OLD SCHOOL vs NEW SCHOOL.. 700HP MK4 SUPRA vs 550HP MK5 SUPRA

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  • Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
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  • @officially_gassed
    @officially_gassed  2 роки тому +82

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    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage 2 роки тому +2

      Man you know how to time these releases J-bro.. just sitting down at my desk for a killer Sunday morning sipping my steaming extra hot Starbucks Venti Toffee Nut Mocha. in Virginia Beach, VA..

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage 2 роки тому +2

      damn.. i thought old school would have been a lot closer.. technology ftw..

    • @elmatador4759
      @elmatador4759 2 роки тому +1

      Do it again on a dry surface and give the MK4 some real tires. Outcomes will be quite different

    • @Jay-mj5lu
      @Jay-mj5lu 2 роки тому +1

      Please do a manual transmission vs Manual.

    • @oliverdamnsh
      @oliverdamnsh Рік тому

      I agree with you

  • @Islam_is_the_truth.4
    @Islam_is_the_truth.4 2 роки тому +2327

    The mk4 supra is definitely not 700bhp lol with a quarter mile time of over 13 seconds and with a dual clutch transmission unless its been setup all wrong

    • @chad6876
      @chad6876 2 роки тому +286

      Well to start, those tyres are nowhere near enough for that kind of power

    • @ph3d
      @ph3d 2 роки тому +62

      Defo my heavier f80 M3 stage 2 with 550bhp max runs 12.0 with no launch definitely an 11 in it

    • @chaser_the_dream6798
      @chaser_the_dream6798 2 роки тому +52

      @@ph3d It’s newer tech mate. Iv smoked a lot of older ‘big power’ cars in my 700 bhp m3

    • @RACEPLANETuk
      @RACEPLANETuk 2 роки тому +101

      No grip and looks like driver was short shifting, would be good to see that again in the dry

    • @markus2jz
      @markus2jz 2 роки тому +48

      Newer tech doesnt explain the shitty 100-200kmh time. It should be in the high 5's or low 6's. Ok, the road was wet, but still...

  • @MrFar56
    @MrFar56 2 роки тому +463

    Drag race starts at 05:52

  • @minibotpc
    @minibotpc Рік тому +41

    Massive respect to the Mk4 owner for keeping it so civil, well done!

  • @JonTheCobraCrosby
    @JonTheCobraCrosby Рік тому +27

    I always love the roll races because that's how it's done on the freeways ..and you don't have to worry about the tire burn out from a drag start

  • @ryanevans8559
    @ryanevans8559 2 роки тому +962

    I think the new supra's turbo set up and technology brings it on boost so much earlier. plus its gearbox is geared to keep it in a constant sweet spot in relation to its power band.
    This is a good example of how peak numbers are not necessarily the deciding factor in how quick a vehicle is.

    • @_Professor_Oak
      @_Professor_Oak 2 роки тому +44

      Also traction control vs no traction control in the rain, you could see and hear the mk4 clearly spinning 1st/2nd/3rd. A dry warn day I would say it would be neck and neck in the drags and the mk4 would take the rolls easily.

    • @speed9539
      @speed9539 2 роки тому +8

      That’s because it’s a bmw twin scroll turbo engine haha 😂

    • @cxbra
      @cxbra 2 роки тому +7

      Very well said, also the way the traction control intrudes ONLY enough to keep traction. Car tech is wild!

    • @ryanevans8559
      @ryanevans8559 2 роки тому +15

      @@_Professor_Oak I'm no so sure that traction was even that much of an issue here. It appears to me that the new supra makes more overall wheel torque 'throughout' the race due to how efficient its turbo, engine and gearbox are.

    • @donkeydeakin
      @donkeydeakin 2 роки тому +8

      @@speed9539 glad somebody said it 😂 the b58 boosts so quick!

  • @pj9375
    @pj9375 2 роки тому +110

    Back in 1993, mk IV was a weapon…. And it’s still delivering nearly 30 yrs on! Respect ✊

    • @marekmecir5822
      @marekmecir5822 Рік тому +6

      Well back in 93, if you mean stock, it made old schools 320hp, still a lot

    • @TheAceKannon
      @TheAceKannon 11 місяців тому +1

      @@marekmecir5822for the 90’s that’s equivalent to the 500+ numbers we see now. That’s actually wild Toyota did this

  • @anolakes1454
    @anolakes1454 2 роки тому +3

    so much more grip in the mk5, the little aero tweaks, height, suspension setup, tire size, tire compound, less weight, better gearbox, etc. etc. , yea this makes sense
    also just better driving in general

  • @DMC619
    @DMC619 2 роки тому +6

    Mk4 probably needs more rubber, and the Mk5 probably delivers the boost a lot better… I don’t think the mk5 broke traction, which makes a massive difference. Both beautiful though and great content.

  • @juniorcool89
    @juniorcool89 2 роки тому +537

    Mk4 owner definitely taking it easy off the line in the drag race. Small rear wheel and more tire would have been great. Great races

    • @klean_upguyza6461
      @klean_upguyza6461 2 роки тому +25

      Granny shifting

    • @ngjason5139
      @ngjason5139 2 роки тому +4

      I think its MK4 traction issue on the damp ground

    • @peterwho9380
      @peterwho9380 2 роки тому +2

      Yes and I was totally thinking of the same thing!

