How a Jackson 6700 Tamper Lines and Surfaces Track
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2021
- Today I'm gonna show you what happens outside my Jackson 6700 tamper as
I am lining and surfacing track. Will give you a very good explanation of
how the Jackson 3 point light system works on the outside in the video
and also a bit more of what happens with the voltages in the description
below and how the machine knows how to lift and line track.
The lights on the light carriage shine through the small slit in the masks back
to the sensors. When the light shines on the center of the receivers this
is called a balanced condition in the track surface or alignment. If the light beam is
above or below the center receiver photocells this is called an out of balance condition.
In an out of balance condition the electrical signal that is created indicates
in which direction and the magnitude of how far away from a straight line
the mask is. A positive voltage will be created when the light band is below
center of the sensor in proportion to the amount the track is low and
produce a negative voltage when the light is found above center of the sensor.
This signal either positive or negative is shown on my jacking and alignment
meters in the cab so I know where the track surface is before jacking or
lining the track occurs. Then when the jackbeam moves the track to where
the signal becomes zero voltage, that shows on my meters as being in
the center of each meter or as we call it, "in the green".
Hope you watched the first video in this 2 part mini series on the hopper cars rocking really
bad thru a section of track, if not the link is here:
• Coal Cars are Rocking ...
There are several videos where you can be in the cab of my tamper as I am
operating it on a playlist on my channel here:
• Jackson 6700 Tamper
#6700Tamper#LiningTrack#SurfacingTrack#Jackson3PointLightSysytem
Made: October 2021
You would make an excellent teacher. Thanks!
Just about railroadin, I don't know a whole lot bout anything else,
just ask my wife.....LOL Really appreciate your nice comment and
for watching the show today Louis
No has ever explained Railroadin in such great detai. You have answered almost all of my M.O.W. questions. I've also learned a lot about ballast and track alignment. I LOVE your enthusiasm and your videos. Keep em coming !.
Well golly gosh darn it John, what a very nice comment sir! I am
thrilled to hear you are so enjoying these and are finding them
to be of some value to you. And yes sir, will keep them coming,
FYI right now have 29 RR videos posted on You Tube and just
waiting to be made public, lot's good stuff coming your way
this winter and into the spring
Kids could Learn a Lot more Watching this Channel that going out at Recess. 😬🙏
Thanks Ken, really great to hear you are enjoying the home movies,
we do thank you for the nice comment and for watching the show today
As always you do a fantastic job and really care about your job too. That track looks so straight and level! If everyone would really care and do a great job like you do, life would be much better.
Thank you Valerie, really do appreciate your kind comments and
for being such a faithful follower my friend
I remember seeing one of these parked along a siding near my house when I was a kid. I spent the longest time standing there looking at it trying to figure out what the heck it was used for! lol
I can understand that, some of these railroad machines they
have out there even I don't know what all they do. Lucky I have
a friend who works for BNSF maintenance and I send him a pic and
he tells me what that machine does. Do appreciate your watching
the show today and for writing in
What a great piece of machinery. I can see the engineers designing this because you know every aspect of it - all the valves, lines, actuators and photo cells :) Very fascinating!
Well thank you Brian, i'm certainly not an expert, there are many
out there that know a whole lot more about tampers than I do.
Have been lucky over the years to have been around several of
those guys and learn from them. I'm really pleased to hear you
enjoyed watching, it is much appreciated my friend
Noticeable difference Dave in the quality of this video! Better audio and that automatic stablization is doing it's great work!
Glad you enjoyed today's show Sam, we do appreciate your
tuning in and hope you found it of some value. Someday
you will need to know this stuff if you didn't already
Dave, You have certainly given the average person, a LOT more knowledge about how railroading really works. It's just not about rolling up and down the line. I've loved trains since I was 6yo and I'm 65 now and I still learn things about trains and the railroad industry. The Railroad I grew up with was the Rock Island that ran through my home town of Blue Mountain, AR. I even got to ride an engine on the north siding ever once in a while. My Grandmother was the Postmaster there and she knew all the crews that worked the track so I guess I got lucky! Even got to drive a GP-9 up and down the north siding when I was 9, it was great and after that, I was really hooked. You just keep my love for the rail active. You make it interesting and fun. PLEASE keep it up!
Well golly James, what a very nice comment. I'm really pleased to
hear you are enjoying these and they help bring back great
memories, that makes me feel good. Thanks for the history, pretty
interesting to me to hear that. I've been working RR for 40 years and
I still learn new things, it is pretty neat. Appreciate your watching good sir
That was an excellent explanation of how that portion of your tamper functions. As usual I enjoy all of your videos. You really know you’re stuff and they should be grateful to have a worker like yourself.
