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That's so strange. My program drilled it into us that teachers don't have time to make things from scratch. They encouraged utilizing any resource we could.
Makes sense. Why make something new if the old isn't broken
Good. The goal is to be teaching people, not making sure you can write slides.
Yeah but I can completely see how they would at least want you to learn how to do it yourself while in school. That’s what school is for pretty much everyone anyway - doing everything from scratch and memorizing information you can just look up in the real world.
@@pickedceasar1216 In mine we make everything for the most part they let us use some templates but we plan for a large majority of it.
@@annielynn8730 Yah I don't know why people despise learning base skills. "Well when I'm actually doing it I can just look it up." Yes, but do you want to have to look up every single thing? What if there isn't an updated lesson plan online, or you don't like the plans that are on there?
My teaching programs lived by the motto of “Beg, Borrow, and Steal”. Since the university heavily frowned on that last one, we were free to use TPT or other resources as long as it was mentioned in the lesson plan where we got it and the URL was printed on the PDF turned in for credit.
“Steal” is a bad word …. Borrow on a long term basis until whomever you borrowed it from forgets about it….. 😂
if it's like university courses for other subjects, surely referencing would have solved this?
or has teaching not heard of that concept? (I've looked into teaching but did two weeks experience and decided that I didn't like it)
Lmfao
That’s real life!!!
@@matthewticer8686 yes🤣🤣🤣
my AP always said “don’t reinvent the wheel” i’m working smarter not harder
that was the exact phrase that came to my head too haha
Yes…. I even have a graphic arts degree so I can make anything if I need to. But if it’s already available I’m using it. I don’t want to use up valuable time if I don’t need to.
Work smart AND work hard - Mike Rowe
😂
Any group who frowns upon help or unions etc are bad groups
Borderline Criminal, just to make people's life harder for no reason other than just to. I know there is no law but it just....feels...so wrong.
The Indiana teachers union is literally the worst. Signed away their right to strike for a 1 time raise.
Crt is bad
@@Tadders what?
@@Tadders That opinion you have is bad.
TPT saved my life my first teaching job. Thrown in cold, no prep time, that site came in clutch
exactly. You still need to sleep and eat
Isn’t everything taught in schools already someone else’s “material”
That's the whole notion of "teaching"
Bingo!!
When I had to buy textbooks for the first I was perplexed by the big copyright on my trig textbook that was made by my university. I always thought how tf do you copyright numbers and then charge an arm and a leg for them. Then I found out it was just reprinted info from another textbook with another author.
My district just set up a tpt account so they'll pay for the resources we need.
Our district just banned it. 😢
You’re very lucky
Yeah, my program told me the complete opposite. If it helps you and your students, there is no point to reinventing the wheel.
When I started teaching in 1994 we had to hand make everything! TPT is a heaven sent JEWEL!!!
Same here and we did not have a laminator either so I had to use clear contact paper!
Omg 😳 you started teaching 2 years before I was born . Keep up the good work 👍🏻
Seriously, how is it helpful to have everyone reinventing the wheel every time? That’s not good for efficiency, sanity or education.
I’m the adult child of two long retired elementary school teachers. I have vivid memories of the smell and the purple ink stains if I got anywhere near the ditto machine my parents had in the basement! Old school copying! And i absolutely used to LOVE to accompany my mom to the teacher supply store in our town because she would always let me pick out a pencil or eraser or sticker. That’s where she bought the workbooks and things to make the copies with on the ditto machine. I sort of want to show my parents TPT now because largely they (mom is 78, dad is 83. They each taught 35 years) always say they’re glad they got out when they did- mid to late 90s- because of how much things have changed and not for the better. I think it would blow their minds to realize the plus side of the internet and things like TPT.
(Also I’m realizing now how unique it is that ditto ink stains and that smell are one of my most vivid childhood memories 😂 And I’m not sure if most people are going to have a clue what I’m talking about.)
While it's very important to be able to do stuff on your own. The internet should be seen as a tool and should be utilized as such. This is like telling programmers they can't look for working lines of code on GitHub or tell IT technicians that they can't Google solutions to technical issues. The professional world needs to realize that using search engines is a SKILL.
When teachers use other resources from online, it’s SO NICE. Imagine yourself as the student, looking up a single question then finding the entire assignment. Dream comes true every time lmao 🤣
Arguably the best feeling ever
I'm a homeschool mom and I love teachers pay teachers! It's such a great resource!
