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  • @lanceareadbhar
    @lanceareadbhar Рік тому +32

    The weather has been great for EV ranges. I'd love to see how the Ioniq 6 SE models with the 18 inch wheels do in this weather.

  • @gregpochet4812
    @gregpochet4812 Рік тому +12

    Agree with you about the range going to "LOW". I have a Bolt EUV and I hate that.

  • @heathwirt8919
    @heathwirt8919 Рік тому +13

    The EV competition heats up, great to see and looking forward to more upcoming models being tested.

  • @mustnoor
    @mustnoor Рік тому +10

    I have to say the car really looks nice in black. I think it is the best looking EV out today

  • @kobiel.2174
    @kobiel.2174 Рік тому +30

    Just received my Lyriq a few days ago and I love it!

    • @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
      @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Рік тому +4

      Congratulations!

    • @FoamCrusher
      @FoamCrusher Рік тому +5

      How long were you on the waiting list? Is it a 2023 Debut Edition? My 2023 DE order was rolled over to a 2024 Lux 2 AWD and have been waiting 13 months. Still the dealer has no idea when my car will arrive 😡.
      While others have dropped off the list, I’m going to wait since all reviews I have read say it is worth the wait.

    • @jakehager1041
      @jakehager1041 4 місяці тому

      Lyriqs are great

    • @WadjasayCannatearya
      @WadjasayCannatearya 2 місяці тому

      @@FoamCrusher I ordered my 2024 Sport 3 AWD Lyriq at the end of November 2022. It is now mid April 2024 and I got a call from the dealer yesterday that my vehicle has FINALLY been invoiced by the factory. They say that means it will be about 2-3 weeks until they have it. It was on a parts hold since December 2023. I can't wait. There is a 60A 240V circuit in the garage from when I had a MIG welder there, so its spot is waiting...

    • @FoamCrusher
      @FoamCrusher 2 місяці тому

      @@WadjasayCannatearya Congratulations! I finally gave up and found a Jan 19, 2024 built Lux 3 AWD with 20” wheels (factory deletion with $1000 credit) at a dealer 80 miles away. And it was not packed with every factory option the dealer could order which was common on the other Lux 3’s I saw. What finally push me to buy it, was that was delivered a day before my COSTCO $1000 credit was due to expire on March 1. I found out later that the car I ordered was delivered to the dealer about March 18 on a Dec 31, 2023 build from my original May 25, 2022 ordered DE.
      With all of the credits (GM Ultium Promise, GM Private Offer, wheel size deletion and COSTCO) it was only a little more expensive than the Lux 2 that I had originally ordered and had more features. I only had to compromise on the interior color. Now I just have to see if I can keep the almost white seats clean.
      Was it worth the wait? Absolutely. Would I choose to go through that GM information blackout and secrecy again? Absolutely not.
      You will really enjoy the car. Head turning style, quiet luxury with plenty of power. There is nothing on the market even close to its MSRP that can match it.

  • @danchen6783
    @danchen6783 Рік тому +18

    This tracks well with our experience. My dad got a RWD Lyriq and routinely gets a 330-350 mile range estimate. We are in CA and in ideal climate conditions. And he drives more city than hwy. Having said that, the Lyriq seems to be more conservative than my Bolt (I've had 2 - 2017 and 2020). Bolt is usually spot on its EPA for me. The Lyriq has never been below for us. Friends' Teslas are always lower than EPA in my area.

    • @letsgobrandon5800
      @letsgobrandon5800 Рік тому +2

      My Bolt was spot on as well on EPA range. Much better than my Tesla, which way overestimated range.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Рік тому

      Same with my gen 2 Volt, it will vary a bit depending if I have been doing more city or highway driving though. It's nice to have the backup generator even though I almost never use it.

    • @gaviriajj
      @gaviriajj Рік тому +3

      The correct metric is not RANGE, it's Watt hours per mile. Just like on ICE cars the correct metric is MPG, not how far you can drive on one tank. Geez the ignorance here.

    • @dansanger5340
      @dansanger5340 Рік тому +4

      @@gaviriajj No, it's nothing like ICE cars. The difference is the charging infrastructure, which is not yet ubiquitous like gas stations. On an ICE vehicle, you know you're always within a short distance of a gas station, so you have the luxury to care more about MPG. With an EV, you care more about making it to the next charging station, which might be 50 or 100 miles away. So, until they build out the charging infrastructure, range is what you care about on an EV road trip.

    • @chefcooksfantasy9721
      @chefcooksfantasy9721 11 місяців тому

      how's this car in the winter during all the snow and storms

  • @blubaru09
    @blubaru09 Рік тому +18

    Tom- I appreciate all the time and effort that you put into these tests, plus the editing!

  • @8bajwa8
    @8bajwa8 Рік тому +12

    Great review. Was waiting for this for long time. Got 2k Miles in 4 weeks on my Lyriq. Did 1300 mile road trip 8k feet elevation climb twice temp from 80 to 110 4 passengers full loaded trunk mostly hwy driving around 75mph averaged 2.7 miles per kw.

