Baji Fist: Conquering with explosive strikes
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Baji Fist (literally Eight Extremities Fist) has a mysterious origin. The records say that one of the first practitioners was named Wu Zhong the Spear King, who lived in the early years of the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911). He was recruited in Mengcun Town in north China’s Hebei Province and taught all his skills to his daughter, Wu Rong. In the final years of the dynasty, it became popular across the country. Now, it's already more than 300 years old. #ChinaKungfu
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"Life was very hard. Grass roots and willow sprouts were my only available options for food. But I continued practicing with an empty stomach. Nothing could every stop me" - that's the real spirit.
Spot on about the responsibility of being a teacher. "Virtue is more important than technique" indeed. I wish more Western teachers had this mindset.
Martial arts is a spiritual philosophy
" I'm 72 and I still practice everyday" And there you have it.
"To be a master for a day is to be a father forever." I may have misquoted it but as a leader of a crew of people I've been leading for almost 7 years now it's a feeling and virtue I live by and understand all too well.
Most of the commentaries that he made during this video I found resonate with my own ideals as of current, I've been looking into the Baji Fist a lot over these past few days and I'm starting to want to learn it for myself.
A real martial artist in word and deed. I like it.
Me too
I have been train in this martial arts when I was in China, and now I’m in NZ and training in kickboxing club been using it in mma sparring very effective! deadly effective! this one is real, no bullshit
Baji chuan fun over here. Success! In your martial arts journey.👊
I don’t have my own one, my mates don’t want to be in the video but find some other people been using this art ua-cam.com/video/K9it1ebG3po/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/uAED0EpfDys/v-deo.html
@@ismailibrahim1354 thanks
@Rip Tide I’m not talking about mma championship or competition! I’m not pro fighter !just sparring or street fights ! But if you doubt this art, just go to one of the club and challenge them and show us the video that doesn’t work 😊
Are u sure its effective? In this days, kung fu effectiveness is really questionable and even legendary style like xingyi and wong fei hung hunggar got defeated totalyy by mma or beginner practitioner of mma. But i do know there are lots of effective kung fu such as lung ying, bak mei and others. Is this one called bajiquan also effective ?
每次只要有這種傳武的影片，就會有一堆冬瓜迷、一日武迷這種半桶水出來說xx沒用、有本事mma，我甚至很懷疑他們到底連mma是什麼、怎麼來的都不知道呢，坐在椅子上出張嘴看別人流血流汗都好容易的，講得好像他們只要不練傳武，去練泰拳、巴柔就能在UFC拿冠軍似的。
MMA規則終究是打擂台賽，擂台賽首先就是運動的一種了，目的不是打死對手，而MMA運動本身流派也是很多，跆拳、空手、巴揉、泰拳、拳擊、散打...等，那些流派有很多也為了擂台賽而做出大量調整和接觸訓練，如果今天一個使用泰拳的低手，對上跆拳的高手，泰拳低手被跆拳高手爆打，你是不是也要說泰拳走上MMA規則的擂台下場也很難看?事實上MMA規則的選手本身也不會只練一種技術。
回到八極拳，這流派在歷史上本來就不是為了打擂台而生的，是防身、對抗盜匪、歹徒這些的，對手多半是軍人或悍匪、市井流氓，多半都不是專業格鬥者，所以比較的基礎就不一樣了，唐手傳到日本變成空手道，目的也是為了讓居民有個防身的技巧，而不是為了讓他們去打擂台，和專業格鬥者比個高下。
以傳武來說，很多時候練習的技巧甚至包含刀槍劍棍，MMA不可能有那種東西，而推廣MMA的李小龍也說過，在決鬥中為了獲勝，就算用牙齒咬也是在所不惜，MMA規則的比賽可能讓你用牙齒咬對方的肉嗎?
傳武有很多技巧和精神以及哲學，在設計上有很多智慧的，但再好的設計，缺乏理想的實作和接觸訓練、肌肉記憶都是枉然，你讓一個只練幾星期擒拿術的警察去對付盜匪看看，下場可能是被盜匪用刀捅死，那是不是要說擒拿術無用?
