Snapping The Flyers at Knoebel's (60fps)
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2015
- This video, shot by Skyler Hardy (Wingless92) shows myself and Steve Sergent snapping on the Flyers at Knoebel's park in Elysburg, PA during a coaster trip in July 2015.
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I have had that happen a few times actually. Most of the time ride operators are cool about snapping. I usually won't ride unless I know snapping is allowed.
@@SeanFlaharty The official rule is that snapping is not allowed. There's a few cool operators that will let you do it however.
@@disownedpear I may be riding this next week. First time since the day this video was recorded years ago.
@@SeanFlaharty Awesome! I'm going at the beginning of August. Last time I went we had an operator that let us snap like crazy, apparently it caused some damage to the cars and got the operator in trouble. Felt pretty bad. Curious to how your trip goes!
@@SeanFlaharty Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is "snapping"? How is it done? I've never been on a ride quite like this so I'm not really getting it.
This is freaking amazing
Legendary
Ha ha! Many thanks, Robert!
This is by far my favorite ride at Knoebels. If you know how to manipulate the sails, you can almost touch the surrounding trees in your ride vehicle without snapping.
I touched the tree today!!
when i was really little, i told my friend that i had touched the tree on this ride, and my friend responded by saying that they had touched flying turns.
Wow Sean, you were almost touching the ground and getting incredible height as well. I tried to do that once but I could not get the timing down. Plus I thought I was going to fall out so I played it safe.
A great video. Did you ride the Flying Turns? If so, how was it?
Rob/Boston
Paneeks1960 Thanks man. Flying Turns was fun to ride. It's not a major thrill seeker the way I see it, but it doesn't need to be. It was more fun than I thought it was going to be. Very smooth, quite and provides a very unique feeling.
Paneeks1960 {Rob/Boston} I rode the flying turns it’s great
I did this a while back when I was at Conneaut Lake and the op screamed at me. Definitely got some good snapp'age there :D
Do you know if the Conneaut Lake on is as fast as this one?
Do you know if the Conneaut Lake on is as fast as this one?
Do you know if the Conneaut Lake on is as fast as this one?
Do you know if the Conneaut Lake on is as fast as this one?
@@disownedpear guess he doesnt know
One of my favorite rides of all time. I ride the Woodstock Flyers at Carowinds in Charlotte, NC. The gondolas are numbered and they have a contest to see who can snap the highest. I have won it pretty much everytime. Great old school ride that a lot of people mistake for a kiddy ride. Their loss! :-D
Woodstock Flyers at Carowinds holds a very special place in my life as it's the exact ride that I learned to snap on while it was at Kings Island. I rode it on the final day at KI (shameless plug for a video on my channel showing that day) and I went to Carowinds the first day it opened, kind of passing the torch to its new owners.
I rode a carnival version last night at a local county fair. The speed was too slow for snapping, what a disappointment that was!
Skyler Hardy, love it when I find someone else with our AWESOME last name.
I love at how at the end all the kids are trying to do it too xD
I was the KING of the flyer , they had my picture on the ride with a sign , "do not let ride " hitting branches what never got hit!
Hey sean can I use this footage in the next FROTW? I will be sure to give you credit as always!
Yep. Thanks for asking.
Fricking love a bit of cable twanging! Got to get back to Knoebels at some point. We were there in 2004 with the RCCGB, so imaging 8 people on there who all know how to twang the cables. How we didn't collapse the whole thing I don't know 😂😂😂😂
few of the parks i been to had these but i never though much of them and would always pass them up. but looking at this looks awesome! Making it go out of control like that looks awesome.
I never was a big fan of the ride until the late 90's when some friends showed me how to snap on them. Ever since then it's become a must ride, providing the park allows riders to snap.
What exactly is snapping and how do you do it? I've heard people talk about it but I've never really understood what it is. Nonetheless, that is the highest I've seen anyone go on this ride! Impressive!
+Jared Andell Thanks. Snapping takes place when you can get the flyer itself in a "groove" of going up high and then stalling once you get to the bottom. When that happens the cables above you snap as the flyer is trying to catch up to speed with the rest of the ride. Once you lean how to do it, it is addictive for most.
+Sean Flaharty I was able to return to the park yesterday and was able to snap this ride the whole time. I can see the draw to it!