Thank you Brad for the very nice comment, glad to hear you enjoyed this one. Appreciate your paying us a visit and checking out the video
today my friend.
Thank you for bringing us this very interesting and informative video presentation which is very much appreciated by the people. These machines make such a difference to the railtrack and really keeps the track in such good condition which saves money on repair and replacement as well as wear and tear on the locomotives and rolling stock. It was of great interest to know something of how the machine is able to make everything true by the various measurements that are made for it to regulate the track. Fantastic.
Thank you John for the really nice comment, great to hear you enjoyed watching. Happy I could share this with you guys. We
very much appreciate your watching the show and glad you found
it to be of some value
Thank you. I know next to nothing about anything to do with trains and their operations but I find your videos surprisingly captivating and I thoroughly enjoy them. Good work and thanks for making them.
Your certainly welcome, and I really do appreciate the very
nice comment, it is awesome to me to find out that you really
enjoy these. We cannot thank you enough good sir
Great video Dave, the explanation of how a tamper works never gets old, cause you tell us something new every time, be safe out there.
Thank you very much my friend, great to hear you enjoyed and
found it of some value. And even cooler since you have an
up close and personal relationship with this machine.
Complicated machine. Excellent narration Dave. 🚂🚂🚂
Glad you liked it Tom! Really do appreciate your tuning in to
watch the show today my friend
Very interesting and informative on how that machine works. Can't wait to dive further into the workings......
Thanks Joe, pleased to hear you enjoyed. Got several videos on
this 6700 on a playlist if you would sometime care to check them
out my friend:
ua-cam.com/play/PLTyDYTDnT0248s5BsB1abGpTrwNTDQFmR.html
In some way that is a lot simpler than the Fairmont MK IV tamper I ran. It used shadow boards for surface tamping and lining. It didn't use conventional lights; instead used lasers. We had the laser liner buggy that went out in front of the front carriage. That thing was incredibly precise. A wicked pain to get set up. We rarely used that to line the track. Great video and explanation.
If I'm correct Zach, that Fairmont machine was the fore runner for
the now Mark IV's? I believe it was also the first machine to
incorporate the laser system? Correct me if i'm wrong on that please.
Do appreciate your watching and thanks for the compliment, coming
from an experienced guy like you it really does mean a lot to me.
@@ccrx6700 I think it was as far as Fairmont Tampers go. Jackson and Plasser are animals of their own. Those Plasser tampers are amazing to watch. I think Plasser are light years ahead of American tamper's.
Yet again a great video Dave,you are a true master at explaining how the machines function.Stay safe and healthy mate👍🏴🇬🇧
Golly Tim, thank you so much for the very nice comment. Just
between you and me, there are a lot of other really intelligent
and dedicated guys out there that know more about tampers than
I do. I have been very fortunate to have been around a good many
of them over the years and have learned a tremendous amount
from them. Been with several Harsco guys who were reps to China,
Great Britain and USA, those were great guys who really knew
tampers inside and out and they taught me a lot.
Very interesting information Dave, and a very good explanation! You really have to know the equipment to be able to operate it. Thank you for sharing another great video!
Thank you Raymond, great that you enjoyed the show today, your
faithfulness in watching is appreciated
That was a great video Dave, MOW
equipment is overlooked in the
overall railroading scene!!! As a train
freak and model railroader I've been
collecting MOW equipment in HO
that I saw Conrail run thru here in
the 80s!!! I just picked up a Sperry
Rail Car recently!! Keep up the great
videos Dave!!!!!
That's a pretty cool collection of stuff, that sure would interest
me in seeing it. Good for you. Great that you enjoyed watching,
it is much appreciated
Thank you Dave for another awesome video. I am always interested how machines work. This track machine is very complicated the inside sounds more complicated. The content of your channel has always been top notch. Always learning something different every video. Waiting for the next the next one hope your having a great daym😀❤👍🇨🇦
Thank you very much Ray, it is really special to me that I can
do these and share them with you guys and even more so when
totally kind comments like yours are posted. We are all very
blessed that they allow me to make these. Folks find out what
all it takes to keep trains moving, not something that is very
well documented on You Tube elsewhere. Not only do I really
enjoy making these videos, it is just so awesome to me when
great guys like you write in and express their gratitude for them.
Holy cow, Dave! So much work that goes into railroadin'!!
Yep Pete, the average person doesn't begin to realize what all it takes
to keep a train running. I'm pleased I can share some inside info on
what it takes with everyone. Gives everyone a better appreciation for
track and all the guys that work it across the country. Do thank
you for watching today's home movie my friend
For it's day very complex piece of equipment thanks for your knowledge on how it operates Dave
Your welcome Gary and really glad you enjoyed the show my friend.
