Disney World's Historic Crowd Drop Is HERE: August on Track for LOWEST Attendance, September WORSE!
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Disney World's Historic Crowd Drop Is HERE: August on Track for LOWEST Attendance, September WORSE!
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I’ve resigned myself to the fact that Disney is dying and it can’t be saved. Honestly Id rather see it dead than become what it’s turning into
It's not that I enjoy Disney failing, but I am so tired of the BS of Igor and Kennedy destroying a company brand and other brands they have acquired that I grew up on. I truly want Disney to succeed, but the woke BS has to go or it just needs to go down in flames - I too would rather, "...see it dead than to become what it is turning into".
It's not Disney that is failing, it is Iger and Woke that are Killing Disney. Have others do a takeover, dump Iger and all woke management and employees and Disney can be saved.
Woke = Hate.
Progressive = decline and decay
Disney = Dis-me
At this point Disney is an ideological junkie taking hit after hit of the woke pipe and fans keep trying to tell them to stop or they’ll die but they just don’t care. Want to know what’s telling? My mom watches a kid, he’s a good kid, and she wants me to be a male role model for him (I’m not the best but I’ve been responsible for my dads care while my sister furthers her career) she plans to take this kid to universal. That’s how far the company has fallen.
I agree. It's like understanding that your favorite teddy bear is just too shredded to even patch up.
Here’s the thing Disney forgets most young families don’t have the money to go for holiday. It’s grandma and grandpa who take them to Disney. I am a grandma and no way are we paying for kids/ grandchildren to go to Disney we don’t have money to waste. We are taking them to the beach this year.
So true. I want to share Disney with my Grandkids, but not the crap they have been pushing. Its not want I want my Grandkids to be exposed to. Disney was and is supposed to be an entertainment venue for Family. Truly it beaks my heart to see Disney in the state it is. We are going to Universal in 2025 already planning it. Will NOT be going to Disney.
@@friedrichhack1407I agree! It breaks my heart too! They have killed the MAGIC!!!!!
As someone with money to waste there's no way I'm going to Disney. I'm not interested in the children focused creep shows, and they made it clear the general is no longer wanted only the modern one.
What??? Bidenomics is helping EVERYONE!
I think a huge part of it besides the money issue especially since we here in SoCal can get huge discounts on tickets, is the negative impact their woke ideology has had. We had a condo 3 miles from the park in SoCal that we sold last year. We had it for the last 10 years .
Our huge family and network of friends would often stay there if it wasn’t taken up by air B and B. So as an investment we saw the trend . Once Disney started with their woke nonsense, we just all decided we weren’t going to support a company that wants to push an agenda down Americans throats. I can see Disney going bankrupt. Go woke….Go broke.
What? People don't want to pay $139 to stand in long lines for broken down rides in 95 degree humid heat. I just don't understand.
I'll be at epic universe
Never been to Disney, but I used to go to King's Dominion every year. My favorite thing to do there was wait till dusk, when people started leaving. Either by myself, or with a good friend of mine, go to "The Grizzly". It's an older wooden coaster, and not as popular as Volcano or whatever new thing they pumped out every couple years. The lines were so short at that time of day, sometimes I would get 10+ rides in a row without ever getting off.
I would just look at the attendants, and wave toward the exit, like, do I need to go get in line again? And they would just smile and gesture to stay where I was. I did that every year for a few years, back when my father used to get access to reduced price tickets that included a fried chicken dinner at a pavilion they set up. It was one of his perks for being a retired member of the Carpenter's Union.
That is not quite right. I have a wife and three kids, so I have to spend $695 to stand in long lines for broken-down rides in 95-degree humid heat, why listening to complaining kids and a whinny wife. Sounds like fun. Then add parking and food and its a solid $1K for a shitty experience.
@@eeroala5132 go to universal life will be so much better and cheaper overall not perfect, but vacation with kids will always be an obstacle course . You and your family will have a much better time
@@eeroala5132 I'm sorry you had to suffer like that. Unfortunately I'm just a Disneyland customer, not a worker. But I don't really like going to Disneyland in the summer because it's too hot even in Utah where I live that I'd rather work at grounds mowing lawns, weeding gardens.
Removing a water feature like will raise the ambient temperature of the park, making people more miserable.
Bingo!!!!
Yup! Water has a cooling effect on its surroundings. It is why people flock to beaches. Not only are they taking away the water, they are going to pave over more of the land. Pavement gets even hotter than soft-scapes like dirt and grass.
Then they can sell more 5$ water bottles.
Yes and the river boat/paddle boat takes a lot of people out of lines and helps park flow. It also gives people a chance to breathe.
Bob Iger and his gang of fail upwards idiots love to make People miserable.
When people say you're being "negative," it means you're spitting truth. The reality is, society doesn't like the truth.
ABSOLUTELY 💯
Say it louder for the people in the back, brother!
i think people with enough money can pay for bots/ troll farms to try to go after anyone who comes after them. that's just my conspiracy theory though. same thing with mr beast
When you only put negative stuff only, yes its a reason for it.
Disney is simply unburdening by what has been.
Well said, Kamala 😂
@@scottbrower9052 “Universal is a theme park in America. It exists next to another theme park called Disney. Disney is a bigger theme park. Disney is a powerful theme park. Disney decided to invade a smaller theme park called Universal so, basically, that’s wrong,”
@@NRCARCH 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@NRCARCH LOL, nice.
Lol
Iger has to go
More then just iger
Nah he started the Disney dumpster fire.He should just finish it off ,and he and others are doing just that
Dimaro needs to go with him
You all don't think that Kamala's BFF will be better? She will probably be worse.