所以真正的問題從來都不是某某流派、某某傳武上MMA就會死的很難看，UFC 康納被拳擊冠軍梅威瑟打敗，難道要說拳擊可以統治UFC嗎? 要我說，我會說拳擊手在拳擊下的苦練和功夫比康納還多，所以康納在拳擊的擂台上輸給梅威瑟，這才是真正的道理。
八極拳如果要打擂台，那就必須針對擂台做出調整，修練者本身也必須進行大量的接觸訓練和肌肉記憶，這才是真理，而不是看了幾個冬瓜爆打假大師後，就一昧的否定全部的傳武，如果八極沒用，那它就不會存在那麼久，古代可是沒有擂台的，真刀真槍不是你死就是我活，一個沒用的技能沒人會去練的。
就算是大量推廣全接觸訓練的極真空手道，也會保留套路，他們稱作演武，就是因為套路、演武在自我修練上，提昇的是修練者對這門技術的哲學思想，以及Art的層面，極真派空手道是所有空手道流派中最不傳統的流派，仍然會演武，何況歷史更悠久的八極。
MMA 連最基本 猴子偷桃、毒蛇吐信 都不能用
This is more about the concept and feel of martial arts. I didn't learn much about Baji. I heard that it was popular amongst the bodyguards for the emperors in the Qing dynasty. You know its got to be real if they using it to protect the important people.
I'm here because of Leo from Tekken funnily enough and I've been fascinated by the style since picking up the character. During this video I did recognize his F 1+2 at some point during the video. I'll edit it in later for my own satisfaction.
Edit: 4:36 somewhere round there.
Despite it not being entirely informative on the style itself I still appreciated the expounding regardless.
It is my opinion that Bajiquan is the fiercest Chinese martial art. Fierceness is necessary for self-defense.
Bagua and Taiji masters in China were challenged & thrashed by a Chinese MMA amateur fighter.
@@SoldierDrew Bajiquan is deadly for combat & not as a sport. Try it out.
@@SoldierDrew n eram mestres de vdd e sim estelionatários
Xu Xiaodong nao persegue mestres de verdade apenas charlatões
ele ficou conhecido como o "caçador de falsos mestres" exatamente por esse motivo
I think that Taijiquan & Bajiquan are in all honesty 2 of the best styles to pair with each other period Taiji is a defensive grappling style & specifically Chen style with it's explosive energy is great but it obviously lacks striking technique due to its emphasis on grappling while Baji on the other hand is a defensive striking style with one big difference that unlike most other styles it prefers to be up close which is why I believe it pairs perfectly with Taiji due to them using the same exact ideologies when it comes to fighting concepts & as well both having that same explosive energy except one Grapples & the other Strikes making these 2 the absolute perfect combo that truly rounds out your abilities as a fighter
Have you seen the MMA fighter in China who challenged Taijiquan & Baguazhang masters in China?
The fights use to be available online.
Not one taijiquan nor bagua master was able to defend themselves from taking a beating.
@@SoldierDrew most people in China don't practice martial arts for fighting anymore they practice them to carry on the tradition but even still there are also examples online of Kung Fu practitioners being effective go take a look :]
This is a fantastic presentation of Baji, and so much more. Thank you
This stuff looks really cool!
I like how aggressive it is!
Well, you can watch a theatrical, hyped up version of it
in the movie, "The Grandmaster",
directed by Wong Kar Wai,
who made his actors train for 2-3 years before shooting.
@@mandalorianmoggie7108 Thanks!
More of these series CGTN! Pretty please :)
3:52 That fist...you dont wanna be hit by that fist....
Unless you hit that G-spot
@@Flokoli1 falcon punch
We want more of these series!!
Excellent overview from a Baji master. I hope you post sequel videos.
I love BajiQuan it is a great style that I have a lot of personal experience with.
Kung Fu is a very balanced practice with its breathing and conditioning techniques
It is so good for us thank you for sharing.