"Can we not do that? Can we not use other people's resources online?" I used this line in high school all the time 🤣
Imagine if they told programmers you can’t use stack overflow lol 😂 i would be bye 👋
I would have never passed a single class
Imagine they didn’t let you use procreate to draw ✍️
lol I would've thrown my whole degree in the trash
Seriously!!! Our efficiency would PLUMMET
Copying code verbatim from SO into an assignment is plagiarism. Using things you learned from digging through SO isn't. It can be a thin line, especially with early code assignments.
Work is work and whatever rules apply, apply.
Not citing whatever (regardless of source) in a school assignment is plagiarism.
As a homeschooling mom, I LOVE Teachers Pay Teachers! It makes it so much easier to supplement our curriculum and provide extra work when the kids aren't understanding something. Plus some of the worksheets are just really fun and using them in the lower grades gets the kids more excited to sit down with a worksheet for a few minutes while I work with older kids.
I work in teacher prep. I tell my teacher candidates “don’t reinvent the wheel”. At the same time, don’t just copy stuff. Adapt and adjust to whatever you are teaching and to your style. However, they had to give credit to where they got materials and or ideas from - to cite your sources.
“If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying.” - somebody’s drill sergeant probably
The ability to curate good, relevant material is just as important a skill as the ability to make your own from scratch!
My professors taught me that “plagiarism is ok!” 🤣🤣
Plagiarism no, sharing yes. The difference is whether you give credit or not
“I stole this syllabus off another teacher”
When we need to go out and do a really similar mission to the last people that did it, do you think we spend 4 hours recreating all the same products or do we spend like a fraction of that just changing names, words, and rereading everything and rewriting parts to make sure we understand it and that it's applicable to us?
People get so carried away with the idea of not plagiarizing. Yeah, academic plagiarism is not good, neither is plagiarism for students when the goal is to create the paper or presentation, full stop. When that product is merely in service of a greater overall goal, why not? Is the goal to make sure the teacher can use PowerPoint? Yay, great, you made the slides yourself, probably could've used the time more wisely and prepared for more facets than just the slides in the same amount of time.
Same, my professor says nothing in this world is original. Just redesigned from the previous person. For example you write a paper on fish. You gotta get resources & materials on the topic of fish and put it in your own words. As long as you site it. It's all regurgitated plagiarism.
Just gotta remember to emphasize that it's not plagiarism if appropriately cited.
My elementary program also frowned upon using anything that wasn't made by the individual. It was the stupidest thing and costed me a lot of time that I didn't have. The only teacher who told us to use anything was the science professor. He was just like...if it's there, use it, that's what it's there for.
Surprise, surprise...an elementary school teacher who can't write with proper grammar.
He was a smart man with common sense. Just bc you're smart that doesn't automatically mean you have common sense. Those 2 traits are not synonymous unfortunately. I know a lot of smart-dumb ass people lol.
I feel so old, but TPT was created a year after I graduated from my teaching program, so we had to create everything from scratch. I also created tons of things from scratch my first year of teaching. It would have been so amazing to have TPT back then!
"Don't use outside resources, but teach them to use outside resources"
I get why if this is all pre-student teaching, though they need to explain it better. Yes, you are going to use other people's work but you need to know how to do it and be able to evaluate if the work you are passing on to your students is good.
I’ve always wondered where all those perfect quizzlets came from.
I used it once at the parent. Water spilled on a handout that was to be turned into a project . Upset child. Child found online. So I printed a new one. No regrets.
So sorry to anyone who went/is going through this. Professors at my school made us aware that teachers are "collaborative professionals." I just assumed that every student teacher is taught that!
We were given a basic run down of how to select good materials from TPT. I use it all the time.
That's a smart way to do it.
My mom is a K through fifth music teacher and she uses it all the time her school got some free credits and she used like 75 of them
I loved Teachers pay Teachers while homeschooling my kids 😍😂
I have always (since starting teacher training) made resources and put them online for people. It means I spend so long working at home but I enjoyed it. All my other colleagues used other’s resources and never made them themselves. You do you :)
Thank you!!! As a homeschool mom, I appreciate this so much!!
Here is why: learning.
Engineering is the same way. There are plenty of designs for circuits that exist where you can likely find exactly what you are looking for. However, the point of designing them yourself during the teaching process is to learn how to do so and much more importantly why. The why of it is what you go to school for. The how can be done by nearly anyone with basic knowledge but they are likely to make mistakes by not getting it to work right for their exact needs.
