In Fallen Kingdom they said about the Indoraptor "it is the perfect blend of the two most dangerous creatures that have ever walked the earth." You could first assume that they mean T-Rex and raptor with this, but the Indominus Rex already had T-Rex and raptor DNA. So what if by "two most dangerous creatures that have ever walked the earth" they meant raptor and human?
If we go by this route, considering the fact that Indoraptor does contain DNA of Indominus Rex already, could the "blend of the two of the most dangerous creatures that have ever walked the earth" be a blend of Indominus and human?
@@kingofhearts3185given how egotistical Dr. Wu is, he most likely added his own DNA. Which makes sense how the Indoraptor was able to outsmart the humans and set traps, even toying with some of his victims.
the indoraptor was actually made using blends of some other animals but the main parts were the Indominus Rex and Blue (Velociraptor) DNA. but in that little gray area of other animals- maybe human could be in there
What makes this even more disturbing is that the Indominus and Indoraptor were essentially isolated their entire lives. In tight cages or enclosures, with little to no enrichment or roaming space. Canonically, this is why JWE Indo doesn't feel the need to escape when provided with the adequate housing. Movie Indos weren't treated like animals, they were products, worse still, they were weapons, tested on, and neglected.
Not completely, Indy had a sibling but she herself killed it while they were still young. Depending on how smart you want to believe she is she either killed her sibling to spare it the pain of their awful treatment or she just went the way of Jurassic Park’s Big One and just killed it because she felt like it ☹️☹️☹️
@LadyLeomon this is true of most species in nature, we see Indo capable of socializing with other species as an adult, I see it as a result of all the conflicting competitive genes. The Big One also killed several siblings, but retained at least two.
Being in a confined space wreaks havoc onto the psyche of any species. Even the most social species turn on their own, even their own siblings, if the stress gets big enough.
Something else to consider is that the Indominus and Indoraptor are capable of manipulating objects with their forelimbs to a degree that is only really seen in primates and some marsupials, since they clearly have something resembling wrists, hence why they're capable of holding their "hands" in both a pronated and non-pronated position. Side note: Yeah, it's really bizarre that the takeaways Trevorrow, Universal, and Dominion's writers had from Fallen Kingdom (even though he didn't direct it) were about the implications of human DNA in the hybrids and human cloning, even though they were by and large the least of Fallen Kingdom's problems.
@@Levinewak What about it? It didn’t have anywhere near the same level of dexterity as the Indo hybrids, much less modern primates, and its forelimbs are evolved for weight-bearing since it’s a facultative biped. It might have been capable of extremely limited degrees of manipulating objects, but again, it wouldn’t be remotely close to what the Indominus and Indoraptor pull off.
@@persianking44 Meanwhile in synced every animal can use stuff that needs human HANDS not opposable thumbs themselves HANDS Eg. Stormsonar (my iguanodon oc) using a axe, Sail (my spinosaurus oc) using a grenade, and elva (a tales of zale character) operating a control pannel. Yeah I did care about biology and accurracy for the ailens and dinos, but not anatomy.
The Indominus Rex was confirmed to have had Deinosuchus (which had 5 digits) and Abelisaurid DNA (which had 4 digits) so maybe that could have contributed to the Indominus' thumb? It's unlikely but I thought it should be said.
Ever since I watched Jurassic World in theaters I always felt that the Indominus Rex was spliced with human DNA, I mean you could argue that it's intelligence could've come from the Raptor DNA, but the opposable thumbs always rubbed me as human, and the way Owen would talk about the Indominus Rex felt as if it had human-like intelligence, "She does not even know what she is."
I think especially the line where Owen says “she’s hunting for sport” and it’s played as a pretty big reveal. Hunting for sport is a pretty human thing to do and that’s what I always thought that line meant
@@Bird_in_a_Trenchcoat Yeah with how much weight that line was given in the scene, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a remnant of an earlier version of the script with human genetics at play.
@@CryptidRenfri Most predators don't kill for fun necessarily. Rather if they see an animal that acts like prey, their instincts drive them to kill it. Foxes for example are known to kill entire chicken coops, but they still do it for food. Another reason is stimulation; Felines are extremely proficient hunters and if they're not hunting they get bored. Which can be seen as doing it for the fun of it, but it's more likely their instincts telling them to practice. And they're known for 'playing' with their prey, rather than killing in surplus. The fun part of killing for these animals is the hunt itself. The act of stalking and chasing prey. Not exactly killing for the sake of killing. The most evident instances of killing for fun in animals are intelligent ones. Orcas and dolphins especially. They often kill out of boredom, not out of the thrill of hunting. What the indominus does is more in line with the later.
Imagine the horror of a dinosaur with a human brain or parts if a human mind. The sheer agony of whatever mind was inside not being in sync with its body. Seeing little to no recognition in its pack mates but seeing so much in the creatures that torment it from beyond the fence. The stress of severe mental disorders only a human feel, but stuck in the body of an animal.
Until proven otherwise, I choose to believe that the Scorpius Rex, Indominus Rex, and Indoraptor all had a drop of Human DNA from none other than Dr. Wu himself. It only makes sense given his god complex at the time.
From my understanding, Charlotte used the technology to create a version of herself without the genetic condition she was originally born with. I believe the wedge came from Ben Lockwood, as he signed off on her using the technology but hid from John why she did. All John saw was the tech being used to clone a human being for giggles. I get the almost the same vibe about Umbrella's 3 founders and their respective Progenitor research.
Since the release of Jurassic World, I have maintained that the splicing of human DNA into the Indominus was a cut minor plotline. When we first see Claire in JW, she's dressed entirely in white. This is a visual callback to Hammond in JP1 who also wore entirely white, but for him that was to evoke the feeling of him being god-like, which is a commentary on how the character views himself (and ties into the biblical themes Ian Malcom brings to the table). However, for Claire, I feel like this also ties into the Indominus rex, which is also specifically stated to be entirely white. Why would you dress a protagonist in all white, when your antagonist is all white too? Unless there's meant to be a connection there. When Owen is questioning Claire about exactly what DNA went into making the Indominus, she touches her hair and looks away, clearly lying and/or withholding information. Until this point, Claire is characterised as little more then a high-ranking employee desperate to appease her boss and the company's shareholders by artificially manufacturing exactly what they want - an exceptionally dangerous, awe-inspiring dinosaur. I wouldn't put it past her character to have let Wu sample some of her own DNA and add it into the Indominus cocktail, to really give the dinosaur that fear factor that her superiors are looking for. This was all under the table, of course, which is why Claire is reluctant to answer Owen. As it stands in the final cut, her reluctance has no pay-off. They have a mounting situation and she wants to keep secrets from the one person who could help? No, it feels like they cut the pay-off where she finally reveals that the Indominus has some human DNA in it. How does Claire know? It's her DNA. The addition of human DNA also offers explanation to some of the Indomius' characteristics, like how it removed the tracker from it's own flesh, let alone understanding on a seemingly human level what the tracker even was and what it does. The Indominus also goes on a killing rampage, not for food, but seemingly just because it can. Most biological animals we know of do not demonstrate that kind of senseless behaviour... but humans do. So for me, at least, including some human DNA in the Indominus Rex works to explain some of it's characterisation and abilities. It's not longer *just* a dinosaur, but one that has some certifiable level of human intelligence.
Yea i thought this was established but i guess it wasn't?. What animal smiles at you fully knowing the situation. What animal hunts for sport. Tears out its own tracker. It sounds more like tracking vigilantes then some oversized regular carnivore !
I always liked the idea. Bur to be fair, felines and chimps murder for fun. Heck, chimps will chow down on baby chimps when they get bored. They will war against gorillas, take their babies, and eat ‘em. I think chimp DNA makes sense. Those things out do us in primal savagery
Honestly this is a really good analysis and take...It's also more believable than, as some have proposed, Woo putting his own dna in, because this way there is a clear connection between antagonist and protagonist as well as the fact that many people forget: the indominus was bred as a female, like any other dinosaur in the movies, this would make it even more fitting to have her be a part of the female antagonist rather than just Woo
i still couldn't understand, why Colin decided to changed it and decide Maisie was cloned by her mother Charlotte who was exact identical to her and Lockwood decided to lie but gave information to Mills anyway....what, why?
@@legendary5733 because it didn't make sense in the first place because in fallen Kingdom masie is only 11 years old which means Charlotte made her in 2007 and john Hammond died in 1997 or 1998
@@Uselessmouth12 that was never mentioned in any of the canon not in The dinosaur protection group Camp cretaceous Dinotracker Or even dominion No what really caused the fallout was Lockwood was thinking that instead of using genetic power for entertainment he thought that they could use it to save lives by creating clones But John Hammond called that unholy and decided to void all connect with Benjamin but he never again considered cloning humans after that But when Charlotte made masie in order to hide her secret he tolled mills that he cloned her because he thought that would be better than having news spread of how you could create your own child but you will both die of a disease
I've never enjoyed the retcon Dominion made regarding Maise's creation. I feel like it overcomplicates an already established plot twist. Besides that, I remember the popular theory about the Indominus having human DNA in it. Could've sworn I remember hearing somewhere that Trevorrow commented on the theory and suggested it may become a plot point for one of the as of then upcoming films. That obviously didn't happen. 🤷♂️
One idea I had honestly expected during the Film's release before I saw it and during my first viewing of it, was that there would've been a scene where the Indominus ends up drowning in the lagoon with it letting out a guttural screeching and distorted voice screaming out for help like a Human in a very disturbing and unnatural manner, until it eventually drowns or gets attacked by the Mosasaur.
Like a distorted mix between animalistic screech and humanoid growl? Honestly, the closest I can think of is the bear from Annihilation, and to hear that but from a giant dinosaur would be chilling.
With the way Not-Dodgson was screaming about Maisie in FK and how the Indoraptor was trying to get to her, I was honestly expecting her to be some kind of Alien Resurrection style Dino-human hybrid. Which would have been darkly humorous if we had a dominion scene where Owen and Claire get her a puppy….but then she just rips it apart and eats it.