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Do they teach sparing traditionally, or is it rare and only practiced in more liberal schools?
@@TheSeanjohn2012 There was always sparring partner practice two form drills specifically.
It is a very powerful and hard style known as the hardest most yang of the kungfu styles there are many different variants of this style you basically use your body like a battering ram incorporating extremely low stances powerful stepping and stomping movements to creat force.
If you want to see it performed really well look up An Jian Qiu or An wushu on UA-cam they are the same person, he teaches in Asia. I think in Hong Kong.
It is by far the most physical workout I have ever done.
You do standing practices also which are another form of exercise there are so many different variants even of this aspect of training.
Exercises like kung embracing the tree in tai chi
Stand low in one spot like sitting on a chair for 5 - 45 mins in a squat position. you gain leg muscle like you would not believe it works on tendon strength it is a beautiful and incredible style works the entire body.
I know the Bioneer would struggle with the training at first, as it is like nothing else, that is to say it would definitely give him a run for his money :)>
@@soulmage9 Thanks for the reply man, it's been a whole year year since you posted that comment and you're still passionate about it. As far as I know An Wushu is in a diffident province of China, not specifically Hong Kong. There is also a renowned school in Hebei province, where Baji has most of it histor. And yeah, the bioneer would absolutely love the practicality in this art. Where did you learn it from? did you have to go to China or was there a facility in your home country? Or do you have a different kind of history as in research and playing a certain Leo in Tekken?
Time to read Kenji once more
Haha I'm also interested in bajiquan after reading it
Manga 😊
What’s that?
@@ZephyrRaze title of the manga that revolves around bajiquan
that comic has me baffled. a Japanese knowing so much about Chinese history, it's insane. one punch man is the only other manga that shows Chinese influence and respect for their martial arts. albeit, the crazy superhero stuff
0:30 😱😱💂♀️💂♀️
the only three technics worthy of the spear are:
- thinking about killing your opponent and the move you about to do
- execute the move, like you thinked before
- hit a vital spot of the enemy
this is the spear
"You never bully anyone weaker than you" - "Harmony"
Chinese Congfu is a journey to balance and harmony
Baji fist is apart of the 8 thunder boxing styles of the sanfeng pai. Each style has symbolic eight involved with it like bagua (8 trigrams 8 palms), fanziquan (8 thunder fists) etc.
What are the other five?
@@soleilsenpai2426 I'm not sure. Right now im studying the mo pai manual wrote by Zhang sanfeng.
In 2017, I saw a Chinese American guy practicing something like tai chi at Shibuya/ Miyashita park. I challenged him for a light sparring since I practice Wing Chun & several other martial arts and have boxing skills. The guy had an incredible balance, flow and reach..
simply could not touch him. Even if I am faster, and better at impulsive strenght I lost balance lol. Embarassing. You strike and he is not there, he flows through you. I asked about the system that he uses, it was 八極拳. That’s a lot footwork and crouches. Requires a kung fu mind. No easy outcome. These are no joke, if trained properly.
I enjoyed watching this. I worked very hard to learn. I am from USA. I practice Silat, Escrima, Tai Chi and Bagua. I mostly practice for meditation now. Love, Mike.
What kind of silat. There are lot of types like Perisai Diri, minang, panglipur, kera sakti >100more
Barak Tuchu.
I practice mostly for meditation, too. But I study Ninjutsu, Stick fighting, Thai kickboxing, Tai Chi, Eagle Claw kung fu, and, finally learned a little bit of Aikido.
I started my training with Karate and then JKD but I wasn't serious about training until I got older. I never practiced outside of class. I have been into martial arts for 34 years. Karate was very good and I still use the basic punches, kicks, knees, elbows, blocks, stances and steps as reference points. JKD is interesting, Jeet June Do.
@@1sunstyle Fascinating, I started with Aikido but I got internally injured, wasn't serious but had to change my style so I started with Tai Chi in order heal myself, then through some books, started learning Ninjutsu strategies and footwork, and finally learned Eagle Claw kung fu, wasn't easy but worthwhile in the end.
