Imagine being the grocery store that goes out of their way to stock cherry tomatoes because shane wanted them. Then have shane not buy them. What an absolute chad move.
Steven: "What's the trauma version of nostalgia?" Shane (looking incredibly puzzled): "...trauma?" I freaking love this podcast, its like watching three friends just chatting in the middle of the night around a plate of good food. It gives me so much joy.
Aphantasia tip/hack here! So I have this and my therapist taught me a trick to help bridge the gap between a physical object and picturing it in your mind. Pick up an item (an apple for example). Spend a minute or so looking at it, all of its little details and doing your best to “burn that image” in your mind. Now, close your eyes while still holding the apple. As you move the apple around in your hands, try to remember what you were JUST seeing. So it’s not so much you “picturing” it in your head, so much as you’re “remembering” it. Doing this repeatedly with random objects a couple times a day really really helped me. I think it has something to do with creating new neural pathways, kinda like you’re rewiring your brain to make a connection between the physical world and your imagination. Hope this helps 🫶
@@gauchegreyhound there’s no treatment but it’s more or less a therapy to “help” if that makes sense. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to insinuate there’s a cure❤️
there's no way you guys ended the last podcast with steven's lowercase-t middle child traumas and then never talk about it 🤣 the blue balls y'all give us.
i am not gonna lie, people being able to visualise anything in their heads is absolutely insane to me. it's like a superpower. i have complete aphantasia, no outlines even - i can't imagine *anything* and i can't believe people in the world actually walk around with fucking hd images of anything they want in their brains.
My sister is like that! Which is crazy to me because I can close my eyes and envision an entire house-or whatever-and interact with objects inside the house. I can make coffee and sit down, I can talk to random people and go to parties or restaurants, I can live an imaginary high detailed world inside my own imagination
This is like people who have no internal monologue , which I only found out is a thing about a year ago. My heart goes out to anyone dealing with these situations.
I think he's losing his hair. I'm not 100 percent sure, but this style would certainly provide a reasonable explanation for what he's been doing with it lately. I know his wife cuts it, but there's no way she's encouraging that style.
I'm Audhd and I tell you what I say stuff all the time that should get me in trouble, not intentionally it just comes out, because one I don't understand what is allowed and the other part of me won't even think anything through
“youngest child is definitely the most conflict averse” is such a crazy thing to say to me because every youngest sibling i’ve ever met (including my own) has been notorious in the amount of problems they cause on purpose
I love that adds come like 10 seconds before Ryan’s says “a word from our sponsor” so it cuts back to the little woosh and them just awkwardly sitting there
I do Shane's soap trick when I travel, but with music. I pick an album and only listen to those songs during my trip. Then anytime I hear those songs in the future, it transports me back to those trips I went on
Hilariously I feel like they do fall into the oldest, middle and youngest stereotypes but not at all in the way they describe! Ryan is the worrier who makes plans, takes the lead and tries to keep things on track. Steven is much more concerned about letting things run smoothly even at his own expense and does his best not to rock the boat and is uncomfortable with too much attention. And Shane is an independent goofball who is happy to stand out but not even worried enough to fight anybody who disagrees with him. But then I’m a youngest so feel free to disagree with me 😂
I would agree w that tbh. I’m also the youngest but I feel as tho my lack of planning n independency has been a detriment to my life. Wish I could be Shane’s version of care free n independent lol
I have aphantasia. I didn't know for a long time because it's all I've ever known. When I heard people say "picture" a thing, I always thought it was more of a figure of speech. It's really refreshing to hear people talk about it more because it's kind of hard to explain to people. Making art is hard because I can't "see" it in my head first, and mental math and spelling out loud is hard because I can't visualize it all in my head. My partner also has aphantasia, but he falls on a different part of the spectrum and can see things a little clearer than I can. Thanks for bringing this up, Steven!
This podcast really is just three neurodivergent people in a trench coat and I love it so much. Aphantasia is something that is so much more common than people realise!
Discovered I had a deviated septum at 22, responsible for a lot of nasal drainage and shitty sleeping habits early in life. Undergoing corrective surgery is easily one of the best decisions I've ever made. Substantial quality of life improvement, fewer illnesses, and no issues 10 years on. Talk to your physician first and probably an ENT specialist, though I would absolutely recommend it to anyone who has it and suffers from difficulty sleeping and breathing on one side.
I also had a deviated septum. While that was being corrected they discovered I had an extra air cavity(sinuses). Had that also removed. It helped tremendously. I honestly didn’t know what I was missing. I think I have another air cavity that is blocking my airway again. By the way they originally thought the air cavity was a polyp.
