There's a lot of marketing going on here. basically it's Chinook salmon, NOT a different sub species. They're just being grown to larger sizes. Also Chinook are not native to New Zealand, they were introduced, and New Zealand is the largest exporter of Chinook salmon in the world, so saying that they "didn't even know they were there" is disingenuous.
898792 Thank you for toning down the Hype and excitement about the farm raised King Salmon that is being farm raised in New Zealand . I am not sure if New Zealand had established natural Salmon runs by transplanting them from one of the Native runs of the Pacific Salmon.
@@898792 let's be fair, they never called it a species of salmon. They called it a "type" of salmon (or sub-species as you would have it). And to say it was "discovered" is still pretty accurate.
"We can't tell you where it is." 1. They use water from the Te Waikoropupū Springs. 2. Seals come "all the way from the sea" to eat the fish. In other words, it's near Golden Bay, New Zealand.
The most ancient and noble art of tricking rich people out of their money. Imagine being able to convince someone that a farmed salmon is worth 1700 dollars its almost art.
@@gregpierquet5818 the 100 pounders ran in the Columbia river in Washington and Oregon before the grand coulee dam was built. There’s pictures of Native American fisherman holding them at the mouth of the Columbia river nearly a hundred years ago. The dam basically pushed that sub species to extinction.
A fence to keep the seals from trekking through the forest to get these special salmon? People paying $17,000 for one farmed salmon? Farmed salmon who's flesh is gray until it's dyed pink? I live in Washington State in the US, Tyee just means it's a big Chinook salmon. Fishermen get $15 a pound for wild Chinook (Sockeye only gets $10 a pound). It is neither rare or mythical, just more upscale that what you would find in a can. Fact checking this on the internet probably would have only set you back only 5 minutes.
@@harrycurrie9664 I spent 3 more minutes of my life finding that part and you're right, 17 hundred, which is in the realm of reasonable. After another 2 minute investment of my time I learned (from a sketchy AI summary) that salmon farmers now feed supplements to their fish so their flesh isn't grey anymore. Maybe if this guy fed them some of that wasabi to give them a spicy kick he would have something special. That or feed them coffee beans and roast what they poop out. For some reason people pay big money for coffee that was naturally processed by exotic animals. Who knows, maybe that coffee would be high in omega-3's.
@@gregpierquet5818 Rivers' Inlet in BC has had Chinook (blackmouth, American named Tyee or King) well over 100 lbs. in the fish count barrel, BUT that's loaded with eggs or milt for spawning. They only go up about seven miles to spawn.
I remember seeing salmon over six feet long going up the fish ladders at the Dalles Dam on the Columbia River in The Dalles ,Oregon in the 70s.True story.
So someone from BC here (caught a Tyee) 1. Tyee = King in "Chinook jargon" which was a pigeon language between first nations and white traders. 2. Tyee is given as a measurement of weight over 30lbs and Spring Salmon.
@@geomundi8333 it's a brotherhood, if you know you know, if you don't know you should read the Bible. It tells you the world is ran by people in high places and the ones they serve are not flesh and blood but spiritual beings. This is a foreign language to you if you don't follow Jesus. You will just be lost in a storm with no direction. You might of heard of this club though. It's the one that actors and singers have to sell their soul to join and become famous.
He's a New Zealander who has done well for himself and employs other New Zealanders. Why shouldn't we be happy for him and celebrate his success? Why be just another bitter Kiwi guy with tall poppy syndrome who is jealous of another Kiwi?
in the mid 70's used to catch king salmon over 70lbs on the kenai river in Alaska but over fishing by commercial fisheries and un restricted native fishing is destroying the salmon population.
The news is full of lies. So the fish was just recently discovered but the natives already had a name for it right. Tell me both the truth and the lie at the same time.