    • @kenhiett5266
      @kenhiett5266 Рік тому

      Is yours the 2wd version as well?

    • @8bajwa8
      @8bajwa8 Рік тому +1

      @@kenhiett5266 yes same specs as one Tom tested but black interior.

  • @jamesjones7698
    @jamesjones7698 11 місяців тому +3

    I’ve had my Debut Edition since September. I have over 12,000 miles, and the vehicle has been a dream. The Super Cruise, and the vehicle, sets a new standard!

    • @05gauravs
      @05gauravs 11 місяців тому

      Hi, Have you ever tried Tesla's FSD? I am looking for honest comparison if you ever had an opportunity to try the FSD. Thanks.

  • @illtrill
    @illtrill Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the test. We have one on order and this helps solidify our confidence in the choice.

  • @QALibrary
    @QALibrary Рік тому +5

    Been looking forward to a review of this car for a long time

  • @larryroelofs336
    @larryroelofs336 Рік тому +15

    Great video. I have a Lyriq on order and when it comes in next decade I will have this great information. I appreciate all your videos. I am also in the works for establishing Ev charging stations in our condo community to owner’s individual deeded parking spaces, so I would appreciate any videos regarding the challenges with tapping directly off our individual power meters providing 100 amp service to each condo.

    • @monono954
      @monono954 Рік тому

      Tom, all GM vehicles subtract regenerated energy from the consumed energy. If you pay close attention to the energy used you'll see the amount used will reduce while regenerating.

  • @mrstyle25
    @mrstyle25 Рік тому +5

    I love my @Cadillac Lyriq. Especially using my Grizzle Charger! Thanks Tom!

  • @CraigMatsuura
    @CraigMatsuura Рік тому +4

    We had a reservation for the Lyriq over a year ago and waited until last week to give it up. We were not getting any info on when we could make our production order and my better half was really getting feed up waiting for her car. Watching this video makes me wish I had kept that reservation, we ended up with the Q8 E-tron which was way more, in price and range. Still a nice car, but if the Lyriq checks off this box of range and can charge like a beast if you are still waiting don't second guess your self like I did. I saw some pictures of the 24 AMD and the updated the door handles to be normal not buttons and I heard the charge port now opens smooth. Again, great video Tom and looking forward to the charging curve, I expect that to be really good. GM has hit it out of the park if they can pass these two tests, they just need to deliver vehicles. The wait was killing us.

    • @pilozm
      @pilozm Рік тому +1

      Sad that Cadillac is treating many new-to-Cadillac customers like that.

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 Рік тому

      re: "We had a reservation for the Lyriq over a year ago and waited until last week to give it up." well that'll learn ya. re: "Watching this video makes me wish I had kept that reservation" see...? see...? while both are technically SUV's of sorts don't confuse the Lyriq with the Cybertruck.

    • @jeffwestover1086
      @jeffwestover1086 2 місяці тому +1

      Don’t be sorry theLinuxdude you got a FAR better car with an Audi than a crapillac. You have precision German engineering, unlike GM that slow rolled out a car “to find out all the mistakes.” You don’t want a car that had to find out the mistakes while you are driving it. It is why the entire first years run were recalled and placed as show pieces in the showrooms, can’t be test driven, can’t be turned on. You want a car that was designed, tested, and built once they ironed all, the kinks out. If Biden had not bailed out this company with trillions of yours and my tax dollars then it would be beside Pontiac and Oldsmobile.

  • @kurtstype7468
    @kurtstype7468 Рік тому +2

    Nice review as usual Tom!

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast Рік тому +5

    Really great job on this video Tom. Lots of great information. The theory about why the pack has more than the stated usable energy is interesting. Sounds reasonable. This vehicle definitely has an excellent powertrain.

    • @michaels3003
      @michaels3003 Рік тому

      The exact capacity will vary a little from one pack to another. In this particular test, the conditions were perfect.

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 11 місяців тому +3

    Pretty darned good. Anything over 3m/kWh on the freeway is a solid result, especially for a tall car.

  • @letsgobrandon5800
    @letsgobrandon5800 Рік тому +4

    Good looking car Tom. It’s stunning. Glad to see you on the Joisey Turnpike.

  • @brothajim01
    @brothajim01 Місяць тому

    Splendid video. Learning about EVs now. Love your channel. I just subscribed.

  • @officialyasir
    @officialyasir Рік тому +4

    Nice job, Tom!

  • @EV-Darryl
    @EV-Darryl Рік тому +3

    Great video. My 2023 bolt is a little frustrating with the “low” on the dashboard. You are right about the app though, I can see the miles and percentage left with the “my chevrolet app.” I did a range test at 55 mph in it to see… lol also, I just started a UA-cam channel and tried to add several short videos of the range test…. I’m new and not sure how to blend my videos. I’m working on that though….. thanks again

  • @apache6084
    @apache6084 11 місяців тому +1

    Excellent explanation ., keep up the good work.

