GW isnt going anywhere, 3 years of control for a 1000 yd rrciever who never had an oc or QB. It starts at 2 plus 1st rounders to open discussions. No reason for the Jets to move on
For a number of reasons. Not the least of which is that at that price there are multiple teams ahead of the Bucs in the draft that would give up their 1st for Crosby. The 49ers at 11 jump to mind, but they’re not alone. The Cowboys, the Bears, the Cardinals and the Seahawks would all likely be willing to do that deal.
I'm all for Washington going ALL IN. We can boost our cap up to $141m with 2 restructures, 2 extension/renegotiation/ and 1 cut. Then Trade for Garrett($20M) 2 1sts and Pitts($10m)79 for Pitts+117 &244, Retain: Wagner, Ertz, Way, Bates Fowler, Chinn, Mariota, Lucas, & Dyami ($32m) The signing Tee Higgins($30m), Alaric Jackson($16m), Teven Jenkins($10m), Poona Ford($6m) Markquese Bell($1.5m), Laviska Shenault($1.5m) + Davante Adams(who really wants to play with Jayden Daniels) Post June 1st on an OBJ-Rams $3m deal with incentive.
Pay attention to this line. Garrett’s number one goal was always to be the NFL defensive player of the year. It is well documented here in Cleveland. In print and on record. You sign a contract, grow up and honor that. He and Watson can board the very next train.
Ballard and Steichen jobs are directly connected to whether AR is good or not in year 3. They aren’t even thinking of trading him. If he’s not good they’re fired. They’re not saving their job with Darnold or something. They can bring in someone like Fields to compete.
Figured off season is the time to get my comment seen- idk why I just thought of this, but when yall do your weekly rankings in-season id love if you skip thru like the top 30 WRs pretty quickly because those guys are gonna get started at all and focus on the guys who are a real part of many start/sit decisions?
@@JoshandHaydenOn a similar note, maybe do the onesie position videos (QB especially) earlier in the week before WR/RB because those are the positions where people are more likely to be streaming their starters and where start-worthy players are more likely to be available for pickup?
As a rams fan, this hurts. But the writing was on the wall with his cap hit. Love my cooper Kupp forever. Second pick of the sean McVay era, and he’s on his way out😢 maybe F them picks and we trade for Myles Garrett or Garrett Wilson
If the browns trade Garret i would take Carter with the #2 pick and the best available edge rusher with the pick they get. Can still have a dominant defensive line
@@ethanbeckerman6901 lmao. You should have someone explain to you what jokes are. And kudos to you for having 1 whole more sub to your channel than I do to my non-existent channel. Way to go sport. Bravo....
Don’t be surprised if the Browns try and get Watson’s contract voided for failing to follow team guidelines concerning rehabbing his injury, which ended up getting re-aggravated and seems likely to cost him the entire upcoming season. If they can pull that off their cap issues disappear.
The nflpa would never let that happen. To void watsons contract would ironically be a crime. Everyone understands that the browns r trying to get out of a bad contract. The nflpa have been fighting for guarentees contracts for decades. Well, what do u know, a guarentees contract didn’t work out. Management mistakes should not be bailed out
As a raiders fan, I feel much better about Maxx staying now that we've brought in Carroll, and re-signed our DC and Dline coach for next season. Maxx's comments since the hirings have been way more positive. So if he does end up getting traded somehow, I think the compensation will likely be higher since it won't be a trade request situation
Love the CIN shout-out for Pitts. Ultimately they probably bring Gesicki back and roll with their rotation to keep it cheap, but he's the most 1-1 position and use case for sure
The problem with a Miles trade is the Browns are already in CAP hell (from Watson). Trading Miles will trigger additional CAP problems. Two late 1st round picks for Miles is light. My guess is that they do trade Miles, but they get mid 1st round picks, plus a 3rd or 4th. And then they take some painful moves to get under the CAP.
Kupp to Houston seems likely, but not without the Rams agreeing to take on most of his contract. Houston has $3M in cap space and 22 pending free agents.
I agree that Carolina should make a move for a WR. I’d wait until draft night so you have the athletic metrics on a guy like Burden or even Tyler Warren but not getting a weapon for Bryce would be malpractice.
I can't see Wilson to Carolina especially with the 8th pick. I could see Carolina throwing some money at Diggs if healthy and selecting a WR in the 3rd or 4th after taking Defense in round 1.
I know the panthers are not smart with trades but i believe if they trade there first they need to get the jets second back and panthers add a later pick.... That would make this more appealing cause i love bryce young and want to see him have a real weapon outside of a 40 year old dude....
@JoshandHayden I do think Pitts fits that (dare I say it) Hernandez role a lot better in the McDaniels system. Certainly more so than Mayer, but we will have to see what their plan is with Henry. Mayer could be a young replacement for him. The 2 tight end set formations absolutely obliterate most variations of 3-4, and there are plenty of great Ds that leverage 3-4 as their mainstay. So I do see them swinging on someone via trade or going for an Arroyo or Helm in the draft.
@noneexisting258 chip does love his blocking TEs, but has not shown much for making tight ends the focal points in the passing attack. Bowers will (should) change that calculus. However, I think they're better off getting value (4th round ideally) for Mayer and drafting a guy like Hawes in the 6th (he's a quintessential blocking tight end and one you won't have to overpay in 3 years)
Browns need to wait til Next season to trade Garrett, hes under contact for 2 years. Hopefully this motivates the Front Office to get a qb this off-season. If we suck again , Fire everyone and Trade Myles and have way less cap hit and bunch of picks for new GM.
Giants trade back from 3 to 6, get a 2nd and some extra stuff, then trade a package of picks & KT to the Rams for Stafford & Kupp. Schoen & Daboll dont want to risk the make or break season of their career on a rookie QB or a bad bridge QB, LA will cover some of Kupps contract to trade him away, and the Giants have the need and the cap space to cover the incoming money.