On the subject of cloning humans, I noticed something I haven't seen anybody else mention. It's a piece of JP extended media, a PC game from like 2003. It was called JP3 Dinosaur Battles. I distinctly remember mass cloning being the big schtick as you would control your own squad of dinosaurs against armies of Injen's own. However there was a recurring character that kept coming up called Primo. He was a human that Injen successfully cloned 3 times and you find him in various states of... sanity. But, I have no idea why nor where the project went because I was like 6 when I played it. I also thought it was just a bit of a humorous parallel about a game from 03 about literally controlling the dinosaurs, militarizing them, and cloning humans winds up being a big theoretic part of the JW trilogy... and nobody has brought it up. I'm sure there probably really isn't any kind of canon credibility to Dinosaur Battles, I just like to believe that maybe my nostalgia goes deeper than I first thought because to me it looks like Universal retreading old ideas
The opposable thumb was also seen on the Scorpios Rex in Camp Cretaceous, so they were canonically playing with this idea for a long time. I am personally a fan of the idea of human DNA being incorporated into these hybrids. It does feel a bit like 90s science fiction, but in a good way that adds to the alien nature of the hybrids we've seen, adds a bit of creepiness as they can be so different yet familiar at the same time, makes them more complex on the lines of a serial killer as opposed to the more simple animalistic monsters, and it opens up the door to the horrifying thought of human experimentation in the Jurassic Universe as well as having us, the audience, ask ourselves about the ethics of such experiments. I also agree with how it felt as if they suddenly switched directions for the franchise after Fallen Kingdom. This also appears to have affected Camp Cretaceous after the end of Season 3. It looked as if they were going down one direction for some time, only to suddenly change and go down a different direction after the negative feedback for Fallen Kingdom. Unfortunately, that new direction was the wrong direction. I hope there's a behind the scenes encyclopedia that will explain the development of the new trilogy and Camp Cretaceous so we can see what ideas they originally had.
The existence of opposable thumbs may not have been confirmed by the characters in the movie, the fact that they have them at all is enough to be believable. Maybe they rushed the hybrids out too quick. Jurassic World could showcase Giganotosaurus, Fallen Kingdom would showcase Indominus rex while still keeping the mansion aesthetic, then Indoraptor should have reserved for a hypothetical third movie only looking even more uncanny like the Scorpius rex. Talk about making Dodgson all the more frightening.
I still love the idea that the Indominus Rex actually was a clone of Benjamin Lockwood’s Daughter just like Maisie. It’s a human mind locked in the body of a monster. It’s the same mind as Maisie just inside the Indo Rex. Every time that thing roars, it’s not aggression, it’s screaming in horror.
another piece of evidence in Jurassic world that some what supported the human/primate DNA in the I-Rex is the fact that it was killing for sport as seen with the Apatosaurs
While a criminally underexplored topic, the source of the human DNA should be Claire. Her hubris, color theme, and cold indifference to everything (including not wanting kids like her sister) would serve as a thematic juxtaposition to the hybrid (also possible the hybrid inherited genetic/epigenetic traits from Claire).
Can you imagine a Jurassic Park with human-dino hybrids but it’s a body horror like in Jeff Goldblum’s ‘The Fly’. A character you follow throughout the film, after being captured and genetically modified, slowly begins falling apart and losing their humanity, taking on dinosaur like behaviours and instincts as their companions try to save them but in the end aren’t able to.
They changed the tonal direction in Dominion and nothing more. The fact that a woman did the human cloning on herself and impregnated herself with her clone is the same thing: cloning a human with a DNA sample. The use of a womb rather than a vat changes nothing. The implication remains that the Lockwoods were creeps who fiddled with human DNA in the lab and that's why Hammond cut ties with them. He'd be just as mad at old man Lockwood for covering for his daughter and supporting her that way as he'd be mad at the person who tampered with human DNA directly. As such, the idea that Wu used human DNA in the Indominus and that this transferred to the Indoraptor still makes perfect sense. It would also contribute to his gradual change in demeanor as he grew more and more guilty with the crimes he had committed against nature. The Indom and the Indo have nothing to do with the conflict in Dominion and Wu needs the trust of the others to fix the locust situation, so he has good reason to continue keeping the secret throughout that film.
Agreed. I thought i missed something. The point of the scene was that maisy isnt some freak but a creation of love. Still a human clone which was crossing a line in hammonds eyes
I always side with Chris Pratt's line as Owens when people try to discuss this farce of a theory in a movie about DINOSAURS. "They're dinosaurs, wow enough"
Well you heard of cloning right? Evil scientist revives creature through science. Then releases it on bikini island. Because he's mad at his gal and wants revenge on everyone. 😃😁🥰
When I saw Jurassic World for the first time being a young teen, I was blown away. The story was amazing, the dinosaurs were incredible and everything was just perfect. Terrifying and action packed as well! Kept you on the edge of your seat. All of the theories are equally as terrifying and fascinating, I love them all.
The way the animals emote(Indominus methodical killing, Indoraptor smirking at the poachers demise) gives me no doubt that yeah human DNA was put into it what pisses me off is the movies/directors at the time go out of their way to say no thats stupid to their audience yet leave obvious hints that they do put human DNA in them, and even if you did realistically it wouldn't do much mostly up to the brain and regions of potential reasoning(cause thats like we use pig organs, and fish skin for burn victims that doesn't mean where gonna develop attributes like them mentally) or how we cross the genes of spiders into goats so their milk will produce silk, that doesnt mean the goat will eat flies then. I know its a movie I don't mind science fantasy but just go and stated already yeah we got humans in them, instead of gaslighting your audience by confusing them with the whole genetic tampering thing. Hints be like -Maisy and Indoraptor screaming at each other in the museum glass(bloody mary style). -Blue being trained to understand commands and english to a certain extent beyond dogs. -Indominus talking to the raptors and getting them to agree with her(I don't care what amount of raptor dna you put in her that still BS) -Indominus legit planting her tracker like a serial killer waiting. Like I don't mind the franchise progressing forward, but I still stay with the original JP trilogy.
If you look at the franchise, has been toying with the idea of hybrids and clones since the late 90s and early 2000s, the idea was always there in JW, but the writers proved unsure if that would cause "offense" towards the die-hard fans; I remember from experience that the web was furious at the idea of putting weaponized dinos into the JP4 rumors (which was lightly integrated into JW with the trained Raptors). With the hybrid dino theme, it kind of blended in, and the idea of human DNA in Indominus and Indoraptor was never mentioned but there was visual evidence there; Same with human cloning. In the end with JWFK, all those concepts that had been maintained since the 2000s were ignored to give something less "Frankenstein's Monster" with Dominion, which again the die-hard fans hated...you can't please everyone lol. Anyway, I hope they take up those ideas because they were bizarrely great.
You mentioned in another video so long ago that even a single caveman was brought back in some Jurassic Park legendarium installment. This video lends some credence to that.
i thought maisie and the raptors had some kind of connection? what with the head tilting when she watched the video of Blue and such, as well as the reflection of her face with the overlay of the raptor. it would have been very Alien Resurrection for her to be the raptor queen or something but it wouldve been more interesting than what the final film gave us
I still believe this theory, and that all three hybrids(the indos, to do a FNAF reference) had some kind of primate DNA, but mist likely Dr. Wu’s DNA. This is not only due to their thumbs, but also their mannerisms & psychology. Constantly in the trilogy & CC, they acted in ways a wild animal wouldn’t, seemingly analyzing their opponents & taking pleasure in kills at a psychopathic level. This was most obvious with the indoraptor, who seemed to enjoy torturing others with fear.
i will never understand how in a franchise where they embrace everything and never retconned anything all of a sudden they retconned half of fallen kingdom only to create a much worse movie. dominion NOT embracing fallen kingdom actually damaged it imo, if it did, some explanations or payoffs for setups wouldve made fallen kingdom feel so much better. instead, what we got were non-jurassic locusts. cool. just great
Nice video of the most disturbing theory from Jurassic World and it seems to be pretty crazy and bonkers in my opinion about this disturbing theory of Jurassic World and great analyzing by the way. Great Work and as always, Take It Easy and Life Finds A Way.
There was an official poster posted by Universal Studios with the anatomy of the indominus and where each attribute was named with the corresponding dinosaur DNA. One of those being the opposable thumbs, (which the poster didn’t have to mention at all, but for some reason, they decided to put it on there). The description of the opposable thumbs said that the scientists were still decoding the DNA of the creature, and the opposable thumbs didn’t have a particular origin. Which, at least to me, makes the whole human hybrid thing more plausible. If it was simply ape or a different primate’s DNA where the opposable thumbs originated, it seems odd that they wouldn’t just say that outright. Also, during the four-year gap between Fallen Kingdom and Dominion, people were theorizing about Maisie being part raptor, because of how long Lockwood took to create her and that there were some… interesting scenes that made it look that way. From weird shots such as the lab scene, where it almost looks like she’s subconsciously tilting her head, to the face blend scene, where she and the indoraptor’s faces blend, making her look like a human-dinosaur hybrid. (The musical track that plays right after that scene is called “There’s Something About Maisie…” take that as you will.) Along with the theory about the indoraptor, if indominus had human DNA, the indoraptor most certainly did. That, and J.A. Bayona said in the Jurassic World visual guide that the indoraptor’s arms are very human… which seems like a confirmation. Don’t know if it is, but I still believe to this day, that all three of the hybrids, and Maisie, had some human/raptor DNA in them.
I was absolutely obsessed with Jurassic Park as a kid and would just like to express my thanks to you for making these videos. They've really helped rejuvenate my interest in the franchise over the years.
The only issue I had with the Indominus and Indoraptor, personally, was the lack of imagination. They look pretty weird to dinosaur nerds, but the general population doesn't see them as much different from other theropods. The only unique traits they had were the camouflage, opposable thumbs, and intelligence. If they made it look and behave uniquely, like giving it a beak or a prehensile tongue, or showing it kill animals with sadistic glee, that would be unique. Of course, that would only raise my personal rating of the trilogy slightly. My main issue with the trilogy as a whole is the lack of accuracy. It started to improve as the Jurassic Park trilogy went on (the Rex family, the Raptors having feathers and a complex language, etc), but they decided "Fuck accuracy!" and gave us the scaly CGI abominations.