作为咏春学徒，我特别欣赏八极拳，我觉得八极拳有很多东西相通，也值得借鉴。都是少有的得寸进尺的拳法，很有意思
你應該學mma
@@goodluck42688 假如你有小孩，你会让他去学mma还是八极，咏春？
你玩儿去吧你！！！
八极拳里可没有踢裆插眼。
别在这蹭，滚！！！
武术和MMA的不同点，就是武术不是为了打擂台比赛，而是包含健身，修养，修道，防身，当然一旦打仗，就是从军报国，不管你武功强弱，有爱国爱民的心最重要！MMA是近代专门为擂台比赛而设计，就是把身体练强大了，然后比赛是注意保护头部也寻找机会直接打击对手头部，KO了就是胜利！在古代沙场上你能这么做吗？把对手打晕等于给自己添麻烦，他醒来还能偷袭你！当然今日你如果要上擂台挑战MMA，身体一定要够强，也要改变思维，注意护头，要研究对手打法，贸贸然上去，只能自讨没趣，不是武术不行，而是你必须善用武术的优点，必须清楚搏击的缺点在哪里！毕竟人都是一样只有两只手两只脚，不一样的是，今日习武者多不练体能，只练套路，古人讲“一胆，二力，三功夫”，放眼古今都是一个标准！
Chairman Mao's bodyguards are all Bajiquan master. Looks like spear form. Pretty violence in nature, that's the motive of this martial art. When in come to training, it really depend on which master teaches it and how adaptive your body as some training may cause damage to yourself.
I've read something similar about this in an old manga. Have you ever read KENJI? It's about Bajiquan. Great story.
@@abdillahazhar1833 No, but I love to. Thanks for sharing!
@@dexterchoy7756 No problem. Go read it and have fun! 😊👍🏻
Dear Master of Baji Quan fist, my comploiments and whishing you all good health, proper students and fruitful life. Paul, 67, retired instructor of Karate
It is good reference vid.. thanks! We can learn about Ancient Chinese Martial Arts
Awesome
10. ❤❤❤
Excellent indeed
ok any info on a martial art emulating bears? allegedly it was studied to create Po's fighting style in Kung Fu Panda....any help at all would be greatly appreciated. I see there is 'bear' as a 'form' in here but what does that mean exactly
Internal Chinese Congfu Baji never back down because offense is das beste defense.
Taiji
Bagua
Baji=3 treasures of internal Chinese congfu.
I liked this video and the wisdom of the master. He and this video took me back to the ancient days. Why not make a kung fu film called, "the way of the baji fist"
De Dao of Baji
Good documentary . Please post more.
I am great fan of kunfu
Juz sharing: BaJi Quan ( Eight Extreme Fist ) is for Qing Dynasty imperial bodyguards and was past down for bodyguards working for Revolutionary leader Dr. Sun Yat Sen, Communist leader Mao Ze Dong and Nationalist leader Chiang Kai Shek ( Taiwan ). Today BaJi Quan is still taught in China and Taiwan.
I recognize the music at 1:28 - _Licht 2_ by Megaherz; German industrial metal band.
(lead-in to next song: _Heute schon gelebt?_ )
Will Xu Xiaodong challenge and destroy them?
He even mentioned that practicing martial arts was difficult during cultural revolution in China. Good to know that they acknowledged failed policy. New China is different.
really need some experts to move to oxford uk and run classes. cant find anyone who knows this :(
we are also learning from GM Bao Yousheng' bajiquan lineage in Jakarta and Surabaya, Indonesia. Google us at Bafang Wuguan.
Carajo que fue eso como rompió ese ladrillo????
how many gates can he open?
Respect!