Wow the TJ Watt slander is real. "Myles Garrett and Micah Parsons are in a class of their own" Bruh...really that is disrespectful. I am ok with them being in that top class but leaving TJ out just makes me think you know NOTHING about football
Watt is good but not the same athletically as those 2. He's a OLB not an end like those 2 for one so that's likely why they didnt mention him so calm down. Watt gets his sacks from blitzs where theres more then 4 people coming and he's free or only has 1 guy and he already has a running start so he is often free. Also alot of his sacks are coverage sacks. Garrett beats his guy more often, gets there faster, and goes through more people for sacks. Theres a reason for multiple years in a row when GMs say what defensive playerer they'd pick to start a franchise they say Garrett and it's not close and Garrett is on a different level than any other edge.
@@mikephillips1043Parsons is a tweener, not a true edge. Watt has a better RAS score than Parsons, he's a bigger athlete and just as explosive in short areas. Watt and Garrett are fighting it out for the best edge rusher in football.
NO to Myles Garrett for two #1s. He is not worth his salary plus two #1s for two years. Those two #1s in the hands of Adam Peters are GOLD. HOWEVER, if MG is not a problem child and culturally plus, I would consider a heads up trade for Terry MacLaurin. Daniels can make a new receiver great. Meanwhile Browns would have a drawing card they can re-sign if they wish. Request you evaluate this trade and post a video. Or, you might also wish to include an alternative trade, MacLaurin for Micah Parsons.
My Stafford idea would be a trade to Pittsburgh for pick 21 (maybe less maybe more idk). Makes a lot of sense as Pitt is one of the only clearly playoff competitive teams that doesn’t have any sort of answer at QB yet. They’d probably just pick some man cover corner at pick 21 anyway so I think more value would be answering ur QB problem instead of running it back with Russ and being mid again. Plus there’s no real QB of the future option in this draft class too. Stafford could go play there for another year or two and chase another ring. Steelers have plenty of cap room after 25’ to backload some of the deal as well.
@danielcameliojr8814 honestly I like this take but I think the browns would want more or wouldn’t give up that 3rd rounder. Opposite of that the 49ers might be thinking purdy isn’t it if they can’t make the playoffs again next season and they’d need that first round pick in 26 for a qb cause they ain’t getting no one in this barely decent class and next years will be better not crazy better but better overall. Even if not that they might try and get one in 27 but the good ones. The really good ones will be gone if they don’t have a pick till round two. Like the idea tho deebo still good and definitely could be a piece but the qb situation would still need to be better
i wonder what the potential of a middle of the first round team trading up to the 7th pick with the Jags and is and then the jags trading that middle first round pick and some compensatory picks or players for garret wilson would be
Browns aren’t trading him to the Bears unless the Bears give them the #10 this year as the starting point. It’s an advantageous starting point as no team higher than them seem like legitimate contenders for him though.
the number 1 trade i wanted to see (it obviously wont happen now tho after the signing) was: Raiders Send: 2025 Round 2 2026 Round 2 2027 Round 2 Steelers Send: Mike Tomlin HC George Pickens WR
Ive never really understood the Tua hate, I mean just look how the dolphins did this year with and without him. If your concern is injury thats fine, but as a player he has been above average, certainly has proved more than Darnold IMO
Their offense was bad without him bc the offense is designed around his strengths and McDaniel didn’t adjust that after he went down. He can play above average when everything’s working right, just like Darnold, but at his cores he’s mostly just average.
TRADE: Chi#10, DL-Demarcus Walker, RB-Roschon, (could add slot-Tyler Scott-(KR) + 2026-R5-chi/R6-ariz pick swap) Ariz#16, Ariz#47, RB-T.Benson, C-Jon Gaines (if add RFA slot-G.Dortch-(PR) + 2026-R5-chi/R6-ariz pick swap) *WHY? Ariz played James Conner 56.5% of snaps to Trey Benson's shockingly low 12.5% in 13 games. Ariz extended James Conner 2yrs $19m = $9.5m/yr. (the Benson/Roschon swap is nothing to them). Chi gets a faster 3rd down pass blocker for Ben Johnson. Chi#16-HOF center Conerly (w 2026 LT upside if Braxton Jones traded), Chi#39=Trade up late#20's: Scourton/Darius Alexander, #41-Ezeiruaku, #47-Deone Walker
You mentioned the Saints and Carr. Why do people talk like Mickey Loomis’ job is always safe? They’re always over the cap and don’t win. How is that better than what a random fan could do in his position?
@JoshNorris @HaydenWinks If we can consider Aidan Hutchinson an “Edge,” I will have to strongly disagree with you that Garrett and Parsons are in a tier of their own. Unless you are saying that they are in a tier below the best defensive player in the league (Hutchinson). I believe the proof was in the numbers in 2024 prior to Hutchinson’s injury.
The Dallas Mavericks need to post your breakdown of the Cleveland Browns trade just to soften the blow of how bad their trade of Luka was. Just to remind everyone that the Luka trade is only the second. Worst trade in history now.
Miles Garrett traded to the Bills is more likely then the Commanders. He's a fit and the Bills have draft picks to trade and as long as they have Josh Allen at QB they will be SB contender that Mile's is looking for. Miles gets the last word, he has a no trade clause.
Makes more sense for the Bills not the Browns. The skins are more likely to have higher picks in the draft then Buffalo and the browns would prefer trading Garrett to the NFC then AFC so they only play him once every 4yrs. So it's likely neither team unless wash offers 3 1sts or something stupid its more likely then buffalo because they are basically trading 2nd round picks.
He doesnt have a NTC btw. 2yrs left on his deal as well. So browns technically have 4yrs of control on him if you count back to back franchise tags if they choose.
