company from anything below that. Set up two of those and you'll be able to double pipe to anywhere
But if he does that, he will have a lot more debt, he also has to minimize amount of pipes
making a double lane this way wouldnt work, as pipes cannot intersect.
15:11 comically large oil pocket is here
This guy pockets
Oil pocket she tells you not to worry about
She oil on my pocket til I turmoil
visible in its full glory at 23:34
14:32 Immediately limits how many pipes of gas, lol.
I'm thinking maybe do a short pipe off the rig, so you can use that node to pump tons of gas while closing the rig.
Smart.
Tyler I need you to know that you’re so good at the game that now I can only watch your gameplay of turmoil bc everyone else’s annoys me
Try to make more short pipes so you have more connections and you dont block yourself so much. This way you can kind of make a net and have better routs for late game.
the problem with that is gas growing stops at nodes and you'll have to close multiple nodes
@@rioghander2te then just make a big horizontal line like right near the surface so it doesnt block anything and spread pipes out from it
This is exactly what I watch on 2 hour long drives to football games in the freezing cold
But it's only 25 minutes. Are you watching it several times in a row?
@@henke37maybe they mean they watch videos like this on drives
While driving? 🧐
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man I'm just realizing how brutal 100% stocks is
Love this game and love wathcing you play! I notice youre getting better with turning it into gas pockets but my heart always races when i notice it and then you catching it give me relief lol.
I think when connecting the rig to oil pockets, doing it with two connected pipes instead of one would make things a lot easier for you. It would give you more options to move more gas later on without being bottlenecked by a single pipe somewhere in your network.
You get more heat through upgraded pipes so just upgrade them instead of making a bunch of connections.
Edit: Nevermind he seems to have figured it out this episode
Someone else said big piping magma doesn’t do anything? Anybody able to confirm either way?
1:03 damn right you’re going to upgrade the wagon size…. You’re killing it back there homie!
The thing about these turmoil videos from you is that I don’t just like them, I love them… I am always on the lookout for a new turmoil video from you. 😊, I also don’t do like with other videos on this platform, where I watch them when I see them on my homepage or when I feel like it, no. With these videos I wait to before I go to bed to have a nice and relaxing time. just such a treat to watch them. Thank you so so much for posting and I hope you have the best holidays of your life!
Interesting to watch you figure things out & get ever closer to solving Turmoil.
it would be useful to drill a very short shaft straight away down from the drill and then branch out, that way you can use the system to pump gass
Ultra hard mode - You cannot buy upgrades (except for the 200k for initial upgrades)
I think the game is just less fun without upgrades, both for tyler and for the viewer. With less horses and less pipe connections it would just be tyler setting up a bunch of rigs and normally selling oil the whole game.
Tyler is going up against the oft-discussed "Big Oil" in this one...
Haha, the shelve in your facecam makes it look like its stapled to the board.
Lmao, I see it 😂
22:47 you could have unlocked the point at the rig so that the other gass pockets could be used to push the price up at the same time as the pockets on the left and middle...
Though this was awful infrastructure this time unlike the last one that you didn't pump at the same time. The kee point of double piping gass is that you can use all the pockets all at once to pump instead 1 pocket in a long chain of pockets. The price will sky rocket fast and you can have more time to grow them too if done at the last minute.
Often times I see that you have to sell early even though the gass pockets haven't been drained, or start the gassing much earlier to drain all the gass pockets.
The bubles give you an indicator of how much is pumping in. If it looks like small bursts of bobbles, then you need better gass conection due to the choke point. Like in this example you could have unlocked the top rig connection from the start to pump it faster.
Also I believe you can lock the point below the oil company. That may or may not be useful.
So instead of being indecisive about pumping gass 1 at a time you need to do it all at once. Even if you think you're too early or late it has to be all at once. If there is a choke point where bubbles don't flow smoothly open up even more spots. I hope to see a mythical 8 dollar price some day. Maybe a 7 dollar in the next vid. That could have been the 60 point land but you didn't utilize both pipes at all to pump the gass. Thats why you had extra gass even at a 5.70 buck rang.
just here to get my dowser dipped
The big thing that I notice that will really help the run is not being too conservative on gas. Spending a couple thousand plus 6 months interest on infrastructure just to only get half the gas out of a pocket is definitely a large part of that 20k debt .
Gas raises price on a curve so if you’re starting in September by middle of November you’re gonna be growing too slow to keep doing 1 pocket a time. You could make less gas but it’s better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. I’d just say by late November/early December if you have any gas just slam it all at once and see if you can get a quick spike.
as soon as the camera in the game goes down, Tyler is dipping the oil in those big ass Silos lol
Tyler talking about how overwhelming the amount of optimizations are and half the comments being about still needing to optimize further lol, this game is wild.
the oilerrrrr
It's fun how much he's improved
bro got Just a Spoonful sized oil pocket
This shit literally makes my day. Tyler if you ever stop uploading It will be a sad day for us all. ❤
You should do a three little pipes from the oil well to allow for bypass in end game to give the option to by pass the oil shut off allowing a second route for gas to which ever side you go to.
This is the solution your looking for.
The land has been incredible these last couple of videos i didn't know you could get so lucky
I think he should make a singular downward column of pipes from the first oil rig, to create a "Spine" that he can launch filiment pipes from, so he can connect on BOTH sides of that oil rig.