I find the apple scale so interesting, me and my friend talk about this a lot because they are a 5. they cannot picture anything, they say it can be described in words but they can't see anything. I find it so fascinating because they're one of the most creative people i know and i always wonder how they know origional concepts of what to draw or paint when they cannot picture it first. I on the other hand am a 2, I can see things clearly in my mind so we just exchange how it feels to eachother. Also idk about anyone else but i see a green apple.
i learned that i have aphantasia in my freshman year of college and it was weird at first but i've come to be ok with it. the point steven made about not being able to visualize loved ones' faces is a particular point that has lived rent free in my mind over the past few years but i think as long as i have pictures and memories, i'll be ok :) additionally, there's levels to your mind's eye regarding internal dialogue as well. some people hear their own voice, some people can hear entire songs, and some people hear nothing in their mind but still have words/thoughts that pass through.
i love how ryan was fondly explaining how he'd get reminded of his first anniversary since he got married whenever he looks at his watch and shane just goes *no that's stupid*
The reaction of everybody when Shane reveals the store had cherry tomatoes finally was hilarious. I love this saga they’ve talked about this place more episodes than not at this point
I do the same thing that Shane does with soap, with music! I have certain songs that i will listen to for all of a trip and when i listen to them i feel like I’m there…. so cool.
I literally cannot grasp that people can’t picture stuff in their head. I’m like Shane. I can picture stuff in vivid detail. It’s all I’ve ever known. So I cannot fathom that some people can’t 😅
I also do the soap thing that shane does… I always buy a scented soap bar from lush, so whenever I’m at home and feeling nostalgic about a certain vacation, I just buy the associated vacation soap… for example, on my birthday we always go on vacation in northern Italy, close to Austria, and I always use lush’s sleepy soap bar and bathbomb. And if I smell the “sleepy” scent from lush I’m transported to all the nice memories from all of my birthdays! I also do it with music. Every vacation has a certain album associated with it, for example, during my last trip to the uk I only listened to Flower Boy by Tyler the Creator, and every time I listen to a song from that album all the memories from said trip come to mind. 1000% recommended
Shane and others on the opposite of afantasia actually have hyperfantasia, sometimes our imagination can be so vivid that we imagine doing things and it feels like real memories. I visualise doing chores all the time and then genuinely believe that I've done them. I also often think that other people's stories have happened to me, like if a friend tells a detailed story about an experience, I might later think it was me that had that experience
I don’t have that specific problem but I need to learn things visually. When learning a language I need to know it’s spelling because I will need to look it up visually a hundred times until I remember it audibly. I get so irritated when people insist on just telling me something and not understanding I need to see it. All my mental math involves visuals too.
Hey, Steven! Fun fact for you, there's also an opposite of Aphantasia that exists under sepcific circumstances. It's called Synesthesia and I'm one of the people who have it. The way it works is when I hear sounds, my mind creates "colours and shapes" that I see. Think "fireworks in your imagination with colours based on intensity and tone of the music" kind of like a visualizer music video. Though its different for almost every person, and not just limited to music. A good example is when I hear a loud unexpected sound, it's a combination of yellow and red and completely disrupts my ability to interact with anything for a few seconds.
Steven is right that Furby was definitely that gift to give in 98. I remember having a sleepover at a friend's house, and we both had our furbies out when we went to sleep. A car's headlights must have triggered them, because those little gremlins started talking to each other in the middle of the night and scared the shit out of both of us.
yo steven, for the aphantasia stuff, im definitely one of the people who cant visualise things super well. when i picture something in my mind, its like it has a black overlay (like an overlay of nothingness) that is quite grainy. i can picture an apple in my head, but i cant really focus on the details without it disappearing completely. i also find the scale of aphantasia really interesting. for sounds, if ive ever heard someones voice before, i can make their voice say whatever i want to in my mind, even if said person has never said anything like it before. i know people who cant do that and its wild to me. its also wild to me that some people can see full fledged HD pictures in their mind without it disappearing. the human brain is so interesting!
I got strep all the time as a kid, and it was a big problem bc I had huge tonsils and they would almost suffocate me every time they got inflamed. The doctors kept saying "we really gotta remove these, but we can't bc you're sick" and then when I'd be better they'd say "you're not even sick, why'd we remove them." I only got them out when I was 13 because they were actively stopping me from breathing when I slept.
My tonsils have been deemed Remarkable more than once. I have always been told they haven't excised them (I'm 49) because they catch all the contagions that would otherwise enter my system. Haven't had Strep since Covid/not working with the public.
Ryan and Shane completely ignoring Steven for like a few minutes while they talk about their own thing. And Ryan trying to make Shane vomit, are completely oldest, middle, youngest vibes 😂. Everything makes so much more sense now.
I'm gonna need Steven Lim to sing like Pippin while Shane obliterates a Cherry Tomato(Grape) from Lazy Acres and reenact Denethor. Then just dress Ryan with a white beard!