That's good to hear!
The first time I did it, I thought the ride had broken and I was going to fall, lol.
Elite level unlocked.
my family does this on the ride all at once (my two cousins, me, my dad, and uncle). Some people show off on the ride and as soon as we get on they look like amateurs. A lot of people just swing the sail back and forth, but if you do it aerodynamic it goes hella nuts. My one cousin got it so the front cord was so loose she was vertical, I got it bounce all the way down and keep bouncing all the way until it almost hits the man running it, and all of us snap so hard sometimes everyone turns to look at it. lmao.
Cool! I have only "wrapped" one cable, one time. I was at the now-closed Whalom Park and was snapping so hard the cable wrapped around the top arm and I was stuck almost vertically. One of my friends took a picture of it with me in it. I need to find that picture. Lol.
@@SeanFlaharty Please find it! That would be absolutely hilarious to see.
How do you snap the Larson scooters, like what's the technique to do it?
You have to think kind of backwards to do it. The tubs react quicker than the older version so at the moment you start to head up into an arc, start pointing the fin back to head down. It takes a few tries but it can be done. It should be noted that very few parks that have Larson models allow snapping as Larson themselves mention no snapping in their manuals, or at least they did when they first started making their models.
Hey Sean, may I borrow a short clip from this for one of my videos? I'll be sure to give credit and a link back to it.
Yes. Thank you for asking.
@@SeanFlaharty Thank you so much Sean! I really appreciate it. I'll send a link to you later as well. It's about 10 seconds worth in a 15 minute video. :-)
Thanks again. You can see the video about our 2001 PPP trip at ua-cam.com/video/nZUk23C4KU0/v-deo.html
You guys are nuts, haha.
As of yesterday, I finally learned how to snap cables. I did it on the carowinds scooters tho 😅
I heard the park has cracked down on snapping and it's a hard no now.
I have experienced that in the past. I was there a few weeks ago and the operator was very cool in letting us snap as much as we wanted. I recorded a POV from a GoPro chest mount, which will be released in a vlog in September. It was a super fun day!
@@SeanFlaharty Was this vlog ever released? I can't seem to find it!
@@triple7marc Massivlog 30 at about 1:29:00
silverwood is like the only theme park in the USA to not have these ;.;
There are quite a few that I have visited that don't have a version of this ride. While companies like Larson can make "updated" versions of this ride, nothing can replace the feeling of one of the originals.
How do you know if the ops are ok with you snapping? Do you ask them before riding or watch a few cycles?
When I asked the park over email I was told snapping was strictly prohibited.
I think it all depends on the ride operator. I rode and recorded POV of myself on the ride a few weeks ago and the ride operator was more than happy to allow snapping.
They say that because of insurance reasons. What they actually will allow depends on the day.
It’s been a few years since I rode one of these. How do you snap?
It's kind of difficult to explain but essentially you move the rudder to start going up. As soon as you start to head up, switch it to head down. The more you do that the easier it will be to feel the "groove", knowing you are on the correct path. I visited Knoebels in July and recorded a POV while on the ride. It's in MASSIVLOG 30. I don't know if that will help you or not but it's more of a thing you have to feel. Now I sound like a surfer. Ha ha.
@@SeanFlaharty thanks! Radical, dude! 🏄♂️ 😂
Oh snap!
27Yankfan Oh yes!
+Sean Flaharty those snaps were awesome. KI's flyer gives harder snaps, but the snaps are not consistent like these, nor is the cycle long enough.
Thanks man! The reason KI's has harder snaps is that the Larson tubs are heavier. The heaviest tubs I have ridden in were at Americana. They were fiberglass but heavy and snapping was super loud! I snapped so violently once that a large blob of grease from the top of the arm above me landed on my head. Ha ha.
+Sean Flaharty that must have been terrifyingly fun. It's interesting to note both Bisch-Rocco and Larsons scooters emit sounds during snapping.
+27Yankfan There are a couple of other versions of the scooters that I have ridden that make the similar sounds as well. It must be a near universal thing.
Is that allowed at SixFlags America? (Snapping?)
I am not sure. Very few parks allow it.
Does anyone know if u can snap the Hershey frontier flyers?
It can physically be done but I believe the park shuns away from allowing it.