The only reason they are growing large is they are unable to swim up a fresh water river to breed. That fresh water causes salmon to deteriorate as they search for a suitable place to lay eggs. The King salmon in Alaska become very large because there are less dammed rivers that keep total numbers down.
i’m not sure if freshwater is what directly causes the deterioration of salmon. In the great lakes, salmon spend their whole lives in freshwater and only deteriorate after entering the spawning system, some even spend their whole lives in very large rivers. however, I am unfamiliar with the exact reason why they decline so rapidly after entering streams.
I remember seeing pictures at the oregon maritime museum. Where they showed really really big long over sized salmon being harvested. These do not compare to those older giants of long ago.
There were runs on the Oregon coast ,not gonna name the rivers, the late 70's into early 80's with dinosaur kings pushing a 100 & quite a few well over that , they were amazing.
Largest salmon we ever caught was almost 6ft long and 100lbs out of dry creek in California before they rerouted that water way it's since almost dried up after it almost dried up we found an old wagon and the creek bed was littered with ol blue medicine bottles.
I guess they idiots didn't realize that they pretty much gave away the location of there super secret farm ,that no 1 is supposed to know the location of .. at the end of the clip they say that the water comes from some very specific natural spring , it's definitely narrows down the location of a farm for any would be poachers..ughh that's the end of that species...lol
You can catch King Salmon in the wild off San Francisco boat charters via the harbour or in North California rivers like the Sacramento get up to 30-60lbs huge fish. Better for you than farmed salmon !
I have issues with that host on the right suggesting that fresh caught fish is somehow bad for you. Host on the left was looking like she was about to smack him too after what he said 😂
First of all a tyee salmon is not a different type of subspecies, but a chinook that is over 30 pounds. It is also not the Wagyu of the sea because the best salmon to eat are in fact the smaller ones and sockeyes. These are also raised in a farm with is waaaay worse than anything you would buy is bc or the us. I do not believe they have a waiting list either that would be ridiculous
Fish so big it could feed 100 people. "It has been here since god knows when". I would think a fish THAT BIG, would be a little hard to miss....especially in a FISHERY!
If they are from BC and this guy says he was invited to catch one there it seems strange they would be in NZ. Clearly this is a fish farm, hopefully with the nice spring water there is no need for toxic chemicals to keep them healthy.
The waygu of Salmon lmao. In my language Tae means shit, so it makes sense being called Tyee Salmon, funny enough as i was typing this comment the reporter said its from Poo Poo spring 😂@4:00 lmao
Over dramatic. These fish are part of a breeding program . They have them up to a massive size in 2years. What is not kept for the breeding program go to sea cages. These fish are then harvested. The breeding program is about getting the best feed conversion possible in as short a time as possible. The breeding program based on selecting the best and not on gene manipulation.
These are farm-raised salmon guys they're not even going to be able to get their color of meet naturally from the ocean they're going to be feeding these things pellets is it just like Atlantic salmon it's all farm-raised and you don't eat that you don't eat anything that comes out of fresh water the specially raw
There's a lot of marketing going on here. basically it's Chinook salmon, NOT a different sub species. They're just being grown to larger sizes. Also Chinook are not native to New Zealand, they were introduced, and New Zealand is the largest exporter of Chinook salmon in the world, so saying that they "didn't even know they were there" is disingenuous.
898792 Thank you for toning down the Hype and excitement about the farm raised King Salmon that is being farm raised in New Zealand . I am not sure if New Zealand had established natural Salmon runs by transplanting them from one of the Native runs of the Pacific Salmon.
So basically, there's something fishy going on here ?
@@fasx56 King is an American term. They're Chinook, or blackmouth in the fish trade.
@@898792 let's be fair, they never called it a species of salmon. They called it a "type" of salmon (or sub-species as you would have it). And to say it was "discovered" is still pretty accurate.
@@richarddr1234 If they were intentionally introduced to the area by humans, then in what sense of the word are they "discovered"?
"We can't tell you where it is."
1. They use water from the Te Waikoropupū Springs.
2. Seals come "all the way from the sea" to eat the fish.
In other words, it's near Golden Bay, New Zealand.
