Respectfully... no matter the drivetrain layout you still need the car to rotate to get around corners as fast as possible. Obviously FWD can’t power slide but if you don’t get the nose pointed you’re going to have a bad time. I think the trick to understanding FWD is in learning how to use the front wheels to pull the nose of the car in the direction you want to go and making the rear of the car to slide as much as you need it to.
Just got the game and I've been trying to drift with the starter car (FWD) this whole time, wondering why I suck so much and keep locking my wheels and flying off cliffs lol. Thanks for the straight forward and clear explanation. Really helps newbies like me.
I learned a lot with this video. It all makes sense now lol. Just got back into Rally racing games from a long hiatus and now I am hooked....all my PS1 Colin McRae days are coming back to me....on a MadCatz wheel. Got myself a T300RS for a slight upgrade from my MadCatz lmao...Love this game. Keep up the great videos
I recently switched to a logitech wheel after years of using a controller. After one month of trying my best, I could not for the life of me figure out FWD. I could even manage the Lancia Stratos after half an hour messing around in DiRTfish. Thanks to this video, I learned that my problem with FWD is that I'm trying to drive it like it's not a FWD.
I've finished my first championship thinking why can't I slide through the hairpin like all other people on youtube. Glad I stumbled upon this channel!
The golf kit car is one of my favorite cars to drive when I want to just take it easy and drive for a bit. It's a very cooperative car, it does exactly what you tell it to do and isn't very rebellious.
thanks, i was actually getting tired trying to figure out how to drive my starter cars properly, especially the 4 gear rally starter >.< its so hard to estimate your speed for corners with 4 gears and the corners being called out in 6 degrees of sharpness
Thanks for the great video! Does this mean you should open the differential for braking, and maybe lower the preload, so the car will turn better when off throttle?
Don't necessarily agree with all the points but a lot of good stuff. In tight to medium corners drifts to rotate the car early cam be really advantageous, also probably should have mentioned left foot braking.
I really like your vids, good stuff. I got two questions about FWD driving : Is heel toe nessesary wtih FWD and is it nessesary to press the clutch while using the handbreak like with RWD and AWD ?
HeelToe: Yes. It has nothing to do with the number of wheels driven, just with the fact of separating wheels and engine in general. Pressing clutch for handbrake? No.
In dirt rally 2.0 I drive a FwD care almost perfect but I can't drive a AWD on the game I always spin out of control. Funny thing is I drive my real life subaru very well but I never driven it on gravel or dirt.
But actually... I use the handbrake often in the fwd cars. All of my fwd cars have their differential locked and on hairpin, I rapidly tap the handbrake, downshift to first gear and power through the corner. Rapidly taping the handbrake with locked diff with the first fiesta R2 will make it slide as if it was a AWD car (but with a little less speed)
Hi, can you make some video advice's for Wheel settings and setup - I mean - wheel turning range (270/540/900 degrees) pros and cons, saturation, FFB and stuff like that?
@@randomfaca yes it works well and I used to drive with 540, but then asked for real Rally driver (couple ERC wins in R5 class) so he advised to use 240 which somewhere is close to rally cars. There was some period of adaption to sensitivity and in the end results are better. Have tried only for 4wd and 2fwd, RWD is still nightmare for me :D And yes - it is all about practice and personal preferences for driving styles
2:356:14 I need a car that can dance like this IRL. What do I pick and how do I build it to get wild but seemingly confidence-inspiringly controllable like this? I live in America, BTW.
Hi SKYRex just wanted you to know but I think you know it already there is a guy named GTR Technical that is giving mods and full setups for most of the cars for every stage I was just wondering if you can do the same sens I think you are the better instructor to get guys like me that are slow and really need to improve our times and driving technic so please send info Thanks A far Richard Reid
This tutorial seems really odd and filled with a lot of half truths. Yes, FWD can't drift like a RWD car can, but you can still slide them easily, even on grippy surfaces, by shifting the weight towards the front at turn in (lift the throttle or tap the brakes), the loss of grip on the rear tires causes them to slide a little giving you a lot of rotation (the same way you would rotate an AWD). On the other hand, FWD is easily the second best drive train to rally in, behind AWD, no questions asked. If you try to go on max attack on a RWD and the stage is anything other than dry tarmac, you are always gonna be on half throttle or just trying to manage oversteer to not smash into a tree. Other than that, the race line bit is true for all cars, unless the surface has uneven grip or there are obstacles in the course, the racing line is the fastest line. You seem to be mistaking the concept of racing line with what would be a traditional "grip" driving style of braking on a straight line, coasting through the corner and accelerating when the car is out of the corner. However, you can slide the car and still be on the racing line, that basic traditional style is really more of a circuit tarmac simplification to teach newbies, and even then, trail braking to maximize slip angle and attacking the throttle as soon as possible are still the fastest way around.
You are of course talking about racing in a simulated environment, not referring to real life racing in a front wheel drive vehicle. Because - if you intend your "analysis" to be based in the real world, spending 7 minutes on front wheel drive technique without mentioning left foot breaking, would leave you an emperor without clothing.