Thanks again. I've said before... you are an awesome instructor. What you say, is concise and understandable. Stay safe Sir.
Well thank you very much Russell, your kind comment is inspiring to
me to hear that you guys find these videos of some value. It is
very special to me. Can't thank you enough for watching the show
today good sir
Dave this video has got to be right up there with one of your best, so interesting and loaded with great info. Awesome details even I can understand what you are talking about.
Well gosh golly Russell, thank you so much for your very nice
comment. I do appreciate your writing in and for watching my
friend and really glad you got something out of it. Also do want
to tell you how much I appreciate your faithfulness in watching these!
@@ccrx6700 You are a great teacher Dave
Another great video! I sure hope that you do more videos on this machine, there is so much to learn.
Golly Alan, really glad to hear you enjoyed, I do have several
videos on a playlist on my channel of the tamper and of
being in the cab while running it if you would care to watch sometime
ua-cam.com/play/PLTyDYTDnT0248s5BsB1abGpTrwNTDQFmR.html
Impressive! I knew there was much involved with tampers, but didn't know there was much more, such as what you explained. Cool!
Really great to hear you enjoyed the show today Stephen and found
it to be of some value to you. Tampers are amazing machines.
We do appreciate your watching and for writing in good sir
Very cool Dave! The engineering behind these pieces of equipment is unbelievable, so cool! Thanks for sharing!
Your welcome Eric, great to hear that you enjoyed, we do appreciate
you writing in and tuning in to the show today my friend
@@ccrx6700 Right on Sir! It's always great to wat your content!
Thank you for the video Dave. This stuff os very interesting. I'd love to see a detailed video of the operations inside. Have a great day Dave.
Your welcome Mike, really appreciate your very nice comment and
for watching my friend. Have several videos of me operating this
machine on a playlist on my channel if you would like to sometime
watch them:
ua-cam.com/play/PLTyDYTDnT0248s5BsB1abGpTrwNTDQFmR.html
Talk about awesome, but not surprising coming from this channel. Great Job Dave! I truly enjoy your videos
Golly Juan, what a very nice comment sir. It is very much appreciated.
We do thank you for writing in and for tuning in to the show today
sir
That was great! I definitely want to watch this a few more times because there is so much to learn from just this one video. Great job. I hope you can track this "Dave" fellow but go easy on him. I've got a feeling that he is a great guy! ☺️😊
I'll keep looking for him Jeff, he went AWOL i guess....LOL Really
glad to hear you enjoyed this video, your tuning in and watching
is much appreciated my friend
Enjoyed all the info Dave. This machine does a lot when you get down to it and quiet a bit going on all at one time. Impressive to say the least. Thanks friend and stay safe!
Really glad to hear you enjoyed Rick. It is totally mind boggling what
all goes on inside the machine, far above my pay scale for sure.
There are 3 computers working in conjunction with each other
that control the hydraulics. The logic system in itself and how
it "thinks" is totally amazing. I can never understand how a
card with all these wires and diodes and whatever else are on
them "thinks"
We certainly appreciate your tuning in and watching the show today
my friend
@@ccrx6700 Thanks for the reply Dave, always look forward to your videos.
@@rickcooper6817 really appreciate you Rick
Great video, Smooth, bright and could hear you well! :) Really cool machine!
Thank you very much, great to hear the quality was good, I
really appreciate your saying that, it always makes me wonder how
other folks are viewing these videos
Great video again Dave. Always loaded with easy to understand explanations ! That's railroadin"
Thank you Kurt, really glad you enjoyed, we do appreciate your
tuning in to the show today
Good an interesting educational video. You take pride in what you do. Hope you more videos like this I find this interesting to understanding how your equipment works. Thankyou 👊👍
Thank you John, great that you enjoyed the show today my friend.
I have several other videos on a playlist on my channel of me
operating the machine with more info on how things work in
those if you would sometime care to watch
ua-cam.com/play/PLTyDYTDnT0248s5BsB1abGpTrwNTDQFmR.html
Very good explanation. Sooo much to know! I think you have a Doctorate in Railroading!
Railroadology....LOL Appreciate your watching the show today
Another awesome video, Dave! There's so much stuff I didn't know that I wanted to learn.
Well thank you very much Kristian, really glad that these videos
are of some value to you and that you enjoy viewing them. Your
faithfulness is much appreciated
Nice video Dave, but I’m very partial to Plasser tampers . I get it though using Jackson’s they do the job at a much less cost and are less complicated. With my CAT tamper we used to set up a laser about a half mile down on tangent track. The track looked so good after ,very satisfying . Your videos bring back memories thanks
Awesome David! I've never had fortune to be around Plasser, only saw pics. That Dyna Cat looks incredible. Sure would love spend some time with you on that machine! I totally understand the satisfying feeling. Very good for you 👍
I purchased several 6700 machines from Carl at RELAM many years ago. Good machines.