    • @marcjohnson6339
      @marcjohnson6339 2 роки тому +5

      He can't drive. The guy in the mark4. He scared of the car. Nothing but early shifts he did

    • @justinlikesme19
      @justinlikesme19 Рік тому

      What do you expect people in america don’t even know how to proper set up on a car.,

  • @Henjacked
    @Henjacked Рік тому +11

    If that Mk4 is 700 horse he’s definitely not giving it everything. Also funny how quiet the Mk5 guy got on the last roll race lol

    • @mouaxiong8618
      @mouaxiong8618 Рік тому

      I'd say its 100% making 700hp. On every roll it always pulls ahead with 200 more hp it was 2 car length ahead.

    • @s2e130
      @s2e130 2 місяці тому

      Just what I was thinking, got awfully quiet when he started losing 🤡

  • @Dan-vt1qt
    @Dan-vt1qt Рік тому +1

    I love this kind of videos makes me laugh 😂 is weird when im on the track all the time watching 2jzs making from 1000 to 2000hp sweeping the floor with the new bmws(supras) jejeje

  • @anonlincracing2484
    @anonlincracing2484 2 роки тому +68

    the mk4 pulled harder but u can tell the higher it climbed the torque broke the wheels loose uv got to be a good driver to modulate a machine like that

    • @siniyden
      @siniyden 2 роки тому

      ithas 2 modes: on and off due to a big turbo, no matter how you drive

  • @JackMcNeillCars
    @JackMcNeillCars 2 роки тому +186

    Mk4’s turbo was too big, wasn’t spooling up quick enough. Needs some tyres and an lsd if it hasn’t already got one. Not sure about the dct on the mk4. General setup didn’t seem right. Either way, both great cars and massive respect to the owners 👍🏼

    • @stiffler69er
      @stiffler69er 2 роки тому +19

      or the driver was scared of the power, cause thats what it looked like to me letting off every time his car got sideways thats where you build your boost, shift and the car should hook straight

    • @slayerarmy
      @slayerarmy 2 роки тому +10

      @@stiffler69er I've seen people stay in while they are wheel spinning, by the time they shift, they are already at full boost and go even more sideways. Its damp outside, and those tires need to be warmed up at least

    • @bman1668
      @bman1668 2 роки тому +11

      B58 spools faster than 2jz

    • @peterwade2389
      @peterwade2389 2 роки тому +5

      Yeah that mk4 is a waste with that tranni

    • @johnmcgerty9320
      @johnmcgerty9320 2 роки тому

      Prob has lsd

  • @AyaxRo
    @AyaxRo 6 місяців тому

    The MKIV is wheel hopping like crazy. That was the killer.
    Man so sweet a MKIV with a DCT.. perfection.

  • @moreforestthanaflorist7762
    @moreforestthanaflorist7762 2 роки тому

    ANYONE seen man like Ricky last I heard he had gone on the rock and roll........ officially gassed killing the four wheel scene 🔥

  • @JordieMotive97
    @JordieMotive97 2 роки тому +65

    Nathan is a top lad - that MK5 is an awesome build and I’m glad the MK5 hate is starting to die off - Lee’s MK4 is a great build as well but I think he might have been better off with a slightly smaller turbo that spools quicker

    • @dwaynehenry3281
      @dwaynehenry3281 2 роки тому

      B58

    • @ojdidit84
      @ojdidit84 2 роки тому

      And more tire in the rear. Losing way too much traction.

    • @ant_mk3596
      @ant_mk3596 2 роки тому

      Not necessarily a smaller turbo because you can get big turbos that spool quick, he just needs one with a lower rpm boost efficiency. Or nos to spool it up

    • @hunterbolt10
      @hunterbolt10 Рік тому +2

      He needs to stop short shifting so much

    • @cartrips9263
      @cartrips9263 Рік тому

      Z4 hate isnt dying off. Its getting worse because they are getting older and and people realizing they are indeed BMW quality. Plus the design is still barf inducing and will be completely obsolete in a few years, like the last Celica.

  • @mambamolt_tt73
    @mambamolt_tt73 2 роки тому +227

    I stumbled across your channel a few days ago, and my goodness is the content great. So I started binge watching loads of your vids much appreciation and thanks for all you do 👍

    • @scoobysean555
      @scoobysean555 2 роки тому +7

      Your in for a treat 💪 every single video Jamie has done has been top drawer 😎😍

    • @gmain1977
      @gmain1977 2 роки тому +7

      You have a lot of catching up to do great chanel 👍🏾👍🏾

    • @damo8754
      @damo8754 2 роки тому +8

      Try start from the beginning bro, you'll get a really good sence of the journey of the channel and its journey to here today. Love that energy Jamie brings hes an enthusiast through and through ✌

    • @tawon1984
      @tawon1984 2 роки тому +3

      Same

    • @JU5TAV6
      @JU5TAV6 2 роки тому +2

      Welcome to arguably the BEST AUTO channel on the planet. Much love from VA the other side of the pond.