So much more than just him we need Elon in there with a kitchen sink doing a massive reset
I'm a current Disneyland Magic Key payer and this company sucks. They actively dislike their loyal stockholders and customers. Iger needs to go. Sharita Carter needs to go. Kathleen Kennedy needs to go. Gut it from top management. I spent >5K there this year, and F this place. Epic Universe is ACTUAL. It's happening.
@@jonnym4670 Yes, Steve Lehto and Yellowflash2 did videos about this, Mr. Piccolo's wife had a peanut allergy, and died due to the food she was served. Due to a FREE TRIAL in 2019, they say he agreed to terms of contract saying he cannot sue. If that doesn't work, they say buying a ticket to the park is ALSO an agreement to terms. The original story was in the BBC, guess the guy and his wife are from the UK.
And universals fastpass cost is transparent and upfront for EVERY ride in their parks!!!!
Where are they incorporated? Time to get things filed so all c-suite and board compensation packages that the board rubber stamped need to be clawed back.
In the early 70’s, George Lucas was shopping his little space opera around the studios. Before Alan Ladd at 20th Century Fox wisely bought Star Wars, Disney also turned Mr. Lucas down. Decades later, Disney, hoping Star Wars would bring them out of their slump, paid George a billion dollars for his creation. Rather than Star Wars pulling Disney UP, Disney has dragged everyone associated with them and their WOKE existence DOWN.
When Epic Universe opens, it does NOT matter if it takes one month, six months or a year to start raking in the guests at top speed. When the very first guest steps inside, time will not matter. It's all uphill from here and Universal will have a surefire hedge against Disney. I'm praying there are no big hiccups before Opening Day. Universal can NOT eff this up. Their future could depend on it. This is the day. This is what Universal spent 20+ years doing: lurking in the background, silently chipping at Disney's foundation with a dull chisel. But the foundation IS crumbling and Disney will fall. Universal finally has upgraded to a carbide chisel and $120 Stiletto brand hammer. The (foolish?) stockholders and blinder than bat pixie dusters can shout and cry all they like. It won't change Bob Eager's eagerness to wreck everything. It's already starting and no amount of time and money will fix it. Mark my words
Disney is dead. I won't be surprised at all if the stock tumbles another $10 a share. I wouldn't bet even $25 a share on their stock.
Won’t be true anymore.
FRONTIERLAND
Here we experience the story
of our country's past... the colorful drama of Frontier America in the exciting days of the covered wagon and the stage coach ... the advent of the railroad ... and the romantic riverboat.
Frontierland is a tribute to the faith, courage and ingenuity of the pioneers who blazed the trails across America.
Walt Disney
July 17, 1955
How dare Disney ruin this land by putting in a rollercoaster, bring back the mules to ride!!!! Said no one in the past 40 years
EXACTLY why this Marxist company wants it gone. Erase the past.
@@Mike__Bthey don’t like pioneers anymore imo they call them colonizers now…enjoy the cultural war!
@@Mike__B they have a roller coaster that fits frontier land it’s called big thunder mountain railroad
@@caryrae73 That's my point, in order for Big Thunder to happen they had to get rid of the Rainbow Cavern mine train. Pack Mules that you could ride left a few years before that. And all of this happened after Walt's death, at Disneyland obviously.
It's so sad to see something we once loved crumble before our eyes. Disney has been important to my family. It is to a lot of families. My Dad grew up very poor in the South. He didn't even have indoor plumbing. He would go to his Aunt's house because she had a TV, and he'd watch Wonderful World of Color. My Dad vowed that someday, he'd have enough money to take his kids to Disneyland. Long story short, he worked his way through college, got a good job and we went to Disney World for the first time in 1987, when I was 6. Then we went pretty much every other year. Finally, when graduated high school, my Dad took me to Disneyland. We went on all the rides he saw on TV as a kid. It was magical and one of my all-time fave memories with my Dad. It breaks my heart that Disney has totally lost its way. I was in the College Program, and I feel like every decision maker and higher up there needs to retake the Traditions class. Anyone who has worked there before Chapek and Iger knows what I am sayin'. Disney is now devoid of tradition and what's actually important.
They want to get rid of Tom Sawyer's island because it is a time of history they want to cancel.
Bingo!
Read Jusadude 7162. It’s people like that who are destroying this country and our heritage.
They clearly despise Americana. Consider this: They don't even play the instrumental version of Zippedy-Doo-Da anywhere on any Disney property. You can bookend everything Disney with two songs, When you Wish Upon a Star and ZDD.
I cannot believe how Disney management (if they are actually managing the parks) thinks that "canceling" history is a feasible option for guests. WW2 and Nazism was an awful time for the world and humanity but it still happened. The era of slavery was ugly but it still happened. Many eras in history were reprehensible but they still happened. You can't just put your fingers in your ears, like 5 year-olds getting told off, and say "La, la, la, la, la" and pretend you can't hear it.
Because nobody liked it or went. No have you.
We love Tom Sawyer Island. The kids thought it was great fun to look for the hidden paint brushes and when you turned it in to a cast member, they'd give you a wildcard fastpass. I remember being terrified of Injun Joe's cave as something brushed against me in the dark, and I screamed so loudly. Never again. The kids were there too, and they laughed so hard because it was part of the cave and in the dark, I freaked out. Frontierland was always my favorite area and I rode the riverboat every single visit. They are destroying this park. That's why your parks are empty. You're ruining everything. We won't be supporting this crap any longer. No more of my dollars for you, Disney. Go fund yourself.
“It sounds good on paper” as an Expansion to Magic Kingdom or Epcot, Not to rip out and destroy something Walt Disney designed or approved himself.
Anything Walt had a hand in personally or at least approving should never be taken away.
The thing is Walt never designed any iteration of Epcot that has existed, he wanted an actual working city not a disjointed theme park. And as far as Magic Kingdom, while yeah Walt designed the Rivers, he did so for Disneyland, not the clone his brother designed was needed in the East.
