Jackie explaining the weaponized incompetence phenomenon was so good. And Shayne immediately being like “so it’s a form of control” was spot-on; he’s a sharp one. But the outro LMFAOOOO I love y’all!
The thing that really gets me about the last guy is that he is willing to look at his girlfriend’s trauma and say, “but nothing happened.” Something *did* happen. Maybe it wasn’t SA, or hell, maybe it was. That can be very difficult to talk about and there’s a chance she just doesn’t feel comfortable bringing it up yet. The point is, she was cornered by a group of men, and was only able to escape after she kicked out a window. That is something. That is traumatic.
And I mean, I just don't see any scenario where she wasn't actually in danger, like a stupid prank taken way too far, because I can't think of a single good reason to have a bedroom you can't unlock from inside.
He seems completely unaware of how dangerous men are to women. They would have let her out if it was just a dumb prank or non-sinister. They had sinister intentions, they just didn't have follow-through to commit to whatever they planned before she got the heck out. She could have been murdered that day. She escaped a bad fate, but she still saw the evil intentions in others and the darkness of the fate they intended for her. That can be deeply scarring and shake your trust in humanity greatly.
I KNOW! this is the part that truly got me. something DID happen. she was held against her will in a room, and only got out by physically having to break a window? that is extremely scary and can be traumatizing.
the scary thing about the guy who wanted a darker child is that if his second child (baby #2) DID come out with darker skin, the favoritism he would show towards baby #2 with the resentment of his first child makes me think it's better off he doesn't go for another baby.
This. My grandma had a similar fetish but got 4 light skinned babies some of whom were white passing with a black man. Her favorite? The darkest one. Later with her grandchildren my cousin Crystal was her favorite as she was darker than her youngest, until I came along. For reference as a mixed person, I'm darker than fully black people. The way my grandmother doted on me (look I thought she treated all of them like she treated me) that it was so clear to everyone but me that I was her favorite. The amount of resentment her other grandchildren hold for her, they couldn't even care less when she died other than it was a loss for their mom.
Even if baby 2 had ANY “black” traits he would probably favor baby 2. And this gets even worse because he is right, those are more dominant traits, so he does have a decent chance at getting “what he’s looking for” in a mixed kid, the fact that he got a kid who looks “just like him” is already kindof a very specific dice roll that probably won’t happen twice. (although I theorize that the kid doesn’t actually look “just like him” he’s just also blonde haired, light skinned, and blue eyed, and that’s all he sees because thats “not what he wanted”) Typing this was honestly so distracting because it just felt gross to talk about a kid like that.
AND because he said his family talks about his baby having “the good genes” (white genes) they would likely favor baby1 over baby2 if baby2 was any more black phenotypically :/ neither of the kids would win
Jackie’s point about not congratulating dads for taking care of their kids is SO TRUE. My husband is in an incredibly father but the way he gets compliments for doing anything is insane. He gets stopped in public and told what I great dad he is for any and everything. Caring our daughter into a store. Pushing the stroller. Feeding our son a bottle. ANYTHING. No one has ever told me I’m such a great mom for caring a car seat but apparently that is TOP TIER behavior for dad.
My bestie is married to a man child. He thinks that working a 9-5 means he can come home to a cooked meal and not parent the kids, not touch laundry, not clean, etc. He goes to work, plays video games, and sleeps. I have no problem with video games and I play some myself, but it's the balance that is a big deal. If it interferes with the important stuff, then that's a problem. Both partners should be able to cook, clean, do laundry, and parent the kids, and I mean more than just yelling at them when they do something wrong. The bar is so far underground that it's melting.
I’ve always found it to be weird behavior. It’s the bare minimum, like a teacher teaching. Btw I think you’re doing great as a mom! It’s hard work raising a kid and to anyone who can do that I gotta support 🫡💕
Weaponized incompetence is an overused term. Some men really do crap out and claim they can't do it. Most of the time? It's just "it's done and that's what matters" conflicting with "it must be done to this exact specification in these exact ways." Men simply do a thing, do it perfectly well, and then get critiqued for it not being done a hyper specific way; in turn you realize there's no sense doing it so you just don't.
@@christopherreichle6670 I've never heard the term before, though it's perfect for what it represents. and it's not really as you've described it. especially if it's a task that's stereotypically "feminine", men will often just not want to do it and so will present themselves as incompetent at the task altogether in order to get out of doing it (bc of course their partner is going to want it done right and therefore do it themselves). I see this daily with my own male siblings.