  • @tttaaammm999
    @tttaaammm999 Рік тому

    That was epic race

  • @karm-alfathul
    @karm-alfathul Рік тому

    The grandfather with new baby 🔥🔥💙

  • @CineeK911
    @CineeK911 2 роки тому +189

    Love that MKIV, no matter how the race would’ve went, I would always be a huge 2jz fan. Probably cause I was born in 1991 and I’ve got a massive sentiment to 90s cars. That MkV though 👌🏻

    • @SNIPEYOPIPE
      @SNIPEYOPIPE 2 роки тому +18

      MkV still an I6 bro. I know the 2JZ is legendary, but times have changed it seems.

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 2 роки тому +3

      The only import engine in the world in the 5s is the 2JZ. Think about that!

    • @SNIPEYOPIPE
      @SNIPEYOPIPE 2 роки тому +14

      @@ytsux9259 And it is NOT a daily driver, is it? Who cares about drag cars. They aren't racing dragsters in this video. By the way, it's almost 6 seconds. Nowhere near 5. LMAO

    • @blazesmooth5573
      @blazesmooth5573 2 роки тому

      @@SNIPEYOPIPE It's in the 5s, almost 6 seconds is in the 5s, 0.1 second before 6 is in the 5s, 0.00001 second before 6 is in the 5s, in no way was anything he said remotly wrong but u on the otherhand. A handful of mistakes, drag races proves actual engine reliability tunability and performance

    • @blazesmooth5573
      @blazesmooth5573 2 роки тому

      @@SNIPEYOPIPE still an i6 with more hp capability than any american v8

  • @RTWENTY3
    @RTWENTY3 2 роки тому +92

    Was a savage day, thanks for having me down bro & big up lee’s incredible build 🫡

    • @officially_gassed
      @officially_gassed  2 роки тому +3

      🏁🙌🏽

    • @duncanlang922
      @duncanlang922 2 роки тому +1

      What an awesome pair of cars!

    • @ControlStrategy
      @ControlStrategy 2 роки тому +5

      We need to do it again without the rain and craters in the runway!!!

    • @RTWENTY3
      @RTWENTY3 2 роки тому +3

      @@ControlStrategy yesssss santa pod day

    • @jason21jburg
      @jason21jburg 2 роки тому

      @@ControlStrategy you coukd tell how bad the surface was

  • @jasonmaradiaga3971
    @jasonmaradiaga3971 2 роки тому

    You know what I can’t be mad at that 7spd Dual Clutch trannie on the mk4, kinda blew my mind as a guy who keeps on working on my 02 civic (that sat for 7yrs without running) extensively to keep it running lol

  • @Sebasram22
    @Sebasram22 10 місяців тому

    The best duo dont exi…☠️🗿

  • @anabolicbear719
    @anabolicbear719 2 роки тому +11

    Awesome race!! Love the new supra, big things coming to this platform 🙌

  • @fcwiid9037
    @fcwiid9037 2 роки тому +47

    It must be absolutely insane to own a car with these amounts of power. Especially if, like me, you're only use to a fiesta

    • @joshuadqueen
      @joshuadqueen 2 роки тому

      It's definitely a wake up. I went from a boosted BRZ that I had for nearly 5 years. The BRZ with all the money in it doesn't even begin to touch the Supra. Doesn't cost much more than the BRZ per month.

    • @user-li3iq6tv1r
      @user-li3iq6tv1r 2 роки тому +1

      Nothing wrong with a fiesta!!

    • @joshuadqueen
      @joshuadqueen 2 роки тому

      @@paulharper4196 I think I saw two of those last week. They don't look like they'd melt you, but sexy for sure!

    • @jamesst1809
      @jamesst1809 Рік тому

      What fiesta you got nothing wrong with that nippy cars

    • @mac4060
      @mac4060 Рік тому

      Me owns a tuned Palio 1.8r 😂 but at least i am quicker than a new fabrics civic sedan 2.0 and same speed as the new corolla sedan aswell... But civic drivers are always mad becouse they think they own a badasscar which is 5 times more expensive than mine but my palio is quicker haha

  •  2 роки тому +1

    The MKIV never gets old, it's still one of the most beautiful cars.

  • @rodrigoaltamirano5439
    @rodrigoaltamirano5439 Рік тому +1

    Aye regardless how fast the new supra is it will never bet the old school never

  • @danesmits
    @danesmits 2 роки тому +8

    Amazing how he got humbled and grew 10 years older when doing the roll racing, he is a good kid

    • @sircefiro
      @sircefiro 2 роки тому

      Unfortunately modern cars being easy to drive make people into heroes for pushing a pedal down

  • @DareDevilPhil
    @DareDevilPhil 2 роки тому +61

    Mk4 wins the 2 roll races where he was starting to spool by rolling onto it before the line. Effectively neutralising the Mk5s advantage.

    • @lesanecrooks6548
      @lesanecrooks6548 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly. Good discerning there.