I laughed at that too. New Zealanders know where that place is.
@@caravanlifenz haha yeah I just google earthed it . its right next to the spring
Can't you walk NZ in like 2 hours?
@@Keller5327LV no
@@BushKayakersCampingAustralia false. 1:46:16
The most ancient and noble art of tricking rich people out of their money. Imagine being able to convince someone that a farmed salmon is worth 1700 dollars its almost art.
Goofy New Zealanders are falling for this marketing scam lol. I am American, these salmon are common.
I haven't seen a salmon over 100 pounds in the states. Where are you fishing?
@@gregpierquet5818 the 100 pounders ran in the Columbia river in Washington and Oregon before the grand coulee dam was built. There’s pictures of Native American fisherman holding them at the mouth of the Columbia river nearly a hundred years ago. The dam basically pushed that sub species to extinction.
@@gregpierquet5818and I think op is referring to chinook salmon being common, which they very much are.
A fence to keep the seals from trekking through the forest to get these special salmon? People paying $17,000 for one farmed salmon? Farmed salmon who's flesh is gray until it's dyed pink? I live in Washington State in the US, Tyee just means it's a big Chinook salmon. Fishermen get $15 a pound for wild Chinook (Sockeye only gets $10 a pound). It is neither rare or mythical, just more upscale that what you would find in a can. Fact checking this on the internet probably would have only set you back only 5 minutes.
I think he said $1,700 for a 60 kg ( 132 lb ) fish = $12.50 per lb. approx.
@@harrycurrie9664 I spent 3 more minutes of my life finding that part and you're right, 17 hundred, which is in the realm of reasonable. After another 2 minute investment of my time I learned (from a sketchy AI summary) that salmon farmers now feed supplements to their fish so their flesh isn't grey anymore. Maybe if this guy fed them some of that wasabi to give them a spicy kick he would have something special. That or feed them coffee beans and roast what they poop out. For some reason people pay big money for coffee that was naturally processed by exotic animals. Who knows, maybe that coffee would be high in omega-3's.
I use to fish for those and not as uncommon as the video says. Wild fish always taste better than the farmed ones like that
These are just farmed raised salmon. The best Chinook salmon are wild caught spring chinook from the pacific northwest. Meat tastes like it butter.
Damn straight
Over 100 pounds?
I live at the tip of the Olympic peninsula in port Angeles. The fish here are wonderful.
@@adrielburned6924 I lived on Whidbey back in the 80's. Beautiful back then.
@@gregpierquet5818 Rivers' Inlet in BC has had Chinook (blackmouth, American named Tyee or King) well over 100 lbs. in the fish count barrel, BUT that's loaded with eggs or milt for spawning. They only go up about seven miles to spawn.
Using world’s cleanest spring to farm a non native fish
the freshwater trout in NZ are also invasive.................and delicious.l
I should have never clicked on this... advertisement... misinformation...inaccurate...silly...
This is definitely discouraging.
Another invasive species and it was introduced!
I remember seeing salmon over six feet long going up the fish ladders at the Dalles Dam on the Columbia River in The Dalles ,Oregon in the 70s.True story.
World record line caught King is 98 pounds. They've netted Kings over 105 pounds.
Damn. And I thought the American media was full of shit.
So someone from BC here (caught a Tyee) 1. Tyee = King in "Chinook jargon" which was a pigeon language between first nations and white traders. 2. Tyee is given as a measurement of weight over 30lbs and Spring Salmon.
Just so long as its not mushy. Same goes for Steel Head Trout. Mushy = gmo
amazing, you can tell the guy giving the tour is passionate about what hes doing!
an old car salesman doing what he does best...
free advertising for a multi million dollar business. why dont they give a struggling business free advertising?
because its not "free" mate :)
and they wrap it like news to camouflage lol
Because you are not a member of their club and neither am i , they only do favors for their own
@@optimumpcyt whew??? what club? dur
@@geomundi8333 it's a brotherhood, if you know you know, if you don't know you should read the Bible. It tells you the world is ran by people in high places and the ones they serve are not flesh and blood but spiritual beings. This is a foreign language to you if you don't follow Jesus. You will just be lost in a storm with no direction. You might of heard of this club though. It's the one that actors and singers have to sell their soul to join and become famous.