They current leadership hates walt tho....
Look at their shit ideas for the hotels and using generic as the model to follow. Look at the new Poly eyesore. That's what they're doing to the parks.
@@hiboi6936 Our friend’s brother is gay and happily married. Both him and his husband said there is no one vindictive or vengeful than a gay man.
They said they think there’s a lot of gay people working at the Executive level at Disney and this is them getting back at the Nuclear Families out there. They are trying to make Disney World how they perceived it should of been done and have zero interest in carrying on Walt’s legacy or dreams for his Company.
@@williamoleary9330That really makes complete sense. I think you are right.
As much as this bunch thinks they can make things the way they want them to be they are seeing (with Disney) & will see with other things too the majority of people do not see or want the world that way. It’s not like they are being kept from participating in just about everything and are treated just like others but that’s not good enough. They want it their way & only their way & if you disagree they want you gone, if your business was for all they want that gone too. Their way or no way. I know this is not all gay’s but this is the group at Disney and they are not alone.
Frontierland doesn’t fit the current Disney culture. It’s too “colonialist”. It’s too America-centric. It’s too Walt.
The Magic Kingdom is for a “global” audience. People from Brazil don’t care about Tom Sawyer or Rivers of America, right?! 🤦♂️ They want Cars and Tiana, not Fort Langhorn and Pecos Bill 🤦♂️ Believe me, Liberty Square and specifically Hall of Presidents is next. They certainly don’t fit the culture today. I bet the level of disgust WDI had making the Trump AA was palpable. Can you imagine the glee on their faces when they finally strip his AA for parts?!
I’m happy I was able to experience Walt’s vision of the WDW Resort before Iger & Co pave over it for a new generation. I wish I didn’t care so much as it’s just a theme park but it’s part of my youth. I hate to see it destroyed.
You sound like a globalist and you are contemptuous of American heritage and history. You even had to take a stab at Trump. God help you.
There are millions of us who feel that way. And we’re the ones who kept them afloat after 9/11. They wouldn’t exist if we didn’t go and convince others it was the best place to vacation for years and years. Now they throw it in our faces. They know not what they do. It will cost them dearly. But, alas, it will cost us our childhood memories.
Agreed, bulldozing the Rivers of America, and Tom Sawyers Island is a STUPID idea. My first visit to the Magic Kingdom was in 1972. If they do this STUPID removal, I'm done.
They're paving over Disney World to build Iger World. We used to go every spring break with our girls and we have the best family memories. This breaks my heart and we're unlikely to renew our annual passes.
Please don’t. The only chance we have for them to stop destroying the place is if people stop going at an even higher rate. We have stopped and spent a minimum of 10k a year there every year. If everyone who feels this way stops giving them money they would have to listen to us.
Those in management positions hate Walt and hate those who try and protect walt's legacy.
I grew up in the Northeast, and growing up, we would go to Six Flags, Dorney Park, and Hershey Park. My parents saved up, and we went to Disney. What a world of difference! Disney was in a class of it own.
Now, as an adult, I went frequently to Disney. Now, with these new changes, they are getting to Six flags level of a park. What I mean by that is six flags amusement themes are all over the place, with no rhyme or reason to it. Disney is headed in that direction now.
Absolutely “was”, not anymore though
OH WOW! I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A LONG TIME! TOTALLY AGREE! SO SAD THEY HAVE KILLED THE MAGIC!!!!!!!!!
I said that today to my wife. The crowd reminded me of six flags crowds. Sloppy people, bunch of young teens with no kids just hanging out, Loud obnoxious people. I remember years ago when I first started going to Disney, the crowds were well put together families making memories with loved ones. Now there’s Too many Disney adults dressed in Mickey ears loud rainbow colored clothes tattooed characters all over their bodies, crying Cause they saw a castle or a mouse. My god how times have changed but I believe this isn’t a good look for Disney as it turns off family’s on what Walt truly intended for Disney world to be. A place where parents and children with family American values can make happy memories and continue those traditions into future generation.
Iger is never, ever going to let go of his grip on Disney - no matter how many $Billions they lose.
I have so many childhood memories of Tom Sawyers Island, running around it with my older brother while my parents rested at the restaurant. I'm the only one left to keep their memories, and those fun family times alive.
It breaks my heart to hear it's going to be paved over.
My daughter's favorite thing to do in the whole part was riding on the Liberty Belle. Every time we went while she grew up, we scheduled a "down day" for my wife to rest, and lounge around the hotel, while I took my daughter to MK and we would ride the Liberty Belle at least 5 times. After every time we'd ride anything else she wanted to ride the LB again.
Do they have to get rid of the Belle? Can't they at least keep it there and maybe turn it into a restaurant? At least it would still be there. If not, put it somewhere else, so people can still ride it. Doesn't matter where, my daughter would find it and want to ride it over and over.
Or even so, couldn't you moat the cars ride and make it so the liberty belle circles the ride somehow?
They want to create a New Orleans area, why not on that Island? There would be room for a couple of Princess and the Frog themed attractions, and the Liberty Belle riverboat would be perfect. Instead, they are going to remove trees and water, and build an attraction based on an IP that made less money on each subsequent installment. The plan is to shut down the railroad to build this new Cars area until the 2030s. I'm going to guess once the railroad suspends operations, the Disney Bean Counters will decide it's not cost effective to run the steam powered trains anymore.
@@ottobaron6392 that's what I've always loved about Disney World..THEY ALREADY HAVE A NEW ORLEANS MARDI GRAS AREA !!!! WTF .... You have beautiful Mardi Gras area, wrought iron decor, comforting southern jazz music, beignets, you can actually take a boat to the New Orleans resort from the marketplace.... Why not just try to pull people into the resort if you want in New Orleans Mardi gras experience.... I don't understand why they're destroying everything and replacing it with nothing!! Nothing to look forward to in the new Disney world it's all redundant like we need a third Incredibles, we don't need a third moana, we don't need a third Frozen!!! GIVE IT UP DISNEY....