    • @dimitris9573
      @dimitris9573 2 роки тому +6

      Well that wasn’t fair because in the last 2 roll races the mk4 had higher beginning speed of the line

    • @blazesmooth5573
      @blazesmooth5573 2 роки тому

      @@dimitris9573 redline

    • @javierpereira7580
      @javierpereira7580 2 роки тому +1

      Agree, the MK4 was coming from the back likely at higher speed. To make it fair both need to line up at same speed by the pick up point

    • @bman1668
      @bman1668 Рік тому

      How about if they both were 700hp mk4 has no chance lol 😂 but mk4 is what most people like

  • @Star.Chaser
    @Star.Chaser 2 роки тому

    Should be in the 10’s with a good set up at 6-700 wheel lol… my 400 wheel sr20 180 consistently timed 4.2’s and 4.3’s to 100, it’s not even squeaking the tires into 2nd, my Mazda 3 does with traction on, my old focus fried halfway through 3rd and my 180sx chirped into 3rd on semi slick 245’s.

  • @richardkeane3051
    @richardkeane3051 Рік тому +1

    I’d take the mk4, but it’s close. I agree with another comment, seems like mk4 owner taking it easy! Great sounds.👍👍👍

  • @MustafaAli-85
    @MustafaAli-85 2 роки тому +13

    Got nothing but love and respect to the MK4 , but I chosed the MK5 coz it's newer and can be easily modified to 500+ HP. Loving it so far

    • @streetcarstv5088
      @streetcarstv5088 2 роки тому +1

      2j can make 1000 on a stock bottom end it’s quite famous for it

    • @MustafaAli-85
      @MustafaAli-85 2 роки тому +6

      @@streetcarstv5088 every car enthusiast knows that .. but many people don't know how much it cost to reach 1000HP .. it's alot of cash mate .
      On the other hand for the MK5 to reach 500HP , it won't cost you 3500$

    • @MustafaAli-85
      @MustafaAli-85 2 роки тому +7

      Also , believe me , it's time we look beyond engine power numbers or WHP numbers ... this video is just one example that shows how 500HP modern cars can keep up with bigger beasts😁

    • @blakew5672
      @blakew5672 2 роки тому +2

      @@streetcarstv5088
      Yeah, they can make 1000 HP on the stock bottom and still run a 12 sec quarter lmao
      Just look at the leaderboard in this video. Supras run terrible times for the power levels they make, which would be excusable if they’re also weren’t terrible on road courses. Legit dyno queens without a TON of cash sunk into them. At least they’re good looking

    • @96SupraTT
      @96SupraTT 2 роки тому +3

      @@MustafaAli-85 you're right about 1000hp costs, but 500hp on a MKIV is just a downpipe, exhaust and maybe a front mount intercooler. No tune needed, just pull a vacuum line or 2 although I prefer a boost controller. This was the recipe for 500hp in a MKIV 25+ years ago. Stomped almost everything then, but not so much these days.

  • @ALX_Offiziell
    @ALX_Offiziell 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you for the Video.
    The old Supra didn't drive fairly at Roll Race. he drove through the line with momentum and was therefore faster at the start.

  • @Muhaameer-jg5fh
    @Muhaameer-jg5fh Рік тому

    respect the mk4 owner❤

  • @timelapsega
    @timelapsega Рік тому

    Wow I've seen a BMW DCT in a 900hp RX-7 that was amazing, really sick seeing it in a supra

  • @Dragoninja35
    @Dragoninja35 2 роки тому +24

    This has given me a new look on the mk5 supra and the B58 engine imagine both the mk4 and mk5 both running similar bhp 🥵😍😍

    • @duncanlang922
      @duncanlang922 2 роки тому +29

      Some much hate for the mk5 because people don’t want to hear that it’s much better than the mk4.

    • @stokecityyouth
      @stokecityyouth 2 роки тому +8

      The B58 is a masterpiece, it's the mid range torque that shocks most people. A stage 2+ B58 M140i runs into the 7 second mark 100-200.

    • @oxycotton1742
      @oxycotton1742 2 роки тому +2

      @@duncanlang922 it was design to be better ….ofcourse its going to be better….90s car vs a 2020 car with all the fancy tech…..for me the new supra is awesome but they missed what made a supra so legendary …i was expecting the interior design to be more driver focused like the mk4 …but they made the mk5 into just another new fast car …we already have that 🤷‍♂️…..this is why people keep calling it BMW and making other jokes

    • @lordoftherims436
      @lordoftherims436 2 роки тому

      @@duncanlang922 ofcourse its going to be better. The mk5 is 20 years newer. I havent heard anyone deny that. You dont hear people saying the 1965 gt500 is better than the 2021 gt500 for example

    • @Not_jdm_af
      @Not_jdm_af 2 роки тому

      Wouldn't even be fair 😂😂

  • @dub537h5
    @dub537h5 2 роки тому +12

    The sound of that 2jz is insanely beautiful

  • @lucienpetrus9432
    @lucienpetrus9432 Рік тому

    Much luv 4 both. Cape Town South Africa

  • @giridhars8258
    @giridhars8258 2 роки тому

    Feels like u raced ur grandfather at a run race and won.😂😂

  • @ChefBoyarDEEZ
    @ChefBoyarDEEZ 2 роки тому +22

    New tech makes a huge difference. 500hp now is like 800hp - 900hp 20 years ago

    • @carlosbarragan1673
      @carlosbarragan1673 2 роки тому +3

      Hp will always be hp, itis the same.. that never changes , what makes the difference is the gbox, ecu and computers technology that makes every thing work perfect not the hp. The efficiency of how the ecu plus engine plus gbox manage to work together.. Hp is the same. 200 hp in 1993 is the same as 200 of today.

