"Who would win a prime Vader or a prime....." "Vader." "But you didn't let me finish the question." "I don't have to. Unless it's prime Sidious or Luke, then it doesn't matter what name you say. The answer is Vader."
Ashoka has already reached her prime in rebels and hasn’t demonstrated anything more impressive. And then she barley was on the same level as darth vader While Vader surpassed his prime three times in new hope, empire strikes back, and return of the Jedi (his actual prime)
Shout out to you for these hypotheticals, even though it’s clear Vader would win it’s still fun discussing how they compare as duelists. I’d say they were close enough to their primes in their Rebels fight that not too much would change if they fought in their actual primes. Ahsoka would try to overwhelm with speed and acrobatics and while that effort might be enough to contend with Vader for a time, ultimately she’d get worn down by Vader’s relentless assault. I’m just not sure Ahsoka is slippery enough to catch Vader slipping early on, she needs an opportunity like Kanan and Ezra’s distraction on Malachor to truly deal a lethal blow I think.
I feel like ahsoka would have a similar edge over Vader like Kenobi obviously totally different but i feel like she would have a splitting effect on him in rebels they battle at a sith temple on a darkside embuked planet in rebels so we dont see that effect when he sends her to the world between worlds but if we were on a more force neutral planet i cant help but think anakin would would shine through in vader and diminish his effectiveness in destroying her i think a full battle like in a live action could play out very epic and we cant forget the Mortis daughter transfered her force energy into ahsoka i feel like that has been burning a hole in filoni’s pocket for a decade anakin full bodied was able to control both mortis children but Vader with several less limbs? Idk good video!
I mean prime Vader is supposed to be the GOAT, so why would Ahsoka be able to win? The only ones I think could stand against PV is Prime Anakin and Prime Luke, which Vader is Anakin so😅
You are correct that Vader lost to Luke in Return of the Jedi, but that fight was not all-out. Vader was conflicted because of his love for Luke, and this reduced his power in the dark side. Luke had become much more powerful, but not enough so to defeat Vader fairly at that stage.
The novelization of ROTJ states that Vader realized Luke was stronger than him and could defeat him. He was trying his hardest, but Luke genuinely beat him!
Vader wins because A) he is more powerful in the Force than Ahsoka as shown by the lore, B) his array of different styles (Djem So, Soresu, and Makashi) gives him many ways to beat Ahsoka blade-to-blade, and C) Ahsoka has been shown to struggle to match the physical strength of opponents probably much less strong than Vader like Baylan Skoll. Ahsoka is not a pushover, and she is akin to a powerful Jedi Master, and she will hold out for some time, but she will not win.
They already fought in their Prime....during the episode on Malachor where their FINALLY reunited. Vader was never much stronger than he was there...and neither was Ahsoka.
Right, but for this hypothetical fight I said I wanted it to be a 1v1 on fair ground without all that stuff happening around them. Just a fight in a neutral environment. On Malachor they had Ezra and Kanan there, and a Sith temple crumbling around them. Tons of external factors
I agree. Vader would conquer Ashoka. However, Obi-wan did conquer Vader. The final lightsaber battle on the Kenobi show was one of my favorite duels second to their duel on Mustafar. Great video!
@@da-vidcargill4975Disney Canon is full of plot holes, lore breaking, contradictions, Force Female representation, inconsistencies, retcons, and the lack of respect and understanding the source materials. The Expanded Universe in the other hand is full of consistencies, lore accurate, despite a few retcons, it stills did it best to make it consistent and respects the source materials. So the EU is real Star Wars and Disney Canon is fake Star Wars.
It's not even a question that needs asking.
Vader wins...prime Vader splats her like a fly
"Who would win a prime Vader or a prime....."
"Vader."
"But you didn't let me finish the question."
"I don't have to. Unless it's prime Sidious or Luke, then it doesn't matter what name you say. The answer is Vader."
Or Yoda.
Retney it's great, you are expanding your content lore , fan fictions, now versus battles.I think Ahsoka would have, a hard time fighting Vader.
Atom Bomb vs AK-47
Ahsoka has friends. Vader has a creepy old man.
No one will ever beat Prime Vader
This should have been a UA-cam short.