Agreed. I never liked how restrained the hybrids were. This is a franchise where dinosaurs are genetically modified with DNA from modern animals, and yet the films never flesh them out more. The Indominus rex's camouflage ability is attributed to cuttlefish DNA, but if you look up videos of cuttlefish in action, they and other cephalopods can do more than just camouflage. It would have been so cool if it changed its skin texture to mimic leaves when it meets the ACU team, or rapidly flashed colors to hypnotize the raptors the same way cuttlefish do with prey. As for accuracy, one the one hand, I'd argue that this is a franchise mainly centered around the hubris of man and genetic engineering, with the dinosaurs being secondary to its main themes. On the flipside, Spielberg and Stan Winston did strive for accuracy in the first film, so I see your point.
Here is a theory of mine over the hybrids from the movies and Camp Cretaceous. When you take scorpios rex and indoraptor, they actually do share a lot of similarities. Way more than indominus and indoraptor. Remember when they said the asset was bigger than expected in JW ? And how CC tells us that Masrani hated the scorpios and wanted something more dinosauresque ? My point is that with that in mind you can clearly see the evolution of Wu's work on his hybrids all leading to the indoraptor. Still, my favourite "step" in that family remains the I-Rex.
I had gotten a “spoiler” for the jurassic park novels stating that raptors had human DNA mixed in to them in order to recreate certain behavior. This led me to read the Lost World novel in a constant state of disgust and pure shock. The raptors picking apart a b0dy and focusing on candy (and candy wrappers) where the first thing that rang alarm bells, and the first scene that made me almost throw up. Their pack dynamics being all screwed over because of no parenting was just as depressing, the description of their deaths and kills where just bone chilling because of the idea that somewhere in there they where partially human. The state of their living conditions, their behavior, every emotion was amplified with that false knowledge. Someone please tell me if they are as I am yet to read the first JP novel, but if not, still one hell of a theory because of how much more messed up it makes everything,
I'm not sure from where it came, but I remember an I-Rex image allegedly coming from official merch, which was heavily discussed in a JP forum I was at. The image listed each trait of the Indominus and what species DNA was the source for that trait... But the opposable thumb has ?? as the source. This lead a lot of the people on the post to the same theory, they were teasing human DNA in the Indominus, but that idea was scrapped.
I personally am convinced that human DNA was used in the creation of Wu’s abominations, yes, however the more cronenberg style hybrids of humans and dinosaurs would’ve completely killed the series even worse than how the sequel trilogy we received did.
I personally love the second part of Fallen Kingdom, best part of all the Jurassic World stuff. And the little girl Mayonnaise (or whatever her name was) did a perfectly reasonable choice for a little kid to let the dinosaurs out. It's also really good that she's the one to do it because nobody could have a better reason to be sympathetic towards the dinosaurs. I think it's genius. Although the thing with a small collection of dinosaurs escaping a basement and spreading all over the world is absolute bonkers, any helicopter with a high calibre sniper rifle and thermal scope could easily cancel all those dinosaurs within only about a day's hunting, they posed about as much threat to the world as a bunch of unusually aggressive wolves/bears/tigers would. If hundreds/thousands of one-way timeportals would appear across the world leading to our time from various points of the mesozoic era THEN we might've had a cause for concern.
This reminds me a review I saw about the movie. The guy who did it is a writer and really focuses on the points where a movie storytelling fails or has plotholes and also is a big fan of the Jurassic Park/World movies, so he put a lot of effort on their reviews of the saga. He basically destroyed the plot of Dominion; The two main plot points of it can't stand by themselves with a big suspension of disbelief(bigger than the usual for the Jurassic saga) by the viewer. First of all, there's no way the less than 50 dinosaurs that scaped from Lockwood Manor can turn in a global issue. Even accepting other people started to clone new dinosaurs, it's less than 5 years after the Loockwood incident. And the locust plot is based on a useless plan; Biosyn will get exposed as soon as the UN start investigating the incidents and they find there's locusts with prehistoric DNA that, casually, doesn't attack the crops sold by the same company that has the tech needed to clone the prehistoric locust... It would be a really short lawsuit. If Dodgson wants to put the world in a situation of dependency from Biosyn, with all the advanced genetics they control, there's better and more subtle ways to do it.
I dont think a sniper could do shit, im not biased but ima just say it Toro a carnotaurus individual survived an explosion to the face with minor skin burns.
@@NotRuyaki Snipers can disable armored vehicles but not an elephant sized bird? I understand your point and that the JP/JW creatures may have strengths and/or weaknesses that their real life counterparts did not, but imma have to respectfully disagree. That scene where Toro gets hit by an explosion btw, isn't that from the kid's show? I know it's canon, but stuff that happen in those episodes wouldn't happen the way they did if it were a live-action show. I'd argue that what happen in that show would most likely just be as these kids interpreted the events.
@@NotRuyaki "Minor skin burns"... Bro, half of that dinosaur's body looked like Freddy Krueger. It's honestly a miracle that Toro survived a week after that. He should've gotten an infection or been killed by another dinosaur.
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I'd say that Indominus Rex had _lemur_ DNA, Indoraptor had _Spider monkey_ and Scorpios Rex had _Capuchin monkey_ and there wasn't any _hominoid_ DNA involved 😇
Well, they intentionally had an official poster of Jurassic World outlying what the indominus was made out of. The poster had pointed out that it had opposable thumbs, but just said that the DNA was unknown. If it was something as simple as primate DNA, they probably would’ve revealed it.
I feel like people are overlooking Troodontids and modern day birds of prey. Their opposable appendages don't look too different from the Indominus' thumbs, so there could have just been some editing to make them the way they are in the movie
HOT TAKE: The actual secret of the Jurassic World film (the first of that trilogy) was the I-Rex's relation to the military overseeing the park's R&D. Think about it: 1) The military liaison won't shut up about weaponizing the raptor pack, but _never once_ even pays any kind of attention to the gigantic, genetically-engineered superkiller the park has in a cage. Even when it breaks out, the armed security that responds is not military but private forces hired by the park. 2) The I-Rex is mentioned to be a "sport hunter" that will kill anything it can catch just because it can, and even did so to its sibling shortly after hatching.... and then, in the middle of a jungle with a veritable buffet of humans, this animal randomly decides that _now_ it's going to communicate with another animal. Why? What makes the pack so special that it suddenly wants to communicate, especially since they're actively hunting it at the time? 3) Consider the pack itself. Blue, Charlie, Echo, Delta-- with the exception of Blue, thrse correspond with the NATO alphabet. Where's Alpha? And don't say it's Chris Pratt's character, as he asserts in the film itself that his role as alpha is very much adapted thru mutual benefit, not thru actual inborn leadership; submission to him is completely alien to the raptors' instincts, and they'll turn on him given the chance... yet this gigantic horrible beast has them pause. I think... and feel free to point out if/why/how I am being crazy: I think the I-Rex was not born an I-Rex. I think it was born a full-blooded raptor from the pack's clutch, taken at youth by the military, and subjected to all manner of *highly-illegal* genetic splicing while itnwas alive, which I imagine was very painful and psychosis-inducing for the animal. This would explain many things about the film (and I'm really giving the writers way too much credit with this), such as why the military liaison seems so disinterested in something that should excite him far more than the raptors. The military illegally funded and backed live genetic manipulation of a borne animal, kept it under wraps to avoid liability, and then silently watched on when it broke loose to observe what it does in a populated area. It was all part of "the plan" that military leadership seems so fond of deferring when things go wrong.
Honestly a more simple theory could simply be that the Indominus had Concavenator DNA, the body shape is similar, the form of the head is similar, and the Concavenator on Lockwood’s manor also had opposable thumbs for… reasons
For the Indominus claws, Therizinosaurus was officially outed as a reference but as for the opposable thumb, the jury is still out. To me it's just because opposable thumbs are related to higher intelligence in our anthropocentric mindset, without even implying human DNA.
The Spinosaurus also used its arms and tore apart a plane and snapped a T-Rex's neck with its arms; does it have human DNA, too? And considering the fact that nothing in Jurassic World is natural, it doesn't seem that far-fetched for how any of this is possible.
Tbh I love both JW and JW:FK, with all the hybrid stuff. Indominus Rex and Indoraptor are easily the best dinos in the franchise. But the JW:D with that locust bullsh*t doesn’t make any sense to me and it kinda ruind the perfect franchise’s finale. I mean they created two of the most brutal and deadliest dino villains in their first two movies and then come up with LOCUST?! I was hoping we would get more of the hybrid stuff, with new info, backstories and maybe even another powerful hybrid.
Iguanodon kinda has thumbs though. Mixed with some theropod dna to replace the thumb claw with an actual finger and it might explain the Indo thumb. Or well, it's just the Chameleon.
6:58 I know my expanded headcannon explains more regarding the bizarre hybrids and Maisie's cloning (with Michael Crichton's: Next being used as inspiration).
I do wish Jurassic Park had taken more of a sci fi horror approach rather than the action movie style, I was pleasantly surprised when they created an actual monster with the I-Rex, but human-Dino hybrids would have been absolutely horrifying in a good way
@@KlaytonFioritiYou should make a video discussing if the Indominus Rex had Atrocitraptor and Pyroraptor DNA. Or how the Indoraptor could return in a future project.
Dilophosaurus actually had thumbs so the hybrids could've gained them from those. It also explains how the Dilo in the OG Jurassic Park opened the door to Nedry's Jeep. There was even a pterosaur named Monkeydactyl due to having thumbs. And as you showed, even today, chameleons have thumbs. So I would think that DNA from a reptile w thumbs would be more likely than a primate.
I still think they can use the idea of human dna being used for genetic power, it could even play a part the novel s original message of consequences with genetic power.