That's all I;ve ever ran Peter, sure wish I had a Jupiter 2 system
on it tho with a bigger engine and PD heads, but gotta do with
what you got. We just rented a KBR 925 brush cutter from RELAM,
it showed up here 2 days ago, it's a beast. Appreciate your tuning
in to the show today sir
Real interesting. Great one Dave.
Thank you very much Bill, great to hear you enjoyed. Really curious
what kind of tampers and who makes them do you guys use?
A rolling Rube Goldberg! Amazing how accurate it aligns rail. Thank you Dave for sharing the operation of these MOW devices made me understand it Moore!, PS look for a pair of sunglasses or socks on the ground… I bet you will find the missing cap…
And I agree great video. Well done!
Glad to hear you enjoyed the show today Duane, we do so
much appreciate your tuning in and watching sir
Thanks for explaining the machine sir!
Your welcome John, and glad you liked what you saw today. It's
very much appreciated your writing in and tuning in to see it
Great video dave, enjoyed !
Thank you very much Jeff! We do appreciate your nice comment and
for tuning in to the show today my friend
Would love to see a video from the control center of your locomotive showing the operation of driving a train if your allowed to share any of that type of info....thanks for all your videos, have learned so much! 👍✔👍✔👍✔👍
Thanks for your request, i don't very often get to run loco anymore,
will see what i can do, but don't hold your breath for now. Do appreciate your request and for watching today's show sir
Great job, now it makes sense. Thanks!
Really glad to hear you enjoyed watching the show today and
found it of some value. We do appreciate your writing in and
for watching
Very cool video, I remember when we had the old Jackson 6700 with the light when I first started with the CP, I had to crank the light every so often, Then we got the newer versions of that machine then its all laser and such just like the Mark III & IVs are.
Thank you Steve, really appreciate your nice comment and for
tuning in to watch the show today. yep, we used to have to crank
the light outside, 5 turns up every 10 ties, then on the end the opposite, 5 down every 10 ties. Then after they figured out they
didn't have to pay an extra man to do this, they got the switch in
the cab so I control the light from in there. I like it much better
when I control the light position, I like to be in charge....LOL
@@ccrx6700 You are welcome and very nice you get to control it from the inside of that machine.
Thank Dave, great video.
Excellent Derrick, really great to hear you enjoyed the show today
my friend. Do appreciate your writing in and for watching
Thank you Dave, great video!!!
Your welcome Ron, really glad you enjoyed the show, we appreciate
your tuning in to watch
Didn't know that. Thanks for the great explanation.
You are certainly welcome John, we really do appreciate your
writing in and for watching my good man
Your videos are very informational and interesting.
Thank you Rick, really great to hear you are enjoying them,
we do appreciate your writing in and for watching.
I never knew that the tamper used optical sensors like that, very interesting! Seems to be a very precision machine. Great video, thanks Dave!
Have rebuilt many receivers over the years. Wanted desperately to show what the photo cells looked like, but was unable to find my used parts, really upset me I couldn't find them. 😕
@@ccrx6700 If you find them, just show them in a #short . I'd like to see them 😊
Morning Dave !! Yepper !! Very interesting Machine & Thanks for taking the time to explain what it does & how it works !! If we were up there & could get permission to walk the rails ,,would gladly find that cap as can't be too far from the spot where you fueled at !! Have a good week & ""KEEP IT SAFE ""!! 🤠😎👍👍
You have my permission good sir! Great to hear you enjoyed the
show today K B. Do thank you for tuning in and watching
@@ccrx6700 GREAT !! Guess you still haven't found it ?? 🙄🤠😎
Happy Rails Dave, Thank you sir, Be safe..
Your welcome and happy rails to you my friend.
Pretty cool! great explainations!
Really great that you enjoyed Daniel, we do appreciate your tuning
in and watching today's show sir
Awesome tools!!!
That's railroading, gotta have them
Really glad you enjoyed today's show Shane, your comment and
for watching is very much appreciated my friend
Great video, Dave...👍
You must be binge watching Allan, I like it!
Excellent. Thank you for posting
Your welcome William, great to learn you enjoyed watching, we
do appreciate your tuning in to the show today
Your videos are far more interesting than the videos just showing trains going down the track.
Golly Mike, thank you very much for the nice comment, it is
much appreciated. Not too many other vids on tube show the
behind the scenes stuff that goes on to keep those trains running,
it is very special to me that I am allowed to do this and that I can
share it with you guys, it is truly a blessing.