  • @atptennisfans157
    @atptennisfans157 Рік тому +1

    Nice job Tom! Can’t wait your range test with the new Fisker Ocean One ;)

  • @rhemy1
    @rhemy1 10 місяців тому

    Me and my wife just received ours last week. We love them!!

  • @ronfischer191
    @ronfischer191 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video Tom

  • @ekaddo
    @ekaddo Рік тому +1

    Impressive. Great information

  • @mrdsn189
    @mrdsn189 Рік тому +2

    Thank you!

  • @BensEcoAdvntr
    @BensEcoAdvntr Рік тому +3

    This bodes well for the upcoming Blazer EV and related Hondas

  • @stennordenmalm1735
    @stennordenmalm1735 Рік тому +1

    Great reviuw as always!
    So.... I have seen Yt channels claiming that "GM is going out of business soon" and some real "interesting" comments about the CEO...
    Anyway, this EV is badass, well done GM

  • @TRYtoHELPyou
    @TRYtoHELPyou Рік тому +3

    As a spark EV owner, YES, tho it's a rare GM EV, it too can not be taken to zero comfortably. It's also hard to push.

  • @anthonybrazzale7251
    @anthonybrazzale7251 Рік тому +4

    First time I have seen your channel. Great review. Clear and concise. Thanks

  • @ehabmobarak
    @ehabmobarak 4 місяці тому

    Thanks Tom, I'm smarter now about my Lyriq because of you, THNK YOU!!

  • @Trades46
    @Trades46 Рік тому +11

    Immensely impressive. GM really worked hard on the Ultium architecture. I just hope they can scale up and start deliveries to customers.

    • @ultrastoat3298
      @ultrastoat3298 Рік тому +5

      Ultium architecture is doomed. They have to use way more storage than their peers to do the same work. Therefore, they can never be price competitive.

    • @mxs8102
      @mxs8102 Рік тому +2

      @@ultrastoat3298it’s funny a how many people don’t realize the catch with large batteries. When GM makes thirsty gas car, it’s only on consumer paying more for gas, it doesn’t really cost more to put a bigger tank in. But with BEV it cuts both ways, the larger the battery the more it costs to make, so they either charge very high price, or lose money on all cars. Not a good position to be in, that is for sure.

    • @G-Rated
      @G-Rated Рік тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@ultrastoat3298You sound like an complete idiot that’s scared. Neither you nor mxs8102 has proof that *gm* is losing money and their EVs aren’t profitable. Y’all are literally talking straight out of your asses.

    • @G-Rated
      @G-Rated Рік тому +1

      @@ultrastoat3298also to say a highly price competitive vehicle like the Cadillac Lyriq can’t be price competitive although it already is, it’s so asinine and a testament to your lack of brain power. 🤡 *gm* is laughing.

    • @NextGenEvs
      @NextGenEvs 10 місяців тому +3

      Are you kidding? A Tesla Model Y could go just as far with a 30% smaller battery!

  • @vevenaneathna
    @vevenaneathna 16 днів тому

    i really like the old gen1 volt telling me exactly how many kw's are going where. helps me drive more efficiently up hills where i can keep a steady input power while letting my speed sag by 5-10 mph. getting 5miles/kwh on the hwy at 60-65mph, crazy

  • @thenetworkarchitectchannel
    @thenetworkarchitectchannel Рік тому +3

    We just returned from Tampa to Charlotte in our Lyriq (vid in chan) and as a road trip vehicle, it is the best I have ever owned. I agree the battery percent needs a number. We also own a Volvo XC40 recharge and they were missing range in miles when it first came out, but added it via an OTA update later. I am assuming GM will too as the Ultium cars get owner feedback. Thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching, as always.

    • @Nebula1701
      @Nebula1701 Рік тому

      GM has never had % next to their battery range all the way back to the Volt days... just little tick marks at the 75 50 25 spots.

    • @housemixprp21
      @housemixprp21 5 місяців тому

      My Lyriq has a number and %.

  • @johnlodge8546
    @johnlodge8546 Рік тому

    My Son bought one.... So I will see and drive it next month, can't wait.
    I'd definitely be in the market for a used Lyric in a few years.

  • @AR-ce7gy
    @AR-ce7gy Рік тому +1

    That rearview mirror certainly vibrates. Wow!

  • @easternpa2
    @easternpa2 Рік тому +5

    Great video, Tom. I'm keeping the Lyriq pretty high on my list of vehicles to consider next, especially if they flip the CCS port over to the front right before making the switch to NACS. Until then, that car will be a terrible neighbor at Tesla superchargers.

  • @danielo4915
    @danielo4915 11 місяців тому +1

    Good video. And thanks for the comment at about 19:50 to slow down to increase range. In reality if people followed the speed limit and stayed in the right lane pacing the traffic there would be less close calls, accidents, and road rage overall..

