Postage Stamp Forgeries and Fakes - RMPL
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2018
- An in depth look at postage stamp forgeries and fakes and the difference between the many types of bogus postage stamps in existence. Presented by Harry Pedersen - President of the Arapahoe Stamp Club in Denver Colorado.
Kindly have more informative videos like this. It really is useful for us, especially the younger collectors. We need to keep this hobby alive for newer generation(s).
Very interesting and thanks for publishing this on UA-cam!
Thank you from Greece for this great presentation!
Great presentation!
A remarkable presentation of a subject the vast number of Americans have zero knowledge of. Factual and interesting. Should be shown in schools as part of World history.
Ebay has increased the number of fakes tremendouslly.
Then of course there's the famous Great Britain "Stock Exchange Forgery", which I suppose falls closer to a counterfeit, as it was the Post Office which ultimately was defrauded...examples of this are generally reckoned to be worth up to twenty times the genuine stamp...the tale behind that little effort would make a fascinating little talk all by itself.
This was an excellent presentation and we're indebted to the poster for the chance to see it here!
Regarding the cancels, I have covers with only Easter Seals or Christmas Seals or other fund raising seals/labels that were used as substitutes for stamps and successfully made their way through the post office canceled, delivered and all. If they can make it through then there is no reason a fake stamp can't. Also, my grandfather was a post master in Massachusetts for over 30 years. He was also the president of his local stamp club and one thing he liked to do was design fancy cancels. He would hold meetings during business hours then apply the cancels by hand to covers for various commemorative purposes in a way that was very artistic. Here's the thing, such canceling stamps are supposed to be sent back to the main branch or are supposed to be destroyed by the post master. Every single one he designed, he kept afterwards. There were over a hundred. I inherited his entire stamp collection, all his canceling rubber stamps, the original artwork for each and all the covers he made with those fancy cancels. Generally he limited the time frame or purpose. For example he made a different Christmas cancel each year and the instruction for his clerk was to only use it for Christmas cards and only from Dec. 1 through Dec. 24 then turn it in to him. He made them for Valentines day only for use Feb. 1-14 and one for Thanksgiving for all of November excluding after Thanksgiving and a Halloween one for any time in October. My favorite ones were his Independence Day cancels as they would include things like the Statue of Liberty or an eagle or the American flag or stars and so on. Always different and always a patriotic theme. Those were only for use July 1-4. The town had a huge celebration on the 4th of July including parade, festival, concert and fireworks. He would open up the post office (illegally) and cell patriotic covers and post cards using particularly patriotic stamps with his Independence day cancels. He usually only was open for about an hour or so and the post office was in the middle of the town on the parade route so a lot of people came to the post office for those souvenirs. So my point in all of this is that if my grandfather kept his canceling rubber stamps that he designed, what other early-mid 20th century postmasters also kept theirs? When I realized that these could be used to create new covers from old stock possibly for the purpose of making fake collectibles, I defaced every single canceling rubber stamp. I didn't destroy them completely. I took an Exacto knife and carved a slight nick in the rubber in a certain place in each rubber stamp to make it possible to tell a real one from a fake. I am willing the entire collection of canceling stamps to the National Postal Museum so they don't get used by anyone to make fake collectibles after I'm gone. I'm glad they didn't go to my cousin who is serving time for forgery. This is one of the reasons I don't collect things like first day covers because they are so easy to fake. The only ones that I have deliberately bought were ones I sent myself to the post office where the FDC were being canceled. Years ago when I was a kid I bought a bunch of First Day of Issue covers only to find some of them weren't genuine.
A nice general overview.
Very interesting information
Something that I have encountered is people buying an expensive stamp that has a recent expertizing cert then they sell it with a fake stamp and the collector doesn't know the stamp was switched. That seller then sends the genuine stamp to another expertizing service for a new cert. Then they do it again and repeat until they run out of expertizing services then they sell the genuine and move on to another and so on.
The Crete #2 notes that only forgeries have a broken sun - NOT SO - there is one position on the sheet of genuine stamps that this also appears
Thanks ☺️ I appreciate that .I have 6 stamps that's says George Washington how do I know is reel ??
Amazing and informative lecture. Thank you very much for posting. I learned a lot. One thing I learned is that the two pounds of Iran Kiloware that I bought 30 years ago is probably worthless. I'm glad it was only $10 and that I never got around to integrating it into my collection. It is still in the shoe box it came in and after my initial purchase I was so overwhelmed by the sheer volume that I just put it on a shelf and left it there all these years. So I have a question, has any catalog, Scott for example, ever inadvertently posted a photo of a fake thinking it to be genuine not realizing it and later corrected the photo?
Scott tends to be lazy! If you measure prfs to halfs....why not 3//4 s?