Great video. Now we need to see it in action
Thank you so much for the nice comment, we do appreciate
that and for tuning in to watch the show today. Got several videos
of me operating the tamper on a playlist on my channel if you
would care to watch them sometime:
ua-cam.com/play/PLTyDYTDnT0248s5BsB1abGpTrwNTDQFmR.html
Very interesting. How would you like to do the same thing back in the 30's. That would be rough . But that was railroadin !
Thanks for sharing.
Great to hear you enjoyed Scott. When the automated tampers came
out in the 1940's they put thousands of railroad workers out of work.
Tamping and lining track was very labor intensive back then as you are well aware of. With my
machine I could probably replace what a couple hundred men could do in a day.
Yes I’ve been waiting for this thank you good Sir.
Your certainly welcome, great to hear you enjoyed the show today,
we do appreciate your tuning in and hope you weren't disappointed
Incredibly interesting!
Well thank you very much Matt, am really glad to learn you found
this interesting. Do appreciate your watching the video my good man
I really enjoyed this one Dave. I knew these machines used lasers or in your case lights to measure alignment but never just how it worked we were often around when they were working but did not have time to find much out. I once got to ride on one and found that interesting so a video of the inside of yours will be great. Buy a new fuel cap and you are sure to find the old one right away LOL
Yep, that's absolutely how it will go, as soon as the new cap arrives
the old one will be found....LOL Great to hear you enjoyed the show
today my friend. Have several videos of me being in the cab and
operating this machine on a playlist on my channel if you sometime
would like to watch:
ua-cam.com/play/PLTyDYTDnT0248s5BsB1abGpTrwNTDQFmR.html
@@ccrx6700 Thanks Dave These will be good to watch.
@@cedarcam 👍 your welcome. Write me back sometime and tell me what kind of tampers you guys use and who makes them, I'm interested to know
Great Video!!
Thank you very much, really glad to hear you enjoyed and found
it to be of some value to you. We do appreciate your tuning in and
watching
Fantastic thanks for sharing
Thank you Michael, great to hear you enjoyed, your nice comment
and for watching is very much appreciated
Good video, Roy. I mean Dave!
Thank you Roy,,,,,,, I mean Bill...LOL do appreciate your tuning in and
watching the show today good sir
Great overview and explanation!
The one thing I have been wondering about is how it actually moves the rail, and while you showed the mechanism, I wasn't able to see enough to satisfy me! Lol
So when you have a chance, maybe you could show how it pushes the rail, and also maybe how it grabs the rail to lift it.
Thank you Ben for the very nice comment. I understand what
you want to see. I am the only tamper operator here, so that
means I can't be outside the machine while it is working. however,
we did get a contract tamper in here this summer and was able
to be outside and video him jacking and lining track. That video
probably won't be coming out until next spring however. It will
be Harsco SJ2 tamper title. I've just got so many other videos
to post before we can get to that one, so please be patient.
@@ccrx6700 that will be awesome, and seeing it work will be fun, but what I was thinking of was basically what you did for the front light carriage, pointing out the various parts and how they engage with the track, so like what pushes it sideways and how it lifts it, and how it gets the force to make that movement.
For instance, I assume that it lifts and moves sideways somewhere in the center of the machine, with the force being transferred to the rails by wheels at each end? Or does it engage with the ground to brace itself when it's sliding them sideways or lifting them?
I am a mechanic, so the first time I am seeing a machine, I want to see how it's out together, where the cylinders are and what they push against, basically what makes it tick.
I suspect that a lot of other people like understanding the mechanics of it too, and the rest of your audience will enjoy it just because you are talking lol, so everyone should like the video ;)
Maybe you could stick your camera on a mag mount underneath and just move it back and forth or something, even if you aren't actually moving track, just so we can see the functions.
Anyway, just a video idea for you!
(no, no one has EVER called me pushy! I don't know what you are talking about, this is UA-cam not Sparta! Smirk)
Great video Dave. I always enjoy when you show us how things work. Any idea on when the solenoid will be in so you can show us it working. Have a great day. Lewis
Thank you very much Lewis, really appreciate your kind words
and concern. All is fixed now. I do have several videos on a
playlist on my channel of me operating this machine if you
would sometime like to watch:
ua-cam.com/play/PLTyDYTDnT0248s5BsB1abGpTrwNTDQFmR.html
Pretty similar to our old jackson 6000 and 6500 but the electric vibe motors on those were junk for the ground out here. Burn one out and it was $1800 to rebuild it. Had mountain states come out twice with their tampers with the Jupiter 2 system, those were beasts!
Sure wish I had a Jupiter 2 on this machine! I've had pretty good luck with the vibrator motors, they go bad once in awhile, maybe 1 every
3 or so years so that ain't bad. Appreciate your watching the show
today Michael and for being such a faithful follower
Darn, Dave! This is complex. I had thought that being an airplane pilot was complicated.