Just regular stops every few units down: so he has plenty of nodes to branch from.
So he's not stuck trying to curl pipes AROUND the main branch.
Maybe I'm wrong.
nodes block gas and frankly downward column sounds kinda ass. I propose horizontal line of pipes right near the surface and then do all connections from it's nodes. Then you always have at least one line to get oil through while you r growing gas
3:10 ah yes. it's our land, comrade.
I feel like an early gas pocket selling some horses might be better than taking out so many loans.
New Turmoil lets go!
In today's episode, Tyler learns how hard it is to speedrun Turmoil.
Also I wonder how good you could get this game if you used TAS to slow things down.
That is one massive oil pocket.
You know what else is massive?
United States national debt?
@@thekingoffailure9967the low taper fade meme is still massive
These share prices are starting to sky rocket. I'm really curious to see whether Tyler's gonna be able to get that 100%.
thanks for fixing the hair tyler
sorry that was mean, I know it probably keeps you up at night so I wanted to let you know I didn't think it was that bad
The branch limit is per node! Just make more nodes, earlier.
Selling is definitely not bettter than loans in the early game. When you sell you make about 5x less off the oil than you would, but loans are at most 2-3x as expensive as the money you get
love these!!
In the second land, the number of big pipes connecting to the company determines your max throughput of gas, in this case two big pipes. But since most of your gas was coming across map you pumped at a rate of one big pipe for a long while, there was only one big pipe connecting the big gas pocket to the rest of your system. When you opened up the lower-left pocket your net throughput reached two big pipes.
The graphic is a little hard to see, the small blue diamonds represents gas throughput (much like when oil starts to dry up and you see the black line get choppy). A solid line of blue diamonds is max, 2-3 blue diamonds seems like half throughput. :D
both aliensrock and icely uploading about games involving black liquid
The most involved oil strategy in the west
I dont know why but when Tyler said "pump it all" the only thing I could think about was the song Pump It Up but all instead of up.....anyway algorithm food
I feel like the bots should recognize when you are always trying to win stocks no matter what, and constantly up the amount they're willing to pay on stocks to try and bleed you
Would it be better to drill to magma first and then split off to the oil pockets, instead of the other way around. That way you can close off and grow gas without blocking routes for other oil. It also sets up a route for the gas later on, but you may want to add more routes as well before the big pump.
9 minutes ago jumpscare.
0:01 Sonic Frontiers(?) jumpscare.
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Why don't you connect each oil pocket with at least 2 moves (I mean putting a node in the middle of the pipe)? In this way when you close the rig you can connect all the middle nodes to each other and have a cleaner and easier way to boost the price.
i love this game so much
Man just watching this game stresses me out so much
please let me sleep it’s 12 am
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5:00 you could have used the middle pocket that you didn't close in time instead of draining the other pocket
Gas.
Make more gas? Eat more beans!
Are you going to continue plaing ogu and the forest
You should try Ballionaire its similar to peglin. Just got it, its pretty fun.
Is there an advantage to connecting a rig directly to a pocket, as opposed to making a node in between so that it's easier to branch off and/or close off the node to keep the pocket isolated?
3:15 this land was made for you (and me/him/her/everyone)
I like this game.
In that second game, could you not connect them all through the bottom to get to the two triple pipes? Like, over the magma to the trident, then from the trident to the asshole pockets?
Uncover the whole map with one big scan then you can plan it out better
Please make a video on the shotgun king update!
Does the game not have pause to que up actions or did the original come before many of these management games addes pausing?
holy crap did you install a mod to get insane lands every time?
You know what else is massive?
Love me some turmoil, me.
I love oil
Considered playing Agent A?
Hi Tyler❤
does having bigger pipes make it take more out of pocket?
if not, then using bigger pipes is equivalent to compression of more smaller pipes and pumping from many pipes at once is faster than from one big one imo (connecting the same pocket to more pipes)
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@@darioalegre3836 hey bro
The infrastructure is so ass in the first run. That just doesnt work, you have to pipe the gas through this nonsense somehow. You have to do more joints
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Wouldn't the game become unlosable once you get 50% since nobody else would be able to get a majority share?
Gamies
That intro clip has funny timing, because I told mom that I wanted Sonic Frontiers for Christmas earlir. (I'm grown, but she's the only one with income.)
"This is a HARD HARD game!", mf you're playing expert difficulty and gave the AI a headstart, and proceed to 100% beat them. Hard to do it flawlessly sure, but the difficulty the game comes with is much lower than that
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Day 1516 of telling Tyler that he never finished his minecraft series and that he should finish it.
God i love watching turmoil so much. As an american, all this oil makes me so excited
Day 1476 of agreeing
if ur mom was a oil pocket
Big piping magma does not help. Please make this top comment so that he sees this.
bloons pls
BEFORE 20 MINUTES GANG RISE UP
You aren't getting choke points from smaller pipes, I mean you are but your actual chokepoints are bad node layouts. Having two big pipes to the seller is great and all but the majority of your gas was bottlenecked to one pipe. You had the opportunity to relieve that by making another pipe at the bottom to let more gas through but didn't even mention that. You need to stop making long pipes that have maxed out nodes if you want to have the gas interconnect. Shorter pipes, smarter nodes, only max out a node if you have a way around it or if it's not needed for gas transport
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Actually 3rd😢