I admit some of that was cool, but dino human-Hyrbids always strike me as funny, goofy, and odd... When Alan Grant discussed his argument at the dinner table with Hammond and the rest, saying, how can we predict the outcome of humans and dinosaurs suddenly being thrown in the mix together?, never in my wildest fantasies dared I imagine the outcome would be half human and half dinosaur hybrids. It's just absurd, but it happens, in JW Evolution 1, the game on Steam, I remember the basic Triceratops having a human eye, which kinda looked offputting. The Indomitus Rex and I-raptor having human intelligence is beyond obvious... Indomitus even freaking talks to raptors and outsmarted people several times. The plot of JW needed the Indomitus rex to break free. And in the real world, you can't justify dinosaurs escaping their paddocks in JW's high-tech park... JP also had trapped the animals, until Nedry. So only a weaponized dinosaur could escape and explain how all the other dinosaurs got loose in JW... It was the only dinosaur smart enough to do it...The entire plot of JW was written to explain and justify how by the end of JW3 humanity could be stupid enough to bring dinosaurs to the populated world and let them escape into the wilds...to become permanent breeding residents...No matter how shitty it all really sounds. So there is a true "Jurassic World" now... And the hybrids had as smart as humans, knowing even how trackers and cameras work, with anti-bullet armored skin that can camouflage and hide from heat-seeking tech. And in JW lore, the cloned girl was created before JW and at the time of JP, so human cloning and genetic altering had already happened, mixing some human gene with dinosaurs as some freaky interests to see the result would obviously happen, but in a realistic sense, which JP was all about, even as a hook, you'd almost never keep those hybrids alife or show them to the public... If people knew the park they visited illegally created dinosaur-people it would be the worlds biggest scam and JP would be rightfully put to death xD
Dominion's whitewashing of Maisie's creation was really, really annoying. Masie would have been a more interesting character if she had to just deal with the outright fact that she is the product of science project and a man's futile attempt to bring his daughter back to life. As is, it's just more "science can solve anything" theme with Dominion that is just absolutely contrary to the themes of Jurassic Park (and most of World). Crichton would have enjoyed dealing with a character having to navigate being born this way, for these reasons, but Dominion just decided it didn't want to and tossed it out.
In a possible future trilogy, They should have people like the families of Dennis Nedry and Lewis Dodgson come forward accusing Dr. Wu of Being a Bio-terrorist and that the dinosaurs he created were not modified hybrids but rather were genetically engineered Bioweapons. As the case with the Dilophosaurus, Indominus Rex and the Indoraptor.
A theory I have ALWAYS been onboard with, I´d even go so far as to say Henry might´ve even used samples of his own dna if we go with the human dna being used insted of a chimp. Though I believe it was used to make the creature more intelligent, and the apposable thumbs were just a sideffect to that, similiar to the camoflague ability
this is assuming that human intelligence isn't already owed (in large part already) to having apposable thumbs (rather than the opposite---that thumbs are a byproduct of intelligence as you say it)....ie: it wouldn't have been POSSIBLE to gain our level of intelligence if we lacked the apposable thumbs. Mostly due to the loss of written language. The other major pre-requisite to human intelligence is SPOKEN language, that, although doesn't DIRECTLY require apposable thumbs to develop... its refinement certainly DID require written language to be developed. Complex and adpatable language capability, and the ability to MAKE and USE tools are fundamental to the development of intelligence. being a societal / community type species (one that benefits groups over individualism) -> ability to form complex adaptable language -> ability to learn from and teach others -> ability to recognize, fashion and use tools -> ability to delude oneself by ignoring a billion years of evolution that transformed apes into humans that had 2 sexes and genders and that we are biologically different and yet dependent for humanity's survival on the acceptance of that reality. -> death of humanity
I honestly thought the Doc was going to say the Indo had Raptor AND Primate DNA when the group was pressing him for answers on where the Genetic Makeup of the animal came from, not only would that answer the Raptor question on how they would communicate later on but why the Indo was so intelligent that it could literally make a plan to leave false scratch marks along the inclosure and trick them all into opening the pen. On another note it would make his speech to the Director more compelling as well. The speech where Woo goes off about how none of the dinosaurs are real, theyre basically genetic monsters and that the director ordered him to make something "Scary" for the park guests so he went off the books to do so. Also seeing a failure log of test subjects up to the final product would have hit that Wow Factor for everyone waiting for that reveal, seriously how fucked up would that be to see a mutant embryo like the one from Aliens, except instead of a XenoHuman baby its a botched Chimp and Raptor with all the dna patterns Woo mentioned. Cuttlefish and all, up until its the stable version of the Indominus
Honestly I think the first Dino to have human DNA in it is the JP3 Spino. That Dino felt way to intelligent and malevolent to be just a "regular" carnivore. I mean, just look at the fence scene in that film. It was literally waiting behind the humans and watching them menacingly rather than just mindlessly running at them.
Honestly, I wouldn't be bothered if the films did reveal Dr. Wu included a dash of human DNA into his hybrids just out of curiosity to see what effect it would have on them (which would be most likely his own DNA).
In Jurassic World, when the comment is made that the Indominus was just killing other dinosaurs & not even eating them, I was actually pretty sure that human dna was where they were going with the story
I stumbled onto your channel and am loving the content. I just subscribed. I love all of the Jurassic Park movies and was a huge dino-nerd as a kid. I often say, if there was no Star Wars, Jurassic Park would be my "Star Wars!" Thanks for the content; can't wait to see more!
In the original pitch of jurrassic world/jurrassic park 4 they had human dino hybrids, you can see it on the fandom page they legit had sketches of 2 legged dinos
Every time I hear about things like this, I wish a different director or a reboot went into the direction of being as "pure horror" as the books (never read them; have heard great things)
Well also there’s a scene in Jurassic World where they find a bunch of dinosaurs that Indominous had killed but not eaten. Which lead to the conclusion that it was killing for sport, as far as I know the only creature to have ever killed for sport were humans
This would have been a really cool way of representing how each entry in the "World" movies made the dinosaurs further and further from what dinosaurs are both visually and genetically. I liked Dominion and the Jurassic World movies' overarching theme of "coexisting with dinosaurs," but the first movie really does make it feel like combat dinosaurs and other genetic hybrids were going to show up. We still saw those later with the Endoraptor and genetically trained Raptors but it didn't feel like the next big step up from the Indominous Rex. Cloning was interesting but didn't go too far in Dominion other than giving closure and a sense of purpose to Maisie. It seemed like Dominion had a lot to juggle with dinosaurs across the country (and now whole world), a new threatening company, Dr. Wu and his genetic creations, and bringing back the old characters, so at least one had to sit on the back burner. Definitely feels like they didn't trust Dominion to be able to stand on it's own after Fallen Kingdom given the returning actors and backpedaling on Wu's obsession with genetic hybrids. Would love to see the Jurassic Park franchise continue forward, but beyond the Netflix show and more theme park rides I don't see anything really happening with the name.
I recmond reading the fanfic callled "Its not the raptor dna" its basically an AU where things go differenty and the Indominus does human DNA. Also its a redemption arc.
I never would have thought of the arms of a chameleon when I first saw that I thought it was the DNA was from at dinosaur with long claws. What was at called again? 😮
I'm glad you finally changed your intro to reflect your content, but I'm a little bummed you never got to discuss any of the other stuff the old intro teased, like Power Rangers and all that. Because I first found your page when the new series of JP/JW movies were first announced, it always felt like the algorithm dictated your content and you had to keep putting out JP videos to get views, and I was really looking forward to eventually getting your views and opinions on other pop culture touchstones.
I always supposed that all the hybrids had some human DNA on them. Those spines in the lab tanks are clearely humanoid. I would have liked some of that as long as they didn't went as far as Alien Resurrection nor those abominations drawn on the infamous concept art that are completely bonkers.
Let us not forget that the I-Rex is said to have chameleon DNA, too. This is how it camouflages itself. And like you said at the end of the video with the chameleon grabbing at the branch, we can say that it likely attributes it's "thumb" to their paws.
In Fallen Kingdom they said about the Indoraptor "it is the perfect blend of the two most dangerous creatures that have ever walked the earth." You could first assume that they mean T-Rex and raptor with this, but the Indominus Rex already had T-Rex and raptor DNA. So what if by "two most dangerous creatures that have ever walked the earth" they meant raptor and human?
If we go by this route, considering the fact that Indoraptor does contain DNA of Indominus Rex already, could the "blend of the two of the most dangerous creatures that have ever walked the earth" be a blend of Indominus and human?
Should have actually been a fusion of mosquito and human. Or phages and human.
@@tetyananovak3767 Yeah, I always assumed that line meant I-Rex and human.
@@kingofhearts3185given how egotistical Dr. Wu is, he most likely added his own DNA. Which makes sense how the Indoraptor was able to outsmart the humans and set traps, even toying with some of his victims.
the indoraptor was actually made using blends of some other animals but the main parts were the Indominus Rex and Blue (Velociraptor) DNA. but in that little gray area of other animals- maybe human could be in there
What makes this even more disturbing is that the Indominus and Indoraptor were essentially isolated their entire lives. In tight cages or enclosures, with little to no enrichment or roaming space.
Canonically, this is why JWE Indo doesn't feel the need to escape when provided with the adequate housing. Movie Indos weren't treated like animals, they were products, worse still, they were weapons, tested on, and neglected.
Not completely, Indy had a sibling but she herself killed it while they were still young. Depending on how smart you want to believe she is she either killed her sibling to spare it the pain of their awful treatment or she just went the way of Jurassic Park’s Big One and just killed it because she felt like it ☹️☹️☹️
Indo-Rex had a sibling, but it killed and ate it...
@LadyLeomon this is true of most species in nature, we see Indo capable of socializing with other species as an adult, I see it as a result of all the conflicting competitive genes. The Big One also killed several siblings, but retained at least two.
@@LadyLeomon Or she was just hungry and wasn't fed in time. Siblicide is surprisingly common in birds for this reason.
Being in a confined space wreaks havoc onto the psyche of any species. Even the most social species turn on their own, even their own siblings, if the stress gets big enough.
Doesn't change the fact that the most disturbing fact is that over 6 movies we never got a T-Rex vs Triceratops fight.
Damn you got me there
At least we got one in Jurassic Park: The Game.
Bro are you the Lock?
Bro are you the Lock?
@@mickmouse4650Are you on drugs?
Something else to consider is that the Indominus and Indoraptor are capable of manipulating objects with their forelimbs to a degree that is only really seen in primates and some marsupials, since they clearly have something resembling wrists, hence why they're capable of holding their "hands" in both a pronated and non-pronated position.
Side note: Yeah, it's really bizarre that the takeaways Trevorrow, Universal, and Dominion's writers had from Fallen Kingdom (even though he didn't direct it) were about the implications of human DNA in the hybrids and human cloning, even though they were by and large the least of Fallen Kingdom's problems.
I mean there is the monkey frog
What about Iguanodon?
@@Levinewak What about it? It didn’t have anywhere near the same level of dexterity as the Indo hybrids, much less modern primates, and its forelimbs are evolved for weight-bearing since it’s a facultative biped.
It might have been capable of extremely limited degrees of manipulating objects, but again, it wouldn’t be remotely close to what the Indominus and Indoraptor pull off.