練無藥跟到老全傷
懂行。👍
實戰講的是反應速度及經驗
身體練再好，套路打再久，力氣有多大，沒有反應速度及經驗，上了擂台一樣幾秒鐘就被放倒
拳王泰森之所以為拳王，並不是空有噁心的身體機能跟爆炸力，而是擁有非常優秀的反應速度，當然再配上他的身體素質，方為霸王
中國古武術就像一把刀，各流派就是各種不同的刀，而使用者只是追尋前者步伐，花了幾十年甚至一輩子去磨這把刀，從來沒用驗證過這把刀是否真的好用，本末倒置
到現在只能安慰自己把磨刀說成是養身養神
試問若一開始就知道即將練的這套拳法根本沒實戰作用，只是修身養性，會栽進去用一輩子苦練？別傻了，每個人都是懷抱夢想覺得它將會是最強最厲害的，但說白了只是被這宏偉的傳承矇蔽，荒廢了自己的時間罷了
同意，完全没有实战，顶多排练一下对打的套路看起来很厉害的样子，不能实战的武术练来干嘛呢。硬要说练来修身养性的，徒手劈砖算哪门子修身养性，练瑜伽不是更好？
I love kung fu
練武不練功，到老一場空。
沒有任何武術的存在是沒用的
重要的是看打出來的人。
練功不練武呢？
Jonathan Fu 等于啥也没练........
@@jonathanfu3150 那就是健身了
No style is a style , nothing come from nothing and bad come with good. Don’t be perfect and don’t be imperfects be the circle that in brace both.
Baji as whole + pigua + bagua + mantis = awesome
TCMA, often said can't stand alone, we need to choose other tcma wich can supplement our first MA, but it's depend with our characteristic
Usually this day, Baji practitioner supplement their Baji with Pigua, some with bagua..
but no groundwork is there !!
he from Datong??
too bad only have short time in Datong, when i visit there :(
is bajiquan is original Shaolin or wudang?
🙏🙏🙏
Any reputable schools near Atlanta, Ga?
Bajiquan es la artes que peleo con pirata wakou japones
Is this in response to what Xu is doing, do you reckon?
For goodness' sake.
BaJi Chuen was used by the Imperial Bodyguards.
They used swords and spears.
Not everything is about Xu in some gloved up competition, you know.
Do you think Xu has witnessed beheadings ?
Traditional stylists are not intimidated by Xu.
Fake kungfu dorks are.
Men of real character have been through some shit in their lifes. Men who are characters are full of shit. Real masters always emphasize the development of ones self. Not merely technique, speed and strength. But the cultivation of the whole person. With the focus on humanity. On WuDe. I love this old man, he reminds me of my first teacher. One of only two martial arts masters I ever met. This strategy of Baji. You attack, and I attack you. You retreat and I chase you. Is the same strategy I teach the few students I have had. Baji is enjoying a well deserved renaissance. ''When the student is ready the teacher appears.'' Peace.
Overcome the darkness. Return the Light. Grow the Art.
Laoshr 60
Ching Yi Kung Fu Association
martial art。 please notice that word art！！！ in tradition, health of both mentally and physically is the priority of martial art
ekjudo thank you for your post. Too many ‘martial’ artists forget that martial art may contain ‘art,’ but it also contains ‘martial.’ A person should be able to defend themselves/loved ones from attack using their martial art. Unfortunately many styles have gotten their martial aspects diluted. For example, think of Taijiquan, which is primarily moving yoga/qigong these days ...with many the exception of SOME Chen stylists. Same with (most) Baguazhang, and even XingYi has started to get some ‘esoterics’ stripping away explosive strikes and leaving it as ‘linear yoga’ to complement their Bagua ‘circular yoga’ and Taiji ‘old man yoga’ styles.
Yet all of these styles used to be effective, which is sad.
At least Baji (like XingYi, although Baji is more protected due to it being rarer) is still mostly not diluted by nonsense. But give it time. If the ‘esoterics’ could bring the population they wrought on Taiji to Bagua, and they are trying to bring their nonsense to XingYi, it’s only a matter of time before you see ‘wushu-ized’ or ‘yoga-ized’ Baji.
Learn it and make it your own, and then teach your family ...because in another decade XingYi will be like modern Taiji and Baji like modern Bagua.