"You cant push fwd in to a slid consistent drift whitout use of the handbrake" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Have you ever heard of left fot breaking? If you realy dont know how to race a fwd rally car dont make tutorials lying to People......
I didn't. You can initiate a slide with a left foot weigth shift, yes, but you cannot maintain a drift. You cannot maintain sliding like you can with awd or rwd, which makes controlling the cars position more difficult once you enter a slide. Which is why I would avoid slides in FWD.
@@skyrex2465 I've found that I can carry more speed through a lot of corners, most notably a number of hairpins in New Zealand and a bunch of 3 tightens 2 type corners if I use the brake to transfer weight off the rear, which allows the back to come around nicely, while still keeping on the power somewhat. It's not exactly a slide I'd say so much as it as a sort of variation on a scandanavian flick or something. It's also useful in a pinch if I came in too hot for a corner and need to kick the back end around. It's useless on a long corner since as you said you can't maintain it, but if you need to combat understeer, it's still super valuable I'd say. Like everything, it's situational, of course, and a lot of the time it's more of a savior to stay on the road rather than the absolute fastest line. I do think a lot of the new zealand hairpins benefit from planning to do it though as well as a lot of corners that tighten halfway through.
@@skyrex2465 sorry but you are just incorrect there. You probably haven't quite mastered the technique yet or gotten into a habit of doing it differently
Respectfully... no matter the drivetrain layout you still need the car to rotate to get around corners as fast as possible. Obviously FWD can’t power slide but if you don’t get the nose pointed you’re going to have a bad time. I think the trick to understanding FWD is in learning how to use the front wheels to pull the nose of the car in the direction you want to go and making the rear of the car to slide as much as you need it to.
From driving irl and a lot of dirt he is just flat out wrong about always going racing line, drifting fwds is actually often a lot faster.
@@Safewooodand I’ve seen proper fwd slides that were better than “sliding to a stop”
Your knowledge is invaluable for beginner a driver's like myself mate. Thank you very much!
Don’t you mean “very valuable”? Cause invaluable sounds like it holds no value to you lol
Just got the game and I've been trying to drift with the starter car (FWD) this whole time, wondering why I suck so much and keep locking my wheels and flying off cliffs lol.
Thanks for the straight forward and clear explanation. Really helps newbies like me.
so around here 4:31 when you are explaining what happens when you pull the handbreak and gave me great insight on when to pull it.
No mention of left foot braking? It's a critical technique to stop you going wide in long corners.
I learned a lot with this video. It all makes sense now lol. Just got back into Rally racing games from a long hiatus and now I am hooked....all my PS1 Colin McRae days are coming back to me....on a MadCatz wheel. Got myself a T300RS for a slight upgrade from my MadCatz lmao...Love this game. Keep up the great videos
I recently switched to a logitech wheel after years of using a controller.
After one month of trying my best, I could not for the life of me figure out FWD.
I could even manage the Lancia Stratos after half an hour messing around in DiRTfish.
Thanks to this video, I learned that my problem with FWD is that I'm trying to drive it like it's not a FWD.
I've finished my first championship thinking why can't I slide through the hairpin like all other people on youtube. Glad I stumbled upon this channel!
The golf kit car is one of my favorite cars to drive when I want to just take it easy and drive for a bit. It's a very cooperative car, it does exactly what you tell it to do and isn't very rebellious.
Wow that was incredibly helpful. It made me realize I was driving incorrectly the entire time lol
Thank you so much, I have fixed my understeering issue, still need practice but I'm much better now
This is actually highly instructive, thanks!
Thank you so much. Really appreciate your videos! : )
You can slide with a FWD if you use trottle and brake at the same time. (left foot braking)
That’s why I dont use FWD with clutch, I’ll crash!
Amazing video, great work thanks man
Great video m8!
thanks this really helpt me
thanks, i was actually getting tired trying to figure out how to drive my starter cars properly, especially the 4 gear rally starter >.< its so hard to estimate your speed for corners with 4 gears and the corners being called out in 6 degrees of sharpness
Thanks for the great video! Does this mean you should open the differential for braking, and maybe lower the preload, so the car will turn better when off throttle?
Helpful
Super!
thanks alot :) can u make a 4x4 guide next?
Cheers!
Don't necessarily agree with all the points but a lot of good stuff. In tight to medium corners drifts to rotate the car early cam be really advantageous, also probably should have mentioned left foot braking.
I really like your vids, good stuff. I got two questions about FWD driving : Is heel toe nessesary wtih FWD and is it nessesary to press the clutch while using the handbreak like with RWD and AWD ?
HeelToe: Yes. It has nothing to do with the number of wheels driven, just with the fact of separating wheels and engine in general. Pressing clutch for handbrake? No.
I got this idea from initial d but...it works... with abs on, hold the gas in and break at the same time. Edit: ABS TO 5. I think it’s under assists.