The electronics behind how this all works is complicated but
nothing like what they have on the new tampers Frank. Although
the principles are the same for old and new tampers. I thought
being a pilot was complex..... Thanks so much for checking out
the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thank you Sir 🌞👍
Your very welcome Mel. Thank you so much for your always
nice comments and for all the wonderful support you have
given the channel my friend.
Thank you for ur videos.. can you please make a video explaining the hydraulic system of the machine
I will add that to the list, thanks for the suggestion, It will be
some time before I get to it tho
Nice video. I have only ever ran mark 3 and 4 just about to start running a 6700. Looking to learn the difference between the 2
Thanks and wish you the best of luck. I've got several other 6700
videos on a playlist on my channel if you would care to watch them.
What operating system do you have on your 6700? Mine is an
old QNX Windows, bout 15 years old, wish I had a Jupiter 2 upgrade.
And if I can be of any help in your transition, please let me know.
ua-cam.com/play/PLTyDYTDnT0248s5BsB1abGpTrwNTDQFmR.html
Thanks for the explanation on how a tamper works for aligning track. Is it possible there is just debris in the valve and if you took it apart, you might be able to clean it and get back to work while waiting on a replacement / spare valve?
I did take it apart, nothing amiss. Got a new valve and then it
still didn't work so made some further diagnosing and found that
a Humphrey valve that fed this valve was bad and the other one
weak, so both of those have been replaced and I'm right back in
business. Do appreciate your helpful thoughts and for watching
my friend
grate vidio Dave im ready to go surface track after watching you.... good explation ..just between you and me ,,,,wink wink take that valve to a truck parts shop they should be able to cross it over
Awesome Mike, wow a comment like that coming from you is an very
much appreciated compliment! We did get that new valve, put it
on and it wasn't the problem. Did some electrical and pneumatic searching and
found out the 2 Humphrey valves that control the valve in
the back, 1 was bad and 1 was weak, so both got replaced and
it's working fine now. Glad I could help get you motivated....LOL
and will remember the truck parts shop info sir
Casey Jones used to sing, Happy rails to you until we meet again. 😊
Someday I'm gonna sing that on a video, just haven't worked
up the courage to do it yet...LOL Do appreciate your watching
the show today Skimmer
Beautifully clear explanation. Do the masks and receivers have to be re-aligned often? They look like they're hanging pretty far out there, just begging for someone or something to knock into them by accident.
Not need to be calibrated unless damaged or knocked out of
alignment. We do pick everything up to track travel so there is
little chance of them getting hit. Really glad you enjoyed,
we do appreciate your writing in and for watching
Great explanation on the equipment! What about dis-assembling the valve and cleaning it? Probably full of corrosion.
Thank you Brian for the helpful advice. I did take it apart and look.
We put new valve on and it still didn't work so did some further
investigation and found that a Humphrey air solenoid was not
allowing air to get to the valve in the back. Replaced it and we right back in business. All that was done obviously after the video was
made. Do so much appreciate your watching today's show my friend
Dave! Does the machine actually move the rail to align it to the other side. If it raises the track does it tamp balast under the ties to keep the track elevated ?....or is my question for the next video? 🤔
Very good question my friend. I can lift (surface) track by itself
and/or can lift and line track at the same time. Yes the machine
will align the rail to make it straight in a tangent or curved in
a curve. In both situations I can tamp ballast under the ties
to hold track surface. I can also align track without lifting and
without tamping ballast under it if I want to in special situations.
Hope that helps and we do appreciate your tuning in and watching
today's show Captain
Thank you sir
Your certainly welcome Wayne, do so much appreciate your viewing
the show today sir
I get the track up and down, and you showed us the $800 spreader, but how do you adjust the distance between rails if they are spiked down ?
Can't adjust gage with this machine. When it lines track it moves
both tracks at the same time if that's what you meant. To re gage track spikes would need to be pulled then we have a special
puller or spreader to set track gage. Appreciate your tuning in
and watching the show Gerald
Hey dave, how often does the alignment electronics (the stuff you didn't show us in this video) have to be recalibrated? And is it purely analogue or a mixture of digital, too?
Excellent question Steve and one with many answers. For all
tampers they need to re calibrate whenever there is a component replaced in the system. But as a general rule we do it about once every 2 years, but remember we are on class 2 track with 25 MPH.
On higher classes of track it is general rule to re calibrate annually.
On high speed track over 80 to 90 most railroads do it twice
annually and obviously on all classes if there are components replaced.
Now if I replace a jacking servo valve only, then I only need to
re calibrate that part of the system, not the entire machine, so
I think you get the idea there on that.