@@sandraparolie7179 then it makes no sense to me why they have talked about replacing Frontierland with an East Coast New Orleans Square., if they already have one.
This was our first year going to Universal in Orlando instead of Disney World for our summer vacation. The kids liked universal way more and we can't wait for epic universe! Get woke, go broke. We're done giving money to companies who hate us and our family values. Goodbye groomers.
I had visited Disney World most years from 1977 when I was 12 until 2016. We wanted to take our granddaughters to DW in 2021. But when they had openly bragged about the sexualization of its children's themes and inserting politics into the parks, we totally turned away from Disney in every fashion. When our 4 kids were young (their 28-33 now), from 2001-2013 we interchanged Disney season passes and Universal/SeaWorld passes every other year. Even though we live in NC, we loved going and had a flexible enough schedule to go several times a year. We LOVED it! Even though we loved both park resorts at the time, we always felt Universal was a better overall value, ride for ride and dollar for dollar. It's a MUCH easier theme park resort to get around, you can walk everywhere. That is exponentially more so now with Disney's horrible actions. When Epic Universe opens next year (we all will be there Oct. 2025), it will probably be Disney's death nail. We also love/loved attending our local park (Carowinds in Charlotte) with our annual passes there. Our children will not take their families to Disney. Even though we are Conservative, we really don't care what Disney's political affiliation is; just keep it out of the parks. We go to get away from all of the garbage of the World (like politics) and for ALL people to enjoy the classic attractions that have been loved for generations, not be relentlessly lectured to 24/7. Anyway, sorry for rambling, lol. It's just breaks my heart and angers me that Disney's execs are willing to forever destroy one of the most beloved and uniting institutions in history and tell all of us who have supported them for generations to screw off. I totally agree with your premise. God bless.
I Love Universal!!!! I just went to Universal for the first time and it was an AMAZING experience
Make up your mind, is it the kids who liked Universal way better? Or is it the memes you love to say about being woke that are making you move? Your family values? Or the fact you think they're groomers?
My sources tell me that six out of seven dwarves aren't Happy, and one is Grumpy with the way Disney's been heading.
Next trip try Cedar Point and Kings Island, you'll never go back to Disney
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to" is not just a line from a crappy movie. It is the motto of Disney under Bob Iger which their upper management lives by.
It is hilarious to watch 😂😂
Old is gold
Yeah It seems to be their motto for star wars. BUT can be easily applied to Disney as well.
I agree
Our family friendly Disney is in our past: "let the past die, KILL IT if you have too"
It’s heartbreaking to watch. It’s like watching my childhood die at the hands of cultural vandals
I’m an old man who took my kids when I could. Couldn’t wait to take grandkids. Now I am a grandfather and I won’t step foot in WDW until Iger gets replaced with someone who rights the ship.
I too want to share Disney with my Grandkids, but not the crap they have been pushing. Its not want I want my Grandkids to be exposed to. Disney was and is supposed to be an entertainment venue for Family. Truly it beaks my heart to see Disney in the state it is.
You could take them to Epic Universal when it opens next year. Just a suggestion. When all else fails, there's always the competition...
The reason that attendance is so low is that they are slowly destroying the soul of the parks. The nostalgia is what keeps bringing people back. That is why the original rides are still popular. Everyone wants to share their happy memories with their kids. Until they learn to lean into that, all of the upgrades are going to be subpar and meaningless.
Man if Lightning Lame didn't completely turn me off Disney parks, I'd be jazzed about these crowd levels being as low as advertised.
When Disney is exposed because of the Gina Carano lawsuit and when Epic Universe opens Disney could go bankrupt
Remember who is funding the Gina Carano lawsuit lawyers. Elon Musk. There was also a few huge Disney stock holders and board members who attempted to oust Iger and then sold out of the company when they couldn’t remove him. If stock drops low enough Musk and those former board members could preform a hostile takeover and remove Iger and course correct Disney back. I’m rooting for Musk.
@str-lrd3863 yep. I totally agree
Tom Sawyer's Island is a great place to go to when you or your child lives with autism. It helps with the sensory overload. Going there for a little while can literally mean that a family can continue enjoy the park for the day, versus going to the hotel or home. Though this doesn't matter to Disney. Just look at how they have tossed the disabled community overboard in recent months.
Exactly. I’m autistic myself and I value these areas a lot. It’s sad that it’s going away.
No offense, but I don't think Disney or any corporation should be making decisions for a small percentage of their customer base. Most people want rides and attractions. Tom Sawyer is empty most of the time and is eating valuable space. There are many different areas at Disneyland and magic Kingdom that are quiet.
@@remyd8767 your argument for valuable space does hold up since DW has TONS of undeveloped space.
@@That_Service_Dog_Show I agree with that. But that whole area is only good for photos. Would I prefer they expand magic Kingdom outward? Sure. But I am not in the meeting rooms. I dont have all the details of what went into the planning ( is water doing damage to the surrounding area? Is it costly to maintain all that water? ). I do know anecdotally not mant people go to that island and most just do the steamboat just because other rides have long lines.
Disney has become a theme bar for adults! Disney is catering to that crowd. No longer a kid friendly place. No longer family friendly. Your park photos look like any collage bar. Not Disneyland.
Disneyland maybe. It's a locals park. Disney World is very much full of strollers
Who wants to put up with kids?
Walt Disney didn't create the parks solely for kids, he created them for everyone and every race. If he designed these parks solely for kids it would've died a long time ago
So you not only completely missed the point but brought race into it for no reason. Real smart guy we got here.