That last trade you talked about for Max Crosby wouldnt happen if that were the price because you best believe that the Cardinals who tried to trade for Max this last trade deadline need a passrusher badly because their top sack guy only got 5 sacks. The defense is the biggest problem on that team and they need a veteran guy to come in that guys would respect and teach the very young but talented front 7 how to take that next step and show them how to be nasty personality while being a team guy and a professional on the field and not causing penalties. With the 16th pick and also being in the NFC and the GM saying the number 1 goal this off-season is to get better pushrushers on that Dline and i believe they would be more then happy to use that first rounder to get a guy to lead that defense. With the over 80 million in cap room, they can also sign other payers to sure up the rest of that defense and a couple spots on offense. Having a defense that can get off the field will take a ton of pressure off Killer Murray from feeling like he has to play a perfect game every week in order to win. Murray and Harrison Jr., i believe, will figure each other out this off-season, so look for Harrison to have a big second year. Having a defense that can give them more time on offense will only help with that next step. With Max Crosby, I see Harrison Jr. Doubling his numbers he had in his rookie season. The young guys on defense will be watching and start to practice and play like Crosby and it only helps the Cards having a great player that is all about his team rather then his own stats and that will help build the culture the Cards want to build.
The cap is an issue the browns literally cant trade him without cutting a starting lineman. So not only donthey not want to trade him they cant donit withojt getting rid of a starter just to move him. So they lose their best player plusntheir starting RT. It makes 0 sense for them regardless of what he wants.
I hate when guys do the lazy thing and bring up Watsons contract when it pertains to the browns doing literally anything. That contract isn’t a hindrance to the teams cap situation the fact is Berry does a million restructures and Myles can’t be traded until after June 1st for a smaller cap hit. Watson is so irrelevant to this situation the point in bringing him up makes no sense. Do a better job
Garret Wilson is worth way more than the 8th pick. He was draft at 10 and now has show he’s not a bust. Value has gone way up despite his production not being elite.
Carr to the Titans makes sense. My opinion they need A Lot. If the opportunity comes up to trade down a for extra picks this year and maybe next too. Great talent in the top 10. Get a QB next year.
Why? To be mediocre? Ride with Levis and be terrible so you can draft a future franchise QB, or more remotely if he actually turns into a player, then you got your guy.
@jasonallen1712 You really think the GM, coaches and players are fine with riding with Levis hoping to be terrible for a top pick or pray he figures it out. That's how people get fired. They have to at least compete. Get a veteran QB and trade back to get more picks.This isn't the draft for a QB with their issues. They're in a tough spot.
Thinking the Browns would trade Garrett for the 29th pick and ANOTHER pick in that range the following year... for the best defensive player in the entire league... is fucking crazy. If they were desperate and needed to trade him sure. They have 2yrs of control (4 if you count franchise tags) at 10mil less then the highest paid DE when they have 2yrs of cap hell to work with. It's going to kill their cap to move him so IFFFFFF they decide to be nice and move him a team would have to basically pay them to do so by over paying. 2 basically early 2nds isn't that. He wants to go to a contender but if he wants traded he will go to who pays them the most. And that might be to a cowboys at 12 which he'd like or a Bears at 9ish. They arent cutting the fucking starting RT and renegotiating multiple players contracts TO TRADE THE BEST PLAYER ON DEFENSE IN THE NFL for 2 early 2nds... I just found this channel and I'm already losing it because God damn yall are clueless.
Khalil Mack was traded in his prime for what wound up being the 24th pick (that became Josh Jacobs) and the 20th pick in '21. This is a very similar situation. Tyreek Hill and Adams both went for late 1sts. Garrett said he wants to go to a contender.... They tend to pick later in the draft. You act as though Cleveland hasn't made bad trades before, when it's the reason they're in this situation.
Why are the 49ers not being talked about as the perfect trade partner for Garrett?! They have the 11th pick and assets to offer, are a contender, and will have cap space even after signing Purdy to an extension. Can even free up more cap space by restructuring Warner and Kittle.
@babyfacewithtaste see!! I agree 49ers have the picks of good value and probably have a piece or 2 for us to use as players PLUS it puts Garrett in the NFC. That is a trade that would make sense for the Browns.
Not even a Saints fan, but that’s a terrible idea to trade Carr. These rookie QBs are trash. I’m not betting on Sanders at all. Maybe Ward can become what Carr is today. And the Saints are not even guaranteed to get one of those 2. And their cap situation is literally always in the red. They obviously feel comfortable there otherwise they would’ve fixed that situation years ago. You don’t fix it with moving your QB.
With as many needs the panthers have on defense I just can't see trading our 1st pick for Garret. As much as I want him and Bryce needs the weapon absolutely. We need safety, edge, di, and corner along with a true 1 wr.
Agreed. Plus, y'all's offense looked solid down the stretch. With what is quietly a good offensive line, and Brooks potentially getting healthy and taking a step forward, it might just become a run heavy, PA dominant offense that may not require a true #1 weapon in the passing game, but instead a great 1-2 punch with Hubbard. Also, I don't know if Garrett would consider Carolina his best chance to win a SB at this point, no offense. Things are definitely looking up though.
@zackhurwitz9441 I like this approach and honestly it would be true to what Dave said his vision was. The only issue is Brooks reinjured the same ACL and though he had surgery in late January, Dave already said he'll be on ice pretty much all of the 2025 season. We also don't have a lot of cap space this year either so I'm not sure we can afford to pick up Tee in FA. Truly not sure of the direction in this situation with so many needs to fill. Sanders will mostly likely stay since Brooks got injured. There is Cooper Kupp but he's 31 and not as fast anymore. Now we could trade back to say 13-14 with such a deep edge class this year and pick up an early 2nd round WR. Will be interesting watching Dave and Dan work.