It's fun listening to people talk about Aphantasia as someone with very severe Aphantasia, personally i like to explain it as when being asked to picture something like an apple, i know what it looks like of course, but the image file is corrupted and i cant open it. Also not a lot of people know but it also effects dreaming, I often don't dream at all but when I do it's the equivalent of being blind since my brain can't make the visual information, so I'm often very aware of the fact that I'm dreaming, so usually I'll just let it play it's course but if I don't like the dream I can just force it to end. Aphantasia definitely has more downsides than ups, but one benefit is if I ever experience something that gives me PTSD, I don't have to worry about triggering myself by visualizing the event.
We learned in my neuroanatomy class that smell actually is highly linked to memory, as the path to the olfactory bulb passes through the limbic system (which has the hippocampus responsible for encoding memory, and the amygdala responsible for emotive states). Really cool neuroscience hack with the soap!
Once I bought a pack of tuna to eat in my car at lunch, and when I opened it the smell was so awful I went back inside work crying and gagging, and they had to give me different clothes to wear and sent a maintenance person out to sanitize my car. I couldn't eat tuna for years. Yesterday I was shopping and picked up some cat food, and one of them was open and rotting and the smell got on my hands. Not going to lie, it was definitely a little bit of a flashback.
This is hysterical and my daughter just had her tonsils and adenoids taken out and her voice did change but she sleeps so much better and doesn't struggle to breathe through her nose when she sleeps.
And Shane's Kryptonite is discovered. Also, I'm a 5 on that visualization scale. If I try to picture an apple, I get nothing and my inner voice tries to make up for it by describing an apple for me with words.
Mucus buildup in the nose is there to trap all the bacteria, viruses, pollen, dust, and other junk that enter through your nose. If you stop it, you'll get all the crap in your lungs and that will not be a fun experience. Also Ryan feeling shifting nasal congestion means you have sensitive nasal turbinates. Turbinates are like the air filters of your nose and blood that feeds the turbinates tends to enlarge the turbinates, making you congested on one side or the other. This is more prevalent when you're sleeping of course because you are on your side where gravity pools blood to the turbinate side you're lying on. Some people can feel this shifting congestion which is very annoying cause I have it too and yeah its annoying.
I’m an AP bio student who’s learning about the immune system rn. Mucus is a barrier defense that traps pathogens (or disease causing microorganisms like viruses or bacteria). When we secrete lots of mucus while we are sick, we are getting rid of a bunch of pathogens that are stuck in there. So yes mucus is annoying but it actually does rlly help in keeping the body safe from harm
When I visualize something, it's picture perfect and moving etc., but I can't grasp on to it. Like if I wanted to draw it, no. Kinda like looking at glow-in-the-dark stars; if you look straight at it, it fades a bit. My husband and daughter are super creative with art and writing, and they say that they don't have that issue. Sounds nice. But I'm glad I can visualize.
Steven talking about his aphantasia reminded me a lot of Bob Muyskens (muyskerm) talking about his own aphantasia on Distractible, especially since Wade and Markiplier are also very good at visualizing and they go indepth about the differences a lot, like Bob almost never dreaming. If I had a nickel for every time a podcast trio of UA-camrs I watch talked about one of them having aphantasia I'd have 2 nickels etc
Shane I do the same thing with perfume on vacation. I love getting a unique perfume, wearing it on vacation and then years later coming back to that scent floods all those memories back to me.
When I visualize an apple it's like that scene from the Twilight movies when Bella looks through her vampire eyes for the first time. Like it's a beautiful little apple. Also red. A deep red. I can "zoom" in on it. For some reason it's on a light wood table, shiny skin with some sun and a water drop on the apple as if it's just been rinsed. It has a larger top and a skinny bottom, kind of balloon or upside down pear shaped. No leaf. Great thought experiment, Steven.
i enjoy this podcast so much. It's such a simple yet interesting format. I love that you each choose one very mundane topic and talk about it. Keeps my monkey brain intriguingly entertained, keep it up 👍
Hi 👋, I work for an ENT surgeon. Ryan you likely don’t have large adenoids as those typically go away once you reach adulthood. However, you might have a deviated septum. It also sounds like you have inferior turbinate hypertrophy (since your congestion is worse lying down/switches sides). If you had chronic ear infections as a child you may also have sinus issues as an adult. You can definitely correct those with surgery (it’s honestly life changing). It shouldn’t really affect your voice in the longterm. Lots of people also have nasal valve stenosis. That repair is a game changer. Not all ENTs recognize the importance of that surgery so it’s really important who you go to. I have no clue about CA geography but my doc trained at Stanford and the program there is really good. Honestly, it sounds like you all could use a consult lol! Also, mouth tape does work but if you physically can’t breathe out of your nose it’s not gonna solve your problem (it helps to retrain you after surgery tho). If you want to see how good you could breathe after surgery use a breathe right strip and afrin before going to sleep. DON’T use afrin for more than 3 nights tho, you can become chemically addicted because it will cause rebound swelling with prolonged use. Hope this helps you all breathe better!!!