@@Nick-ue7iw really didn't want to waste my time. A machine is programmed to behave this way. Not a glitch. The programming was shown with his pathologic obsession with the face sucker. Let's discuss Data's humanity? For me it's lame! But your the genius. So enjoy the emotional feminization of machines ? Obviously upset you.
Everything from Walt’s Time and Original creations should be UNTOUCHABLE. In fact there should be “Walt Disney Enthusiasts” hired to care, clean, and preserve these items/areas 💯✨
im honestly so disgusted that the boat and river and frontier land is being gutted, im now convinced that disney hates its customer base and wants to delete disney history.
Agreed!!! It's disgusting what they are doing!!!
I was on the fence about going in September, now I have decided I will not go again until Igor and the rest are gone. My family has been going to WDW since 1974 and are well aware how much it has declined. 😢
Elon musk may be the only person on the planet that has any chance of bringing Disney back to some resemblance of what Walt intended it to be
People wanted to go to DisneyWorld, not Bob Iger Corporation World.
Yes,...they could leave the Rivers of America and build in other places instead. But if they did that...how else could they get rid of the Rivers of America???
Exactly. They want to delete anything about our past and history. It is much worse than just tearing down a ride. It is tearing apart our country.
I want to personally thank you for your honesty and objectivity about the situation at Disney. I attended Disney World most years between 1977-2016. Even though we live in NC, we had annual passes 2001-2013, so I was no casual fans. But their injecting politics into everything they touch (especially the sexualization of children) was more than we could stomach. I will never be so blindly brand loyal that I will sell my moral compass to still support them. We have always loved Universal and SeaWorld and now they're the parks we exclusively attend now when we visit Orlando (in addition to our home park, Carowinds). Our whole family will be at Epic Universe/US/IOA in October 2025 and can't wait. God bless and hang in there, you guys are doing a great service. Disney's feet DOES need to be held to the fire. They have no one to blame but themsevles.
like, like, like ... wish I could hit the like button on your comment many times. It's not that I enjoy Disney failing, but I am so tired of the BS of Igor and Kennedy destroying a company brand and other brands they have acquired that I grew up on. It's sad they are destroying everything I could enjoy with my Granddaughter (6 now) was looking to take her every 2 years over the next 10 years as she grows up. I am truly heart broken. We will still vacation in Florida but Disney will not be in the plan.
Being a Disneyland goer the thing that makes Disney is immersion. When you’re in the parks you feel like you’re actually in the frontier or New Orleans and the small spots, like Tom sawyers island or Rivers of America, make it feel more real. These spaces make the difference between Disney and a six flags park with rides wherever instead of meticulous planning and theming.
I'm not sure when Pro will finally realize that this is all deliberate.
Disney is dead.
Iger won’t stop until ever bit of Walt is gone from his company
They destroyed Splash Mountain and will destroy Frontierland!! I won’t ever go back unless new leadership comes down the road! I would visit the Tokyo one though!!
I will go to Tokyo some day to feel the MAGIC!!!
Disney does not seem to realize they can charge triple what they should be able to charge because of nostalgia and ambiance. I don't need to travel 1500 miles to walk around a concrete roller coaster park. There are half a dozen Six Flags type parks much closer and way cheaper.
To paraphrase Frank Herbert...The Sleeping Customer has awakened!!! Feel the power of boycott!!! #dangitbob
The tears must flow, a lesson they must learn.
Telling the truth is not being “negative”.
Keep telling it like it is. Thank you
I like to call that toxic positivity.
I am so sick of all the IP in the parks. Attractions used to have creativity. “One little spark” of creativity if you will. Now the parks are just an add for Disney+, which I can get a lot cheaper at home. With each IP “update” they are making themselves more and more obsolete
Disney destroyed themselves, and Epic Universe will be the new king. Long live Epic Universe!
If everything Disney was doing wasn't negative to their performance then you wouldn't have to be "too negative" about Disney.
These people are the most biased group of people I have ever seen, even if something was the best thing ever they would’ve hated on it. If epic universe was made by Disney, I can 100% guarantee you they would think it’s the most trash thing of all time.
@@Mochichu-w6b What is your explanation driving the poor performance?
Mochichu, no, you're arguing how facts are presented. Crowds are down, you can see it in wait times (which are inflated) and watch the influencers walk around. The movies are failing, two movies haven't changed the bottom line. They are laying off people at a rate that is hurting the experience. You pay a premium for a hotel yet you only get a cleaning service every fourth day? They are telling the truth, step out from under the pixie dust and breathe the free air.
@@Mochichu-w6bthen tell us what’s the main reason behind the poor quality of the conditions the parks are in? You can’t bc clearly more of that bob iger yes man caring more about getting your special access then being honest and questioning the leadership.
@@DrewHall-un8sn Mochichu is just being fake outrage over nothing bc they don’t share the same views as mochichu does.
RIP Rivers of America in Tragic Kingdom.
Maybe the strategy to pressure guests to visit Disney world before they ruin their park even further is not the wisest strategy.
We went to Disney world this year with the mindset it was to be our last. We will still go to Florida for vacation, but focus only on the other attractions. Universal will be the big thing going forward. It's sad they are destroying everything I could enjoy with my Granddaughter (6 now) was looking to take her every 2 years over the next 10 years as she grows up. I am truly heart broken.
Disney’s park planning reminds me of the scene in Planes, Trains and Automobiles… “You’re going the wrong way!!! You’re going to kill someone!!!”
Disney's woke agenda is more reminiscent of another scene in that same movie: "Where's your hand? Between two pillows. That's not pillows!"
As they patronizingly wave a half hearted thank you to those trying to warn them 😆 Perfect comparison!