@@wardog211 vikings are projected to take an rb and jets need a qb. They might want to stick with Darnold after last year, but ya its something I would like for my fantasy team too
They wouldn't trade post June because whatever picks you get for him you dont know where they will be picking at and most importantly you dont get pieces to use NOW you get something for next year and something 2yrs from now.
They would get a penalty if they did it before that, which would require them to jettison money to get under the cap, but if they want to maximize what they get for Garrett a pre draft or draft day trade will be required. Cap space only really matters in terms of how it allows you to compete. The Browns are not competing this season or the next, so that hit doesn’t mean much to them. Having space in ‘27 will be their focus when it comes to their cap. In the immediate it’s about maximizing what they get for Garrett.
@dcaslick not accurate at all. They are still trying to win they feel they are a QB away from the playoffs which they are. They have a top end defense but their offense kept turning it over on the wrong side or had so many 3 and outs the D would get too tired to stop them. Theres a reason many picked them to win the division last year. With a top 15 QB they are a playoff team. Yes 27' is the year they can really go balls deep they are still trying next year. And likely they won't move Garrett because the cap unless someone GREATLY overpays making it worth it. They won't make a trade for what's basically 2 early 2nds for a 1st ballot HOF.
Really Garrett Wilson for eighth pick Davante Adams, which is a Hall of Famer is better than Garrett Wilson. It was only traded for a third round pick you people don’t know anything.
Wait Luka Doncic traded for peanuts??? Luca is injured he's gained 45 lbs and they got Anthony Davis and another player . It was just set up the Lakers now will not make the playoffs🎉 and now the Mavericks have a better chance of winning this season and maybe next
Off season content arguably better than in-season content because we get to watch Josh and Hayden flex their football minds
As a panthers fans, I would love Garrett Wilson as my WR1
GW isnt going anywhere, 3 years of control for a 1000 yd rrciever who never had an oc or QB. It starts at 2 plus 1st rounders to open discussions. No reason for the Jets to move on
the prospect of Bryce throwing up GW is so tantalizing!!!
@@TonydaGMhe can force his way out. obviously the Jets don’t want to trade him but he definitely doesn’t want to keep wasting his career
@iceTristan_ he can't force anything, he can not get paid he has 3 years of controll
@dougbrown8926 not happening
The Raiders trading Max feels like the least likely move of the bunch
Also the 19th pick is way too little
For a number of reasons. Not the least of which is that at that price there are multiple teams ahead of the Bucs in the draft that would give up their 1st for Crosby. The 49ers at 11 jump to mind, but they’re not alone. The Cowboys, the Bears, the Cardinals and the Seahawks would all likely be willing to do that deal.
Maxx crosby is worth more than garrett wilson 🤷♂️ but ok
I'm all for Washington going ALL IN.
We can boost our cap up to $141m with 2 restructures, 2 extension/renegotiation/ and 1 cut. Then
Trade for Garrett($20M) 2 1sts and Pitts($10m)79 for Pitts+117 &244,
Retain: Wagner, Ertz, Way, Bates Fowler, Chinn, Mariota, Lucas, & Dyami ($32m)
The signing Tee Higgins($30m), Alaric Jackson($16m), Teven Jenkins($10m), Poona Ford($6m) Markquese Bell($1.5m), Laviska Shenault($1.5m) + Davante Adams(who really wants to play with Jayden Daniels) Post June 1st on an OBJ-Rams $3m deal with incentive.
This is impressive and exciting to read!
Thank you for your effort in this post!
RAISE HAIL
Bears fan here and Tevin Jenkins is likely getting 15mil/year contract. Not 10mil. We would’ve kept him easily for 10mil.
@@arodalan3961 Spotrac has him at $10m, if we only add 1 FA OL he'd be the one.
Garrett / Hutchinson would be LIT!
True story
Pay attention to this line. Garrett’s number one goal was always to be the NFL defensive player of the year. It is well documented here in Cleveland. In print and on record. You sign a contract, grow up and honor that. He and Watson can board the very next train.
Nobody gonna let Watson on their train….
Ballard and Steichen jobs are directly connected to whether AR is good or not in year 3. They aren’t even thinking of trading him. If he’s not good they’re fired. They’re not saving their job with Darnold or something. They can bring in someone like Fields to compete.
Figured off season is the time to get my comment seen- idk why I just thought of this, but when yall do your weekly rankings in-season id love if you skip thru like the top 30 WRs pretty quickly because those guys are gonna get started at all and focus on the guys who are a real part of many start/sit decisions?
This is something I have thought about fixing. If we add some talent to the show by the season, then this will get fixed. - Hayden
@@JoshandHaydenOn a similar note, maybe do the onesie position videos (QB especially) earlier in the week before WR/RB because those are the positions where people are more likely to be streaming their starters and where start-worthy players are more likely to be available for pickup?
As a rams fan, this hurts. But the writing was on the wall with his cap hit. Love my cooper Kupp forever. Second pick of the sean McVay era, and he’s on his way out😢 maybe F them picks and we trade for Myles Garrett or Garrett Wilson
What about Myles Garrett Wilson
Garrett Wilson isn’t leaving the jets bruh 😂😂😂😂
If the browns trade Garret i would take Carter with the #2 pick and the best available edge rusher with the pick they get. Can still have a dominant defensive line
Been wanting Andrews on the Chargers ever since Herbert absolutely peppered him in the 2022 pro bowl.
He'd be perfect on the Chargers since he choked in the playoffs too!
@@michaelbeale559 Run along troll. Work on your channel and your lone subscriber. Which is probably your mom.
@@CaliBorn73 learn to take a joke bro. Also maybe don’t use subs as an insult when you don’t have any
@@ethanbeckerman6901 lmao. You should have someone explain to you what jokes are. And kudos to you for having 1 whole more sub to your channel than I do to my non-existent channel. Way to go sport. Bravo....
Feminine energy
The trades were not for my team but I still found them really exciting being a fan of the game! Great fellas!