  • @tlderose
    @tlderose Рік тому +1

    Another good video Tom. I’ll have to have you test my Fisker Ocean 🌊 Extreme once I get, if one of my #FiskerFamily doesn’t hit you up first.😎 Love your videos!

  • @martinspilchenbroker
    @martinspilchenbroker 6 місяців тому

    Great video! I test drove a 2024 AWD Lyriq yesterday and was very impressed with the power and overall comfort. I presently own a 2022 Audi e-tron, when comparing the two, I find the Lyriq has more road noise but is far more comfortable, and has better range. I have dual charge ports and would like to see dual ports on the Lyriq or, preferably, have a standard front location on all vehicles so that the EVSE location won’t matter in a garage or charge location. As of today, my next vehicle will be the Lyriq.

  • @EVAddicted
    @EVAddicted Рік тому +2

    Actually on my 2020 Bolt ev and now 2022 Bolt EUV I noticed in used energy when you regen it rolls back the numbers.

  • @cesartrujillo4190
    @cesartrujillo4190 Рік тому +7

    Hey TOM! Another great video! I’m so glad you were very happy with the lyric. I know they haven’t sold very many yet but it’s really good to know that there are good EV options finally coming out.
    Before your next range test, look up and try foundation training for your back. I like the original 12 minute version. Very helpful. You can also do a quick session while you recharge. It really helps my back before and after trips.

    • @megaroeny
      @megaroeny Рік тому

      What's the foundation back training?

    • @gaviriajj
      @gaviriajj Рік тому

      Good EV options? Wow, just wow.

  • @clsanders98
    @clsanders98 Рік тому

    I have a 2021 Tesla Model Y long range. I’ve found that holding a steady speed is the best way to get the maximum range. That said, I fully agree with your comments regarding exceeding 75 miles per hour and its affect on efficiency.

  • @stangmatt66
    @stangmatt66 Рік тому +4

    Ford EVs give you the same information about where your power went; trip, HVAC, external temps, etc.

  • @cjonesplay1
    @cjonesplay1 Рік тому +3

    Another Great video Tom. Keep up the great work.

  • @bernesto2468
    @bernesto2468 Рік тому +2

    I have been in some gas cars that also report "low" when the tank is close to dry. I think some engineer/manager/or lawyer selected this to basically tell the driver, fill up now, we do not assure anything from this point on.

  • @MartyinPS
    @MartyinPS Рік тому

    Enjoyed the Vid and I will addGM does not give you a number on range for their gas engines. I have a Cadillac SRX 2013 and when I reach 40 miles, it then gives you a LOW reading so you have to remember to find a gas station. When I first bought the SUV, I ran out of gas because I wasn't paying attention. LOL I really like the Lyriq and watching the reviews. I agree with you, it should be at least on option in settings on a Bar or actual number of miles left to empty or recharge. Thanks again for the great info! 🙂

  • @RobJohnsonJr
    @RobJohnsonJr Рік тому +2

    Incredibly well done and informative review. Thank you!

  • @frankierays
    @frankierays 11 місяців тому

    Great review! Beautiful styling and Cadillac comfort. Great range. I’m going to assume the lane hogging lane assist was not intended.

  • @leonardferguson8413
    @leonardferguson8413 Рік тому +7

    I would like to see you Test Drive the AWD Lyriq & compare it against the Rear Wheel Drive to the see the difference in the range, the average motorist does not drive 300 miles a day, so the Lyriq is a great vehicle for the price👍🏾👍🏾

    • @G-Rated
      @G-Rated Рік тому +1

      300+ miles of range with AWD in a vehicle as spacious and luxurious as this is perfect for middle-high class American families. This vehicle would sell well even at $10k-15k above it’s peak price because of it’s practicality. The engineering speaks for itself when you drive it but the _Lyriq’s_ design is the icing on the cake for me!

  • @eddiegardner8232
    @eddiegardner8232 Рік тому +16

    Tom, your highway mileage tests are the gold standard of believability. EPA estimates, not so much.

    • @michaels3003
      @michaels3003 Рік тому +1

      I thought he clearly explained, EPA does not provide 70 mph range. Btw., the EPA tests are not performed on roads and AFAIK they are performed by the automotive manufacturers.

  • @StubbyStan28
    @StubbyStan28 Рік тому +1

    Tom, there was a lot of movement on the rearview mirror. Was that bc of the road, the weight of your camera setup, or normal & I just don't notice that type of movement on my own rearview mirror bc I'm never really paying attention to it?

  • @NJturtlePower
    @NJturtlePower Рік тому +1

    Can't wait to see the AWD Lyriq results

  • @reyes2009
    @reyes2009 Рік тому +10

    Tom, great video as always! That is great range, at this rate, GM should advertise it as 375 mile range (12% above its actual range) just like all other EVs. But at the end of the day, it is still 100+Kwh, imagine if the model Y had 100kwh pack, it would get 400+miles of range.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 Рік тому +1

      Shhhhh! 😉

    • @8bajwa8
      @8bajwa8 Рік тому +1

      Why would you compare Lyriq to Y. Two totally different cars. Before you say somthing just compare tire size of both vehicles. Imagine if Y have same tire size will not even touch 200 miles.