In dirt rally 2.0 I drive a FwD care almost perfect but I can't drive a AWD on the game I always spin out of control. Funny thing is I drive my real life subaru very well but I never driven it on gravel or dirt.
You can still throw them into small slides on loose surfaces but you have to be very careful with the angle and throttle on exit.
But actually... I use the handbrake often in the fwd cars. All of my fwd cars have their differential locked and on hairpin, I rapidly tap the handbrake, downshift to first gear and power through the corner. Rapidly taping the handbrake with locked diff with the first fiesta R2 will make it slide as if it was a AWD car (but with a little less speed)
Hi, can you make some video advice's for Wheel settings and setup - I mean - wheel turning range (270/540/900 degrees) pros and cons, saturation, FFB and stuff like that?
540 works well on all cars, modern or vintage.
@@randomfaca yes it works well and I used to drive with 540, but then asked for real Rally driver (couple ERC wins in R5 class) so he advised to use 240 which somewhere is close to rally cars. There was some period of adaption to sensitivity and in the end results are better. Have tried only for 4wd and 2fwd, RWD is still nightmare for me :D
And yes - it is all about practice and personal preferences for driving styles
2:35 6:14 I need a car that can dance like this IRL. What do I pick and how do I build it to get wild but seemingly confidence-inspiringly controllable like this? I live in America, BTW.
I play on a joystick and easiest for me is rwd but fwd is just a pain to drive and if the car is slow even harder
great video thks ! but you should put the game volume down VS your microphone. It will be more pleasant to ear your voice instead of the engine.
What about left foot braking? You didn't mention it
well that was simple
A FWD guide with no left foot braking? 😐
That’s why u use a AWD car
It’s useful for the people who just started out or for people that want to learn something new
Hi SKYRex just wanted you to know but I think you know it already there is a guy named GTR Technical that is giving mods and full setups for most of the cars for every stage I was just wondering if you can do the same sens I think you are the better instructor to get guys like me that are slow and really need to improve our times and driving technic so please send info Thanks A far Richard Reid
This tutorial seems really odd and filled with a lot of half truths. Yes, FWD can't drift like a RWD car can, but you can still slide them easily, even on grippy surfaces, by shifting the weight towards the front at turn in (lift the throttle or tap the brakes), the loss of grip on the rear tires causes them to slide a little giving you a lot of rotation (the same way you would rotate an AWD). On the other hand, FWD is easily the second best drive train to rally in, behind AWD, no questions asked. If you try to go on max attack on a RWD and the stage is anything other than dry tarmac, you are always gonna be on half throttle or just trying to manage oversteer to not smash into a tree. Other than that, the race line bit is true for all cars, unless the surface has uneven grip or there are obstacles in the course, the racing line is the fastest line. You seem to be mistaking the concept of racing line with what would be a traditional "grip" driving style of braking on a straight line, coasting through the corner and accelerating when the car is out of the corner. However, you can slide the car and still be on the racing line, that basic traditional style is really more of a circuit tarmac simplification to teach newbies, and even then, trail braking to maximize slip angle and attacking the throttle as soon as possible are still the fastest way around.
but you can not sustain it, which doesn't make it a drift, it makes it a slide
You are of course talking about racing in a simulated environment, not referring to real life racing in a front wheel drive vehicle. Because - if you intend your "analysis" to be based in the real world, spending 7 minutes on front wheel drive technique without mentioning left foot breaking, would leave you an emperor without clothing.
I talk about left foot braking in my general driving guides. It is nothing inherent to FWD, so I didn't go into it again specifically.
@@skyrex2465 - it is ESPECIALLY relevant to fwd. But stick to sim-racing commentary, it is likely your field of expertise. No problem with that.
It's also really important in dirt
"You cant push fwd in to a slid consistent drift whitout use of the handbrake" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Have you ever heard of left fot breaking?
If you realy dont know how to race a fwd rally car dont make tutorials lying to People......
I didn't. You can initiate a slide with a left foot weigth shift, yes, but you cannot maintain a drift. You cannot maintain sliding like you can with awd or rwd, which makes controlling the cars position more difficult once you enter a slide. Which is why I would avoid slides in FWD.
@@skyrex2465 I've found that I can carry more speed through a lot of corners, most notably a number of hairpins in New Zealand and a bunch of 3 tightens 2 type corners if I use the brake to transfer weight off the rear, which allows the back to come around nicely, while still keeping on the power somewhat. It's not exactly a slide I'd say so much as it as a sort of variation on a scandanavian flick or something. It's also useful in a pinch if I came in too hot for a corner and need to kick the back end around. It's useless on a long corner since as you said you can't maintain it, but if you need to combat understeer, it's still super valuable I'd say. Like everything, it's situational, of course, and a lot of the time it's more of a savior to stay on the road rather than the absolute fastest line. I do think a lot of the new zealand hairpins benefit from planning to do it though as well as a lot of corners that tighten halfway through.
@@skyrex2465 sorry but you are just incorrect there. You probably haven't quite mastered the technique yet or gotten into a habit of doing it differently