I would love to see an established Edge like Crosby in Tampa. Having someone on the opposite side would likely open Yaya up for a big year as well.
I’ve been itching for you guys to upload
Don’t be surprised if the Browns try and get Watson’s contract voided for failing to follow team guidelines concerning rehabbing his injury, which ended up getting re-aggravated and seems likely to cost him the entire upcoming season. If they can pull that off their cap issues disappear.
The nflpa would never let that happen. To void watsons contract would ironically be a crime. Everyone understands that the browns r trying to get out of a bad contract. The nflpa have been fighting for guarentees contracts for decades. Well, what do u know, a guarentees contract didn’t work out. Management mistakes should not be bailed out
What a fantastic video! Great job gentlemen!
As a raiders fan, I feel much better about Maxx staying now that we've brought in Carroll, and re-signed our DC and Dline coach for next season. Maxx's comments since the hirings have been way more positive. So if he does end up getting traded somehow, I think the compensation will likely be higher since it won't be a trade request situation
Love the CIN shout-out for Pitts. Ultimately they probably bring Gesicki back and roll with their rotation to keep it cheap, but he's the most 1-1 position and use case for sure
my guy Emo
The problem with a Miles trade is the Browns are already in CAP hell (from Watson). Trading Miles will trigger additional CAP problems. Two late 1st round picks for Miles is light. My guess is that they do trade Miles, but they get mid 1st round picks, plus a 3rd or 4th. And then they take some painful moves to get under the CAP.
Kupp to Houston seems likely, but not without the Rams agreeing to take on most of his contract. Houston has $3M in cap space and 22 pending free agents.
Wow, that is a pretty disastrous situation
i NEED Garrett Wilson to be a Panther! Dude would love it here
I agree that Carolina should make a move for a WR. I’d wait until draft night so you have the athletic metrics on a guy like Burden or even Tyler Warren but not getting a weapon for Bryce would be malpractice.
I can't see Wilson to Carolina especially with the 8th pick. I could see Carolina throwing some money at Diggs if healthy and selecting a WR in the 3rd or 4th after taking Defense in round 1.
@@johns.9214Chris Godwin makes sense as well
LFG boys. Super Bowl week 🎉
I remember I saw this title and passed quickly, then I saw whose video it is. I’m baaack lol
I know the panthers are not smart with trades but i believe if they trade there first they need to get the jets second back and panthers add a later pick.... That would make this more appealing cause i love bryce young and want to see him have a real weapon outside of a 40 year old dude....
The rumor is our Godwin is going to the Raiders following Speil tech and if not, T Higgins will be there next number one option
Minnesota Vikings should sign Sam Darnold and then trade him to the Cleveland Browns for Myles Garrett and whatever minor draft compensation to help.
He wants to win a Super Bowl not watching
Patriots acquire Michael Mayer for a 2025 4th. Mcdaniels selected him. He still has upside. Good possession guy
This is a great take
@JoshandHayden I do think Pitts fits that (dare I say it) Hernandez role a lot better in the McDaniels system. Certainly more so than Mayer, but we will have to see what their plan is with Henry. Mayer could be a young replacement for him. The 2 tight end set formations absolutely obliterate most variations of 3-4, and there are plenty of great Ds that leverage 3-4 as their mainstay. So I do see them swinging on someone via trade or going for an Arroyo or Helm in the draft.
We art trading Mayer at all he’s a big part of our plan and we didn’t get to put that plan into play last year
@noneexisting258 chip does love his blocking TEs, but has not shown much for making tight ends the focal points in the passing attack. Bowers will (should) change that calculus. However, I think they're better off getting value (4th round ideally) for Mayer and drafting a guy like Hawes in the 6th (he's a quintessential blocking tight end and one you won't have to overpay in 3 years)
Underdog coming to the UK would be a great move also 🏈 🐶 🐕 🦮 🐩 👍
Browns need to wait til Next season to trade Garrett, hes under contact for 2 years. Hopefully this motivates the Front Office to get a qb this off-season. If we suck again , Fire everyone and Trade Myles and have way less cap hit and bunch of picks for new GM.
Every year they wait they're losing value with him. Browns are going to suck next year especially in that division, sell him before he hits 30
Can’t trade a 30 year old in the least year of his deal for a bunch of picks
Giants trade back from 3 to 6, get a 2nd and some extra stuff, then trade a package of picks & KT to the Rams for Stafford & Kupp. Schoen & Daboll dont want to risk the make or break season of their career on a rookie QB or a bad bridge QB, LA will cover some of Kupps contract to trade him away, and the Giants have the need and the cap space to cover the incoming money.
Wow the TJ Watt slander is real. "Myles Garrett and Micah Parsons are in a class of their own" Bruh...really that is disrespectful. I am ok with them being in that top class but leaving TJ out just makes me think you know NOTHING about football
I said the same thing
I’m sure they just forgot to mention him, calm down nerd
Watt is good but not the same athletically as those 2. He's a OLB not an end like those 2 for one so that's likely why they didnt mention him so calm down. Watt gets his sacks from blitzs where theres more then 4 people coming and he's free or only has 1 guy and he already has a running start so he is often free. Also alot of his sacks are coverage sacks. Garrett beats his guy more often, gets there faster, and goes through more people for sacks. Theres a reason for multiple years in a row when GMs say what defensive playerer they'd pick to start a franchise they say Garrett and it's not close and Garrett is on a different level than any other edge.
steelers fans always with the victim complex about tj watt bruh stop making it about you
@@mikephillips1043Parsons is a tweener, not a true edge. Watt has a better RAS score than Parsons, he's a bigger athlete and just as explosive in short areas. Watt and Garrett are fighting it out for the best edge rusher in football.