Also if this sounds like you and you’re in the NOVA or southern MD area might I recommend Dr. Ravi Swamy. He’s GREAT and actually a cool/nice person (just check his google reviews lol)
I did training to be a volunteer literacy tutor. We were taught that there are people who can’t visualize things, but instead hear them, taste them, feel them, or smell them. We all usually do a bit of each, but have a default dominant sense. Our group had a few people who could not picture something in their mind’s eye. The point of this part of the training is to learn to adapt your teaching style to that which makes it easier for a student to learn to read.
I got my tonsils out at 20 because I kept getting strep throat and the recovery was rough. Everyone told me that I could eat ice cream afterwards and that was a load of bull. Took me 2 weeks to fully recover
THIS! Got mine out in my mid twenties, the sugar burns. Now I snort sometimes when I laugh and drinks come out of my nose easier, but I rarely get sick anymore. Totally worth it!
I’m a total 5 on the apple scale. I used to be in a support group for it but it seemed like most people in it were really miserable and terrible support. I figured out I had aphantasia when I was still really little and everyone else in the group seemed to have just figured it out and were really irrationally angry about it. (I’m appreciative of mine - I’ve been through some traumatic events and I’m glad I’ll never have to visually relive them.)
I have aphantasia too! I can see flashes of detail but I can't keep it for more than a second or two. I also start to be unable to picture loved ones faces after not seeing them for a bit. The longer I've known them, the longer it takes, but max like a month
Also I got my tonsils taken out when I was like 21 and it was the WORST. Remember the last time you really burned your tongue? Imagine that but x10 and the entire back of your throat lol bc they laser them now
Tonsils and mucus are the linebackers against germs. I don’t regret it, but after I got my tonsils out, colds/flus pretty directly cause bronchitis. Also wonder if they all have sleep apnea due to their deviated septums.
Steven: "When I say 'visualize an apple,' what do you see?" Shane: "I see an apple." God I love this podcast
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“I don’t understand what your face means right now” really speaks to me as an autistic person
Right? Normalize making people put things in words!
Lmao I posted essentially this comment a split second before reading yours
the moment they said that i was like.... yeah my autistic ass would say something like that 😅
Just tell it how it is leader!! 😅🫡
Imagine being the grocery store that goes out of their way to stock cherry tomatoes because shane wanted them. Then have shane not buy them. What an absolute chad move.
one thing about shane is he LOVES A RUNNING BIT!!!! i respect it deeply. the hotdaga. the extensive puppet history lore. lazy acres.
Hot Daga needs to have a revival
@@jackroberts2704i recently rewatched it all i miss it so bad
i forgot about the hotdoga oh my god
my favorite part of this podcast is shanes updates from lazy acres
me too haha
literally I hope this bit lasts forever
I laugh every single time he brings it up ahhaha
At this point, I wonder if there are already fanfics about Shane/Lazy acres out there.
Me too😂😂😂
Steven: "What's the trauma version of nostalgia?"
Shane (looking incredibly puzzled): "...trauma?"
I freaking love this podcast, its like watching three friends just chatting in the middle of the night around a plate of good food. It gives me so much joy.
Repressed memories?
😂 What the hell is this toxic relationship Shane got goin’ with this grocery store?
Sounds like he’s subtly “fixing” the store’s issues..ie cherry tomatoes, coffee
I ship it /j
Ryan 100% is the oldest.
He has that anxiety and panic that all oldest children have 😂.
Shane getting so grossed out he nearly throws up while Ryan laughs was hilarious. So was Stevens “get on your knees” story
“I like to be at the mercy of the world”. Steven’s really proving he’s a middle child with that statement.
I absolutely love how in every episode lazy acres has an appearance 😭
the boobs_69_420 of this show
Shane being the youngest child makes so much sense. As does Ryan being the oldest and Steven being a middle child. 😂
Steven's stories of trying to socialize are so painful I'm dying along with Ryan
I do thank God for Steven Lim every day, it's true
“Tape each others mouths, try to remember what we look like” 💀 Shane in the background is always the best Shane
I love how Shane's topic is soap and immediately my thought was, "Is this a Lazy Acres thing? I hope it's a Lazy Acres thing."
Aphantasia tip/hack here! So I have this and my therapist taught me a trick to help bridge the gap between a physical object and picturing it in your mind. Pick up an item (an apple for example). Spend a minute or so looking at it, all of its little details and doing your best to “burn that image” in your mind. Now, close your eyes while still holding the apple. As you move the apple around in your hands, try to remember what you were JUST seeing. So it’s not so much you “picturing” it in your head, so much as you’re “remembering” it. Doing this repeatedly with random objects a couple times a day really really helped me. I think it has something to do with creating new neural pathways, kinda like you’re rewiring your brain to make a connection between the physical world and your imagination. Hope this helps 🫶
oh this is really smart, thank you
Oh wow! I didn't know there was treatment for aphantasia 😮
@@gauchegreyhound there’s no treatment but it’s more or less a therapy to “help” if that makes sense. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to insinuate there’s a cure❤️
Thank you for this!!!!