    • @texanmonke
      @texanmonke 10 місяців тому

      ​@@8bajwa8huh? So if tesla put 20" wheels that are more narrow like the lyriq the range would plummet nearly 80 miles ? I'm pretty sure you're making things up

    • @8bajwa8
      @8bajwa8 10 місяців тому

      @@texanmonke typical tesla fan boy. Go look at tire size and come back and admit tesla fans have tunnel vision.

  • @michaelsimmons5298
    @michaelsimmons5298 11 місяців тому

    Hi Tom -- thank you for this. I have Qmerit coming to install my L2 charger on Wednesday. I just picked up my 2024 LUX 1 RWD on Monday and am going through the learning curve on my first EV. Is there an online database where owners can log and share trip information? The idea would be to crowdsource information like you provide. My first trip was 90 highway miles (each way) at 76 mph with the AC on -- 2.4 mi/kwhr on the way there and 2.5 on the way home. I will be doing more highway driving at slower speeds to get more data.

  • @profwilliams2772
    @profwilliams2772 Рік тому +1

    Scariest part of these videos is Tom with a depleted battery, pulling into a non-Tesla charging station. My experience has been that charging at Electrify America or EVGo or other non-Tesla station is hit or miss. And with a depleted battery, you don't want to miss. I wouldn't look at a non-Tesla EV until Tesla's charging infrastructure is available. The others are just not as reliable. Great Video Tom!!!

    • @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
      @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Рік тому

      Hey Prof, I hope all is well. So, I get that the reliability isn't 100%, but I will say this. You know I've been driving EVs for 14 years now, and using DC fast chargers for nearly that long. Only 1 time was I not able to charge when I arrived at a DC fast charge station in the many, many times I have used them. Yes, often I needed to call customer service to assist me in getting it to work, and other times I needed to try multiple plugs to find one working, and other times the station didn't deliver as much power as it was supposed to, but I always left charged, even if it wasn't a great, seamless experience.

  • @PDLM1221
    @PDLM1221 11 місяців тому

    I like this Caddy I’ll have to put this on my to consider when I buy my first EV , this one is nice .

  • @TheCut2009
    @TheCut2009 11 місяців тому

    I'm getting a lyric next week. What wind app are you using to know the wind direction?

  • @ehabmobarak
    @ehabmobarak 4 місяці тому

    Great video Tom, thanks for making us smarter. I own a 2023 Lyriq and I took it from NY to DC, around 250 miles trip in about 25-28 degrees cold weather. My intimal estimates (so did the car) was to stop once to re-charge but the battery was discharging a lot faster rate than expected which made me stop twice for recharging. I attribute that to the cold weather, would you agree? Thanks!

  • @Qrail
    @Qrail Рік тому +1

    I am not a GM fan, since they scuttled my SAAB brand, and stranded me. However, it is nice to see GM under promising, and over delivering. Kudos to them. I have owned 8 Caddy’s. I used to buy them from Scott Motors in Reno, from AJ Reck, the salesman with a name you can never forget. But, they lost me forever as a customer in 2008. My 4 Audi’s have measured up quite well since then. (eTron is the newest)

  • @Horus2001
    @Horus2001 11 місяців тому +1

    Great info. I'm interested in a comparison of the Lyric to it's cousin the Chevy Blazer EV.

  • @davidws5439
    @davidws5439 Рік тому +2

    Tom, the Tesla model 3 does NOT have 102 kwh battery pack. Put a 102 kwh pack in a Tesla 3 and it would blow the range test. Also, I thought you had a Dual motor model 3. Great job for GM.

  • @kenhiett5266
    @kenhiett5266 Рік тому +7

    I'd like to see what the AWD 600 4e does in this test before I commit. It's between a new AWD version of this or a used Model X, but the hwy range capability is a priority for my needs. I have my doubts that the significantly more powerful AWD can come close, but if it does, GM will earn my money.

  • @adambecherer3804
    @adambecherer3804 Рік тому +4

    Great review - impressive results.

    • @gaviriajj
      @gaviriajj Рік тому

      Not impressive. 3.1miles per kWh is NOT impressive. That's very high consumption for a non commercial vehicle, it is currently consuming 322 watt hours per mile, Amazing would be closer to 200 wh/mile.

  • @hdhd7402
    @hdhd7402 11 місяців тому +1

    My favorite is the Bolt on a 350kw charger 🔌. That is monster range!

  • @windowman9665
    @windowman9665 Рік тому +2

    I would love one. But I’m not waiting on a list for five years. Gm really messed up on getting there vehicles out fast. The wait times are insane. I cancelled my Silverado Ev and got a polestar 3 coming March 2024. Can’t wait

    • @FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
      @FrunkensteinVonZipperneck Рік тому +3

      GM has not built an EV factory. They announced 3+ BATTERY factories - good. But trying to make an EV in a disused Saturn building ain't workin' out.