Andrew’s to LAC would be sick. But I am praying that Tyler Warren falls to them somehow. Ladd and Warren would be godly
Chargers are going Loveland or Grant, whoever is there
no way rams trade kupp for only a 4th round pick
What about Kyle pitts to Washington?
NO to Myles Garrett for two #1s. He is not worth his salary plus two #1s for two years. Those two #1s in the hands of Adam Peters are GOLD.
HOWEVER, if MG is not a problem child and culturally plus, I would consider a heads up trade for Terry MacLaurin. Daniels can make a new receiver great. Meanwhile Browns would have a drawing card they can re-sign if they wish.
Request you evaluate this trade and post a video.
Or, you might also wish to include an alternative trade, MacLaurin for Micah Parsons.
My Stafford idea would be a trade to Pittsburgh for pick 21 (maybe less maybe more idk). Makes a lot of sense as Pitt is one of the only clearly playoff competitive teams that doesn’t have any sort of answer at QB yet. They’d probably just pick some man cover corner at pick 21 anyway so I think more value would be answering ur QB problem instead of running it back with Russ and being mid again. Plus there’s no real QB of the future option in this draft class too. Stafford could go play there for another year or two and chase another ring. Steelers have plenty of cap room after 25’ to backload some of the deal as well.
They wouldn’t give up a first for Stafford. Considering he may retire any year from now.
Deebo Samuel to the browns plus 2026 and 2027 first for Myles Garrett and browns 3rd round pick
@danielcameliojr8814 honestly I like this take but I think the browns would want more or wouldn’t give up that 3rd rounder. Opposite of that the 49ers might be thinking purdy isn’t it if they can’t make the playoffs again next season and they’d need that first round pick in 26 for a qb cause they ain’t getting no one in this barely decent class and next years will be better not crazy better but better overall. Even if not that they might try and get one in 27 but the good ones. The really good ones will be gone if they don’t have a pick till round two. Like the idea tho deebo still good and definitely could be a piece but the qb situation would still need to be better
i wonder what the potential of a middle of the first round team trading up to the 7th pick with the Jags and is and then the jags trading that middle first round pick and some compensatory picks or players for garret wilson would be
Myles Garrett to CHI for:
2025: 2nd rd pick,3rd rd pick,6th rd pick
2026: 1st rd pick ,2nd rd pick 🐻
You'd have to give them #10 this year too. 2 first rounders is the starting point.
Browns aren’t trading him to the Bears unless the Bears give them the #10 this year as the starting point. It’s an advantageous starting point as no team higher than them seem like legitimate contenders for him though.
Garrett can watch the Super Bowl from Cleveland 😂 the point is to play in one
At 36:50, Josh says Andrews is entering his age 39 season. Just a fun little bit.
Aged 10 years after that drop
the number 1 trade i wanted to see (it obviously wont happen now tho after the signing) was:
Raiders Send:
2025 Round 2
2026 Round 2
2027 Round 2
Steelers Send:
Mike Tomlin HC
George Pickens WR
💀💀
@ Raiders needed a HC & Pickens/Jakobi/Bowers is a great trio for whoever they decide is there QB of the future
@ raiders don’t need a head coach and if you think a mid coach is worth 3 2nds then you are smoking the craziest crack ever
Ive never really understood the Tua hate, I mean just look how the dolphins did this year with and without him. If your concern is injury thats fine, but as a player he has been above average, certainly has proved more than Darnold IMO
Their offense was bad without him bc the offense is designed around his strengths and McDaniel didn’t adjust that after he went down. He can play above average when everything’s working right, just like Darnold, but at his cores he’s mostly just average.
TRADE:
Chi#10, DL-Demarcus Walker, RB-Roschon, (could add slot-Tyler Scott-(KR) + 2026-R5-chi/R6-ariz pick swap)
Ariz#16, Ariz#47, RB-T.Benson, C-Jon Gaines (if add RFA slot-G.Dortch-(PR) + 2026-R5-chi/R6-ariz pick swap)
*WHY?
Ariz played James Conner 56.5% of snaps to Trey Benson's shockingly low 12.5% in 13 games.
Ariz extended James Conner 2yrs $19m = $9.5m/yr. (the Benson/Roschon swap is nothing to them).
Chi gets a faster 3rd down pass blocker for Ben Johnson.
Chi#16-HOF center Conerly (w 2026 LT upside if Braxton Jones traded),
Chi#39=Trade up late#20's: Scourton/Darius Alexander, #41-Ezeiruaku, #47-Deone Walker
You mentioned the Saints and Carr. Why do people talk like Mickey Loomis’ job is always safe? They’re always over the cap and don’t win. How is that better than what a random fan could do in his position?
I will happily take Garrett Wilson as a Panthers fan
Please let Carr to Giants/ anyone be a thing!
🤞🏽🙏🏽⚜️
Hendrickson never gets the respect he deserves even though he led sacks again.
@JoshNorris @HaydenWinks If we can consider Aidan Hutchinson an “Edge,” I will have to strongly disagree with you that Garrett and Parsons are in a tier of their own. Unless you are saying that they are in a tier below the best defensive player in the league (Hutchinson). I believe the proof was in the numbers in 2024 prior to Hutchinson’s injury.
Kyle Pitts to the Chargers could be nice
If Tet isn't available panthers should defs trade for Wilson. All the edge guys after Abdul are a reach @ pick 8 imo and a high chance of being a bust
I completely disagree that panthers should trade #8 for Wilson. We need picks to build out the roster, trading back is the ideal scenario imo
The Dallas Mavericks need to post your breakdown of the Cleveland Browns trade just to soften the blow of how bad their trade of Luka was. Just to remind everyone that the Luka trade is only the second. Worst trade in history now.
Will be nearly impossible to be worse in our life times
The Green Bay Packers trade WR Romeo Dhoubs to the Baltimore Ravens.