@@persianking44
Meanwhile in synced every animal can use stuff that needs human HANDS not opposable thumbs themselves HANDS
Eg. Stormsonar (my iguanodon oc) using a axe, Sail (my spinosaurus oc) using a grenade, and elva (a tales of zale character) operating a control pannel.
Yeah I did care about biology and accurracy for the ailens and dinos, but not anatomy.
The Indominus Rex was confirmed to have had Deinosuchus (which had 5 digits) and Abelisaurid DNA (which had 4 digits) so maybe that could have contributed to the Indominus' thumb? It's unlikely but I thought it should be said.
Neither of those creatures have thumbs though.
@@Bagelgeuse
Meanwhile i'm just sitting here asking
What the f*ck is in your pfp?
im pretty sure those fingers, besides the main 3, are vestigial. we're talking about opposable thumbs that are clawed and jointed
Ever since I watched Jurassic World in theaters I always felt that the Indominus Rex was spliced with human DNA, I mean you could argue that it's intelligence could've come from the Raptor DNA, but the opposable thumbs always rubbed me as human, and the way Owen would talk about the Indominus Rex felt as if it had human-like intelligence, "She does not even know what she is."
I think especially the line where Owen says “she’s hunting for sport” and it’s played as a pretty big reveal. Hunting for sport is a pretty human thing to do and that’s what I always thought that line meant
@@Bird_in_a_Trenchcoat Yeah with how much weight that line was given in the scene, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a remnant of an earlier version of the script with human genetics at play.
@@Bird_in_a_Trenchcoatlots of real world predatory animals will spree kill for fun like that too.
Dogs and foxes are especially notorious for it.
@@CryptidRenfri Most predators don't kill for fun necessarily. Rather if they see an animal that acts like prey, their instincts drive them to kill it. Foxes for example are known to kill entire chicken coops, but they still do it for food. Another reason is stimulation; Felines are extremely proficient hunters and if they're not hunting they get bored. Which can be seen as doing it for the fun of it, but it's more likely their instincts telling them to practice. And they're known for 'playing' with their prey, rather than killing in surplus. The fun part of killing for these animals is the hunt itself. The act of stalking and chasing prey. Not exactly killing for the sake of killing. The most evident instances of killing for fun in animals are intelligent ones. Orcas and dolphins especially. They often kill out of boredom, not out of the thrill of hunting. What the indominus does is more in line with the later.
@TheBlueKio you have no idea what you're talking about.
Say less.
Imagine the horror of a dinosaur with a human brain or parts if a human mind. The sheer agony of whatever mind was inside not being in sync with its body. Seeing little to no recognition in its pack mates but seeing so much in the creatures that torment it from beyond the fence. The stress of severe mental disorders only a human feel, but stuck in the body of an animal.
Dear god. That’s a legitimately terrifying thought.
@@Chucklenuttur And a sad one.
That's a really interesting idea, wish the movies could've gone more in depth on these concepts.
This would've gone perfectly with the "She does not even know what she is." line in World.
@@DefinitelyNotATrolldier It also would have matched even better with the, 'horror' aspect the director wanted.
Until proven otherwise, I choose to believe that the Scorpius Rex, Indominus Rex, and Indoraptor all had a drop of Human DNA from none other than Dr. Wu himself.
It only makes sense given his god complex at the time.
Maybe some of Hammond's DNA....that'd be messed up for sure.
Hehe 😄
They all had thumbs, its kind of obvious?
That makes sense. Wu is crazy enough to do that.
Yeah, but blood or other fluids?
From my understanding, Charlotte used the technology to create a version of herself without the genetic condition she was originally born with. I believe the wedge came from Ben Lockwood, as he signed off on her using the technology but hid from John why she did. All John saw was the tech being used to clone a human being for giggles. I get the almost the same vibe about Umbrella's 3 founders and their respective Progenitor research.
Unrelated but Albert Wesker pfp 🙏🙏
Since the release of Jurassic World, I have maintained that the splicing of human DNA into the Indominus was a cut minor plotline.
When we first see Claire in JW, she's dressed entirely in white. This is a visual callback to Hammond in JP1 who also wore entirely white, but for him that was to evoke the feeling of him being god-like, which is a commentary on how the character views himself (and ties into the biblical themes Ian Malcom brings to the table). However, for Claire, I feel like this also ties into the Indominus rex, which is also specifically stated to be entirely white. Why would you dress a protagonist in all white, when your antagonist is all white too? Unless there's meant to be a connection there.
When Owen is questioning Claire about exactly what DNA went into making the Indominus, she touches her hair and looks away, clearly lying and/or withholding information. Until this point, Claire is characterised as little more then a high-ranking employee desperate to appease her boss and the company's shareholders by artificially manufacturing exactly what they want - an exceptionally dangerous, awe-inspiring dinosaur. I wouldn't put it past her character to have let Wu sample some of her own DNA and add it into the Indominus cocktail, to really give the dinosaur that fear factor that her superiors are looking for. This was all under the table, of course, which is why Claire is reluctant to answer Owen. As it stands in the final cut, her reluctance has no pay-off. They have a mounting situation and she wants to keep secrets from the one person who could help? No, it feels like they cut the pay-off where she finally reveals that the Indominus has some human DNA in it. How does Claire know? It's her DNA.
The addition of human DNA also offers explanation to some of the Indomius' characteristics, like how it removed the tracker from it's own flesh, let alone understanding on a seemingly human level what the tracker even was and what it does. The Indominus also goes on a killing rampage, not for food, but seemingly just because it can. Most biological animals we know of do not demonstrate that kind of senseless behaviour... but humans do.
So for me, at least, including some human DNA in the Indominus Rex works to explain some of it's characterisation and abilities. It's not longer *just* a dinosaur, but one that has some certifiable level of human intelligence.
That would've been really interesting if they revealed that the indominus has Claire’s DNA. Shame they didn't do it.
That’s what I thought was happening too!
Yea i thought this was established but i guess it wasn't?. What animal smiles at you fully knowing the situation. What animal hunts for sport. Tears out its own tracker. It sounds more like tracking vigilantes then some oversized regular carnivore !
I always liked the idea. Bur to be fair, felines and chimps murder for fun. Heck, chimps will chow down on baby chimps when they get bored. They will war against gorillas, take their babies, and eat ‘em.
I think chimp DNA makes sense. Those things out do us in primal savagery
Honestly this is a really good analysis and take...It's also more believable than, as some have proposed, Woo putting his own dna in, because this way there is a clear connection between antagonist and protagonist as well as the fact that many people forget: the indominus was bred as a female, like any other dinosaur in the movies, this would make it even more fitting to have her be a part of the female antagonist rather than just Woo
The thing that drove Hammond and lockwood apart was the fact that Benjamin was considering cloning humans
Collen confirmed this on his twitter
Colin is stupid. He retconned everything
i still couldn't understand, why Colin decided to changed it and decide Maisie was cloned by her mother Charlotte who was exact identical to her and Lockwood decided to lie but gave information to Mills anyway....what, why?
@@legendary5733 because it didn't make sense in the first place because in fallen Kingdom masie is only 11 years old which means Charlotte made her in 2007 and john Hammond died in 1997 or 1998
@@keironknapp7070It actually makes sense, Lockwood tried and failed to clone her for years and finally succeeded in 2007
@@Uselessmouth12 that was never mentioned in any of the canon not in
The dinosaur protection group
Camp cretaceous
Dinotracker
Or even dominion
No what really caused the fallout was
Lockwood was thinking that instead of using genetic power for entertainment he thought that they could use it to save lives by creating clones
But John Hammond called that unholy and decided to void all connect with Benjamin but he never again considered cloning humans after that
But when Charlotte made masie in order to hide her secret he tolled mills that he cloned her because he thought that would be better than having news spread of how you could create your own child but you will both die of a disease
I've never enjoyed the retcon Dominion made regarding Maise's creation. I feel like it overcomplicates an already established plot twist. Besides that, I remember the popular theory about the Indominus having human DNA in it. Could've sworn I remember hearing somewhere that Trevorrow commented on the theory and suggested it may become a plot point for one of the as of then upcoming films. That obviously didn't happen. 🤷♂️
I agree both the last 2 movies were bad
One idea I had honestly expected during the Film's release before I saw it and during my first viewing of it, was that there would've been a scene where the Indominus ends up drowning in the lagoon with it letting out a guttural screeching and distorted voice screaming out for help like a Human in a very disturbing and unnatural manner, until it eventually drowns or gets attacked by the Mosasaur.
Chills...
Would’ve been cringe
@@richardpost8789 Yeah maybe.
Like a distorted mix between animalistic screech and humanoid growl? Honestly, the closest I can think of is the bear from Annihilation, and to hear that but from a giant dinosaur would be chilling.
@@BeedrillEnjoyer Think of something more like a dinosaur trying to speak the human language exactly.
With the way Not-Dodgson was screaming about Maisie in FK and how the Indoraptor was trying to get to her, I was honestly expecting her to be some kind of Alien Resurrection style Dino-human hybrid.
Which would have been darkly humorous if we had a dominion scene where Owen and Claire get her a puppy….but then she just rips it apart and eats it.
There's probably an alternate timeline where this happened.
Aw man. That would not be humorous. But horrific.
On the subject of cloning humans, I noticed something I haven't seen anybody else mention. It's a piece of JP extended media, a PC game from like 2003. It was called JP3 Dinosaur Battles. I distinctly remember mass cloning being the big schtick as you would control your own squad of dinosaurs against armies of Injen's own. However there was a recurring character that kept coming up called Primo. He was a human that Injen successfully cloned 3 times and you find him in various states of... sanity. But, I have no idea why nor where the project went because I was like 6 when I played it. I also thought it was just a bit of a humorous parallel about a game from 03 about literally controlling the dinosaurs, militarizing them, and cloning humans winds up being a big theoretic part of the JW trilogy... and nobody has brought it up.
I'm sure there probably really isn't any kind of canon credibility to Dinosaur Battles, I just like to believe that maybe my nostalgia goes deeper than I first thought because to me it looks like Universal retreading old ideas
The opposable thumb was also seen on the Scorpios Rex in Camp Cretaceous, so they were canonically playing with this idea for a long time. I am personally a fan of the idea of human DNA being incorporated into these hybrids. It does feel a bit like 90s science fiction, but in a good way that adds to the alien nature of the hybrids we've seen, adds a bit of creepiness as they can be so different yet familiar at the same time, makes them more complex on the lines of a serial killer as opposed to the more simple animalistic monsters, and it opens up the door to the horrifying thought of human experimentation in the Jurassic Universe as well as having us, the audience, ask ourselves about the ethics of such experiments.