  • @newscoulomb3705
    @newscoulomb3705 Рік тому +3

    22:06 I actually don't mind that the range estimate goes away below 5% battery. From a liability standpoint, you don't want to encourage people to push the last 5 to 10 miles only to have them come up short. Especially without being able to account for terrain. The bigger issue is that they don't include the SOC in actual percentages, so when the Range Estimator is unavailable, it leaves the driver without any other information. So I think a flashing "LOW" is fine, but they need to include the SOC % along with that.

    • @lanceareadbhar
      @lanceareadbhar Рік тому +1

      SOC is definitely needed with a buffer zone as well so that 0% displayed is not actually 0%. The miles are not nearly as important as the SOC.

    • @newscoulomb3705
      @newscoulomb3705 Рік тому

      @@lanceareadbhar I think GM started including a small bottom buffer with their Ultium products. I haven't seen anyone drive one to completely empty yet, and most LYRIQ owners are reporting between 102 kWh and 104 kWh used at "LOW." Based on the double-stack Ultium pack being 212-213 kWh usable, this LYRIQ pack should be 106-106.5 kWh from full to completely dead.

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 Рік тому

      re: "From a liability standpoint, you don't want to encourage people to push the last 5 to 10 miles only to have them come up short." don't worry Tommy Molo' knows, as you likely recall he was told this by myself (and possibly a few others) back nearly 2 years ago. as you recognize it is indeed GM's protection against all the SRI ("Stockton Rush Idiots") we've now got walking among us in society. yeah, something that NEVER crosses the mind of the layperson on the street (with no education and no work experience) is that the Engineers working at General Motors and all the other OEMS are in fact SMARTER than they are.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 Рік тому

      There's a point of view that below 5-10% is exactly when you DO want to know the percentage.

    • @newscoulomb3705
      @newscoulomb3705 Рік тому +1

      @@rogerstarkey5390 I think everyone is in agreement that GM needs to include the actual, observed battery percentage, but battery percentage is not estimated range. GM's Range Estimator is predictive, but when the battery gets that low, any number of factors could add or cut actual miles from the predicted range. The messaging starting long before that point is, "Get to a charger ASAP." The driver should have already set navigation for a charging point that is within the predicted range long before the range estimate ever goes away.
      What Tom is asking for is a feature that literally only matters to and adds value for someone who is trying to complete exhaust the battery. The average consumer would never even think to ask for that feature, and where I would disagree with Tom here is that, GM's omission of the range estimate under 5% is actually proof that their engineers know quite a lot about driving EVs. They know exactly what the average EV owner would try to do with that knowledge if it was available (i.e., push the car to its absolute limits even when it's not advisable to do so).

  • @michaelfrancis-vb7tp
    @michaelfrancis-vb7tp 9 місяців тому

    Good stuff

  • @PeaceChanel
    @PeaceChanel 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste.. 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤

  • @axion8788
    @axion8788 Рік тому +10

    Ioniq 5 gives you all the consumption info but navigating the screens could be more intuitive.

  • @JandCDoodles
    @JandCDoodles Рік тому +1

    My bZ4X doesn't have a numeric state of charge either! Drives me crazy! I guess the updates in other countries rectified that issue. No update in the US.

  • @ScrapKing73
    @ScrapKing73 Рік тому +2

    The passenger seat looks like he’s sitting beside Beymax from Big Hero 6!

    • @adofoi30
      @adofoi30 Рік тому

      I never saw that …. But now I Can’t unsee it!

    • @ScrapKing73
      @ScrapKing73 Рік тому

      @@adofoi30 I had the same experience!!

  • @joshmatlock1020
    @joshmatlock1020 Рік тому

    I moved to Fairfield, CT at the end of last year. If you're ever in the area I'd love to chat EVs or if you're doing any EV events I'd glady drive to NJ. I have a Model 3 LR (2022 year).

  • @hardykornfeld1733
    @hardykornfeld1733 11 місяців тому

    My BMW i4 e40 gets 3.0 mi/kWh on the highway when the temperature is below 10 degrees F. On nice summer days it gets 3.8 to 4.0. The Lyriq is inefficient but saved by the humongous battery.

  • @daves1646
    @daves1646 Рік тому +2

    Nice to see an Ultium vehicle deliver the range. Not that many looks so far. Nice to see it. >EPA!!
    One question. About 4 times I heard sounds like suspension / rattle noises, presumably when you went over road imperfections. Surprised me that a Cadilac would be anything more than silent on the highway.
    Maybe an OBD-II based monitor would be worth it for state of charge data when running a GM vehicle range test since they don’t show percent or estimate of final miles left.
    Thanks again!!