Wow this is really interesting and exciting!!
I'm on the spectrum and "I don't understand what your face means" may be the most relatable phrase of all time
The boys are apparently switching who the lighthouse keeper is each week
steven’s kind of the star of the pod so far
We're getting a look into why Ryan and Shane think he's an alien and it's fascinating
@@digitalsoopthey have a demon an alien and a Ryan 😭
there's no way you guys ended the last podcast with steven's lowercase-t middle child traumas and then never talk about it 🤣 the blue balls y'all give us.
The ongoing saga of Shane and Lonely Acres is an intense roller coaster ride of emotion
Shane's ambiguous relationship with Lazy Acres is very similar to his relationship with ghost hunting/being a ghost hunter
i am not gonna lie, people being able to visualise anything in their heads is absolutely insane to me. it's like a superpower. i have complete aphantasia, no outlines even - i can't imagine *anything* and i can't believe people in the world actually walk around with fucking hd images of anything they want in their brains.
My sister is like that! Which is crazy to me because I can close my eyes and envision an entire house-or whatever-and interact with objects inside the house. I can make coffee and sit down, I can talk to random people and go to parties or restaurants, I can live an imaginary high detailed world inside my own imagination
What is life like for you 😭 your minds eye is just empty?
@online2002. that sounds absolutely wild to me, i wish i could do that 😭 it's like y'all have a full movie in your heads and i just have an audiobook
@Cinnamarollin yeah, like if i close my eyes it's just complete darkness and i can never imagine anything at all
This is like people who have no internal monologue , which I only found out is a thing about a year ago. My heart goes out to anyone dealing with these situations.
If that damned supermarket doesn't sponsor them one day. I mean, they get mentioned every single day. I want to go there, and I'm living in the UK.
Steven is rocking a real intense comb foreward bowl cut as of late and I think it needs to be addressed
His wife has lovingly created that haircut for him!
His wife cuts his hair lol
@@deafcatforcutie lol I forgot! It would be a fine hair cut if he didn't brush all the hair from the back of his head to his forehead!
Let the man do what he wants with his hair, I say
I think he's losing his hair. I'm not 100 percent sure, but this style would certainly provide a reasonable explanation for what he's been doing with it lately. I know his wife cuts it, but there's no way she's encouraging that style.
I feel for Steven. I have no filter when I talk and I sometimes say things that should get me in some real trouble😅
Me too
I'm Audhd and I tell you what I say stuff all the time that should get me in trouble, not intentionally it just comes out, because one I don't understand what is allowed and the other part of me won't even think anything through
i can’t explain how much i relate to steven accidentally saying the wrong things
Please have more of Stevens stories! I cannot 🤣🤣🤣 Make Stevens notesapp corner happen!
“youngest child is definitely the most conflict averse” is such a crazy thing to say to me because every youngest sibling i’ve ever met (including my own) has been notorious in the amount of problems they cause on purpose
I love that adds come like 10 seconds before Ryan’s says “a word from our sponsor” so it cuts back to the little woosh and them just awkwardly sitting there
I’m SO invested in this grocery store saga. More invested than I should be.
I do Shane's soap trick when I travel, but with music. I pick an album and only listen to those songs during my trip. Then anytime I hear those songs in the future, it transports me back to those trips I went on
Clicked just for the title alone! 😂
Hilariously I feel like they do fall into the oldest, middle and youngest stereotypes but not at all in the way they describe! Ryan is the worrier who makes plans, takes the lead and tries to keep things on track.
Steven is much more concerned about letting things run smoothly even at his own expense and does his best not to rock the boat and is uncomfortable with too much attention.
And Shane is an independent goofball who is happy to stand out but not even worried enough to fight anybody who disagrees with him.
But then I’m a youngest so feel free to disagree with me 😂
Wow I really love this description of them!! It’s so true
I would agree w that tbh. I’m also the youngest but I feel as tho my lack of planning n independency has been a detriment to my life. Wish I could be Shane’s version of care free n independent lol
I wish they gave Steven more time to talk about the apple thing. I think his perspective is fascinating.
the amount of times I just absolutely lost it this episode. why is steven lim the funniest person ever.
I have aphantasia. I didn't know for a long time because it's all I've ever known. When I heard people say "picture" a thing, I always thought it was more of a figure of speech. It's really refreshing to hear people talk about it more because it's kind of hard to explain to people. Making art is hard because I can't "see" it in my head first, and mental math and spelling out loud is hard because I can't visualize it all in my head. My partner also has aphantasia, but he falls on a different part of the spectrum and can see things a little clearer than I can. Thanks for bringing this up, Steven!
I absolutely love the vacation soap idea from Shane, I've always felt like scent-based memories are the most vivid ones
This podcast really is just three neurodivergent people in a trench coat and I love it so much. Aphantasia is something that is so much more common than people realise!