As a Steelers fan I would feel horrible for for Kupp if he got traded here. Arthur Smith would ruin him and find a way to make it Kupps fault
If the Jets are moving on from Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams, I will trade Davante Adams to the Panthers and just move on from Rogers
Joe Thuney to NE for a 3rd or 4th. NE needs a culture guy and stud on their line. Chiefs get cap relief to re-sign Tre Smith.
Miles Garrett traded to the Bills is more likely then the Commanders. He's a fit and the Bills have draft picks to trade and as long as they have Josh Allen at QB they will be SB contender that Mile's is looking for. Miles gets the last word, he has a no trade clause.
Makes more sense for the Bills not the Browns. The skins are more likely to have higher picks in the draft then Buffalo and the browns would prefer trading Garrett to the NFC then AFC so they only play him once every 4yrs. So it's likely neither team unless wash offers 3 1sts or something stupid its more likely then buffalo because they are basically trading 2nd round picks.
He doesnt have a NTC btw. 2yrs left on his deal as well. So browns technically have 4yrs of control on him if you count back to back franchise tags if they choose.
That last trade you talked about for Max Crosby wouldnt happen if that were the price because you best believe that the Cardinals who tried to trade for Max this last trade deadline need a passrusher badly because their top sack guy only got 5 sacks. The defense is the biggest problem on that team and they need a veteran guy to come in that guys would respect and teach the very young but talented front 7 how to take that next step and show them how to be nasty personality while being a team guy and a professional on the field and not causing penalties. With the 16th pick and also being in the NFC and the GM saying the number 1 goal this off-season is to get better pushrushers on that Dline and i believe they would be more then happy to use that first rounder to get a guy to lead that defense. With the over 80 million in cap room, they can also sign other payers to sure up the rest of that defense and a couple spots on offense. Having a defense that can get off the field will take a ton of pressure off Killer Murray from feeling like he has to play a perfect game every week in order to win. Murray and Harrison Jr., i believe, will figure each other out this off-season, so look for Harrison to have a big second year. Having a defense that can give them more time on offense will only help with that next step. With Max Crosby, I see Harrison Jr. Doubling his numbers he had in his rookie season. The young guys on defense will be watching and start to practice and play like Crosby and it only helps the Cards having a great player that is all about his team rather then his own stats and that will help build the culture the Cards want to build.
Why not just sign Tannehill if you think Carr is the answer?
Or Dalton tbh
The cap hit isn't an issue. If you trade Garrett, you're rebuilding, so that's when you take your medicine. Look to the Broncos this past year.
The cap is an issue the browns literally cant trade him without cutting a starting lineman. So not only donthey not want to trade him they cant donit withojt getting rid of a starter just to move him. So they lose their best player plusntheir starting RT. It makes 0 sense for them regardless of what he wants.
Football democracy docket with josh(aggrevate) & hating(hayden)
Occupy democracy football not so enthusediest.
I ❤️ these guys names purrfect.🐱
I hate when guys do the lazy thing and bring up Watsons contract when it pertains to the browns doing literally anything. That contract isn’t a hindrance to the teams cap situation the fact is Berry does a million restructures and Myles can’t be traded until after June 1st for a smaller cap hit. Watson is so irrelevant to this situation the point in bringing him up makes no sense. Do a better job
Garret Wilson is worth way more than the 8th pick. He was draft at 10 and now has show he’s not a bust. Value has gone way up despite his production not being elite.
There is not a single team in the NFL that is giving up a top 10 pick for garrett wilson, except the raiders maybe
@@davidbrown36Pats
Carr to the Titans makes sense. My opinion they need A Lot. If the opportunity comes up to trade down a for extra picks this year and maybe next too. Great talent in the top 10. Get a QB next year.
Why? To be mediocre? Ride with Levis and be terrible so you can draft a future franchise QB, or more remotely if he actually turns into a player, then you got your guy.
@jasonallen1712 You really think the GM, coaches and players are fine with riding with Levis hoping to be terrible for a top pick or pray he figures it out. That's how people get fired. They have to at least compete. Get a veteran QB and trade back to get more picks.This isn't the draft for a QB with their issues. They're in a tough spot.
#142 would be incredible.
I thought we’d have to throw in a 7th...
Thinking the Browns would trade Garrett for the 29th pick and ANOTHER pick in that range the following year... for the best defensive player in the entire league... is fucking crazy. If they were desperate and needed to trade him sure. They have 2yrs of control (4 if you count franchise tags) at 10mil less then the highest paid DE when they have 2yrs of cap hell to work with. It's going to kill their cap to move him so IFFFFFF they decide to be nice and move him a team would have to basically pay them to do so by over paying. 2 basically early 2nds isn't that. He wants to go to a contender but if he wants traded he will go to who pays them the most. And that might be to a cowboys at 12 which he'd like or a Bears at 9ish. They arent cutting the fucking starting RT and renegotiating multiple players contracts TO TRADE THE BEST PLAYER ON DEFENSE IN THE NFL for 2 early 2nds... I just found this channel and I'm already losing it because God damn yall are clueless.
Relax dude. Hayden said negotiations begin with 2 firsts. Garrett will almost certainly require much more than that
Khalil Mack was traded in his prime for what wound up being the 24th pick (that became Josh Jacobs) and the 20th pick in '21. This is a very similar situation. Tyreek Hill and Adams both went for late 1sts.
Garrett said he wants to go to a contender.... They tend to pick later in the draft. You act as though Cleveland hasn't made bad trades before, when it's the reason they're in this situation.
Why are the 49ers not being talked about as the perfect trade partner for Garrett?! They have the 11th pick and assets to offer, are a contender, and will have cap space even after signing Purdy to an extension. Can even free up more cap space by restructuring Warner and Kittle.
@babyfacewithtaste see!! I agree 49ers have the picks of good value and probably have a piece or 2 for us to use as players PLUS it puts Garrett in the NFC. That is a trade that would make sense for the Browns.