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 Рік тому

      re: "About 4 times I heard sounds like suspension / rattle noises, presumably when you went over road imperfections. Surprised me that a Cadilac would be anything more than silent on the highway." easy fix Dave, you're just going to have to "come off the dime" for a ROLLS ROYCE SPECTRE (admittedly i'm dying to take one for a spin, so let me drive it for a day once you take delivery).🤙

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 Рік тому

      330 with a 102 kWh pack isn't "Amazing".... Not really.
      "Adequate" is closer to the mark.

  • @KentBuchla
    @KentBuchla 9 місяців тому

    Within similar windows of range, range figures between cars doesn’t matter on long trips with multiple charging stops. If charging from 10% to 80%, charging speeds and efficiency are also very important factors.

  • @benwinslow3101
    @benwinslow3101 Рік тому +1

    Eagerly awaiting the charging video. I'd like to see if GM had improved the ultimum charging since the hummer.

    • @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
      @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Рік тому +1

      That's going to take me a bit. The DC fast charging videos require a LOT of editing. Maybe 10 to 14 days from now...

    • @benwinslow3101
      @benwinslow3101 Рік тому +1

      @@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney that's fine....I won't be able to buy an equinox before then so I can wait, lol

  • @racepnd
    @racepnd 11 місяців тому

    Make sure the auto match lane changes are turned on that way it will change lanes all by itself. Mine is fantastic.

  • @alanbuck9237
    @alanbuck9237 Рік тому +3

    That’s a fantastic range result. But be aware other publications are coming up with about 230 miles at 75 mph on the all wheel drive model which isn’t exactly fantastic. For most people maybe it would be smarter to buy the real wheel drive, since the acceleration doesn’t differ that much.

    • @prodigy311
      @prodigy311 Рік тому +1

      While the faster AWD will be more fun to whip around, the RWD is what I ordered since I want the range. Tom's video has me excited for my future Lyriq. It is expected to go into production this coming week!

    • @michaels3003
      @michaels3003 Рік тому

      This is really low, as the increased aerodynamic drag is only 15% higher at 75 mph.

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 11 місяців тому +2

      Other publics
      dubious outliers no doubt

    • @JakeRichardsong
      @JakeRichardsong 11 місяців тому

      Prove it. What are the other publications? Sounds like nonsense losing 100 miles of range for 5 miles an hour more.

    • @cypvh74
      @cypvh74 11 місяців тому

      You should never really in real life let your car get to under 10 miles of range left, so “low” seems fine. At that point you better be close to a charger.

  • @jeffjohnson3750
    @jeffjohnson3750 Рік тому +1

    Very informative as always. Are you going to do a full review of the car, or do you just focus on range tests here?

  • @mosfet500
    @mosfet500 Рік тому +2

    Thanks Tom.
    1% climate, do you know if it has a HP heater? It looks like the HP air is very efficient after 5 hours.

  • @leonardferguson8413
    @leonardferguson8413 Рік тому +1

    Thank you, great vehicle, great test results.👍🏾👍🏾

    • @gaviriajj
      @gaviriajj Рік тому

      Not impressive. 3.1miles per kWh is NOT impressive. That's very high consumption for a non commercial vehicle, it is currently consuming 322 watt hours per mile, Amazing would be closer to 200 wh/mile.

  • @bam111965
    @bam111965 Рік тому +1

    Thank you! Very helpful. Now, if they would just sell me one.

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast Рік тому +1

    20:52 did you mean to say 328 miles when you pulled off the highway and stopped going 70 mph? 228 miles would be really bad. 328 miles is simply astounding.

  • @focus_driv3n440
    @focus_driv3n440 5 місяців тому

    Can these batteries on the lyriq be charged at 100% unlike tesla model Y where they recommend 80% for battery health and only charge to 100 % on long trips?

  • @dapowell38
    @dapowell38 6 місяців тому

    Tom-What size wheels were on your test Lyriq 20s or 22s? What do you think the range reduction is for the 22s?

  • @andrewwoulfe6579
    @andrewwoulfe6579 11 місяців тому +1

    The dealer let me use a Lyric for 3 days.
    Full disclosure: I have a 2022 Tesla Models S Long Range and a 2020 Tesla Model 3 Standard
    I was extremely impressed with range and range estimates on the Lyric. Fit and finish were generally good. Ride and comfort were great.
    Good many things were broken on my Lyric.
    Navigation did not work (unless you used Apple CarPlay)
    Fast charging did not work.
    Would not charge with my level 2 Tesla charger with adapter.
    Dealer told me the car was having "shutdown issues" I did not experience these issues.
    A little too much plastic for a $70k car
    Tech was a bit lacking. Wireless Apple CarPlay worked flawlessly. I hope Tesla is watching. And surround camera was great.
    Not much App help without spending a good amount on subscription. Tesla Premium connectivity is $99 a year. I believe the Lyric was almost $500 for a year.
    Overall, I was impressed. Much better than the Volt, Bolt or the Mach E.