Our old system is not digital, I cannot say what the new Jupiter 2
operating systems are in that respect since I have little
knowledge about them. Our operating system is QNX Windows 6.10
which is almost 17 years old, which while is a dinosaur, it is
much better than the old DOS system we had for the computer
when I first learned to run the machine.
Thks for explaining. What year is that from
Your welcome, glad you enjoyed. Video was made in October 2021,
tamper was made in 1994.
Check out old school KC Highlighters sealed beams replacements they may last longer. Aircraft landing lights are rated for 25 hour service life
Thank you very much for the info. I did not know they only had
that short of a life span, but knew they just didn't last very long
in our application, I understand much better why now. KC Highligthers
used to be top of the line stuff for off roading if I recall right.
Do appreciate your watching today's show sir and for writing in
At its most basic, a tamping machine only packs the ballast. Some modern machines, sometimes known as tamper-liners or tamping and lining machines, also correct the alignment of the rails to make them parallel and level, in order to achieve a more comfortable ride
See my reply to your last comment Peter. Very much appreciate
your dropping by and taking in the video today my good man.
New to running tamper seeing if these videos will help
If I can help in anyway, let me know. Best of luck to you Jake 👍 6700's can be fickle at times
These are great informative videos. Would be awesome If you made some new operator instructional videos.
@@jakehibler104 glad you are enjoying Jake 😊
Werry intresting I have to watch it again
Great to hear you enjoyed the show today Thomas, we very much
do appreciate your tuning in and for your nice comment
OK Dave, tell me how you lower the rail that is too high?
Only way to do that Keith is either lift the low rail up to the
higher rail, or undercut the ballast out from the high rail. High
rail doesn't happen nearly as much as you might think tho.
Most often cause of the train weight consistently passing over
it, the track surface is low. Occasionally there is a small place
in the track where it is high, but not by much, so it's not that
big of a deal either, the tamper lifts the track into the high spot
and then doesn't jack track thru it, so all works out well.
Was an excellent question and I can tell you are a thinking man,
and I like that sir!
How does it move the rail with it spiked?
Very good question Doug. The jackbeam on the tamper picks
up and lines both rails at the same time. Ties are lifted as the rail is
being jacked by the jackbeam and also shifted from left to right or
vice versa. Hope that explains it for ya, if not write me back.
We do appreciate your writing in and for watching good sir
Thanks for explaining please show us the inside and while you are operating it.
Got several videos on my channel of being inside the cab and
operating it if you would like to watch sometime. They are on a
playlist on my channel page
ua-cam.com/play/PLTyDYTDnT0248s5BsB1abGpTrwNTDQFmR.html
On my 6700 in automatic production mode I get an over travel warning a lot. Do you get this and what is the reason?
Over travel means you've indexed for longer than 3 seconds and the
auto workhead has now been disengaged and your jackbeam clamps
won't clamp the rail until it is reset. I never get that alarm because
I always tamp in manual. If I remember right you have to unclamp,
wait a second or two and then re clamp to re set, it's been several years since I used auto.
@@ccrx6700 that is exactly right. I thought it might have been a rail slip issue. But that makes since.
@@ccrx6700 anyway to adjust it to a longer time?
@@animalou812 You'll have to call Joe at Harsco for that info, I do not
know. My mind is a blank on his last name but he is the guru. In the
meantime, don't hold the index button or joystick down so long. If you
have to index long, then tamp in manual and you won't get the
over travel.
Valve was made in 2019... must ride it hard!
Ended up not being that valve, we thought it was but when it
was replaced the problem still was occurring, so did further
investigation and found the Humphrey valve that fed that one
was the culprit, all is well now. Thanks for writing in and watching
G N
Just a few tweaks here and there. Every machine has/needs them.
86,700 + ties were completed Friday on the Adirondack Scenic Railroad's expansion to Tupper Lake, New York.
Sadly, 🥺😢😭 they ripped up/out 33 miles to Lake Placid 😢.
Remaining work to finish up will start in the spring.
Wow, that's a lot of new ties!!! Last load we got they were $65 a tie
for grade ties this spring. I was surprised they were that cheap,
hope you got a good deal on yours. My old baseball coach played
minor league ball in Untica a triple A club for the Philadelphia
Phillies in the early 1950's. Hope I can make it up there someday
and ride. Keep me posted how things are going Richard
@@ccrx6700 from what I've been told, the ties are impregnated with a copper sulfate preservative vs creosote. The upper part of the line, back in 1980, was reopened for the Olympics in Lake Placid. Part of the rail lines deal with the state was to use local hardwoods for ties and the green pressure treatment process, that in the end just didn't work. The ties didn't last in cinder ballast and the wood was not exactly the hardest and rotted.
Stay safe and I'll get back to you soon.
