How do they get away with calling this First Class?!? SWR Class 450 Review!
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2022
- Today, we take a SWR Class 350 from Portsmouth to London in First Class!
Date of Travel: April 2021
Class of Travel: First Class
Rolling Stock: Class 450 Siemens Desiro
Operator: South Western Railway
Train Number: 1T58
Origin: Portsmouth Harbour, Hampshire, United Kingdom (England)
Destination: London Waterloo, United Kingdom (England)
Cost of Ticket: £9.95 ($13.55, €11.95; including railcard discount of ⅓)
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7 carriages away? I hope someone didn't have an urgent "gotta go" moment on that train.
It's worth noting that the fast trains from Pompey to London via Guildford
A far cry from the speed and comfort of the Nelsons.
I get these trains every afternoon on the Waterloo - Reading line, where the first class is declassified. I always sit in first class, as it is much nicer than the 3+2 (without tables) seating in the rest of the train, and you can't really complain when its free! However, I never knew that the seats reclined, so this video has actually been very useful!
I'll never get bored with the hello at the start of the video
Maybe SWR should designate the seats in these trains as "2nd class" and "3rd class"? As a regular train traveller in both 1st and 2nd class seats across the UK and Europe, I would certainly not count the SWR offering as First Class by any means.
We really need a railway watchdog that defines different accommodation classes, perhaps with minimum standards for first class such as wider, more comfortable seating, extra legroom, wi-fi availability, plug & USB sockets, free at-seat refreshments, window shades, working air conditioning and so on. Perhaps this could be done on a points basis - so, if the particular unit on the service doesn't offer at least six of these, they have to operate it as a standard-class only train... Indeed it might be that these high-density units that are designed for shorter journeys, simply don't have any first class seating available - which would surely incentivise the train operating companies to ensure that the best units are available for those that sell the most first class seats! Lack of catering is also unacceptable: there is no reason a self-service drinks machine and a supply of individual portion, prepackaged biscuits could not be a feature of first class - perhaps operated by tokens issued by the ticket collector on presentation of the appropriate tickets. Alternatively, a pre-packaged bag of edible goodies with a bottle of drinking water could be offered. A general lack of catering on the train is no excuse. Likewise, if the air-con isn't working properly, the curtains have been pulled off their rails; the wi-fi doesn't work or the bulbs of the individual reading lights have died - the passenger is offered a claim form, and subsequently receives the difference between what they paid and the price of a standard class ticket... It's not rocket science, after all.
Back in the day, these services were 4CIG emus, with first class compartments. Six seats, not eight. Even though they were based on MK1 stock, they were pretty comfortable.
The second class seats in these trains are just outrageous.
Nice video!! The class 450s used to be my local trains, but have since been moved to longer distance services - it’s a real shame because I think these trains have so much potential for SWR, but they just need a bit of an upgrade! May I also request a review on a TFWs class 67 and new mark 4 coaches set!
Thanks, Dylan! You give us only beautiful videos. That you show the train well. How well you say your opinions. Thanks for showing us the London Underground at the end. Friendships.
When first class means being in a tiny box like that, I always wonder whether it's even a good thing. I suppose if standard class were really packed, or if you just really hate sitting with common people? The Öresund trains between Sweden and Denmark have something similar.
There is such a variation in the quality of first class across operators and types. If that is factored into the price differential then OK but this is not always the case. Thanks for the enjoyable video - was nice to see Portsmouth Harbour and its unique station.
I tried first Class on the Class 450 back in November when visiting the Isle of Wright for the introduction of the Class 484s and I was not impressed but on the way back it was quiet, plus wifi connections was rubbish in certain areas on route when you get no signal, great video.
Awesome Video Once Again Dylan👍🏻
I really enjoyed this video , the chances of everything going to plan for 48 hours was always likely to have the odd issue but it was still great fun .
This video was a great trip down memory lane for me. Firstly, I was born in Eastleigh and having relatives that worked at (what is now) Eastleigh Train Care Centre, I spent many happy day as a kid going around on open days and taking in the sights, smells and sounds (I can also remember when Eastleigh had 4 platforms, the original platform 1 now lost under the car park)
I just love the class 444, 450, 350 and 360 for their stability. These German trains really offer some of the smoothest rides in the UK
I completely agree with you, the conditions were terrible - especially for First Class!
Bonus points for the word "whinging" :) Thanks for adding the facts about Winchester & Clapham Junction as well as pointing out the sites of interest in Portsmouth.