Discovered I had a deviated septum at 22, responsible for a lot of nasal drainage and shitty sleeping habits early in life. Undergoing corrective surgery is easily one of the best decisions I've ever made. Substantial quality of life improvement, fewer illnesses, and no issues 10 years on. Talk to your physician first and probably an ENT specialist, though I would absolutely recommend it to anyone who has it and suffers from difficulty sleeping and breathing on one side.
I also had a deviated septum. While that was being corrected they discovered I had an extra air cavity(sinuses). Had that also removed. It helped tremendously. I honestly didn’t know what I was missing.
I think I have another air cavity that is blocking my airway again.
By the way they originally thought the air cavity was a polyp.
Nose, soap, apple as a title really drew me in, once I saw the notification I had to click
I find the apple scale so interesting, me and my friend talk about this a lot because they are a 5. they cannot picture anything, they say it can be described in words but they can't see anything. I find it so fascinating because they're one of the most creative people i know and i always wonder how they know origional concepts of what to draw or paint when they cannot picture it first. I on the other hand am a 2, I can see things clearly in my mind so we just exchange how it feels to eachother. Also idk about anyone else but i see a green apple.
YES TOONCES FINALLY GETS THE RESPECT HE DESERVES
You love to see it!!!
i learned that i have aphantasia in my freshman year of college and it was weird at first but i've come to be ok with it. the point steven made about not being able to visualize loved ones' faces is a particular point that has lived rent free in my mind over the past few years but i think as long as i have pictures and memories, i'll be ok :)
additionally, there's levels to your mind's eye regarding internal dialogue as well. some people hear their own voice, some people can hear entire songs, and some people hear nothing in their mind but still have words/thoughts that pass through.
i love how ryan was fondly explaining how he'd get reminded of his first anniversary since he got married whenever he looks at his watch and shane just goes *no that's stupid*
I'm so invested in this grocery store right now.... like I live nowhere near there but Shane has sparked my intrigue
The reaction of everybody when Shane reveals the store had cherry tomatoes finally was hilarious. I love this saga they’ve talked about this place more episodes than not at this point
The bit of Shane showing his friends weird shit on his phone remains very funny
I do the same thing that Shane does with soap, with music! I have certain songs that i will listen to for all of a trip and when i listen to them i feel like I’m there…. so cool.
I literally cannot grasp that people can’t picture stuff in their head. I’m like Shane. I can picture stuff in vivid detail. It’s all I’ve ever known. So I cannot fathom that some people can’t 😅
It’s so interesting hearing Steven talking about hypo/aphantasia because I’ve gone through the same experience and it’s equally fascinating to me!
I also do the soap thing that shane does… I always buy a scented soap bar from lush, so whenever I’m at home and feeling nostalgic about a certain vacation, I just buy the associated vacation soap… for example, on my birthday we always go on vacation in northern Italy, close to Austria, and I always use lush’s sleepy soap bar and bathbomb. And if I smell the “sleepy” scent from lush I’m transported to all the nice memories from all of my birthdays! I also do it with music. Every vacation has a certain album associated with it, for example, during my last trip to the uk I only listened to Flower Boy by Tyler the Creator, and every time I listen to a song from that album all the memories from said trip come to mind. 1000% recommended
Shane and others on the opposite of afantasia actually have hyperfantasia, sometimes our imagination can be so vivid that we imagine doing things and it feels like real memories. I visualise doing chores all the time and then genuinely believe that I've done them. I also often think that other people's stories have happened to me, like if a friend tells a detailed story about an experience, I might later think it was me that had that experience
I don’t have that specific problem but I need to learn things visually. When learning a language I need to know it’s spelling because I will need to look it up visually a hundred times until I remember it audibly. I get so irritated when people insist on just telling me something and not understanding I need to see it. All my mental math involves visuals too.
At Least Steven admitted That Ryan and the Professor are the most Important things at Watcher…. Other than himself 😂
Shane's soap story-that's because our olfactory sense is the strongest for memory recollection, iirc
Hey, Steven! Fun fact for you, there's also an opposite of Aphantasia that exists under sepcific circumstances. It's called Synesthesia and I'm one of the people who have it.
The way it works is when I hear sounds, my mind creates "colours and shapes" that I see. Think "fireworks in your imagination with colours based on intensity and tone of the music" kind of like a visualizer music video. Though its different for almost every person, and not just limited to music.
A good example is when I hear a loud unexpected sound, it's a combination of yellow and red and completely disrupts my ability to interact with anything for a few seconds.
On the aphantasia thing, as an animator not only can i picture an apple, i can picture a fully rendered articulated 3D hand, tendons and all
Steven is right that Furby was definitely that gift to give in 98. I remember having a sleepover at a friend's house, and we both had our furbies out when we went to sleep. A car's headlights must have triggered them, because those little gremlins started talking to each other in the middle of the night and scared the shit out of both of us.