Richard Bause.
@@richardbause2453 thanks Richard for info, looking forward to updates sir 👍
Excellent work, again. Now, as you mentioned, you take one track as a guide, What;s happening if both tracks are off. How do you establish your base?
By the way, how many fully loaded trains do you run per day or week?
If both sides of the track are out of alignment, then when I make the
plot on the computer it will show up and I can adjust the plot parameters to correctly align that spot Chris. If the cross level of the
two rails are both off then that is also corrected by the surfacing of
the track by the tamper. When everything is running well, we run 6
round trips per 24 hours with the train. Thank you very much for visiting with us and may you have a really good day my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Thanks for the feedback
Interesting
Glad you enjoyed Rodger, really appreciate your tuning in to the
show today sir
Your Washington state subscribers ❤ always enjoy the Show...."professior Dave"...DO TAMPERS ALSO USE ACTUALLY LASERS INSTEAD OF LIGHTS ...?OR ARE WE WRONG?....ON OUR TOURIST RAILWAY WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE A PORTABLE LASER TAMPER 🤔..
WE ONLY HAVE 3 MILES OF TRACK......SUPER DAVE...WE ENJOY THE SHOW.....YOU DO A GREAT JOB ....IT BE COOL IF THE "TAMPER COMPANIES " WHO MAKE TAMPING AND TRACK MAINTENANCE SPONSORS YOUR CHANNEL.....IT BE GREAT ADVERTISING ON A BEAUTIFUL 17 MILE "TEST" BED RAILWAY...HOW EXCITING.......OH DAVE WOULD APPRECIATIVE SOME CONCRETE TIES SPONSORS TOO.....ANY TAKERS....
Some tampers are equipped with lasers Bradford. But they are
only used for tamping tangent track. The older tampers use the
24 volt light system for surfacing and lining track. Newer
tampers use a similar system but they are LED lights. The
lights have a chopper in them and the receivers count pulses.
Thank you so much for paying us a visit and writing in my friend.
Did you say "AIR ACTUATOR".Yes that is a Monster.I think you said it has 5 computers on board.Do you feel the Wheel for HOT Bearings.(That other Video you did)?Great Video and Sound.THANK you.
Lining actuator moves the mask back and forth and it has 3 separate
computer systems, which all work in conjunction with each other,
pretty amazing stuff. I often carry a heat gun and will check bearings
with it specially on my hi rail truck. Glad you enjoyed Ed and
we do appreciate your watching
That looks like an incredibly complex machine that makes it's job alot easier than the old fashioned manual way was. I wonder how long it actually takes for someone with 0 experience to get trained to run it and do so with some basic proficiency?
And I wonder how different a new modle is compared to that old one?
Well Jason, some folks have a knack for running equipment and some
don't, I could stand beside you and you could run the tamper, that
wouldn't take long at all, but to do it on your own, took me a year or
so before I got confidence in myself, after 18 years I'm still learning
how the darn contraption works! LOL Learning to set up curves takes
some study, then getting confidence to go out there and actually
throw a curve around with the tamper takes years to get comfortable
doing that on your own. But, if I screw up here, I have no one to
help me, and I have to fix it, so I'm a bit on the cautious side. Unlike
big RR's that have many trained in these things.
New models are significantly higher tech than this old 1994 model,
they do a better job in tamping also, track surface holds better for
them, higher HP and better workheads make a big difference.
Nice explanation Dave thanks.. I think that machine needs to be power washed...
Your welcome Wayne, great that you enjoyed my friend. Yep,
we used to power wash it several times a year, they got a really
expensive hot water washer several years ago, but it broke and
hasn't been fixed so it been several years since it has had a
good cleaning.... sigh....
@@ccrx6700 Dave, I feel your pain with the "company" overlooking the small things like maintenance repair. The chances are that the person overlooking the budget has never rode on a mis-aligned rail.
amazing, being done without lasers.
Old style, but works. New tampers used LED lights instead of
the 24 volt system. Those sending units have choppers in them
that "chop" the light beam, then the receivers count pulses.
Lasers are only used for tangent track and are in the middle of
the light carriage with a receiver in the middle of the front of
the tamper. Appreciate your tuning in and watching the show
today my friend
@@ccrx6700 you are the best sir!!
@@rearspeaker6364 thank you, I'm just an average guy trying to do his job and so very thankful I can share that with you guys
Ya, this is what I know a bit about the tech stuff, thanks tor the overview.
Your welcome Gerald, appreciate your watching
Fuel tank cap should be secured by a wire lanyard to the fuel tank as in some automobiles and aircraft.
Your certainly right in the Robin and the replacement cap that
is ordered I will do that promptly sir. Thanks for the excellent
advice, I had never thought of doing that.