He's a New Zealander who has done well for himself and employs other New Zealanders. Why shouldn't we be happy for him and celebrate his success? Why be just another bitter Kiwi guy with tall poppy syndrome who is jealous of another Kiwi?
in the mid 70's used to catch king salmon over 70lbs on the kenai river in Alaska but over fishing by commercial fisheries and un restricted native fishing is destroying the salmon population.
Seafood, untrustworthy 😂
The news is full of lies. So the fish was just recently discovered but the natives already had a name for it right. Tell me both the truth and the lie at the same time.
Yes doublespeak
@4:10 the woman host says, "Oh, I do love semen." See, New Zealand? THAT'S why you need to learn to pronounce vowels properly.
100 people? bullsh*t
The only reason they are growing large is they are unable to swim up a fresh water river to breed. That fresh water causes salmon to deteriorate as they search for a suitable place to lay eggs. The King salmon in Alaska become very large because there are less dammed rivers that keep total numbers down.
i’m not sure if freshwater is what directly causes the deterioration of salmon. In the great lakes, salmon spend their whole lives in freshwater and only deteriorate after entering the spawning system, some even spend their whole lives in very large rivers. however, I am unfamiliar with the exact reason why they decline so rapidly after entering streams.
Lmao dude just making shit up
You have no idea what you are talking about 😂😂
No salmon could even feed 50 people let alone 100.
Jesus could do it.
I'm Australian and I'm having trouble with the ascent lol and I'm sure that station won't be getting ads for seafood ever again
Most farmed salmon fed petroleum based feed banned for land animals but fine for seafood
They’re going to be disappointed bc they DO NOT feed king salmon the correct diet.
Fish farm fish are disgusting....
I remember seeing pictures at the oregon maritime museum. Where they showed really really big long over sized salmon being harvested. These do not compare to those older giants of long ago.
There were runs on the Oregon coast ,not gonna name the rivers, the late 70's into early 80's with dinosaur kings pushing a 100 & quite a few well over that , they were amazing.
Wow. Another fish farm. Big deal. Nothing natural or exciting about it.
Largest salmon we ever caught was almost 6ft long and 100lbs out of dry creek in California before they rerouted that water way it's since almost dried up after it almost dried up we found an old wagon and the creek bed was littered with ol blue medicine bottles.
That would break the California state record of 88 pounds.
John McHatton
… the gmo’s are mushy before you cook them.
no its just a selectively bred king (chinook) salmon
I guess they idiots didn't realize that they pretty much gave away the location of there super secret farm ,that no 1 is supposed to know the location of .. at the end of the clip they say that the water comes from some very specific natural spring , it's definitely narrows down the location of a farm for any would be poachers..ughh that's the end of that species...lol
You can catch King Salmon in the wild off San Francisco boat charters via the harbour or in North California rivers like the Sacramento get up to 30-60lbs huge fish. Better for you than farmed salmon !
I have issues with that host on the right suggesting that fresh caught fish is somehow bad for you. Host on the left was looking like she was about to smack him too after what he said 😂
Now I’m starving.
How much they coast per pounds
She said she loves semen lol
Salmon is meh, Kahawai is without doubt the most underrated fish ever
"We can't tell you where this is" like that has ever stopped the internet. lol
First of all a tyee salmon is not a different type of subspecies, but a chinook that is over 30 pounds. It is also not the Wagyu of the sea because the best salmon to eat are in fact the smaller ones and sockeyes. These are also raised in a farm with is waaaay worse than anything you would buy is bc or the us. I do not believe they have a waiting list either that would be ridiculous
Fish so big it could feed 100 people. "It has been here since god knows when". I would think a fish THAT BIG, would be a little hard to miss....especially in a FISHERY!