I also agree with how it felt as if they suddenly switched directions for the franchise after Fallen Kingdom. This also appears to have affected Camp Cretaceous after the end of Season 3. It looked as if they were going down one direction for some time, only to suddenly change and go down a different direction after the negative feedback for Fallen Kingdom. Unfortunately, that new direction was the wrong direction. I hope there's a behind the scenes encyclopedia that will explain the development of the new trilogy and Camp Cretaceous so we can see what ideas they originally had.
The existence of opposable thumbs may not have been confirmed by the characters in the movie, the fact that they have them at all is enough to be believable. Maybe they rushed the hybrids out too quick. Jurassic World could showcase Giganotosaurus, Fallen Kingdom would showcase Indominus rex while still keeping the mansion aesthetic, then Indoraptor should have reserved for a hypothetical third movie only looking even more uncanny like the Scorpius rex. Talk about making Dodgson all the more frightening.
I read your comment in a way that said
"The scorpios rex talking"
And that is very funny and horrifying at the same time.
@@the_blue_jay_raptor “Alan!”
@@oscarstainton "Owen," the Scorpius Rex said calmly.
I still love the idea that the Indominus Rex actually was a clone of Benjamin Lockwood’s Daughter just like Maisie. It’s a human mind locked in the body of a monster. It’s the same mind as Maisie just inside the Indo Rex. Every time that thing roars, it’s not aggression, it’s screaming in horror.
that's not how DNA works
@@neo-filthyfrank1347this entire series is not how DNA works but here we are.
@@tearex8688 Yes and the series is garbage, funny how that works.
@@tearex8688
Out for tea I suppose?
Now you've made me want to cry.😢 Thanks.
another piece of evidence in Jurassic world that some what supported the human/primate DNA in the I-Rex is the fact that it was killing for sport as seen with the Apatosaurs
Eh, I don't think so. The same arguement could be made for the I.rex having cat DNA since cats also kill for "sport".
a lot of animal species out there kills for sport, not just humans. its much more common than most people believe.
Or maybe Orca DNA, since they also kill for sport.
While a criminally underexplored topic, the source of the human DNA should be Claire.
Her hubris, color theme, and cold indifference to everything (including not wanting kids like her sister) would serve as a thematic juxtaposition to the hybrid (also possible the hybrid inherited genetic/epigenetic traits from Claire).
Wouldve been infinitely cooler to focus on this than the the fireproof grasshoppers
They were kinda fire tho. 💀🔥
Can you imagine a Jurassic Park with human-dino hybrids but it’s a body horror like in Jeff Goldblum’s ‘The Fly’.
A character you follow throughout the film, after being captured and genetically modified, slowly begins falling apart and losing their humanity, taking on dinosaur like behaviours and instincts as their companions try to save them but in the end aren’t able to.
Terrible idea
The goat has uploaded
Messi?
@@nerychristianno the one from Jurassic Park
They changed the tonal direction in Dominion and nothing more. The fact that a woman did the human cloning on herself and impregnated herself with her clone is the same thing: cloning a human with a DNA sample. The use of a womb rather than a vat changes nothing. The implication remains that the Lockwoods were creeps who fiddled with human DNA in the lab and that's why Hammond cut ties with them. He'd be just as mad at old man Lockwood for covering for his daughter and supporting her that way as he'd be mad at the person who tampered with human DNA directly.
As such, the idea that Wu used human DNA in the Indominus and that this transferred to the Indoraptor still makes perfect sense. It would also contribute to his gradual change in demeanor as he grew more and more guilty with the crimes he had committed against nature. The Indom and the Indo have nothing to do with the conflict in Dominion and Wu needs the trust of the others to fix the locust situation, so he has good reason to continue keeping the secret throughout that film.
Agreed. I thought i missed something. The point of the scene was that maisy isnt some freak but a creation of love. Still a human clone which was crossing a line in hammonds eyes
I always side with Chris Pratt's line as Owens when people try to discuss this farce of a theory in a movie about DINOSAURS.
"They're dinosaurs, wow enough"
Tell that to the idiots that made the Indominus in the first place.
@rkaale2497 i feel bad for the indominus all she was made for money
The Indominus Rex was a great edition to the Jurassic franchise. That's just my opinion! Excellent video, Klayton! Keep up the great work!
Hope they bring her back in a future film. 🙏
@@hackman669 How? It's dead since 2015, killed and dragged down at Mosasaurus lagoon where only skeleton remains. JUST HOW?
Well you heard of cloning right? Evil scientist revives creature through science. Then releases it on bikini island. Because he's mad at his gal and wants revenge on everyone. 😃😁🥰
@@hackman669 But they don't have DNA
Genuinely my favorite dinosaur in the franchise. Such a tragic character when you think about it
When I saw Jurassic World for the first time being a young teen, I was blown away. The story was amazing, the dinosaurs were incredible and everything was just perfect. Terrifying and action packed as well! Kept you on the edge of your seat. All of the theories are equally as terrifying and fascinating, I love them all.
We can't forget about the Scorpius Rex from CC, either. That thing looked freakishly humanoid.
I still can't forgive Dominion for what it did with Massey's story and how it just ruined a very interesting plot, and replaced it with a plot hole.
In the "Carnosaur" series, the dinosaurs also contain some human DNA. In a Roger Corman production, that's fine because it's obviously camp.
Now if only that series could be made with a decent budget an stick to the books.
I'm pretty sure that a theorist puts more thought and time into their ideas than the screenwriters and director do into the movies these days.
That happens so many times.
The way the animals emote(Indominus methodical killing, Indoraptor smirking at the poachers demise) gives me no doubt that yeah human DNA was put into it what pisses me off is the movies/directors at the time go out of their way to say no thats stupid to their audience yet leave obvious hints that they do put human DNA in them, and even if you did realistically it wouldn't do much mostly up to the brain and regions of potential reasoning(cause thats like we use pig organs, and fish skin for burn victims that doesn't mean where gonna develop attributes like them mentally) or how we cross the genes of spiders into goats so their milk will produce silk, that doesnt mean the goat will eat flies then. I know its a movie I don't mind science fantasy but just go and stated already yeah we got humans in them, instead of gaslighting your audience by confusing them with the whole genetic tampering thing.
Hints be like
-Maisy and Indoraptor screaming at each other in the museum glass(bloody mary style).
-Blue being trained to understand commands and english to a certain extent beyond dogs.
-Indominus talking to the raptors and getting them to agree with her(I don't care what amount of raptor dna you put in her that still BS)
-Indominus legit planting her tracker like a serial killer waiting.
Like I don't mind the franchise progressing forward, but I still stay with the original JP trilogy.
If you look at the franchise, has been toying with the idea of hybrids and clones since the late 90s and early 2000s, the idea was always there in JW, but the writers proved unsure if that would cause "offense" towards the die-hard fans; I remember from experience that the web was furious at the idea of putting weaponized dinos into the JP4 rumors (which was lightly integrated into JW with the trained Raptors).
With the hybrid dino theme, it kind of blended in, and the idea of human DNA in Indominus and Indoraptor was never mentioned but there was visual evidence there; Same with human cloning.
In the end with JWFK, all those concepts that had been maintained since the 2000s were ignored to give something less "Frankenstein's Monster" with Dominion, which again the die-hard fans hated...you can't please everyone lol.
Anyway, I hope they take up those ideas because they were bizarrely great.
I remember this! Everybody (myself included) was disgusted at the idea of having a half-human, half-dinosaur hybrid. 🤣
Rightfully so.
I wasn't such namby's they are.
You mentioned in another video so long ago that even a single caveman was brought back in some Jurassic Park legendarium installment. This video lends some credence to that.
i thought maisie and the raptors had some kind of connection? what with the head tilting when she watched the video of Blue and such, as well as the reflection of her face with the overlay of the raptor. it would have been very Alien Resurrection for her to be the raptor queen or something but it wouldve been more interesting than what the final film gave us
The way the Indomenous Raptor was interested in Maisy added to the creep and eeriness factor of it.
I still believe this theory, and that all three hybrids(the indos, to do a FNAF reference) had some kind of primate DNA, but mist likely Dr. Wu’s DNA. This is not only due to their thumbs, but also their mannerisms & psychology. Constantly in the trilogy & CC, they acted in ways a wild animal wouldn’t, seemingly analyzing their opponents & taking pleasure in kills at a psychopathic level. This was most obvious with the indoraptor, who seemed to enjoy torturing others with fear.
Not a theory. Hypothesis.
i will never understand how in a franchise where they embrace everything and never retconned anything all of a sudden they retconned half of fallen kingdom only to create a much worse movie. dominion NOT embracing fallen kingdom actually damaged it imo, if it did, some explanations or payoffs for setups wouldve made fallen kingdom feel so much better.
instead, what we got were non-jurassic locusts. cool. just great
You forgot that the Scorpios Rex also has thumbs and a more humanoid like posture.
Nice video of the most disturbing theory from Jurassic World and it seems to be pretty crazy and bonkers in my opinion about this disturbing theory of Jurassic World and great analyzing by the way.
Great Work and as always, Take It Easy and Life Finds A Way.
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@@the_blue_jay_raptor, do you have a problem with that?
That was JURASSIC PARK: EVILUTION, at Universal Halloween Horror Nights!
There was an official poster posted by Universal Studios with the anatomy of the indominus and where each attribute was named with the corresponding dinosaur DNA. One of those being the opposable thumbs, (which the poster didn’t have to mention at all, but for some reason, they decided to put it on there). The description of the opposable thumbs said that the scientists were still decoding the DNA of the creature, and the opposable thumbs didn’t have a particular origin. Which, at least to me, makes the whole human hybrid thing more plausible. If it was simply ape or a different primate’s DNA where the opposable thumbs originated, it seems odd that they wouldn’t just say that outright.
Also, during the four-year gap between Fallen Kingdom and Dominion, people were theorizing about Maisie being part raptor, because of how long Lockwood took to create her and that there were some… interesting scenes that made it look that way. From weird shots such as the lab scene, where it almost looks like she’s subconsciously tilting her head, to the face blend scene, where she and the indoraptor’s faces blend, making her look like a human-dinosaur hybrid. (The musical track that plays right after that scene is called “There’s Something About Maisie…” take that as you will.)