I love that Shane and his grocery storyline has maintained every episode since the original.
lazy acres gonna become a national chain because of this podcast
yo steven, for the aphantasia stuff, im definitely one of the people who cant visualise things super well. when i picture something in my mind, its like it has a black overlay (like an overlay of nothingness) that is quite grainy. i can picture an apple in my head, but i cant really focus on the details without it disappearing completely. i also find the scale of aphantasia really interesting. for sounds, if ive ever heard someones voice before, i can make their voice say whatever i want to in my mind, even if said person has never said anything like it before. i know people who cant do that and its wild to me. its also wild to me that some people can see full fledged HD pictures in their mind without it disappearing. the human brain is so interesting!
I got strep all the time as a kid, and it was a big problem bc I had huge tonsils and they would almost suffocate me every time they got inflamed. The doctors kept saying "we really gotta remove these, but we can't bc you're sick" and then when I'd be better they'd say "you're not even sick, why'd we remove them." I only got them out when I was 13 because they were actively stopping me from breathing when I slept.
My tonsils have been deemed Remarkable more than once. I have always been told they haven't excised them (I'm 49) because they catch all the contagions that would otherwise enter my system. Haven't had Strep since Covid/not working with the public.
scent is the sense that has the strongest ties to memory that's real, I'm a writer and I use candles to get into the zone
%100 on the smells. I love having olfactory memories
Ryan and Shane completely ignoring Steven for like a few minutes while they talk about their own thing. And Ryan trying to make Shane vomit, are completely oldest, middle, youngest vibes 😂. Everything makes so much more sense now.
28:06 Shane's face when Steven brings up his wife is perfection
Quite the eye catching title this video has, i told my roommate about this video as soon as i got the chance, I was drawn in Instantly!
I'm gonna need Steven Lim to sing like Pippin while Shane obliterates a Cherry Tomato(Grape) from Lazy Acres and reenact Denethor. Then just dress Ryan with a white beard!
That beautiful song haunts me almost as much as the hideous way that man devoured that tomato 😭
It's fun listening to people talk about Aphantasia as someone with very severe Aphantasia, personally i like to explain it as when being asked to picture something like an apple, i know what it looks like of course, but the image file is corrupted and i cant open it. Also not a lot of people know but it also effects dreaming, I often don't dream at all but when I do it's the equivalent of being blind since my brain can't make the visual information, so I'm often very aware of the fact that I'm dreaming, so usually I'll just let it play it's course but if I don't like the dream I can just force it to end. Aphantasia definitely has more downsides than ups, but one benefit is if I ever experience something that gives me PTSD, I don't have to worry about triggering myself by visualizing the event.
We learned in my neuroanatomy class that smell actually is highly linked to memory, as the path to the olfactory bulb passes through the limbic system (which has the hippocampus responsible for encoding memory, and the amygdala responsible for emotive states). Really cool neuroscience hack with the soap!
Once I bought a pack of tuna to eat in my car at lunch, and when I opened it the smell was so awful I went back inside work crying and gagging, and they had to give me different clothes to wear and sent a maintenance person out to sanitize my car. I couldn't eat tuna for years. Yesterday I was shopping and picked up some cat food, and one of them was open and rotting and the smell got on my hands. Not going to lie, it was definitely a little bit of a flashback.
my favourite thing about this podcast is when they say "lets have a word from our sponsors" and then there is in fact no word from a sponsor.
This is hysterical and my daughter just had her tonsils and adenoids taken out and her voice did change but she sleeps so much better and doesn't struggle to breathe through her nose when she sleeps.
this title changed the path of my entire life thank you
Learning about how Steven communicates I’m realizing he sounds like Tobias Fünke from Arrested Development.
I could just listen to Shane talk about groceries and soap all day. A solo podcast about soap and groceries LOL
this podcast is everything I’ve ever needed
I'm so invested in this Lazy Acres narrative. I will be seated every week just for this. lol
And Shane's Kryptonite is discovered. Also, I'm a 5 on that visualization scale. If I try to picture an apple, I get nothing and my inner voice tries to make up for it by describing an apple for me with words.
Mucus buildup in the nose is there to trap all the bacteria, viruses, pollen, dust, and other junk that enter through your nose. If you stop it, you'll get all the crap in your lungs and that will not be a fun experience. Also Ryan feeling shifting nasal congestion means you have sensitive nasal turbinates. Turbinates are like the air filters of your nose and blood that feeds the turbinates tends to enlarge the turbinates, making you congested on one side or the other. This is more prevalent when you're sleeping of course because you are on your side where gravity pools blood to the turbinate side you're lying on. Some people can feel this shifting congestion which is very annoying cause I have it too and yeah its annoying.