While I totally agree sharing resources is helpful and awesome, I can’t help but think back to my school days when teachers drilled plagiarism rules into us. 😅
Edit: I get it, it’s not plagiarism, I myself use them when teaching ESL. I was just making a comment on what my brain thought of at the time.
"It's not plagiarism if you change a few words" one of my friends in high school 🤣
It's not stolen, you buy the right to use and "tweak" as needed. Any purchase is a single user license agreement.....like a text book
not plagiarism if you acknowledge sources!
@@gothgirl2218 Thank you for actually understanding the point of my comment, and choosing to reminisce about your own school days too, rather than taking me seriously. 💜 I guess some people just don’t understand emojis. 😅
@@seganaleqa some people just forget what it's like to be in school. I also remember them drilling that into us up until my junior year when my teacher said " I know your just going to look it up and then change a few words but atleast read it first so I know im actually doing my job."
Lol teachers claim to make up their own exams and things and yet I can find word for word questions on quizlet. The only questions my anatomy professor made up herself were the convoluted questions with poor grammar that were hard to understand.
I was always told the best teachers are the best thieves.
I guess I must have been lucky to have had teachers that taught that we should utilize any resources we can to be the best teachers we can.
Senior teachers' TPTs provide the best knowledge
I literally had a science teacher who explained some basic biology with a Hogwarts presentation that a teacher before him had made along time ago, he did it often and it was always pretty fun because he gave credit and would tell a small story about the teacher before doing the lesson
🤣🤣🤣 that's awesome
I actually get why it would be frowned upon or prohibited while you’re taking classes that are about you developing the skills. Maybe you can find a spelling test or whatever template, but at some point there will be things you need that aren’t available. The point is for you to develop your material creation skills.
It’s totally different for you to purchase and use materials in your class since the point is for your class since the point is for you to teach the kids.
I was just hired as an English teacher in Arizona. I have experience teaching, but my bachelor's is in writing, not education. Building my first lesson plan, Teachers Paid Teachers helped me soooo much. I came up with my own ideas, but being able to pull vocab test templates or syllabuses has been so helpful in getting me ready for my first day. I hope non-certified teachers aren't frowned upon in the community. Oh well, I'm having a blast and want the kids to have fun too.
I'm am so glad that my program isn't that way. I even had a professor tell us to look on Teachers Pay Teachers. She would tell us "there is no reason to reinvent the wheel!"
Im so glad that those recourses do exist so that i can just google my assignments and get answer keys. Real time saver.
TPT is where I got so much stuff for the student I supported last year (paraprofessional). It made a huge difference in how much he enjoyed and was willing to do his work when it was formatted in a simple way with themes he liked, but as a para 1) it wasn't even my job to find him these worksheets and 2) I only had one day a week to do it (due to remote schedule). TPT is a blessing!
That’s funny I have one professor who gives an assignment every semester where you create questions for an exam. He either uses the format or rewords them some on future exams. I think after more than a decade of teaching he’s got plenty of material to choose from.
My teaching program used the motto "CASE" Copy And Steal EVERYTHING! Yes, teachers DO NOT have the time to reinvent the wheel. I can remember one of my professors saying "Why wouldn't you use a resource made by a teacher that has more experience than you?"
My program encourages teachers pay teachers and it’s amazing lol
My university never mentioned anything about paid content sites. Heck, they didn't even cover enough on how to make our own materials. I'm so grateful my colleagues are generous and we share all our resources, plus the school has subscriptions to various sites for content.
Well, I kind of understand for classes, wanting to ensure you understood what was needed to perform these tasks from your own ideas. But after basics classes it makes no sense.
I love TpT!!! Of course I started teaching before computers were in schools, and I’m here to say that sharing the good ideas makes teaching so much better!
This is a wonderful argument for why there needs to be a statewide syllabus with a shared curriculum for every school that is available to the parents to review, and one that should not be deviated from. This is ensuring that all students get access to the exact same educational material all teachers have the same resources, and all parents have every opportunity to be aware of what's going on in their child's education and the resources made available online for them to be able to help at home as well
There’s no time to make teaching units/items from scratch. Lmao 🤣
In the UK we have TES resources… that saved my life daily
The first lady is so blessed ..almost frm.heaven
Sad to hear. Keep hustling teachers!!
I’m a business student and my entire classes are structured to encourage us to use our classmates and any other resource we have. I’m a huge fan of education and want to see teachers succeed.
I hated EVERY SINGLE education class.
I taught honors high school history and needed more history class and zero education classes.