    • @Balmung812
      @Balmung812 2 роки тому

      @@carlosbarragan1673 weight.

    • @ChefBoyarDEEZ
      @ChefBoyarDEEZ 2 роки тому

      @@carlosbarragan1673 yea that's what I said.

    • @S197kevo
      @S197kevo 9 місяців тому

      Idk about that I gapped a 580whp mk5 on low boost

  • @shepardman993
    @shepardman993 2 роки тому +14

    Mk5 looks absolutely stunning and can move too🙌
    The mk4 think I’d be asking my tuner what the hell is going on....
    Great work guys

  • @teddybuss5002
    @teddybuss5002 Рік тому

    Mk4 sounds like traction control is fighting the power so much and is spinning so much

  • @magnetman3t725
    @magnetman3t725 2 роки тому

    I like both cars but it’s 2022 and I have a 21 GR Supra and it’s a great car for DD and Road Course Track Days.

  • @kung-fuhustle5755
    @kung-fuhustle5755 2 роки тому +11

    For the old supra, considering it’s age. It’s still had an awesome run.

    • @llynellyn
      @llynellyn Рік тому

      It actually didn't, because of the 700hp it couldn't put the power down hence taking longer to get to 60 than a stock car.

  • @Jadadidthistome
    @Jadadidthistome 2 роки тому +13

    After watching this the MK5 is growing on me. They happen to be a lot more affordable than a MK4.

    • @whatupguy5685
      @whatupguy5685 2 роки тому +1

      For now

    • @KingDiamondBones
      @KingDiamondBones Рік тому

      @@whatupguy5685 doesn’t matter lol

    • @ghettolemon3993
      @ghettolemon3993 4 місяці тому

      as of now the mk5 supra is the best pound for pound sports car for $60k. really does deserve the title of supra. perfect mix of affordability, reliability, and capability.

  • @414Chevy
    @414Chevy 2 роки тому +1

    Things I've learned about DSG cars via my 2008 R32 is that they are inconsistent from a stop vs a torque converter automatic. From a roll, in the right gear, the DSG car, if it has with more horsepower will be hard to beat, unless the automatic has a race converter.

  • @pollux2825
    @pollux2825 Рік тому

    that dude DCT finna blow

  • @autotrimmers6353
    @autotrimmers6353 2 роки тому +7

    Seeing them side by side makes me realize how similar they are

  • @Adam-nv9zo
    @Adam-nv9zo 2 роки тому +4

    Awesome video guys. I think the results would differ on a dry track.

  • @anjru_
    @anjru_ 2 роки тому

    I love the mk4 supra but man.... that mk5 has grown on me the past couple years!

  • @IDeletedData
    @IDeletedData Рік тому

    love my mkv but the way that mk4 sounds tho!

  • @CarGuyLife
    @CarGuyLife 2 роки тому +153

    What a incredible race! The old supra was definitely struggling for traction if this was in the dry i believe the mk4 would of won more

    • @karlsilverone
      @karlsilverone 2 роки тому +8

      would *have

    • @ryanevans8559
      @ryanevans8559 2 роки тому +26

      I doubt it. The new supra is on boost so much earlier and its gearbox is geared perfectly for its power band. Traction didn't seem too much of an issue.

    • @hw6639
      @hw6639 2 роки тому +8

      Nope, traction isn´t the problem. The new Supra has the same benefit, if the traction is better.. Ihr müsst mal checken, dass schnell gerade aus nicht die einzige Disziplin ist. Fahrbarkeit ist das *A* und *O* .

    • @joshuadqueen
      @joshuadqueen 2 роки тому +1

      It won't. Doesn't the rain affect both cars or no? I changed my tires cause I moved to WA...rain definitely affects the mkv also lol

    • @Beansswtf
      @Beansswtf 2 роки тому

      @@joshuadqueen Rain affects the one with the worse tyres in the rain more... Mk4 has fucking rubber bands for tyres and the mk5 looks to have proper tyres on it

  • @loudcars209
    @loudcars209 2 роки тому +8

    Nice 1,both cars look good but I would go for the new school .

  • @jamzz7868
    @jamzz7868 Рік тому +1

    That Mk 5 😍

  • @whalehands
    @whalehands Рік тому

    Did he really say "See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya"? That made me chuckle

  • @turbomonkey93
    @turbomonkey93 2 роки тому +9

    Man them new supras are soooo much better looking than the mk4

    • @ETH85
      @ETH85 2 роки тому +1

      No !

  • @gockartzz8272
    @gockartzz8272 2 роки тому +6

    On drag i knew the new supra had it because newer cars usually have much better traction than old cars. Well on the roll race i thuaght the 700hp 2j would destroy the b58 but i guess i am wrong

  • @ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063

    Could someone please tell me exactly what body kit the mk5 has please i absolutely love it , way more tasteful that a wide body kit ... what parts it has and who makes them would be muchly appreciated mate 🇦🇺💪🏽👏🏽

  • @llynellyn
    @llynellyn Рік тому

    I'm confused, how did the tuned MKIV do 0-60 a second slower than factory?