@ekjudo ´
the word martial is western, in china Gong fu or in Japan Budou have different meanings from the word martial in the west
If there’s someone better then why would there be the best? Just asking
no one excels in everything, that's why there must be someone who is better than you in the field you do not excel.
@XMB damn its been 1 year since i commented in this video
說得好
how can I learn more about the Bear form...
There's a school in Yellowstone.
古武術はどれも兵器ありきの技術だねぇ
just so so
Should be Li shu wen!
soft beats hard
Anything can beat hard if hard doesn't fight back!
Let's see how long soft lasts when hard goes at max power!
3:59 小咬，可谓十分的形象
樓下一堆人提到徐曉東跟他打會如何如何的，人家東東壯到一頭牛一樣，老實說找個身材比他小的解放軍也不一定打得贏徐曉東。難道其中一個武警/解放軍官兵打不贏他就是整個部隊都不會打嗎？ lol
你得分什么类型的解放军，你拉一个仪仗队的肯定打不过，你拉一个国内雪豹或者猎豹的肯定能秒徐半疯！特种部队的擒敌术基本上都是一招制敌，很多招式都是借鉴中国传统武术，八极拳就占很大一部分！
@@junhao9215 没错，李俊毅老师经常去部队传授八极拳
王世泉師傅？
想看冬冬 跟 八極拳的人 打，現在MMA 還是其他比賽 好像都沒見過八極拳上場... 有人有見過嗎?
冬冬的武館對面就是八極拳館
但是冬冬不敢上門去挑
有傳聞冬冬到河北滄州打假打到八極
被八極揍出河北
八極拳很多打要害是被禁止的
要害大力打下去不是死就是殘
然後八極基本功要搭配藥養身
不然全是傷了
徐曾經下挑戰書八極仇寶龍，人家答應了但徐取消了，沒打成
Go to the video "Baji Quan Sanda". The man in red is Baji. His opponent is doing Muaythai.
搜索季朝華的八極拳吧？
我想学，可哪有真有本事的师父啊？
From the 50s to the 70s flood of mainland Chinese fled poverty / cultural revolution to Hong Kong. Masters of this and that also went there and continued with their practices, set up schools and passed on their skills. In Nov 1981 they faced off against muay thai. The Thais wiped the floor with them 4-1.
You see, only Sanda/MMA /Muay Thai / BJJ work because they practice by sparring and fighting. They can do this fist swinging , air-kicking, kata, posture aligning ,memorizing martial scripts written 2000 years ago and do horse stance for 10 hours a day everyday for 10 years and feel really confident ... but you will be completely destroyed once you are up against a real practical fighter not just physically but mentally. The worst part is mentally.
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whats with the weird (out of sink) bat cave noises at the end lol
- Jimu の Nightcore - free material, low budget.
说得天下无敌，做起来有心无力！练几十年还挨不住10秒呢
we can try bro 😎
'Grass roots and willow sprouts were my only available options for food.' 'I had to train in secret before sunrise'. Gee life under communism sounds really good.
dude why? why? hands are going to be fucked
傳統武術都打身體，泰拳，拳擊，自由搏擊都專攻頭部~每次看實戰傳統武術都被KO~
Okay where’s the mma guy when you need someone to expose their combat skills
既分高下，也決生死
中国最能打的是梅朝瘋的九阴白骨爪和大俠的一阳指⋯
Test it against Lethwei....bet you lose
八极和八路是一个性质。
雖然感覺去打MMA一樣會掛
但八極拳就是帥
鼻唄三丁 用科学的方法练这一套，应该也能敌他派。当年老毛的随身护卫也是练这套的
如果是置于死地的对打的话，MMA不一定占优势。很有可能马上死掉哦。。
但如果有规矩，就很难说了。
MMA大多数只是在场子里有用吧。。吓唬人罢了。
如果街斗的话 不按照mma规定 很不一定哦 比如插眼击喉
@@图马 用不上这些不入流的东西，一个铁山靠顶心肘能站起来再说吧
看人用看身體素質用
八極勇猛敢鬥
這老頭說一點是對的
你打我進 你退我還是進
八極很多動作都是我靠挨你一計不要緊的
換""打死你""的機會
這種邏輯下
如果身體素質量級抗擊能力都不足.....