First thing my art teacher said " Anything I teach you in here you can find a video for it on UA-cam. You wanna take up a new hobby use your resources to learn how to do it nothing is wrong with looking up a drawing tutorial on UA-cam." Best. teacher. ever.
Makes sense to me. New teachers need to be able to build the skill to create materials themselves. With that skill comes the ability to recognize when other resources are well put together (or not).
😂 😂 My principal literally sat in her office with me and bought me a bunch of printouts from tpt 😂 it was my first job at a school and I was a performance major teaching music at a little catholic school...she was honestly a really great person to work for, I was sad when she moved to a different position. TeachersPayTeachers is awesome!
This reminds me of the online lectures for college courses, certain professors obviously didn't put in the time that others did. Why couldn't they work together to create one best lecture for the thousands of kids watching it blew my mind.
my science teacher, who is straight out of college and new to my school claimed to make all her material herself. while she did do a lot, she didn’t do everything she claimed. some students later found “her” material on teachers pay teachers under an account that didn’t belong to her. one example is when once in class she said “well, when i was making your notes i didn’t know how i would structure note taking yet, so you actually can ignore (whatever the thing was)” we later found all the notes online 😕
Keep up doing what you doing. I love your site. I homeschool and I use your site frequently.
Well, that's nuts! We were taught where to look online for both free and paid resources. Not to mention that the department in each school shares resources. Where I teach now, we have a presentation and suggested problems for each and every single lesson; we don't have to use them, but it's there. And if I go in and say "need to teach blah in 10 minutes, anyone got anything?" I'll get it instantly, including my head of department (and he doesn't get upset). I also don't do this often, once a year maybe. SHARING IS CARING, PEOPLE!
I'm a person who has a BA Edu and I live off of teachers' commissions. I don't have to go to classes to do the actual teaching so I have time to make materials along with the lesson plans. Some school really want teachers making their own materials to the point that they demand handwritten lesson plans for their admins to review.
When you're in an education setting, you can't use premade materials. That's plagiarism.
When you're actually on the job, go for it.
I have students of mine try to pass off online templates as legitimate work all the time, and that's just scummy.
Work smarter, not harder. I tried the work harder method my first year. Luckily I made it and tried the smarter method my next year. I thrived, my students thrived and my team thrived! I understand ,throughout earning your degree, learning all the methods and ALLLL the things but when you’re in the thick of it, you’ve got to work smarter, not harder. Support those teachers that make those resources, give them the credit and one day you may feel ready to add that to your plate, or not!
That’s how it was for my program too, abs it took me way too long to figure out I didn’t have to reinvent the wheel. Granted I usually tweak the ones on TPT, but I’m constantly getting ideas from others because if they offer to share that seems like a great resiurdd
i LOVE these stories
thats why we all find every test we take on quizet lol
Tpt is encouraged at my school. I got a lot of my kinder materials from Tpt.
Just graduated and will be teaching geometry this fall. In my 3 years in the education program only my very last professor allowed us to use TPT and only for daily planning. For our major assignments the resources still had to be original. Basically all they focus on was creating our own stuff. The job I took has all content designed and ready to use…
My program did this too. They wanted us to make the worksheets for our EdTPA ourselves, down to the question. I got told off one time for taking questions from their homework and just changing the numbers for the assessment I was going to use.
THIS is the sort of thing that make absolutely no sense whatsoever, that the district's administrators have demonstrated that they apparantly have something wrong with their logic circuits. Anyone thinking this through can see the benefit ANY RESOURCE like this is. The real skill and even talent is expressed in the choosing of those particular resources.
Please keep doing this teachers it helps he get the answers without doing the work
Our professors strongly recommended finding permanent material. They called it "not reinventing the wheel"
Same. And now I use tpt all the time. Why recreate the wheel??
Mine would make snide remarks like “you need to create standards based lessons and not what’s on TpT or Pinterest.” Like… teachers make that stuff. Go then for flipping it for cash.
I used to use my dad’s account on teachers pay teachers to find the cheat sheets when I was struggling with my work lmao
Yeah my school is like that. They say it’s because they want us to know how to make something if we can’t find it online somewhere. Just so we have the skills. It makes sense.
As a student teacher my mentor teacher was the one who turned me towards getting stuff on TPT 🤣 I would be trying to write ip a worksheet and she was like … girl just find it one TPT! Go to the free setting and you’ll find something! And yeah, it was such a a amazing resource! Even sometimes as examples for me to make my own things (like using a free TPT rubric for a 9th grade class as a model for me to write my own rubric for my 5th grade class). So yeah TPT is amazing and thanks to my mentor I know that now!! saved my booty for so many math and science lessons lol
She was also a big supporter of teacher Pinterest!!