Along with the theory about the indoraptor, if indominus had human DNA, the indoraptor most certainly did. That, and J.A. Bayona said in the Jurassic World visual guide that the indoraptor’s arms are very human… which seems like a confirmation. Don’t know if it is, but I still believe to this day, that all three of the hybrids, and Maisie, had some human/raptor DNA in them.
I was absolutely obsessed with Jurassic Park as a kid and would just like to express my thanks to you for making these videos. They've really helped rejuvenate my interest in the franchise over the years.
Honestly, I like when movie directors leave some open, unanswered questions. Theorising and thinking about possible answers is just so much fun!
The only issue I had with the Indominus and Indoraptor, personally, was the lack of imagination. They look pretty weird to dinosaur nerds, but the general population doesn't see them as much different from other theropods. The only unique traits they had were the camouflage, opposable thumbs, and intelligence. If they made it look and behave uniquely, like giving it a beak or a prehensile tongue, or showing it kill animals with sadistic glee, that would be unique.
Of course, that would only raise my personal rating of the trilogy slightly. My main issue with the trilogy as a whole is the lack of accuracy. It started to improve as the Jurassic Park trilogy went on (the Rex family, the Raptors having feathers and a complex language, etc), but they decided "Fuck accuracy!" and gave us the scaly CGI abominations.
Agreed. I never liked how restrained the hybrids were. This is a franchise where dinosaurs are genetically modified with DNA from modern animals, and yet the films never flesh them out more. The Indominus rex's camouflage ability is attributed to cuttlefish DNA, but if you look up videos of cuttlefish in action, they and other cephalopods can do more than just camouflage. It would have been so cool if it changed its skin texture to mimic leaves when it meets the ACU team, or rapidly flashed colors to hypnotize the raptors the same way cuttlefish do with prey.
As for accuracy, one the one hand, I'd argue that this is a franchise mainly centered around the hubris of man and genetic engineering, with the dinosaurs being secondary to its main themes. On the flipside, Spielberg and Stan Winston did strive for accuracy in the first film, so I see your point.
Scorpious rex was f*****n creepy though. THAT is the stuff of nightmares
Here is a theory of mine over the hybrids from the movies and Camp Cretaceous. When you take scorpios rex and indoraptor, they actually do share a lot of similarities. Way more than indominus and indoraptor. Remember when they said the asset was bigger than expected in JW ? And how CC tells us that Masrani hated the scorpios and wanted something more dinosauresque ? My point is that with that in mind you can clearly see the evolution of Wu's work on his hybrids all leading to the indoraptor. Still, my favourite "step" in that family remains the I-Rex.
I always thought that the Indominus , and the Indoraptor had chimpanzee DNA in them.
Makes sense because chimpanzees are brutally vicious little monsters.
Maybe wolverine DNA.
I had gotten a “spoiler” for the jurassic park novels stating that raptors had human DNA mixed in to them in order to recreate certain behavior. This led me to read the Lost World novel in a constant state of disgust and pure shock.
The raptors picking apart a b0dy and focusing on candy (and candy wrappers) where the first thing that rang alarm bells, and the first scene that made me almost throw up. Their pack dynamics being all screwed over because of no parenting was just as depressing, the description of their deaths and kills where just bone chilling because of the idea that somewhere in there they where partially human. The state of their living conditions, their behavior, every emotion was amplified with that false knowledge.
Someone please tell me if they are as I am yet to read the first JP novel, but if not, still one hell of a theory because of how much more messed up it makes everything,
Prion disease was warping them.
I'm not sure from where it came, but I remember an I-Rex image allegedly coming from official merch, which was heavily discussed in a JP forum I was at.
The image listed each trait of the Indominus and what species DNA was the source for that trait... But the opposable thumb has ?? as the source. This lead a lot of the people on the post to the same theory, they were teasing human DNA in the Indominus, but that idea was scrapped.
I personally am convinced that human DNA was used in the creation of Wu’s abominations, yes, however the more cronenberg style hybrids of humans and dinosaurs would’ve completely killed the series even worse than how the sequel trilogy we received did.
Mixing dinosaurs with modern animals would be a really cool idea for a one off film
As part of the universe of JP.
I personally love the second part of Fallen Kingdom, best part of all the Jurassic World stuff. And the little girl Mayonnaise (or whatever her name was) did a perfectly reasonable choice for a little kid to let the dinosaurs out. It's also really good that she's the one to do it because nobody could have a better reason to be sympathetic towards the dinosaurs. I think it's genius. Although the thing with a small collection of dinosaurs escaping a basement and spreading all over the world is absolute bonkers, any helicopter with a high calibre sniper rifle and thermal scope could easily cancel all those dinosaurs within only about a day's hunting, they posed about as much threat to the world as a bunch of unusually aggressive wolves/bears/tigers would. If hundreds/thousands of one-way timeportals would appear across the world leading to our time from various points of the mesozoic era THEN we might've had a cause for concern.
This reminds me a review I saw about the movie. The guy who did it is a writer and really focuses on the points where a movie storytelling fails or has plotholes and also is a big fan of the Jurassic Park/World movies, so he put a lot of effort on their reviews of the saga.
He basically destroyed the plot of Dominion; The two main plot points of it can't stand by themselves with a big suspension of disbelief(bigger than the usual for the Jurassic saga) by the viewer.
First of all, there's no way the less than 50 dinosaurs that scaped from Lockwood Manor can turn in a global issue. Even accepting other people started to clone new dinosaurs, it's less than 5 years after the Loockwood incident.
And the locust plot is based on a useless plan; Biosyn will get exposed as soon as the UN start investigating the incidents and they find there's locusts with prehistoric DNA that, casually, doesn't attack the crops sold by the same company that has the tech needed to clone the prehistoric locust... It would be a really short lawsuit. If Dodgson wants to put the world in a situation of dependency from Biosyn, with all the advanced genetics they control, there's better and more subtle ways to do it.
I dont think a sniper could do shit, im not biased but ima just say it
Toro a carnotaurus individual survived an explosion to the face with minor skin burns.
@@NotRuyaki Snipers can disable armored vehicles but not an elephant sized bird?
I understand your point and that the JP/JW creatures may have strengths and/or weaknesses that their real life counterparts did not, but imma have to respectfully disagree.
That scene where Toro gets hit by an explosion btw, isn't that from the kid's show? I know it's canon, but stuff that happen in those episodes wouldn't happen the way they did if it were a live-action show. I'd argue that what happen in that show would most likely just be as these kids interpreted the events.
@@NotRuyaki "Minor skin burns"...
Bro, half of that dinosaur's body looked like Freddy Krueger. It's honestly a miracle that Toro survived a week after that. He should've gotten an infection or been killed by another dinosaur.
@@Bagelgeuse alr fair point, i heavily downplayed that part, still op tho because that blast evaporates any other animal
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I'd say that Indominus Rex had _lemur_ DNA, Indoraptor had _Spider monkey_ and Scorpios Rex had _Capuchin monkey_ and there wasn't any _hominoid_ DNA involved 😇
Well, they intentionally had an official poster of Jurassic World outlying what the indominus was made out of. The poster had pointed out that it had opposable thumbs, but just said that the DNA was unknown. If it was something as simple as primate DNA, they probably would’ve revealed it.
I feel like people are overlooking Troodontids and modern day birds of prey. Their opposable appendages don't look too different from the Indominus' thumbs, so there could have just been some editing to make them the way they are in the movie
HOT TAKE:
The actual secret of the Jurassic World film (the first of that trilogy) was the I-Rex's relation to the military overseeing the park's R&D. Think about it:
1) The military liaison won't shut up about weaponizing the raptor pack, but _never once_ even pays any kind of attention to the gigantic, genetically-engineered superkiller the park has in a cage. Even when it breaks out, the armed security that responds is not military but private forces hired by the park.
2) The I-Rex is mentioned to be a "sport hunter" that will kill anything it can catch just because it can, and even did so to its sibling shortly after hatching.... and then, in the middle of a jungle with a veritable buffet of humans, this animal randomly decides that _now_ it's going to communicate with another animal. Why? What makes the pack so special that it suddenly wants to communicate, especially since they're actively hunting it at the time?
3) Consider the pack itself. Blue, Charlie, Echo, Delta-- with the exception of Blue, thrse correspond with the NATO alphabet. Where's Alpha? And don't say it's Chris Pratt's character, as he asserts in the film itself that his role as alpha is very much adapted thru mutual benefit, not thru actual inborn leadership; submission to him is completely alien to the raptors' instincts, and they'll turn on him given the chance... yet this gigantic horrible beast has them pause.
I think... and feel free to point out if/why/how I am being crazy: I think the I-Rex was not born an I-Rex. I think it was born a full-blooded raptor from the pack's clutch, taken at youth by the military, and subjected to all manner of *highly-illegal* genetic splicing while itnwas alive, which I imagine was very painful and psychosis-inducing for the animal.
This would explain many things about the film (and I'm really giving the writers way too much credit with this), such as why the military liaison seems so disinterested in something that should excite him far more than the raptors. The military illegally funded and backed live genetic manipulation of a borne animal, kept it under wraps to avoid liability, and then silently watched on when it broke loose to observe what it does in a populated area.
It was all part of "the plan" that military leadership seems so fond of deferring when things go wrong.
Honestly a more simple theory could simply be that the Indominus had Concavenator DNA, the body shape is similar, the form of the head is similar, and the Concavenator on Lockwood’s manor also had opposable thumbs for… reasons
For the Indominus claws, Therizinosaurus was officially outed as a reference but as for the opposable thumb, the jury is still out. To me it's just because opposable thumbs are related to higher intelligence in our anthropocentric mindset, without even implying human DNA.
The Spinosaurus also used its arms and tore apart a plane and snapped a T-Rex's neck with its arms; does it have human DNA, too? And considering the fact that nothing in Jurassic World is natural, it doesn't seem that far-fetched for how any of this is possible.
Tbh I love both JW and JW:FK, with all the hybrid stuff. Indominus Rex and Indoraptor are easily the best dinos in the franchise. But the JW:D with that locust bullsh*t doesn’t make any sense to me and it kinda ruind the perfect franchise’s finale. I mean they created two of the most brutal and deadliest dino villains in their first two movies and then come up with LOCUST?! I was hoping we would get more of the hybrid stuff, with new info, backstories and maybe even another powerful hybrid.