Ashoka has already reached her prime in rebels and hasn’t demonstrated anything more impressive. And then she barley was on the same level as darth vader
While Vader surpassed his prime three times in new hope, empire strikes back, and return of the Jedi (his actual prime)
Thought out vs analysis >>>> TikTok vs edits
Prime Vader would crush Ahsoka. Fight wouldn't even be 10 minutes long
Ahsoka gets dog walked.
Without even watching the video, I’d argue both Ahsoka and Vader were in their primes during rebels.
Really? I would think that Rebels is too close to the OT, and Vader wasn't in his prime by that time. But thats interesting!
@@RetneysHolocron I'm not counting pre-suit darth vader and nothing significant happened between rebels and OT to justify a different Vader.
Shout out to you for these hypotheticals, even though it’s clear Vader would win it’s still fun discussing how they compare as duelists. I’d say they were close enough to their primes in their Rebels fight that not too much would change if they fought in their actual primes. Ahsoka would try to overwhelm with speed and acrobatics and while that effort might be enough to contend with Vader for a time, ultimately she’d get worn down by Vader’s relentless assault. I’m just not sure Ahsoka is slippery enough to catch Vader slipping early on, she needs an opportunity like Kanan and Ezra’s distraction on Malachor to truly deal a lethal blow I think.
Vader isn’t an old man in The Star Wars Originals.
Ahsoka lacks conviction
I take Vader, all day ⚔️
I feel like ahsoka would have a similar edge over Vader like Kenobi obviously totally different but i feel like she would have a splitting effect on him in rebels they battle at a sith temple on a darkside embuked planet in rebels so we dont see that effect when he sends her to the world between worlds but if we were on a more force neutral planet i cant help but think anakin would would shine through in vader and diminish his effectiveness in destroying her i think a full battle like in a live action could play out very epic and we cant forget the Mortis daughter transfered her force energy into ahsoka i feel like that has been burning a hole in filoni’s pocket for a decade anakin full bodied was able to control both mortis children but Vader with several less limbs? Idk good video!
Do Yoda and Vader next.
Prime Vader
I mean prime Vader is supposed to be the GOAT, so why would Ahsoka be able to win? The only ones I think could stand against PV is Prime Anakin and Prime Luke, which Vader is Anakin so😅
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Do more videos like this!!!
Ok but hear me out darth traya clears all
You are correct that Vader lost to Luke in Return of the Jedi, but that fight was not all-out. Vader was conflicted because of his love for Luke, and this reduced his power in the dark side. Luke had become much more powerful, but not enough so to defeat Vader fairly at that stage.
The novelization of ROTJ states that Vader realized Luke was stronger than him and could defeat him. He was trying his hardest, but Luke genuinely beat him!
I don’t agree that Vader was weaker in the Original Trilogy. The novelizations state he was at his peak during that time, I believe.
Vader wins because A) he is more powerful in the Force than Ahsoka as shown by the lore, B) his array of different styles (Djem So, Soresu, and Makashi) gives him many ways to beat Ahsoka blade-to-blade, and C) Ahsoka has been shown to struggle to match the physical strength of opponents probably much less strong than Vader like Baylan Skoll. Ahsoka is not a pushover, and she is akin to a powerful Jedi Master, and she will hold out for some time, but she will not win.
They already fought in their Prime....during the episode on Malachor where their FINALLY reunited. Vader was never much stronger than he was there...and neither was Ahsoka.
Right, but for this hypothetical fight I said I wanted it to be a 1v1 on fair ground without all that stuff happening around them. Just a fight in a neutral environment. On Malachor they had Ezra and Kanan there, and a Sith temple crumbling around them. Tons of external factors
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I agree. Vader would conquer Ashoka. However, Obi-wan did conquer Vader. The final lightsaber battle on the Kenobi show was one of my favorite duels second to their duel on Mustafar. Great video!
Disney Star Wars ain’t real Star Wars bro. Cope.
cry more, there are
@@da-vidcargill4975Disney Canon is full of plot holes, lore breaking, contradictions, Force Female representation, inconsistencies, retcons, and the lack of respect and understanding the source materials. The Expanded Universe in the other hand is full of consistencies, lore accurate, despite a few retcons, it stills did it best to make it consistent and respects the source materials. So the EU is real Star Wars and Disney Canon is fake Star Wars.