  • @baham9217
    @baham9217 Рік тому +1

    GM does the "Low" warning in their gas engines, too. I think they always have. I had a 2009 Cobalt SS with the 2.0L Turbo. It had a 13.7 gallon tank; got around 33 MPG on the highway. I drove from Rochester, NY to Laurel, MD (approx. 420 miles) and as I got to the Baltimore Beltway, my miles remaining changed to "Low (Fuel)" and I guessed my way back home. I put a little over 12.5 gallons in it when I got home, so I figured I was down around a gallon left when the numbers disappeared. GM forces me to do math when I run my cars (both ICE and EV) too low. Excellent episode in the Lyriq! Very impressive range.

  • @timgurr1876
    @timgurr1876 Рік тому +2

    Nice video (as usual). I don’t think pulling every last mile out of the battery is really a reasonable bench mark test but does (Perhaps) give someone ultimate range in an emergency situation (no charging stations nearby or charging station not working). I think it might be more reasonable to drive at 70 mph until the battery is around 5% state of charge, then estimate the range based upon the average mi/kWH. That could possibly eliminate the lower mph trying to drain the battery to zero. Of course, actual range is going to depend upon active time events including traffic density and speed, wind speed and direction, and ambient temperatures. Would be interesting to know how towing impacts the range and efficiency. The only reason for concern of range is the longer time to charge and EV versus ICE and the lack of infrastructure in out of the way places (rural areas). Otherwise, their would be no reason to consider range testing. I don’t ever recall such a concern for ICE and diesel vehicles. Also, their has never been much concern about the accuracy of remaining fuel as for battery state. Are we becoming technology geeks? Looking forward to charging test info. For most people that is more of a concern than range. If the charging from 10% to 80% can be under 15 minutes, that starts to being an acceptable level. Get that down to less than 10 minutes and that might remove most people’s range anxiety. Thanks again.

    • @michaels3003
      @michaels3003 Рік тому

      Fast charging requires a well designed battery cooling system. The temperature increase should be reported in serious testing.

  • @misaelramos83
    @misaelramos83 Рік тому +5

    Tom, I wouldn't want you to be like any other automotive UA-camr be it the EV space or not but it would seem that you would greatly benefit in your testing from using the same car scanner app that Bjorn uses. It's called: car scanner. It's great.

    • @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
      @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Рік тому +7

      I know all about those and I've decided not to use them. I don't like the optics of it - I think it scares off people new to EVs. You need to hook up some device under the dashboard just so you know what's going on in your car? I use them myself every now and then, but I don't anticipate using them in my videos.

    • @misaelramos83
      @misaelramos83 Рік тому +1

      @@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney For sure! In my personal life the app has helped me to make sure my battery is up to temp for DC charging and given me a sense of the power draw of various aspects of the car and how the cooling system seems to work etc. I definitely agree even if I find it lamentable that the average person is not interested in the data their car is producing. Thanks Tom!

    • @Nebula1701
      @Nebula1701 Рік тому +2

      @@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I don't think Car Scanner can read the Lyriq's PIDs right now besides some basic information. Ultium is quite locked down.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 Рік тому +1

      @@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
      You don't "Have to" but from a test perspective it's better than just running to "bricked"?
      .
      Also gives great information regarding cars like the Hyundai regarding their flaky pack cooling, which explains the erratic charge curve.

  • @nehtals
    @nehtals Рік тому

    When the lucid get 5 mpkWh is 3.1 something to get excited about?

  • @crsp76691
    @crsp76691 Рік тому +1

    5.7 ZERO TO 60 WOULD BE A SUPER CAR IN THE 90'S. PRETTY FAST

  • @williamerazo3921
    @williamerazo3921 2 місяці тому

    Just bought a 2024 Lyric for my Rideshare / livery Business

  • @hamaali479
    @hamaali479 Рік тому +2

    cadillac nailed it

  • @xjdisuehd
    @xjdisuehd Рік тому

    Considering that f150 lightning can do 2.4-2.5 mi/kwh, i kinda expected Lyriq to be around 3.3-3.4mi/kwh. I'm guessing that an average use of 50-50 city - highway driving will find that efficiency. And possibly if the car only does city miles it might as well be able to get nearly 375mi of city range (not exceeding 45/50 mph).

  • @flyboypat
    @flyboypat Рік тому

    How were the winds on this trip. Headwind vs tailwind makes a pretty big coffeemaker from what i see on my model 3 and model Y

  • @Cjdergrosse
    @Cjdergrosse 11 місяців тому

    300+mi highway range, and what I’d be interested in is the 80A onboard charger, charging at 19.2kW is a monster! Teslas (no longer) don’t charge at that rate!

  • @Nebula1701
    @Nebula1701 Рік тому

    Tom @stateofcharge ask the built in Google Assistant while driving what the vehicles state of charge is!!! I believe that works in the Hummer so here to.

  • @JesseCarpenter1979
    @JesseCarpenter1979 Рік тому +3

    Great range test, Tom. The lack of battery percentage needs to be changed. Hopefully, GM will update their software.