  • @BabaYagaRacing
    @BabaYagaRacing 2 роки тому +5

    B58 > 2JZ
    Change my mind

    • @duncanlang922
      @duncanlang922 2 роки тому

      100%

    • @v8_sami
      @v8_sami 2 роки тому

      Yo baba I didn’t expect you to watch this channel lol.

  • @gerasimosdrogaris9121
    @gerasimosdrogaris9121 2 роки тому +4

    The mk4 has a huge turbo on it and I think that its driver was changing way too fast to fully spooll. Moreover the mk4 struggles for traction when the mk5 has so many systems that help it to stay on the road.

  • @layschip782
    @layschip782 Рік тому

    Everybody gangsta until u hear the turbo whistling

  • @EDIAutoChannel
    @EDIAutoChannel Рік тому

    Mk4 supra was rolling into the Starting line, reducing the Slip, the guy in the Mk5 Everytime would back off a little than WOT and break loose.. Both incredible cars All Supra love very impressed by the MK5 against the old school Monster.

  • @hardcoretam
    @hardcoretam 2 роки тому +13

    Older dude was cheating a bit on the rolling start. He was going a bit faster than the young lad by the time they reached the line to nail it.

    • @Belly4982
      @Belly4982 2 роки тому +1

      Always same with these role races, pace setter gets jumped on

    • @hardcoretam
      @hardcoretam 2 роки тому

      @@24k__J The Mk4 Supra started much later on the roll to get up to speed. But they were the same level once they reached the line to floor it.
      If he started much later as you can see in the video, then the only way for him to be possibly at the start line the same time as the Mk5, is if he was travelling at a faster speed.

    • @Belly4982
      @Belly4982 2 роки тому

      @@24k__J 😏

  • @2jzhx60
    @2jzhx60 2 роки тому +10

    Nice runs. Was the Supra running less power than 750hp or did it spin in the wet? My 700hp manual MKIV went 100-200 in 6.1 sec measured with the Dragy app, so 7.4 secs is quite a lot slower.

    • @zol_369
      @zol_369 2 роки тому

      Yep my 700bhp m3 2jz also does 6 sec 100-200 I think it’s either because of the damp conditions or it’s not actually running the power stated 👀

  • @babysickness
    @babysickness Рік тому

    Old soup 🍲 prrraaa !!! Driver let's off a lot

  • @vincentronan8767
    @vincentronan8767 Рік тому +1

    I like both of supras

  • @user-ii2nd5zf1e
    @user-ii2nd5zf1e 2 роки тому +6

    Now that's the race we all were waiting for 🥵🥵🥵

  • @THEDOPEYDAISY
    @THEDOPEYDAISY 2 роки тому +13

    The DCT breaks traction on the gear change where as the ZF is much more smoother. If the MK5 had 600bhp with a full hybrid setup he would win everywhere.

    • @johnmcgerty9320
      @johnmcgerty9320 2 роки тому +1

      If the mk5 had 600 he’d win

    • @johnmcgerty9320
      @johnmcgerty9320 2 роки тому +1

      Nice pure800 sort things out

    • @THEDOPEYDAISY
      @THEDOPEYDAISY 2 роки тому +1

      @L W A car that performs in all conditions and surfaces is always the better car.

  • @joealpha3707
    @joealpha3707 Рік тому

    Old school 💖💥

  • @ChrisHib01
    @ChrisHib01 Рік тому

    get rid of the ott pop and bang map on the a90, and it sounds genuinely decent.
    great match up guys

  • @willowm6760
    @willowm6760 2 роки тому +51

    I think that MK4 has a lot more in it. Suspect the driver was holding back on the drag race. Great cars great match up nonetheless! 😎

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 2 роки тому +5

      He couldn't put power down. And power band is narrow and up top. It's not gonna win from a dig

    • @aerickvesereu1796
      @aerickvesereu1796 2 роки тому +2

      I think the mild hybrid turbo system in the new supra is the deciding factor. It creates boost much earlier and has a more effective power band. Also, the transmission is tuned perfectly to keep the engine at peak power. The smaller rear tires and heavier wieght didn't help either.

    • @xborg7117
      @xborg7117 2 роки тому +2

      Some people cant admit defeat

  • @onedropreggaedvd
    @onedropreggaedvd 2 роки тому +10

    Good race.👏🏽👏🏽 Both cars I’d have in my garage 💯. Would love to see a rematch on a dry track.

    • @johnmcgerty9320
      @johnmcgerty9320 2 роки тому

      Rematch on the track would leave mk4 behind

  • @jesusqueriapa3226
    @jesusqueriapa3226 Рік тому

    German engineer 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @cedrick525
    @cedrick525 2 роки тому

    Them cups 2s was not happy they needed some heat

  • @lee84
    @lee84 2 роки тому +9

    Owned a lot of old school cars, but I’d go with the new Supra just for the comfort and modern features these newer cars have.

    • @stichupman
      @stichupman 2 роки тому +3

      Same. I'm not sure why it gets so much hate. Hardly a bad thing having a b58 in it.