@@registeredjopper im not saying what I'm saying happens IS weaponized incompetence. I'm saying what's happening is called that when it isn't. So like I do my own laundry. Don't fold half the shit, whatever gets folded is uneven and just done to shove shit in efficiently. That's enough for me - and it's gonna be the way I do it because that's literally getting the goal of laundry done. So if you tell me to do it but then go ahead and say I did it wrong I'm going to tell you: if you don't like the output do it ya damn self. Because guess what it's done and I'm not taking shit for you being picky AND not telling me the methodology you wanted performed. That's what's happening often. Men do a thing, get told they "did it wrong" even though it's done to what most would call a good quality and then give up. Really, the problem would go away if everyone - men and women - just started saying "if you don't like the way I do it when you ask me to, do it your own damn self because fuck you for being toxic."
@@christopherreichle6670 What you’re describing sounds partially like a form of learned helplessness. If someone is repeatedly discouraged or punished for doing something a certain way they might come to believe they can’t do that thing at all, and it’s not worth even trying. The outcome can be somewhat similar to weaponized incompetence, but like you mention they’re distinct in the motivation. Weaponized incompetence is about not having to put in any effort, while learned helplessness is about self doubt and resignation. There is also the less deep difference of standards and reluctance to change that are inherent in being different people. The key with overcoming the defensive reaction of “you do it then” is to get the other person to teach you how to do it differently, but only if they give you a valid reason for the change and clearly communicate their expectations. If you honestly put in full genuine effort for compromise and it’s still not good enough after that, they can do it themselves.
@@calmwaveofchaos1878 I'm still not even referring to that. I mean some people are such control freaks they'll have a fit if you don't use their method regardless of performance of either methods. Like they could have an objectively worse method and will be upset if it's not used or is barely objectively more satisfactory. For example: I don't fold my shirts. Never learned and frankly I hang them up - they're all graphic tees so chances are I'll waste effort since I'll have to thumb through them folded anyway. Just hang them up because I have space. If someone told me I should do it their way for no other reason than they believe it's better? Yeah no, they can do it then because my way is working fine for me.
it makes me so upset that so many guys don’t understand what it’s like when a friendship you think is treasured and cherished is ruined because the guy had ulterior motives
Indeed a lot of guys are like that. Labeling it the "friend zone" as if women knew all along the guy in said situation was doing friendly stuff because they wanted more out of it. To make a drawn out analogy it's like the Christian who presses belief in God because they don't want to go to hell not because they are practicing genuine morality. It's the same idea. Being a friend to a woman so you can go out with/sleep with her is not being a friend, it's being... well, predatory. They are people before they are women, and it's important to realize that most women will not like you like that. So be a friend, an actual friend. If feelings develop mutually well then cool but if they don't guess what? She's still a great friend! Never treat relationships as transactional.
Sometimes it's not ulterior motives Turns out when you spend a lot of time with someone you start to like them. If they're also your type incidentally, you're gonna like them a lot more. Isn't the first rule of a relationship being good friends? Best friends even? Like, that means you kinda need to start on the friendship level to begin with and then it becomes a relationship.
@@christopherreichle6670 yes i agree this is the case sometimes. it’s how i met my partner, lol. but it’s also how i’ve lost friends. what i’m saying is most girls or people who deal with what i’m talking about know that a lot of the time these guys don’t have those intentions. i swear we can sense it but we don’t wanna believe it. we wanna keep our friend but you can jus feel them wanting to you either leave your relationship or they’re only in it to date you. i’m talking about guys with ulterior motives, you’re talking about guys who won’t have those but develop feelings later. we’re talking about two different things.
Right , poor girl !! Ans she was so heartbroken I’m sure about her guy friend because he was probably the only guy she trusted and suddenly he was like everyone else wanting to make a move
I believe he found this out after talking with her because of her actions and he didn't know it before. I believe he wanted an explanation on WHY she was acting what he would consider to be abnormal.
I used to have a fairly large circle of people I considered friends. I can make friends with almost anyone, but since I was a tomboy growing up, I've always gotten along better with guys than with girls, so my friend circle was largely more male than female. Throughout middleschool and highschool, I enjoyed my circle of friends because the guys either saw me like a sister, or even better, just like "one of the guys". And I *loved* that. Since I only ever saw these guys as friends, I never had to worry about any of them trying to flirt with/at me or trying to make a move on me or anything. We could just hang out and it would be fun. Since my sophomore year of highschool, I'd dated ONE guy, and we eventually got engaged..... and then in early 2013, I lost him to a car accident that nearly killed us both. After barely a year, even several times SINCE that happened, several of my male friends have either flirted at me or hit on me, or tried to make moves on me. Apparently, me being engaged was the only thing that stopped them, but with that "obstacle" (as some guys so "charmingly" (not) referred to him) out of the way, they thought they suddenly had an opening. Several male friends suddenly told me they'd either had long-time crushes on me for years or said they'd been interested in me but didn't think I saw them that way, so they didn't say anything, but thought that might've suddenly changed. And because I still only saw them the same way I'd seen them for YEARS (as ONLY friends, and in some cases, close friends at that), I had to break more than a few ties because they couldn't accept the fact that I just wasn't interested in anything more than friendship. Needless to say, my friend circle is significantly smaller these days. I still have a few male friends that (thankfully) DON'T see me in a romantic light (being in happy relationships themselves already), and I'm trying to be more careful about the male friends I DO still have.