Iguanodon kinda has thumbs though. Mixed with some theropod dna to replace the thumb claw with an actual finger and it might explain the Indo thumb.
Or well, it's just the Chameleon.
6:58 I know my expanded headcannon explains more regarding the bizarre hybrids and Maisie's cloning (with Michael Crichton's: Next being used as inspiration).
I gonna love these Jurassic theories, definitely brings me yet again back into to the series
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I do wish Jurassic Park had taken more of a sci fi horror approach rather than the action movie style, I was pleasantly surprised when they created an actual monster with the I-Rex, but human-Dino hybrids would have been absolutely horrifying in a good way
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@@KlaytonFioritiYou should make a video discussing if the Indominus Rex had Atrocitraptor and Pyroraptor DNA. Or how the Indoraptor could return in a future project.
Dilophosaurus actually had thumbs so the hybrids could've gained them from those. It also explains how the Dilo in the OG Jurassic Park opened the door to Nedry's Jeep. There was even a pterosaur named Monkeydactyl due to having thumbs. And as you showed, even today, chameleons have thumbs. So I would think that DNA from a reptile w thumbs would be more likely than a primate.
Dilophosaurus didn't have thumbs, both in JP and real life.
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I wouldn't put it past Wu to put in his DNA
I still think they can use the idea of human dna being used for genetic power, it could even play a part the novel s original message of consequences with genetic power.
I admit some of that was cool, but dino human-Hyrbids always strike me as funny, goofy, and odd... When Alan Grant discussed his argument at the dinner table with Hammond and the rest, saying, how can we predict the outcome of humans and dinosaurs suddenly being thrown in the mix together?, never in my wildest fantasies dared I imagine the outcome would be half human and half dinosaur hybrids. It's just absurd, but it happens, in JW Evolution 1, the game on Steam, I remember the basic Triceratops having a human eye, which kinda looked offputting.
The Indomitus Rex and I-raptor having human intelligence is beyond obvious... Indomitus even freaking talks to raptors and outsmarted people several times. The plot of JW needed the Indomitus rex to break free. And in the real world, you can't justify dinosaurs escaping their paddocks in JW's high-tech park... JP also had trapped the animals, until Nedry. So only a weaponized dinosaur could escape and explain how all the other dinosaurs got loose in JW... It was the only dinosaur smart enough to do it...The entire plot of JW was written to explain and justify how by the end of JW3 humanity could be stupid enough to bring dinosaurs to the populated world and let them escape into the wilds...to become permanent breeding residents...No matter how shitty it all really sounds. So there is a true "Jurassic World" now...
And the hybrids had as smart as humans, knowing even how trackers and cameras work, with anti-bullet armored skin that can camouflage and hide from heat-seeking tech.
And in JW lore, the cloned girl was created before JW and at the time of JP, so human cloning and genetic altering had already happened, mixing some human gene with dinosaurs as some freaky interests to see the result would obviously happen, but in a realistic sense, which JP was all about, even as a hook, you'd almost never keep those hybrids alife or show them to the public... If people knew the park they visited illegally created dinosaur-people it would be the worlds biggest scam and JP would be rightfully put to death xD
Dominion's whitewashing of Maisie's creation was really, really annoying. Masie would have been a more interesting character if she had to just deal with the outright fact that she is the product of science project and a man's futile attempt to bring his daughter back to life. As is, it's just more "science can solve anything" theme with Dominion that is just absolutely contrary to the themes of Jurassic Park (and most of World). Crichton would have enjoyed dealing with a character having to navigate being born this way, for these reasons, but Dominion just decided it didn't want to and tossed it out.
You can thank the fans for scaring them into doing that retcon.
In a possible future trilogy, They should have people like the families of Dennis Nedry and Lewis Dodgson come forward accusing Dr. Wu of Being a Bio-terrorist and that the dinosaurs he created were not modified hybrids but rather were genetically engineered Bioweapons. As the case with the Dilophosaurus, Indominus Rex and the Indoraptor.
A theory I have ALWAYS been onboard with, I´d even go so far as to say Henry might´ve even used samples of his own dna if we go with the human dna being used insted of a chimp.
Though I believe it was used to make the creature more intelligent, and the apposable thumbs were just a sideffect to that, similiar to the camoflague ability
this is assuming that human intelligence isn't already owed (in large part already) to having apposable thumbs (rather than the opposite---that thumbs are a byproduct of intelligence as you say it)....ie: it wouldn't have been POSSIBLE to gain our level of intelligence if we lacked the apposable thumbs. Mostly due to the loss of written language. The other major pre-requisite to human intelligence is SPOKEN language, that, although doesn't DIRECTLY require apposable thumbs to develop... its refinement certainly DID require written language to be developed. Complex and adpatable language capability, and the ability to MAKE and USE tools are fundamental to the development of intelligence.
being a societal / community type species (one that benefits groups over individualism) -> ability to form complex adaptable language -> ability to learn from and teach others -> ability to recognize, fashion and use tools -> ability to delude oneself by ignoring a billion years of evolution that transformed apes into humans that had 2 sexes and genders and that we are biologically different and yet dependent for humanity's survival on the acceptance of that reality. -> death of humanity
4:50 it does say in the movie that it was given chameleon DNA which explains the thumbs and it’s color changing ability
The indoraptor smiled that's human DNA!
It just looks like a smile. But then the raptors in JP smiled too if not leered.
Great video as always keep up the good work.
I honestly thought the Doc was going to say the Indo had Raptor AND Primate DNA when the group was pressing him for answers on where the Genetic Makeup of the animal came from, not only would that answer the Raptor question on how they would communicate later on but why the Indo was so intelligent that it could literally make a plan to leave false scratch marks along the inclosure and trick them all into opening the pen.
On another note it would make his speech to the Director more compelling as well.
The speech where Woo goes off about how none of the dinosaurs are real, theyre basically genetic monsters and that the director ordered him to make something "Scary" for the park guests so he went off the books to do so.
Also seeing a failure log of test subjects up to the final product would have hit that Wow Factor for everyone waiting for that reveal, seriously how fucked up would that be to see a mutant embryo like the one from Aliens, except instead of a XenoHuman baby its a botched Chimp and Raptor with all the dna patterns Woo mentioned.
Cuttlefish and all, up until its the stable version of the Indominus
Honestly I think the first Dino to have human DNA in it is the JP3 Spino. That Dino felt way to intelligent and malevolent to be just a "regular" carnivore. I mean, just look at the fence scene in that film. It was literally waiting behind the humans and watching them menacingly rather than just mindlessly running at them.
Honestly, I wouldn't be bothered if the films did reveal Dr. Wu included a dash of human DNA into his hybrids just out of curiosity to see what effect it would have on them (which would be most likely his own DNA).
In Jurassic World, when the comment is made that the Indominus was just killing other dinosaurs & not even eating them, I was actually pretty sure that human dna was where they were going with the story
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0:10 - Quick question…was that Mark Hamill doing the narration for JP’s Halloween Horror Nights maze?
In the original pitch of jurrassic world/jurrassic park 4 they had human dino hybrids, you can see it on the fandom page they legit had sketches of 2 legged dinos
Humanoid dinos.
Jurassic park 3 almost went with dino human hybrids but the studio thought it would be too silly
Great content per usual!
Watched this, and then watched your “Evilution” video. Got me thinking 🤔.
New to your channel, just found video on recommended, wanted to say that short intro you had was amazing
Every time I hear about things like this, I wish a different director or a reboot went into the direction of being as "pure horror" as the books (never read them; have heard great things)
4:41 Reptilian claws and thumbs for a Dinosaurs hybrid makes the most logical sense, in my honest opinion.
Well also there’s a scene in Jurassic World where they find a bunch of dinosaurs that Indominous had killed but not eaten. Which lead to the conclusion that it was killing for sport, as far as I know the only creature to have ever killed for sport were humans
I truely think theirs a connection between Massie and the Indoraptor...
Like...they were connected somehow...
This would have been a really cool way of representing how each entry in the "World" movies made the dinosaurs further and further from what dinosaurs are both visually and genetically. I liked Dominion and the Jurassic World movies' overarching theme of "coexisting with dinosaurs," but the first movie really does make it feel like combat dinosaurs and other genetic hybrids were going to show up. We still saw those later with the Endoraptor and genetically trained Raptors but it didn't feel like the next big step up from the Indominous Rex.
Cloning was interesting but didn't go too far in Dominion other than giving closure and a sense of purpose to Maisie. It seemed like Dominion had a lot to juggle with dinosaurs across the country (and now whole world), a new threatening company, Dr. Wu and his genetic creations, and bringing back the old characters, so at least one had to sit on the back burner. Definitely feels like they didn't trust Dominion to be able to stand on it's own after Fallen Kingdom given the returning actors and backpedaling on Wu's obsession with genetic hybrids.
Would love to see the Jurassic Park franchise continue forward, but beyond the Netflix show and more theme park rides I don't see anything really happening with the name.
I recmond reading the fanfic callled "Its not the raptor dna" its basically an AU where things go differenty and the Indominus does human DNA. Also its a redemption arc.
I never would have thought of the arms of a chameleon when I first saw that I thought it was the DNA was from at dinosaur with long claws. What was at called again? 😮
Love your videos Jurassic is my life
Dog dna in the raptors is a good reason to why they are so friendly with people
I'm glad you finally changed your intro to reflect your content, but I'm a little bummed you never got to discuss any of the other stuff the old intro teased, like Power Rangers and all that.
Because I first found your page when the new series of JP/JW movies were first announced, it always felt like the algorithm dictated your content and you had to keep putting out JP videos to get views, and I was really looking forward to eventually getting your views and opinions on other pop culture touchstones.
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I always supposed that all the hybrids had some human DNA on them. Those spines in the lab tanks are clearely humanoid. I would have liked some of that as long as they didn't went as far as Alien Resurrection nor those abominations drawn on the infamous concept art that are completely bonkers.
Let us not forget that the I-Rex is said to have chameleon DNA, too. This is how it camouflages itself. And like you said at the end of the video with the chameleon grabbing at the branch, we can say that it likely attributes it's "thumb" to their paws.