It’s about showing that you have the knowledge and capabilities to create it on your own. It’s the same reason why you don’t let your students use their phone while taking a test. When they are adults, they will obviously be able to use the resources available to them. But, as a student they must prove that they understand the material enough to do it on their own. Basically, using another persons resources is cheating.
I’m all for teachers sharing resources but we ran into a problem with my daughters AP math teacher this year. She would use resources online but wouldn’t explain the material to the kids and if they asked questions she would refer them to the material. I had to walk my daughter through it while she’s in tears.
EXACTLY!! If their is an answer sheet to a test why cant we use it?! But when I bring it up my teachers they say its cheating and then I say why is IT THEIR!
This is weird, at my school we literally have templates for every thing! 😐🤨
Ps I’m a student but I talk to my teachers a lot. 😁
A lot of my teachers would use work sheets from the textbook, while some of my other teachers (like English and Biology teacher) would make their own worksheet(sometimes). However, my Biology teacher told me once that he makes his own assignments so students can’t cheat and find all the worksheet answers online. Plus his assignments specifically go with his notes so it works out and I respect the grind to try and make a test/quiz/worksheet
It used to make me angry when old teachers wouldn't share resources because their old teachers before them didn't share 🙄
Professors are obsessed with you having to work extremely hard instead of smarter. When I was in the education program I retook a class to boost my score. I used an old essay of mine and modified it. My professor told me before turning it in that it was plagiarism to copy my own work so I asked to redo the assignment and was told I couldn’t do that. So, then I asked to keep it because I’d rather get a zero for not doing it then get reported for plagiarism with an English degree. He then convinced me that I wouldn’t get reported and to please submit the paper. That night I got an email saying I had to go to a campus court case to stay in the program........ all over trying to improve my work.
What ended up happening?
The entire concept of plagiarism just got thrown out the window
Plagiarism literally is
Use of SOMEONE ELSE'S WORK and claiming it as your own without refrencing them.
You literally used ur own work 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
There is a distinct reason preservice programs don’t endorse sites like TpT: it is incredibly important for new teachers to be competent enough to create new materials for the situation when they CANT find resources. TpT is fabulous, but young teachers should be building a toolbox and their craft.
As a high school student a few years back, nothing pissed me off more than the teacher that I had who used only online resources and would “teach” us by giving us worksheets to do in class with stuff we never learned and she uploaded a bunch of PowerPoints to google classroom 2 days before every test which was the majority of information that would be on the tests. We basically had to teach ourselves and if you made the slightest comment or complaint about anything in the class she would freak out at you and claim that she puts so many hours into her class. This was a weighted class for seniors on Anatomy and Physiology.
My mom was a teacher, and she saved all of my old assignments from my own teachers to repurpose and reuse for her classes!
Teachers have been resources for all of history. My mum has been a teacher for over 40 years and the whole school shared different resources back in the day. The internet has just made it easier for all teachers to share from around the world. Reinventing the wheel is so pointless and unnecessary. Work smarter not harder!
im studying in ece to be a kindergarten teacher. our professors are like, "the internet age opens you to more resources you could ever hope to find n create your own. use it." they right. yeah you can customised and you can make your own sure, but if you need it its just there
I can understand, once you know how to and why, using someone else's stuff but not when you are supposed to be learning it and showing you know how to.
Years ago, when I was getting my Bachelor's, nothing like TPT existed. Now I am getting my Master's and my professor allows us to use TPT.
She’s so fire
So you cant submit someone else work for your training course projects??? Who knew!
Of course the upside for the students is that a recycled quiz usually means the answers are online lol
Wish this logic worked for english class essays.
I have people who use my resources al the time for college papers and properly cite them. I get emails about it weekly! Some professors and administrators are just out of touch. They’re ok with crummy outdated workbooks, but anything online is a no-no. 🙄
A student teacher told me she was told not to use Pinterest! I was shocked! I lived for Pinterest ideas!
At my university they taught us how to use the websites to find projects…
TPT wasn't a thing when I went to college for my degree. That said, I think telling teachers now to reinvent the wheel is crazy. Efficiency is also something upcoming teachers should be taught.
That's weird. Whenever I use someone else's essay I get a 0 and told off for plagiarism! So unfair!