Every new Disney land: One crappy ride based on an already existing ride type, 4 overpriced restaurants, 6 overpriced gift shops, a few high schoolers walking around in costume a few hours a day. It shouldn't take 5 years to build.
Just rebooked Dollywood for the second time this year, felt like Disney of old when we went last.
I just came from WDW with a group of Spanish. The parks are busy but Magic Kingdom is falling apart everything breaks constantly and the price is to high for what it is. Some cast members are very rude. The shows are very unorganized.
We go to Tom Sawyer Island to relax and
enjoy the sounds.
My children, us and the Families we vacation with at Disney adore and love Muppet Vision.
We visit every single time we’re in Hollywood Studios!!
I have made it a point to grab a pastry and take a trip on the River of America every time I go.
We went to the parks his past January and my wife went to see Muppets for the first time. She, and our kids, laughed the whole time. After it was over she says "I can't believe I never saw this before. It was such a fun show!" People shouldn't discount an attraction just because it's not the newest flashy thing out there. These legacy attractions add to the overall experience even if some choose not to try them.
I told everyone about this during the pandemic. The park reservations had NOTHING to do with keeping the number of people down in the parks. That was a lie. They are using that data to assign workers. When the parks crowds are low like now they can assign less people and that is why the service is so bad.
I have a big dizzy fan. My wife and I grew up going to Disney we honeymoon at Disney World and we go back on our anniversaries. We brought our kids there and we are going to go back for our 35th wedding anniversary and we decided we can’t support it anymore, we have dishes and pots and plates and we love Disney. but the people that run Disney and the way it is now they act like they hate everything. Disney stood for and don’t care about the people that go spend a lot of money there.
EVERYTHING woke turns to crap!
This is such a weird conversation. Just came back from both parks in Disneyland and it was packed.
There’s this idea in Japanese art called “Ma”. To boil it down it pretty much means negative space is as important as positive space. Negative space being where nothing is happening and positive space being where something is happening. A good example often cited is the train scene in Spirited Away. Rivers of America is “Ma” for Magic Kingdom. Ya it’s not the most exciting area of the park but that’s a good thing. The park needs a place where people can take a breath. My absolute favorite area in the park is the gazebo on the island with the rocking chairs. One of the best places to relax for a minute amidst the madness. This will be a huge loss for Magic Kingdom.
It would be better if Disney put this new expansion on the edges of the river, kind of like world showcase. The water would make the area way more cohesive and less claustrophobic and add significant amount of area to the park helping absorb crowds.
It's not that I enjoy Disney failing, but I am so tired of the BS of Igor and Kennedy destroying a company brand and other brands they have acquired that I grew up on. I Subscribed and liked many of your videos just to be sure the message gets out there (fight the UA-cam algorithm). My hope is the company wakes up and gets back to... well back to 1937. I truly want Disney to succeed, but the woke BS has to go or it just needs to go down in flames. I want to share Disney with my Grandkids, but not the crap they have been pushing. Its not want I want my Grandkids to be exposed to. Disney was and is supposed to be an entertainment venue for Family. Truly it beaks my heart to see Disney in the state it is.
The Cast Members can’t handle the crowd because they have cut all part-time workers & cutting CM’s to the bare minimum & not staffing attractions thus closing the attraction. However they pulled in almost a million in Halloween merchandise sales in 1 day & in 1 location. Where’s the $ going??
Doing Disney in Orlando right now. My main complaint is the costs - especially food and lack of healthy economy dining. I have NO idea how people can afford this vacation spot.
Agree the food at MK is costly and disgusting. I want them to step up the food at MK specifically. AK has some kind of healthy tasty options and so do es Epcot and Hollywood Studios but MK food I have to take my own food.
Awwwww I'm so sad. Where are all the people shilling for this company saying the parks make them so much?
As Disney stock continues to crater the likelihood of a hostile takeover becomes more and more likely. Hopefully a talented CEO and board members can right the ship before it becomes the next Titanic!
Elon?
not surprised....I have steered clear of Disney stock as I am not convinced that their management has yet to get the clear picture of running a company. Raising prices to unaffordable levels along with your unappealing food to support your other money losing adventures is going to haunt them. Walt would be rolling over if he saw this
Went to disneyworld this July for our family vacation. We were all disappointed in the experience compared to the last time we were at disneyworld is 2017.
Roger Penske could fix Disney. When you walk into the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, you see upgrades but they don’t obliterate the past. It’s nostalgic but not out of date. It’s contemporary but honors its past. It’s absolutely spotless and the service is great as is the show.
Of anyone, he could fix Disney.
His resume speaks for itself. He hired the great Rick Mears to race the Indy 500 and he won for the FOURTH time. Even though equipment quality issues cost him the 1994 race, he cannot be dismissed. Penske didn't build a racing empire by lazing around in the back. In 1994, his drivers (Al Unser Jr. Paul Tracy, Emerson Fittipaldi) won 12 of the 16 races on the Indy Car schedule along with the Indy 500.
I’m the old man who paid for the Disney trip. And yes, I would walk by the water and stop and enjoy the peaceful ambiance of that water. It was beautiful and relaxing. Iger is going to ruin Magic Kingdom with this idiotic project. Well over 50% of people are against what he is doing. Haven’t been since 2017 and no plans to return.
The parks got the Star Wars treatment. They use member berries to draw fans in, while also destroying those member berries lol
Love you guys!! Keep telling the truth! For years, people have been giving Disney the benefit of the doubt saying it’ll turn around. They are only going in One Direction now and it’s to hell.! I’ve been going to Disney for 50 years now, my children that are now adults grew up going to Disney. I was looking forward to taking my grandchildren, but now I’m not sure if that will happen.