“Stenographer follows Steven for a week and then reads back the highlights” is a video I would watch
I’m an AP bio student who’s learning about the immune system rn. Mucus is a barrier defense that traps pathogens (or disease causing microorganisms like viruses or bacteria). When we secrete lots of mucus while we are sick, we are getting rid of a bunch of pathogens that are stuck in there. So yes mucus is annoying but it actually does rlly help in keeping the body safe from harm
Shane's abhorrence of boogers....by far the best bit ever
When I visualize something, it's picture perfect and moving etc., but I can't grasp on to it. Like if I wanted to draw it, no. Kinda like looking at glow-in-the-dark stars; if you look straight at it, it fades a bit. My husband and daughter are super creative with art and writing, and they say that they don't have that issue. Sounds nice. But I'm glad I can visualize.
I think Furbies walked so Minions could run. Also this is one of my favorite Watcher shows
Steven talking about his aphantasia reminded me a lot of Bob Muyskens (muyskerm) talking about his own aphantasia on Distractible, especially since Wade and Markiplier are also very good at visualizing and they go indepth about the differences a lot, like Bob almost never dreaming. If I had a nickel for every time a podcast trio of UA-camrs I watch talked about one of them having aphantasia I'd have 2 nickels etc
Shane I do the same thing with perfume on vacation. I love getting a unique perfume, wearing it on vacation and then years later coming back to that scent floods all those memories back to me.
When I visualize an apple it's like that scene from the Twilight movies when Bella looks through her vampire eyes for the first time. Like it's a beautiful little apple. Also red. A deep red. I can "zoom" in on it. For some reason it's on a light wood table, shiny skin with some sun and a water drop on the apple as if it's just been rinsed. It has a larger top and a skinny bottom, kind of balloon or upside down pear shaped. No leaf. Great thought experiment, Steven.
i enjoy this podcast so much. It's such a simple yet interesting format. I love that you each choose one very mundane topic and talk about it. Keeps my monkey brain intriguingly entertained, keep it up 👍
Hi 👋, I work for an ENT surgeon. Ryan you likely don’t have large adenoids as those typically go away once you reach adulthood. However, you might have a deviated septum. It also sounds like you have inferior turbinate hypertrophy (since your congestion is worse lying down/switches sides). If you had chronic ear infections as a child you may also have sinus issues as an adult. You can definitely correct those with surgery (it’s honestly life changing). It shouldn’t really affect your voice in the longterm. Lots of people also have nasal valve stenosis. That repair is a game changer. Not all ENTs recognize the importance of that surgery so it’s really important who you go to. I have no clue about CA geography but my doc trained at Stanford and the program there is really good. Honestly, it sounds like you all could use a consult lol! Also, mouth tape does work but if you physically can’t breathe out of your nose it’s not gonna solve your problem (it helps to retrain you after surgery tho). If you want to see how good you could breathe after surgery use a breathe right strip and afrin before going to sleep. DON’T use afrin for more than 3 nights tho, you can become chemically addicted because it will cause rebound swelling with prolonged use. Hope this helps you all breathe better!!!
Also if this sounds like you and you’re in the NOVA or southern MD area might I recommend Dr. Ravi Swamy. He’s GREAT and actually a cool/nice person (just check his google reviews lol)
I did training to be a volunteer literacy tutor. We were taught that there are people who can’t visualize things, but instead hear them, taste them, feel them, or smell them. We all usually do a bit of each, but have a default dominant sense. Our group had a few people who could not picture something in their mind’s eye. The point of this part of the training is to learn to adapt your teaching style to that which makes it easier for a student to learn to read.
I got my tonsils out at 20 because I kept getting strep throat and the recovery was rough. Everyone told me that I could eat ice cream afterwards and that was a load of bull. Took me 2 weeks to fully recover
THIS! Got mine out in my mid twenties, the sugar burns. Now I snort sometimes when I laugh and drinks come out of my nose easier, but I rarely get sick anymore. Totally worth it!
I do the exact same thing Shane does with the smelling! Bath and Body Works pomegranate will always smell like France to me
I’m a total 5 on the apple scale. I used to be in a support group for it but it seemed like most people in it were really miserable and terrible support. I figured out I had aphantasia when I was still really little and everyone else in the group seemed to have just figured it out and were really irrationally angry about it.
(I’m appreciative of mine - I’ve been through some traumatic events and I’m glad I’ll never have to visually relive them.)
i’m with shane at a 1 with the apple i can see that baby in detail spinning in 3D
Shane going pale as a ghost while trying not to hurl is all the ghost evidence we needed
I’d love to hear you guys talk about your holiday traditions or favorite holiday memories!
I have aphantasia too! I can see flashes of detail but I can't keep it for more than a second or two. I also start to be unable to picture loved ones faces after not seeing them for a bit. The longer I've known them, the longer it takes, but max like a month
Also I got my tonsils taken out when I was like 21 and it was the WORST. Remember the last time you really burned your tongue? Imagine that but x10 and the entire back of your throat lol bc they laser them now
Tonsils and mucus are the linebackers against germs. I don’t regret it, but after I got my tonsils out, colds/flus pretty directly cause bronchitis. Also wonder if they all have sleep apnea due to their deviated septums.