那就真的只能呵呵了
可是如果上述都跟對手持平乃至更高
搞不好習慣西方戰術的選手第一時間沒適應過來直接就中招了也難講
只是.... 擂臺不能""打死人""模式 所以萬一在規則跟防具保護下對手沒被弄到完全無法反抗
後面效果可能就差了
畢竟對方也是職業的不是路邊傻子
這時可能就得有替代的其他風格來擾亂對手
讓他沒法那麼快適應
再者就是那個萬惡的地板技巧了
除了日本這個沒事就在研究怎麼在榻榻米上跟人聊天時幹掉對手的民族
還真的少有專門研究在地板纏綿技術的傳統武術
該說啥呢？不愧是謎之大國...
柔術某些拔刀術甚至合氣道某些招式
都在對應 跪坐榻榻米時攻擊
而一般傳統武術 ""非常忌諱躺在地上糾纏""
原因很簡單
過去時代面對大多不會是單挑
你跟人在地上卡死不能動
那第三人就能輕鬆動你
所以反而很多會去研究萬一倒地了怎樣快速站起來然後立刻恢復防禦姿態
但..... 現在格鬥場就偏偏流行這種地板激情
真的沒辦法
只能跟著學才能對抗吧?
IS the BOXING OF EMPIRE?? 🤔 WHIT 8 HARD PARRA??
暗劲是好，但是需要练习多年才能略有所成及领悟，如果遇到一个抗打击，速度快及一力降十会的现代综合格斗家，相信在座的各位都心中有数吧！传统不是不好，有革新及走出去才能精益求精！
两码事，武术当年是战场上的功夫，你让散打上战场一样白扯，擂台有太多禁忌，以八极拳为例，擂台赛会允许你用肘？还是允许挨膀挤靠？允许八极大枪还是允许用大刀？传统武术在擂台上确实有局限性，为什么古代打擂要欠生死状？
光說不練，沒有，上檑台上比個高下，才能服人
這拳太厲害 聽說學了會被人打死的
这个不吹牛，真能打死人！就拿顶肘举例，泰拳一般利用胯带动腰去顶肘，八级拳是整个身体以肘为一点顶上去！力量要大得多。
不信，找一个学了这的试一下就有感觉了。
These guys will be floored in an MMA match.
止戈为武
Correct. Not me using these guy's moves tho 😎 thanks to good ole free sparring and shadow boxing=forms
Nobody cares. The best MMA fighters are constantly bringing things from older martial arts into their game - we see it from Pettis, Silva, Cung Li, Conor, Jon Jones. We've seen kicks off the cage, hammer fists, axe kicks, spinning back fists, low kicks, spinning kicks and all kinds of stuff that people said doesn't work in the early days now becoming accepted legit techniques. Not to mention Jones use of eye pokes and fingers - used in the Chinese martial arts. The question is whether there is anything in Baji that could be brought into a fight to catch an opponent off guard.
@@barbelljoe , yes the chinese spear technique.
humm wrong, MMA is a confusion of many arts put together like an abomination
it can never destroy a man who mastered a single style
馬保国的師弟
马保国再蠢的人也看得出他没有功底。相信马保国是中国武术代表人的人智商堪忧。没错说的就是你。
Erm..Wu?
For all my Older Subs U Can Do it Too..