I grew up fishing salmon of the pacific cost off Washington an Vancouver. A 60lb king maybe. But the chinooks are olny 20 to 35 on the larger side.
It's not a secret when I already know where the place is
I want 150 lb wild catfish
They say the Alaskan king salmon can pull a man into the freezing water to his death.
I have to agree with the guy at the end. Always be wary of seafood
There are no strick rules just fishing seasons.
If they are from BC and this guy says he was invited to catch one there it seems strange they would be in NZ. Clearly this is a fish farm, hopefully with the nice spring water there is no need for toxic chemicals to keep them healthy.
so Jeremy Wade didn't caught all monster fish in the world... he missed this one
farmed Salmon is disgusting
“So when do Trout (salmonids) have the shape of an Anvil?”
Great discovery, but do they still taste of putty like farmed salmon?
Got those in my local bass pro tank
I think it’s a gmo. ….but we just didn’t know it?
they must have named the salmon after the lund tyee boat
„I‘m Not into it“ hahaha
A fantastic story about King Salmon.
100 people in one city? wtf, why the "in one city", 50 villagers?
Takata south island new Zealand
In Canada they catch them every year and there wild .
The tyee salmon is just a Chinook salmon aka king salmon that just get big. 40lbs or more.
Omg this is the “Emergency Deffecation!” Lady
Wut in the world?!
Farmed fish is gross.
Yeah i need a bannana for scale
Farmed in fresh water.....yuk.
The waygu of Salmon lmao. In my language Tae means shit, so it makes sense being called Tyee Salmon, funny enough as i was typing this comment the reporter said its from Poo Poo spring 😂@4:00 lmao
Over dramatic. These fish are part of a breeding program . They have them up to a massive size in 2years. What is not kept for the breeding program go to sea cages. These fish are then harvested. The breeding program is about getting the best feed conversion possible in as short a time as possible. The breeding program based on selecting the best and not on gene manipulation.
I have caught 15 in a day kept 2 in Canada there very common up here
I think King salmon are not mushy before you cook them.
Farmed salmon are apparently one of the worst cancer causing foods out there because of what they're feed , pity cause they look mouth watering .
These aren’t regular salmon, they’re looked after differently
Looks like a cool fush. Can I get chups with that??😅
After eating an eel from a swamp I'll eat fish from the sea anytime
Farmed fish are no good. I live in Ireland 🇮🇪 and I just go to a river for an Atlantic sea trout or a salmon.
There was a rare type of salmon in new Zealand
Why have we got salmon farms here??
Not even good money if you have to grow them for 6+ years
It’s salmon…..🤷🏻♂️
It's a chinook salmon. Lol tyee don't fall for marketing ploy.
And you’re certain it’s a good thing?
I sincerely hope you know what you are talking about.
Salmon aren't native to NZ.
May I point out hedgehogs?
Farmed salmon. Frankensalmon. Take a look at their tails. half rotted off.
These are farm-raised salmon guys they're not even going to be able to get their color of meet naturally from the ocean they're going to be feeding these things pellets is it just like Atlantic salmon it's all farm-raised and you don't eat that you don't eat anything that comes out of fresh water the specially raw
They should share with the seals.
Hilarious misinformation. A Tyee is just any!! Chinook over 30lbs.
What's the matter with their voices?
Farm raised salmon are nasty🤮🤢
Poachers? Like the crown poached Māori land.
Gee wiz . A fish for the elite. They have their names on it. It would figure that this is centered in New Zealand .
I think king salmon get bigger
Mercury content?
Ora King Salmon
Because it’s farmed and not wild I am good thank you probably more than not being said you know this is the world of deception
Just genetic modify. Is it good and safe for humans? They will say yes for sure. Where are the proof is safe?
Beeg fush
Takaka
😂
Nz farm salmon no good.
Over priced
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