I finally understand what a shotgun microphone is, and why It is a good idea to get a good interface and use this mic in my studio until I can install a lot of diy acoustic treatment. I really need to fix the echo and improve the sound quality of my youtube videos. Professional audio is now my goal!
Thick sheets of rock wool insulation work ok. Owens corning 706 is good too, but almost impossible to find. Either way you need to cover them in fabric and it helps to build a frame. A room like this is a lot of space up cover, though.
I like this review--I am always in an untreated space. I like hearing how the mic sounds in a real room -- instead of building a room for a microphone. Cheers.
You're going to want the instructor to be wearing the microphone, with it connected to either a body pack recorder or to a wireless system. A lav mic would work but fitness instructors tend to wear headsets, I think to stop them from falling off and because a headset won't rub against clothing. I would start by looking at the Zoom F2 and DJI mic 2. Both can record locally, and can connect to a 3.5mm headset if the instructor is moving around too much for the included microphone. If you don't want to put in the investment for a recorder yet, you can also try recording directly to a phone. The instructor can hold and talk into it, or connect a wired or wireless headset. You can try it cheaply and it will sound better than a microphone located at your camera, but it comes with a lot of drawbacks. If you have the budget, I recommend a dedicated recorder.
It depends on what you want to record, and where. The Alctron T05 is pretty flexible and can do a lot of stuff with it's different capsules. But it won't have the same reach to record from far away as a shotgun microphone. If you're recording video in a wide shot outdoors, for example, a shotgun mic will probably be better. But if you're doing something like recording dialogue indoors or sitting in front of a computer, it would be fine. The Alctron T05 is basically a SDC pencil mic, even though it's big compared to other pencil mics.
EMI noise is not an issue with the BFG sE V7, because that chrome coating on the body is conductive. It's actually one of my best shielded dynamic mics. That's why I'm sure the paint was causing the problem. I expect the standard non-BFG chrome V7 will also be good. The downside is that both these microphones usually cost a lot more than a painted V7. Chrome will also reflect badly on camera, especially when using a green screen. The noise in the painted V7 isn't terrible up close and should be easy to filter out. It might not be very noticeable when you're using the microphone properly. But the EMI became significant when I was trying to amplify the signal from recording 1ft+ away. How much noise is picked up also depends on recording location; I feel that this room is particularly bad with 60Hz EMI because it pretty much sits between my circuit breaker and a fridge. So, I need the shielding to be as close to perfect as possible. I haven't heard a lot of people complain about sE V7 EMI noise. My painted V7might be a fluke or maybe some recent manufacturing issue. I think the noise issue was coming from two main places on my sE V7: A screw near the bottom of the V7, which is supposed to connect the body of the microphone to the shield contact in the XLR connector is painted. The threaded hole it screws into is also painted. This prevents good electrical connection, which is a flaw in the faraday cage, so the microphone is more sensitive to EMI than it should be. Also, the inside of the body around the XLR connector (where the body would contact the XLR cable directly and bypass that screw) is also over-painted. I expect that that an older broken-in microphone will be scratched up with missing paint here, which would make it sound better than my brand-new mic. I don't remember if the painted grill had good metal-to-metal contact with the body of the microphone. But I remember both versions of the V7 picked up way too much EMI to be usable with the grills removed (most mics are like that). The 'fancy' new XLR cable I was using also had a painted connector which made the problem worse. A cheap cable with a bare metal connector actually sounded better due to lower EMI. I scraped the paint off of all of these places and the EMI noise got a lot better. It was a hassle to scrape the paint off though. It held up well to sandpaper and the solvents I tried, which I suppose means it's pretty durable. Brake cleaner probably would have done the job fast, but I didn't try it. If you're worried, you might just want to try getting a used one that's been used regularly for a couple years. Either way, I hope you find something that works well, cheers!
@@SparkY0 Priceless information. Thank you so much for typing that all up! I received my V7 MK last night, so I've been testing it a bit. Unfortunately the EMI noise is really apparent even when I set the mic next to my keyboard. I found there wasn't a significant improvement in EMI noise with and without the headbasket attached, which would imply the entire body is a floating ground instead of being grounded to Pin 1. Your observation on the screw might be it. If true, then a careful drop of acetone might be all it takes to fix that issue! I sit between a 300 watt keylight and a few quasars, so unfortunately I'm very quick to notice EMI noise in my microphones. Thankfully, a simple EMC connector from Neutrik is all you really ever need to deal with this kind of noise. Might take me a while, but I'll try and give an update on that XLR screw theory.