Not even a Saints fan, but that’s a terrible idea to trade Carr. These rookie QBs are trash. I’m not betting on Sanders at all. Maybe Ward can become what Carr is today. And the Saints are not even guaranteed to get one of those 2. And their cap situation is literally always in the red. They obviously feel comfortable there otherwise they would’ve fixed that situation years ago. You don’t fix it with moving your QB.
No Kupp trade without a contract rework, especially to Houston, who has no cap space
With as many needs the panthers have on defense I just can't see trading our 1st pick for Garret. As much as I want him and Bryce needs the weapon absolutely. We need safety, edge, di, and corner along with a true 1 wr.
Agreed.
Plus, y'all's offense looked solid down the stretch. With what is quietly a good offensive line, and Brooks potentially getting healthy and taking a step forward, it might just become a run heavy, PA dominant offense that may not require a true #1 weapon in the passing game, but instead a great 1-2 punch with Hubbard.
Also, I don't know if Garrett would consider Carolina his best chance to win a SB at this point, no offense. Things are definitely looking up though.
@zackhurwitz9441 I like this approach and honestly it would be true to what Dave said his vision was. The only issue is Brooks reinjured the same ACL and though he had surgery in late January, Dave already said he'll be on ice pretty much all of the 2025 season. We also don't have a lot of cap space this year either so I'm not sure we can afford to pick up Tee in FA.
Truly not sure of the direction in this situation with so many needs to fill. Sanders will mostly likely stay since Brooks got injured. There is Cooper Kupp but he's 31 and not as fast anymore. Now we could trade back to say 13-14 with such a deep edge class this year and pick up an early 2nd round WR. Will be interesting watching Dave and Dan work.
Would love it if saints trade carr but don't think they will
saying parsons and garrett are in a class of their own without mentioning watt is absurd.
Crosby said he want to stay in Vegas, when i remember the right way.
Why would any team trade for that contract from Kupp? Rams are going to cut him and teams know that.
Chargers got a 4th for Keenan Allen on his big money contract
@@wardog211 Allen had showed he still had it though. Kupp is coming off 3 years of not doing much but getting injured. There is a massive difference
They're paying a portion of his salary this year to facilitate a trade.
@@galaxyolden3732 If the Rams did that, it will certainly make teams more interested.
Myles Garret and tee Higgins to jets then we draft will howard and win the Super Bowl in two years 🤙🏾
No one is giving up a 4th for Kupp lol. A 5th is the absolute best they’ll land
Devante Adams will go to KC,BUF or WAS
Breece hall for jj McCarthy
That’s a fantasy football trade idea this is real life
@@wardog211 vikings are projected to take an rb and jets need a qb. They might want to stick with Darnold after last year, but ya its something I would like for my fantasy team too
If the rams have to cut kupp they are more likely to just keep him
Doesn't Cleveland save a bunch against the cap if they trade him post June 1st?
They wouldn't trade post June because whatever picks you get for him you dont know where they will be picking at and most importantly you dont get pieces to use NOW you get something for next year and something 2yrs from now.
They would get a penalty if they did it before that, which would require them to jettison money to get under the cap, but if they want to maximize what they get for Garrett a pre draft or draft day trade will be required. Cap space only really matters in terms of how it allows you to compete. The Browns are not competing this season or the next, so that hit doesn’t mean much to them. Having space in ‘27 will be their focus when it comes to their cap. In the immediate it’s about maximizing what they get for Garrett.
@dcaslick not accurate at all. They are still trying to win they feel they are a QB away from the playoffs which they are. They have a top end defense but their offense kept turning it over on the wrong side or had so many 3 and outs the D would get too tired to stop them. Theres a reason many picked them to win the division last year. With a top 15 QB they are a playoff team. Yes 27' is the year they can really go balls deep they are still trying next year. And likely they won't move Garrett because the cap unless someone GREATLY overpays making it worth it. They won't make a trade for what's basically 2 early 2nds for a 1st ballot HOF.
Howie will probably wind up getting Myles. Eagles type of move.
Miles to the Seahawks makes more sense...the NFC and the NFC west in particular is weak.
Like the Commands did, the Browns should start from scratch and clean house, it can’t get any worse.
Washington getting Myles and Pitts or Godwin.
Tua elevated mike mcdaniels more than mcdaniels elevated Tua, Mcdonald's is not winning with that O-line and any quarterback😂
Both mid af
DaVante Adams to the Chargers for a 2nd rd pick
GARRET to the bills Kupp to the pats
Maxx Crosby going no where, Pete Caroll and Spytek are saying it already.
Kupp to chargers? I would like to see it.
Garrett is going to the giants in a deal for the 1.03. Then the Browns will get Hunter & Sanders at 2 & 3
Giants would have an elite front 7 and get additional draft capital back. Browns have the tandem and the makings of a reasonably exciting offense
Giants could also eat that Watson contract in that deal
The Giants 😂
No one said the new team has to give Myles a new contract.
Hooper and Hunter are solid. I’m not interested in Pitts
Bills need myles garett or max crosby
Really Garrett Wilson for eighth pick Davante Adams, which is a Hall of Famer is better than Garrett Wilson. It was only traded for a third round pick you people don’t know anything.
Ya Crosby isn’t getting traded and even if he did raiders wouldn’t ask for no less than 2 first or a first and more
Kupp to the Broncos 👀 lfg
Packers would welcome Crosby or Garret this off season. Knowing gut...it won't happen 😢
Max is not going anywhere he even just said it
Texans lacked health so Kupp is the answer lmao?!
Pitts to the Chiefs!!
Wait Luka Doncic traded for peanuts???
Luca is injured he's gained 45 lbs and they got Anthony Davis and another player . It was just set up the Lakers now will not make the playoffs🎉 and now the Mavericks have a better chance of winning this season and maybe next