八极拳跟佛有半毛钱关系
츄뉴비
這師父講出了練武練套路只是基礎，要把裡面的東西拆出來反覆練成反射動作，在聽他習武過程。就知道是有去練過真功夫的，跟那些騙錢的假大師不一樣
因為一堆假大師，弄得傳武被很多人看輕，可恨
八極拳？真那麼厲害？
日本有部老漫画叫《拳儿》，就以八极拳为背景展开的故事。
现代武术的主要功用已经是强身健体和修身养性了，不适合竞技搏击了，在那个武术可以用于实战的年代，是什么情况不得而知了。
但是武术的长久锻炼过程对人的健康是有益的，而且是跨越年龄的，而拳击和跆拳道是做不到的，很多拳击选手超负荷耗用身体，年龄大起来后身体会出现很多疾病，寿命也不长，也很难想象一个七八十岁的老头在打跆拳道，但是你能看到一个七八十的老头在练武术，终生习武的老者，往往到了七八十岁还鹤发童颜，精神矍铄，这是西洋武术做不到的。
这其实就是一种东西方的文化差距吧，底蕴不一样，角度不一样。
@@shihu885 说得好
內圍纏鬥沒有實際操作（sparring) 只有功體，中距纏手封手也是一樣
沒有實戰，戰時沒有。
其實不只八極拳，中國武術中許多的招式、套路的動作都是可以實戰的，在我看到泰拳拳王Sean chai 的比賽之前，我對於八極拳及八卦掌中整個身體往後仰來躲避對方攻擊，然後再回來反擊這種打法是懷疑的，但Sean chai做到了，而且廣泛的運用在他的格鬥之中。在他的比賽中，我看到了很多曾經出現在國術套路，裡那些被認為與現實脫節的招式，事實證明，只要透過實戰訓練，很多動作及招式都是可以被做到而且非常厲害的，不過真正厲害的還是那些人，而非拳法招式。八極拳的概念非常符合實戰，也非常霸道。但如果不透過實戰的訓練，好好去了解那些東西的精髓、用法，那就只會變成現在被人看不起的國術。畢竟太多的拳師、師傅根本連實戰經驗都沒有，對拳法的理解也都是來自自己老師的口述然後自己想像、曲解的，而不是在實戰中證實的，自然越來越偏離其原本的用意及概念，總歸一句，中國武術怎麼樣也是武術，是要拿來打的，整天只用講的不拿來打，被打敗了就找一堆藉口，那才是在侮辱、踐踏國術，武術就是拿來實戰的，也只有透過實戰，國術才會是真正的國術。
跟八極的對練經驗都很糟糕，很難收勁的感覺，練到後面都認真打起來了，兩邊出手都要傷人的意思。真的是很霸道的武術，但是就像所有武術一樣，很多地板技和拋摔的反應都不太強，硬砸硬架的功夫很可能會被拋摔，對練的感覺很像我不是被打暈就是把他摔飛，其實打起來滿無聊的。
少樂站樁 你勁都不是腳掌上長出來ㄉˋ只是橫力 無法收發自如
八极毕竟是枪术，其他都不是考虑范围内的，先天就这样了
每家拳種各有弱點，基本上還是用強處去藏弱點
學學拳擊泰拳吧不要浪費時間了
Chinese Muay Thai?
Qing Dynasty promoted Baji while destroying shaolin and other forms of martial arts. By design it's for large / fat person to harness his weight / power distribution. The average skinny person has not much to gain practicing baji.
Wrong . One of the Qing emperor's personal bodyguard was a Baji master named Li Shu Wen who was very short and skinny . People were actually terrified to fight him .
@@alexliu5636 u forget that this li shu wen train from sunrise till sunset almost every day...
@@ikrammaududi6205 I never said anything that implied that Li Shu Wen did not train really hard . All people must train really hard and dedicate many years to become a martial arts master regardless of their size .
@@alexliu5636 Average person does acquired nei gong internal arts like these million to one bodyguards with 10+ hours a day practice and training since age 4 well fed/well financed breeding of qing officials. If one skin person and a fat/big person practice baji at same time i guarantee you the physics automatically place the advantage to big/fat person. No matter how hard the skin guy train he won't win any strength or hitting contest unless he practice internal qi gong in addition to triple the training of that of a bigger person.
Pretty cool but nowhere near as devastating as my itchy trigger fist
文有太极安天下，武有八极定乾坤
如今，天下没有安，乾坤也没有定。。。
文有太极安天下，武有八极定乾坤
口說言傳驚宇宙、一上擂台全笑噴