I did this at the one at Cga and the op actually stopped the ride by accident when I went on it so I was able to do it twice. The man. Didn’t care that I was doing it even though the cars and the op said not to. He said he didn’t stop me because everyone does it.
what is the maker of this ride?
Bisch-Rocco
I don't think this is really my way to ride this. I like going up and down but in a controlled way, so how can I do that?
It's a bit difficult to explain. You have to feel the "wave" or "groove." As you are starting to head up, turn the fin the other direction. When you are high, turn the fin the other direction and head back down immediately. If you keep doing this over and over you will get higher and higher and eventually snap on the down groove. I also like to throw my body weight around to get more sudden turns, which helps. You can see me doing this at 1:17 in this video.
@@SeanFlaharty I don't mean the snapping. I mean a much more controlled movement.
I don't really like to go crazy because I'd get scared if I felt something was going to go wrong. I'd rather be gentle.
@@ZeldaACFan17 I understand. It can be scary at times. I would just take it easy. Do only what you feel is fun and you should have a great time.
@@SeanFlaharty How can I be more gentle on this ride? I like it for what it is but some things are just too much, like snapping.
He is skilled!
Many thanks! :)
Great ride. I got an earfull for the first time ever last summer at Knoebels for riding too aggresive. After 30+ years of riding this ride, it was disappointing to get yelled out. I had to wait over an hour until they switch operators to give it another go. He was much more easy going, and it was a snappy ride! Best flying scooters anywhere.
The same happened to me on the day this video was taken. You may notice that the ride operator slowed the ride down in the middle of the cycle. After my ride ended I was "coached" on not doing that. Later I went back and noticed people snapping. There was a different ride operator. I took a ride and once again was scolded for snapping. The third time I went back I noticed snapping and the operators allowed it fully. The mystery will continue...
Seems as long as you get a good ride operator you should be good to go, if you get a bad one just wait a few hours for a rotation.
Seems as long as you get a good ride operator you should be good to go, if you get a bad one just wait a few hours for a rotation.
Seems as long as you get a good ride operator you should be good to go, if you get a bad one just wait a few hours for a rotation.
Seems as long as you get a good ride operator you should be good to go, if you get a bad one just wait a few hours for a rotation.
How do you do it
It's kind of difficult to explain. You have to move the rudder into the wind then back the other way until you gain momentum. Once you have that, it's just a matter of timing. It sounds weird to say this but once you have it, you will feel the groove and keep riding that way to bring up more momentum. I also throw my body the entire opposite direction when at the highest point to help me make a more sudden transition when diving down.
carowinds has the same.ride but the front dail has a stopper
Indeed it does. I gave it a ride when Copperhead Strike opened and wasn't able to do much with the sails because of the stopper.
Everyone that hears this always thinks you break them it's kind of annoying
Yes this is true. I was yelled at by a park guest for "hitting the ground" with my tub, which we all know is not what is happening.
@@SeanFlaharty These must be the same people who were worried I would go over the bar when I would swing high enough on the playground swings that I would get some slack in the chains. 🤣
At lake compounce they encourage snapping, but I've heard that sometimes they don't let you snap here.
Knoebels is weird. Sometimes they don't care, or at least they don't act like they care, and sometimes they are extremely strict about it.
+Sean Flaharty do you know of any other places that always allow snapping?
Not right off the hand. Sorry. Carowinds used to allow it but I have heard there is a company wide bad on snapping now.
It's not company-wide actually. A few weeks ago I went to both Kings Dominion and Carowinds. At KD they didn't care, and it was encouraged at Carowinds! The only time people were strict about snapping was Kong at Morey's Piers. It's actually the only Larson flyer I could get good snapping on, and even then I could only snap that one when there's a strong breeze.
Very strange. I have always been told to stop snapping at KD and encouraged at Carowinds. I have heard reports of Carowinds stopping it this year from friends that went a couple months ago.
Yeah me and my family do that a lot and the ride operator slowed down the ride because we went too high and cut so much slack
Yes, this happens, depending on the ride operator. Some ride operators let it go full speed for the entire ride cycle. Its really hit or miss.
SkonkyDonkey I snapped the larson flyers at funspot Kissimmee earlier today and the ride op kinda panicked and stopped the ride cycle short. Kinda sucks that it’s hard to find a park where you can do it freely