I wouldn't just say the real at875r has more high end, it's also smoother and easier to listen to. I've taken them both apart and the capsule and circuitry in the real one is definitely higher quality.
This is the first time I have ever heard someone sound bad using a cheap lav mic. I actually own a cheap one and outside of the occasional wind noise I haven't heard any sound bad. Hell i have heard the bm800 or nw 800 sound worse and the blue yeti(that's from personal experience)
I didn't think I sounded terrible with it. But it definitely isn't great compared to most other microphones when they're at a good distance. It could be the mic that comes with this body pack. It's the only one I've ever had that came with a plastic mic clip, even $2 lav mics come with a metal clip. I have some ~$15 aliexpress lavs that sound noticeably better. So the microphone itself is probably really cheap. The cost is for the recorder. The recorder is worth it imo. I've run into way too many problems cheaping out and trying to record cheap lavs directly to a phone, for example. The lav cleans up well enough with EQ, fwiw. I also could probably find a better way to wear it. Not sure what you're saying about the bm 800 though. Are you saying lavs usually sound better than it?
@@SparkY0 yes every person I have heard use the Bm800 sounded terrible there are people trying to build a home studio and whenever they pick up that mic I tell them to replace it asap with another microphone from the 25 dollars to a 100 dollars budget especially if they're inexperienced because a person who knows what they're doing can make a bad mic sound decent an inexperienced person makes it sound worse. I have heard videos where 10 dollars lav mic sounded better than that microphone. I think the reason yours sounded bad is because of where you bought it from
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I finally understand what a shotgun microphone is, and why It is a good idea to get a good interface and use this mic in my studio until I can install a lot of diy acoustic treatment. I really need to fix the echo and improve the sound quality of my youtube videos. Professional audio is now my goal!
Dont forget a wireless lav is easier to get running for your youtube live streams!
My problem is that people say the acoustic foam isn't good to treat your space but then don't say what you should use to treat your room
Thick sheets of rock wool insulation work ok. Owens corning 706 is good too, but almost impossible to find. Either way you need to cover them in fabric and it helps to build a frame. A room like this is a lot of space up cover, though.
I like this review--I am always in an untreated space. I like hearing how the mic sounds in a real room -- instead of building a room for a microphone. Cheers.
This is honestly a problem I want to have
Which microphone do you suggest for Dan instruction, UA-cam video and a empty dance studio?
You're going to want the instructor to be wearing the microphone, with it connected to either a body pack recorder or to a wireless system.
A lav mic would work but fitness instructors tend to wear headsets, I think to stop them from falling off and because a headset won't rub against clothing.
I would start by looking at the Zoom F2 and DJI mic 2. Both can record locally, and can connect to a 3.5mm headset if the instructor is moving around too much for the included microphone.
If you don't want to put in the investment for a recorder yet, you can also try recording directly to a phone. The instructor can hold and talk into it, or connect a wired or wireless headset. You can try it cheaply and it will sound better than a microphone located at your camera, but it comes with a lot of drawbacks. If you have the budget, I recommend a dedicated recorder.
would you use the alctron t05 for shotgun mic?
It depends on what you want to record, and where. The Alctron T05 is pretty flexible and can do a lot of stuff with it's different capsules. But it won't have the same reach to record from far away as a shotgun microphone.
If you're recording video in a wide shot outdoors, for example, a shotgun mic will probably be better. But if you're doing something like recording dialogue indoors or sitting in front of a computer, it would be fine.
The Alctron T05 is basically a SDC pencil mic, even though it's big compared to other pencil mics.
Ordered myself an sE V7 MK edition and now I’m worried about the EMI noise. Was the BFG V7 picking up as much noise as the regular V7?
EMI noise is not an issue with the BFG sE V7, because that chrome coating on the body is conductive. It's actually one of my best shielded dynamic mics.
That's why I'm sure the paint was causing the problem. I expect the standard non-BFG chrome V7 will also be good. The downside is that both these microphones usually cost a lot more than a painted V7. Chrome will also reflect badly on camera, especially when using a green screen.