    • @anti4107
      @anti4107 2 роки тому +2

      @@stichupman also the old supra is massively overpriced for a 30 year old shitbox

    • @Yueymosthated
      @Yueymosthated 2 роки тому

      @@anti4107 overpriced yes but it’s not a shit box but the mk5 definitely did grow on me

    • @anti4107
      @anti4107 2 роки тому +1

      @@Yueymosthated most are shitboxes and still overpriced because of the age of it and how common it was in japan

  • @user-sv4rp3yd4x
    @user-sv4rp3yd4x 2 роки тому +3

    Hey Jamie when we getting to see the bmw 335D again? I love to give it a loving home 👌😉. Keep up the great work

  • @DanBlackRacing
    @DanBlackRacing 3 місяці тому

    OG all day over new ANYTHING.

  • @edwardcaine9718
    @edwardcaine9718 2 роки тому +6

    B58 delivering the goods 👌 awesome video

  • @thedylan1956
    @thedylan1956 2 роки тому +3

    In the decider, the mk4 gets such an unfair start by speeding past the mk5 right at the line

  • @danielborrowdale3903
    @danielborrowdale3903 Рік тому

    I'd put a turbo 400 with gear vendors overdrive good converter and trans brake in the mk4 before a dct. Preferably just keep it manual.

  • @TheCodyLaxton
    @TheCodyLaxton Рік тому

    The most emotionless mk4 driver ever.... Smile bro lol

  • @strikeeaglemodels1588
    @strikeeaglemodels1588 2 роки тому +9

    Very surprised what happened in round one considering the extra 150bhp advantage 😳👀

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude 2 роки тому

      Only built auto supras are fast. Stick shift is a completely turd.

    • @tomhill2497
      @tomhill2497 2 роки тому +3

      Peak power doesn’t tell the full story. The mk5 will be on boost way earlier and probably has quite a flat power curve compared to the mk4

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 2 роки тому +3

      @@TheBb6prelude 6-sp stick 2JZ Supra holds the world record for the quickest H-pattern manual transmission in the world. 😏

  • @18ksamknight41
    @18ksamknight41 2 роки тому +8

    mk4 really struggling for traction, he had to let off the gas on the first roll race from drifting off the strip🤣

    • @hw6639
      @hw6639 2 роки тому

      Dann bricht die Power zusammen, darum hat der alte Supra ja soviel Power. Da gibt´s nur *AN* oder *AUS* . Aber das wollen die ganz Schnell&wütend - Bubis nicht wahr haben. Erstens sind das Filmautos, die handgeschaltet einen Scheiß machen, aber keine 10 Skunden und zweitens ist Leistung nicht alles.

  • @Eazyou
    @Eazyou Рік тому

    Amazing what almost 30 years of tech can do

  • @adambrown8653
    @adambrown8653 Рік тому

    Mk4 supra Vs marmite Mk5. I love it 😂

  • @joelwehrli8628
    @joelwehrli8628 2 роки тому +4

    The mk4 is obviously a legend and one of my all time favourites. BUT the pops and bangs of that mk5 are just brilliant.

  • @A2J_Tim
    @A2J_Tim 2 роки тому +21

    that mkiv is 475 whp at best, very similar mph to my supra with a 6spd, I was running low 12s at 122 mph with 500 whp dyno sheet.
    I ran 10.8 at 135mph with 700 whp
    BTW I was at 2292 ft elevation on those passes, not sea level also my targa car weighs in at 3495 lbs

    • @LLoydDStiff
      @LLoydDStiff 2 роки тому +3

      Agree 💯 the mph tells the story. That's definitely not 700hp

    • @TheTruthTeller1111
      @TheTruthTeller1111 2 роки тому +1

      My 93 six speed Mark 4 Supra ran mid-130 trap speeds on low boost (18 psi @ 650 rwhp & 575tq) with a 76 mm turbo running 93 octane pump gas. That car is definitely not 700 rear wheel horsepower.

    • @TheTruthTeller1111
      @TheTruthTeller1111 2 роки тому +1

      I live 800 ft above sea level. My Supra was also a targa top.

    • @TheTruthTeller1111
      @TheTruthTeller1111 2 роки тому

      I ran a 12.002 at 125 mph @ around 500 rwhp with street tires. I think I was on a 63mm with stock fuel system and intercooler with the stock ECU and a VPC.

    • @zdoomcentral
      @zdoomcentral 2 роки тому +1

      I ran an 11.71@119.6mph in my mkv yesterday with a 1.9 60 foot. Bone stock aside from a jb4 piggyback and some e30 fuel. The mkv puts down the power very efficiently. Catless down pipe and a real tune can put you in the 10s with a tire.

  • @KingofPho75
    @KingofPho75 7 місяців тому

    people say the mk5 is a bmw z4 but when u put it next to the mk4 and with a spoiler, they look so much alike.

  • @succ1ezt
    @succ1ezt Рік тому

    I feel like the new tech BMW parts really have not been set up right on the Mk4 Supra, and I feel like the driver has such an attachment to the car he doesn’t want to damage it, great races though abs and a automatic gearbox on the mk5 really did show it how to run the new tech

  • @BOOSTEDDUDE
    @BOOSTEDDUDE 2 роки тому +17

    Great comparisons! I would have to say I'd prefer the MK4 just because of how nostalgically awesome they are and more on the Japanese side of this sports car. That new one was done up proper and handles the quarter mile nice nicely over the MK4. The roll races is where the MK4 was able to keep it's power to the ground and take home a few W's. Great content.