I'm a 54 year old with travel ahead of me. Nostalgia of WDW from childhood. I would love to return, but I won't. In a nutshell, it seems like Disney is catering to vloggers and media, instead of a family fan base. Foreigners used to flock to WDW Florida. We will have to travel to Disneyland or abroad to get the original magic. I suggest they reconsider bringing back a Walt Disney dream theme. Bring back the original magic. Well if Walt doesn't matter, it's gonna die as a business.
Only thing WDW can't control is the awful heat. But yeah, it's ridiculous from a business standpoint.
I would not even go to dinner at this time because of the heat, I would rather wait for the fall/winter when it is less hot.
And removing the River will make the heat worse imo
Iger is moving Disney away from the theme park business by destroying it.
It was so hot at DHS last Saturday, I couldn't stand it. It's like they turned off the AC.
Well, id say there are many factors. Rough economy, High ticket prices, Bad movies, Company bad mouthing traditional fans, Higher competition among other attractions outside of Disney.
I’ve been reading Mouse Tales by David Koenig( very outdated but worth a read) and it just saddens me even further reading all the accounts of all the things Walt did to ensure the quality of the park( making sure the everyone received the same “show” no matter how busy or slow the park was, walking the park himself daily looking for any little problem or issue that needed fixed, realizing when changes to the park were negative and spending the money to reverse the change). It’s so sad how little the company cares about the experience these days.
Roy Disney jr. was the last true Disney alive to keep Walt and Roy’s dream alive. I believe he fought till the end to keep it as we remember and loved. Now I believe most of the Disney family members don’t care or became too woke and probably have giving too much power to greddy ceo’s that they will watch Disney world dying a slow death.
Short term, Tom Sawyer Island, Liberty Bell, and Rivers of America. We've already lost Splash mountain, original Pirates, the Shooting Gallery, original Country Bears, original Peter Pan, and original Jungle Cruise. The "story matters group" is busy destroying Walt's dream one ride moment at a time.
The big paddle boat will be gone and no boat whistle and bell. How can you remove The boat ? It’s gonna change the atmosphere of Liberty Square and ruin it for parents and grandparents i.e. people with money. As for me and my family we stopped supporting Disney as soon as we discovered their wokeness
Also completely forgot when I suggested villains land 15 years ago I was told that Disney caters towards families and that families spend more per square foot than what a villain's land would Target
Pro, when are you going to cover the legal story about Disney hiding behind D+ terms of service in a wrongful death suit?
They also destroyed Snow White
I'm absolutely loving Marvin as a commentator! He's so much fun to listen to.
I’ve seen people I know posting videos online of them going into the park happily. On a Saturday and Sunday and there is nobody there around them or behind them.
That does sound like a happy day for me. That said I've seen streams posted of those going into Disneyland, and it most definitely is crowded still.
Disney’s concept art is so vague and abstract as to be useless at depicting what will actually be built.
Disney’s concept art is only useful as a misleading marketing tool to drum up excitement at what will never actually be built.
Disney used to have beautiful hand drawn concept art that actually looked like the concept being depicted.
Now they just have extremely vague computer generated concept art that looks AI generated.
None of D23 announcements spark any interest in paying for a day at WDW.
After learning about the allergy death on Disney property in the bullcrap they're trying to pull on that poor family with the Disney Plus subscription fine print.... I don't feel safe going anymore.
You mean to tell me if the pirate auctioneer's hand comes flying off and clocks little timmy in he face... "sorry, you pay for Disney plus but here's a couple of fastpas- I mean lightning Lane tickets"
I got a commercial from Six Flags before this video. Good Job Six Flags! You know what you're doing!
So, here’s the deal with the Liberty Bell. According to some inside sources at Disney, they’re thinking of keeping it, maybe even turning it into a seating area. But, on the other hand, they’re also considering destroying it. They haven’t made a final decision on what to do with it yet.
They could take it over to Fort Wilderness along with the other stuff from Tom Sawyer's island and create an awesome playground/exploration area for kids, like it's supposed to be. Most of the people at FW are the kind of Disney people who appreciate the outdoors, Disney nostalgia, and ask that. It will be used and appreciated there, and might even be busier than it was in the parks.
To be fair WDW has stats on what areas and attractions are popular or declining. At this point they will axe any low performing area for fresh new ideas.
Thanks for keeping it real Pro and crew! Holding the leadership at Disney accountable for the marxist mess that Disney has become is important!
I feel like I’m watching in real time as they make the exact same mistakes they made to “old EPCOT” when they got rid of Horizons and all those other classic attractions. At the time, a big chunk of the guests and fans were excited for new things. Now, everyone looks back at that version of EPCOT with such nostalgia for what once was… why would they do that to MK too?!
I’m not opposed to the parks changing and growing, and neither was Walt… which is exactly why he bought so much land in Florida. So they could expand and grow them instead of being faced with the realities of having to remove things in order to create new things like they were faced with at Disneyland.