The noise in the painted V7 isn't terrible up close and should be easy to filter out. It might not be very noticeable when you're using the microphone properly. But the EMI became significant when I was trying to amplify the signal from recording 1ft+ away. How much noise is picked up also depends on recording location; I feel that this room is particularly bad with 60Hz EMI because it pretty much sits between my circuit breaker and a fridge. So, I need the shielding to be as close to perfect as possible.
I haven't heard a lot of people complain about sE V7 EMI noise. My painted V7might be a fluke or maybe some recent manufacturing issue.
I think the noise issue was coming from two main places on my sE V7:
A screw near the bottom of the V7, which is supposed to connect the body of the microphone to the shield contact in the XLR connector is painted. The threaded hole it screws into is also painted. This prevents good electrical connection, which is a flaw in the faraday cage, so the microphone is more sensitive to EMI than it should be.
Also, the inside of the body around the XLR connector (where the body would contact the XLR cable directly and bypass that screw) is also over-painted. I expect that that an older broken-in microphone will be scratched up with missing paint here, which would make it sound better than my brand-new mic.
I don't remember if the painted grill had good metal-to-metal contact with the body of the microphone. But I remember both versions of the V7 picked up way too much EMI to be usable with the grills removed (most mics are like that).
The 'fancy' new XLR cable I was using also had a painted connector which made the problem worse. A cheap cable with a bare metal connector actually sounded better due to lower EMI. I scraped the paint off of all of these places and the EMI noise got a lot better.
It was a hassle to scrape the paint off though. It held up well to sandpaper and the solvents I tried, which I suppose means it's pretty durable. Brake cleaner probably would have done the job fast, but I didn't try it.
If you're worried, you might just want to try getting a used one that's been used regularly for a couple years. Either way, I hope you find something that works well, cheers!
@@SparkY0 Priceless information. Thank you so much for typing that all up! I received my V7 MK last night, so I've been testing it a bit. Unfortunately the EMI noise is really apparent even when I set the mic next to my keyboard.
I found there wasn't a significant improvement in EMI noise with and without the headbasket attached, which would imply the entire body is a floating ground instead of being grounded to Pin 1. Your observation on the screw might be it. If true, then a careful drop of acetone might be all it takes to fix that issue!
I sit between a 300 watt keylight and a few quasars, so unfortunately I'm very quick to notice EMI noise in my microphones. Thankfully, a simple EMC connector from Neutrik is all you really ever need to deal with this kind of noise. Might take me a while, but I'll try and give an update on that XLR screw theory.
Hey there, dos you think fake at875r sounds similar ou close to the original?
Answer at 24:44 thnks,
10:38 fake
20:52 real
putting them side by side, you can see there's a lot more high end at the original one's curve
I wouldn't just say the real at875r has more high end, it's also smoother and easier to listen to.
I've taken them both apart and the capsule and circuitry in the real one is definitely higher quality.
ok, can you make a specific video about this two mics? I agree for your answer @@SparkY0
This is the first time I have ever heard someone sound bad using a cheap lav mic. I actually own a cheap one and outside of the occasional wind noise I haven't heard any sound bad. Hell i have heard the bm800 or nw 800 sound worse and the blue yeti(that's from personal experience)
I didn't think I sounded terrible with it. But it definitely isn't great compared to most other microphones when they're at a good distance.
It could be the mic that comes with this body pack. It's the only one I've ever had that came with a plastic mic clip, even $2 lav mics come with a metal clip.
I have some ~$15 aliexpress lavs that sound noticeably better.
So the microphone itself is probably really cheap. The cost is for the recorder. The recorder is worth it imo. I've run into way too many problems cheaping out and trying to record cheap lavs directly to a phone, for example.
The lav cleans up well enough with EQ, fwiw. I also could probably find a better way to wear it.
Not sure what you're saying about the bm 800 though. Are you saying lavs usually sound better than it?
@@SparkY0 yes every person I have heard use the Bm800 sounded terrible there are people trying to build a home studio and whenever they pick up that mic I tell them to replace it asap with another microphone from the 25 dollars to a 100 dollars budget especially if they're inexperienced because a person who knows what they're doing can make a bad mic sound decent an inexperienced person makes it sound worse. I have heard videos where 10 dollars lav mic sounded better than that microphone. I think the reason yours sounded bad is because of where you bought it from