    • @relentlessking8919
      @relentlessking8919 2 роки тому

      And reliability.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 2 роки тому

      The B58 is a new kid on the block still,waiting for more and more tuners to crank more power out of that

    • @BOOSTEDDUDE
      @BOOSTEDDUDE 2 роки тому

      @@seansiew5629 It definitely has some good power! Wonder how much HP someone has pushed the stock engine to?

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 2 роки тому +1

      @@BOOSTEDDUDE for now that I know maximum power on stock block is 650hp on B58 alone

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 2 роки тому

      @@seansiew5629 The only import engine in the world in the 5s is the 2JZ. Think about that!

  • @keenanallies8499
    @keenanallies8499 2 роки тому +15

    This one is slightly tough, honestly for me I prefer new school over old school always have always will don't get me wrong b58 is a Marvel of Engineering it's already a great platform to start from and it doesn't take a lot in order to make it brilliant while remaining reliable (from what I know and what I've seen that's my own personal opinion JUST SAYING 😀) on any given day I will choose new school regardless of the car brand my personal favourite are German cars always have been but in this case of Germany vs Japanese I choose both because I have a soft spot for the Iconic MK4 and its respectable 2JZ platforms of N/A, twin-turbos & single turbo straight from factory for their owners to choose from back in the early 90s over-engineered platform that modern sports cars with the most significant contribution of technology at their disposal that's able to run back-to-back anywhere anytime any conditions confidently but as soon as a MK4 Supra pulls alongside them it's crazy how confidence, arrogance and the cockiness disappears and that tells me one thing or in this case two things you scared because there ain't no such thing as a standard MK4 I've never heard of a standard MK4 or the other thing is probably reason why most of us was so into cars, it's the Pinnacle of where highly tuned began,may even be The Fast And The Furious franchise I don't know why but everything still comes back to one Factor which is the Respect part going up I was always taught to respect my elders and in this case I feel pretty much the same it's been around for about 3 decades feared and respected I've literally just always had a soft spot for them and come on........ you're ever heard of someone who is building their new car and the 2JZ platform is been used tell me that doesn't mean it's serious because all I hear is RACECAR "I bet you if the 2JZ abbreviation was added to a dictionary what do you think it's definition will be let me give you a hint it won't be the engines code name it description should read as follows
    CRAZY
    FEARED
    NEXT LEVEL
    POWERFUL
    SERIOUSLY SERIOUS"
    HAHAHA I'm messing around now but it's more Iconic than a supercar, it's most likely the best example of why we love and are so fascinated by fully built engines and tuned cars there's more than enough reasonable examples all from a mk4 2jz perspective sound of it dumping boost pssssssssshh where I still make with my mouth
    If you don't like the 2jz then you are clearly not a car guy or you suffering with RB26 fever which is also brilliant but doesn't mean any because R35 GTR has presents but what is a Mk4 Supra is parked alongside it what would you find yourself looking at🤔🤫😏lol

    • @fp662
      @fp662 2 роки тому +3

      too much

    • @Skylul
      @Skylul 2 роки тому +1

      Bro how much time did this take you to write 💀

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 2 роки тому

      The only import engine in the world in the 5s is the 2JZ. Think about that!

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 2 роки тому

      @@Skylul He's a mawwwwrooon.

    • @allwayzactive4599
      @allwayzactive4599 2 роки тому

      Wow 😣 too much.... old always better

  • @ozmotorsports
    @ozmotorsports 2 роки тому

    New technology vs old technology plain and simple. You need to throw tons of mods to that 2jz to make it fast

  • @VashZayt-gx2ve
    @VashZayt-gx2ve Рік тому

    Supra supra supra!!!

  • @maddad9mil
    @maddad9mil 2 роки тому +6

    Homeboy spent a lot of money on that old school Supra to get whipped over and over by another Supra with way less HP. 🤷🏻‍♂️🔥💵

    • @maddad9mil
      @maddad9mil 2 роки тому

      @L W I did, but as much power as he’s making, it doesn’t put it down like it should. Not worth the money to me it seems.

  • @ao8271
    @ao8271 2 роки тому +5

    That mk4 is not making 700

    • @mjo7866
      @mjo7866 2 роки тому +1

      Tru it wasnt pulling as hard either

    • @Whifbitz
      @Whifbitz 2 роки тому

      No grip whatsoever with the poor track surface and it was pissing down with rain so couldn’t put any power down at all, the traction control was on constantly.

  • @asayoasayo5746
    @asayoasayo5746 Рік тому

    MK4 Supra jumped on the last two roll races. He was already in it when he approached the start line.

  • @pengkritik8564
    @pengkritik8564 Рік тому

    Lite "errr"😂

  • @victormwaba6688
    @victormwaba6688 2 роки тому +5

    700hp? Nah... Maybe 500

    • @gmain1977
      @gmain1977 2 роки тому

      It was damp , putting power down not same as dry but different factors come into it

    • @victormwaba6688
      @victormwaba6688 2 роки тому

      @@gmain1977 with that into consideration I would love to see a rematch with "favourable" conditions for the Mk4 but I reckon the result would be the same