Has Disney Corp forgotten what’s on the plaque at the entrance to Magic Kingdom? Just erase all the “yesterday” bits and put up a new plaque, I guess. Forget what Walt dreamed for that park 😔
Things just aren't adding up! They ruin all the IPs they bought or owned that came with a built in fan base, a loyal fan base that went to all the movies and bought all the merchandise. They remove or ruin all the things that people loved about them. Luckily, these fans tell you what they like and what you should do, plus let you know what they didn't like in the previous movie and how to fix it. Disney didn't even have to do anything because these are special fans willing to help and tell Disney what to do in order to be successful. Disney turns around and attacks these people, insulting them and calling them terrible names. Not only do they not listen to their own customers, but purposely do story lines and add things they know will make their customers angry and stop coming to see their garbage movies! And Disney does this over and over, going to war with their own customers!! You don't have to have any business experience to see that this is a terrible way to run a business!! Logic would tell me Disney paid so much money for a company like Lucus film is because it comes with a built in fan base! But Disney did everything it possibly could to chase away that incredibly lucrative fan base by insulting them and calling them names! I mean common sense would be to hire people who are experts in Star Wars and know all the lore. Instead Lucas Films hires Lesley Headlin, Harvy Weinsteins assistant! As if that's not bad enough, she has never seen a Star Wars movie. Things just aren't adding up! Nobody is this stupid!! It appears to me that these things are being done on purpose! And now you have this new parks situation! They are deliberately bulldozing peoples favorite places in the parks!! Things are just not adding up!! I have been saying for several years now that it appears that this is all being done on purpose! I don't know why or by who, but this all looks to be deliberate! Nothing is making any sense! It's like the people running Disney now get some kind of perverse pleasure destroying so many things that people really like or liked! Personally, I don't care about Disney at all. But I do understand being passionate about a movie franchise or a favorite place, but I also find this all fascinating because it doesn't make any sense! My brain is telling me that there's some kind of conspiracy going on at Disney to purposely destroy the company. But I have not been able to come up with a reason. But Bob knows, he has been the puppet master behind all of this!
It’s sad I remember the year Epcot opened. I read everything up to opening day & drug my mom from the Midwest to Epcot. We walked around in the heat with no shade, my poor mom got blisters on her feet but I was thrilled. My mom & I and an aunt went to Disney World Magic Kingdom too. My now husband & I went to Epcot several times it was fun & different with all the different countries. I have those great memories. My beloved mom & aunt are both gone, my hubby & I are much older now (oldies).
We have gone to Universal several times but stopped going to Disney when it started changing with its woke group. We won’t return to Disney I will keep my memories & Disney & Epcot will stay like it was years ago in my mind. We will return to Universal & are making plans for Epic Universe in 2026 and I feel the great excitement of a kid again, a kid on the inside an older on the outside.
Walt had a great vision and it’s so sad that will be lost and people will not experience the great things he thought up and the things I and others got to enjoy.
You guys always do a great job.
"Paved paradise and put up a parking lot". This will absolutely destroy WDW. My Father worked at the Burbank Studios while Disneyland was being built back in the 50's (rest his soul). Disney has been a huge part of my family's life since the 50s. Yes, WDW was and is Walt's dream and it pains me to see the culture of ignorance that have taken it upon themselves to decide what we're supposed to be offended by but also have the authority to erase the face that so many of us have enjoyed. I've been shorting Disney stock since April of this year. I have to admit, i can almost buy the Disney company myself lol Epic universe is opening next year and i'm willing to bet it'll take Disney until 2030-2035 to even acknowledge EPIC as a competitor, Disney fans, this is going to be a long, painful road.
Verified by multiple friends ABB not being rented for September and October. Usually booked solid, they have full months open. People just aren't coming.
This is what happens when you cater only to a certain demographic and not the makeup of entire families young and old. Disney needs to stop changing classics and stop isolating long time loyalists.
Although some will say oh this was expected, but given the quality, conditions and status of where the park is clearly this shows the current leadership doesn’t care about the parks it’s more about there self interest of course the high cost of a ticket is where shows how people feel about Disney. After all look the land they have around the MK and their not gonna use that for there 5th gate? Unbelievable.
it's called a "narcissistic injury". and while there are MANY narcissists in leadership positions at WDW, the problem is that Iger has gotten injured by Walt. by which i mean that Walt became progressively more successful while Iger, who was sucessful at first, has started face planting.
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therefore demostrating that Walt was "better" than the narcissist. which was not something Walt was trying to do. but which the narcissist is still enraged by.
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so now the narcissist will spend the rest of his career REFUSING TO EMULATE his successful predecessor. because if he rights the company by following the principles Walt laid out, all he has done is admit that Walt is "better" than he is.
I would love to have a California Adventure caliber Cars Land at the Magic Kingdom or elsewhere at Disney World, but not at the expense of the Rivers of America.
Not every Disney World guest has the ability or desire to also visit Disneyland so having a similar Cars Land at Disney World is not an issue to me.
I love the water, lush landscaping, and peaceful, parklike atmosphere of the Magic Kingdom’s Rivers of America and would hate to see it destroyed and replaced.
I’ve always wished that Fantasyland and Tomorrowland had something similar to the Rivers of America as they both have large areas that are ugly, poorly designed, unpleasant, sparsely landscaped concrete and metal jungles.
It’s stupid to destroy the scenic and gorgeous Rivers of America when there is plenty of space to build Cars Land elsewhere.
If Cars Land must replace any existing attractions, it should replace the lackluster Storybook Circus or equally terrible Tomorrowland Speedway.
I don’t care about the removal of Tom Sawyer’s Island as an attraction as long as the island itself remains beautiful, tranquil, and befitting of the area, but I do care about losing the ambiance of the Rivers of America.
The Rivers of America is my favorite location at the Magic Kingdom in terms of ambiance.
Destroying Magic Kingdom’s Rivers of America will be the dumbest, worst, most inexplicable blunder in Disney parks history.
They can't suck extra $ out of you on Tom Sawyers Island, so...
Bring back Aunt Polly's.
I visited Disneyland California a few months ago. The thing that baffled me the most, and ruined the experience, was having to micromanage an app every 10 min to check for fastpasses times that would randomly change from 1 hour away to sometimes 7 hours. That is an insult to a customer, and it ruins the whole idea of going to a theme park and having fun, not worrying about trivial things and just exploring and creating your own experience. Specially considering that people come from all over the world and pay A LOT of money to get in (it is the most expensive park around the Los Angeles area). I really can't believe Disney nowadays. I'd rather visit Universal once than having to get stressed at Disney 10 times.
Who are you kidding
We go to the parks every week and they are jammed
Nothing but click bait