And the worst part for her was that he lied about being allergic to dogs like WHAT there was so much wrong with that guy and that's what she chose to be the angriest about
@@The_prophet_james_of_elia part of me wonders if maybe she had a dog that he forced her to get rid of because “he’s allergic” and she just forgot to mention it due to all the other things
Given her dad would do the same for her growing up and she likely got involved with her partner six years her senior as a seventeen year old, she likes to be nurtured. That’s why the sentiment of it all was so important for her. But yeah, her bf is predatory and definitely fiends off of making her feel stupid.
The last story is so sad. Doesn't matter if "nothing happened" that is SO scary to literally have to kick out a window to escape. Delete the whole boyfriend, and stay away from the entire friend group.
More than that - _something_ already HAD happened. You can't say "nothing actually happened" when that so-called "nothing" involved being locked in a room with a group of men, and having to kick out a window to escape. JUST that alone is traumatising as all-hell for anyone, let alone a lone vulnerable woman! Her mind would have been screaming at her that she was about to be violently assualted sexually - and that her life was absolutely on the line here. I honestly do _not_ blame her one bit for having that attitude towards and around men after such a horrific event. I _will_ say that for her own peace of mind and ability to continue functioning and not to do something ultimately permanent to solve those fears, she _needs_ to go to a therapist who is trained to deal with such situations. Otherwise it will eat her up and eventually destroy her.
@@DavidStruveDesigns i wholeheartedly agree with you. I would also like to add my own personal experience into this- this woman may also not be straight. I had a deep seeded fear of men myself, even tho I was able to maintain boyfriends and a healthy bedroom life with the guys I was with. I was still terrified of all men but my bf, but after I started trying out the other team I realized that I was actually gay. I stopped having a fear of men after that because I no longer felt pressure to have sex with them. I’m not saying she doesn’t have trauma, but I wonder if maybe there is some complexity to this as well, perhaps with her sexuality .
@@DavidStruveDesigns Eh, she does not need therapy for a VERY normal reaction to a boyfriend who actively ignores her safety concerns. It is very very normal as a woman to not want to spend a few days with only men you may or may not know. That's literally what women are told from the age of 5 to not ever do. His friends hit on her, while she was dating him, these guys hit on their friend's girlfriend. WTAF? I would not want to know these guys either. They do not respect her or her relationship, why would she want to spend time with them at all? She dropped a guy who she thought was a friend, but turns out he was just putting her in the f*ckzone. That is a normal reaction to finding out that someone you though was a friend actually wanted to date you. Why should she hang out with people she is not friends with, who want to date/f*ck her, and she is in no way interested in them? None of this is abnormal behaviour. The trauma of being almost SA-ed is bad, sure, but honestly, her behaviour does not hint at any past trauma. It just makes his behaviour 100x worse.
@@AnnekeOosterink I totally agree with you. I'm not saying anything to the contrary. With the exception of therapy - I wasn't inferring she needed therapy for her reaction to her boyfriend, I'm saying it's probably a good idea to go for therapy after the incredibly traumatic event that happened prior to that - the locked room incident. I have personal experience of what it's like to try and bottle up things and not talk them out with someone, and it has a bad habit of messing you up even more to bottle it up. And it will taint _all_ your future interactions as a result. She has all the signs of someone still affected by that trauma, yes her reactions are understandable but they _are_ being inflated and made more extreme by those past traumas in my opinion and I think for her sake she would benefit from therapy. Then again I think most people could benefit from having a therapist, even if it's only to have an outlet about day-to-day stressful stuff. It's good for your mental health to have one in my personal opinon.
@@AnnekeOosterink the therapy was for the trauma she went to. But it would also be completely valid to seek therapy for an experience w such a psycho partner.
I'm so impressed by the pokedex, cultural food and misandry guys, like how can they actually not only experience this, but also sit down and write it down, re-experiencing it for, like, 20 or so minutes and STILL think "Hm, my gf got physically attacked but I don't like her food that she only makes for herself after spending time and money on food for me, I'm obviously in the right here"
fr 😭😭 and he got on her for not getting enough protein while she was literally eating yogurt which is a great source of protein, being dumb enough to think meat is the only way to get protein while saying youre just “stating the facts” is utterly baffling. some ppl are so dumb they cant even recognize how dumb they are.
Its so nice to see that people immediately recognize some of these age gap relationships for what they are now. 10 years ago, I had a 20+ y/o friend who I went no contact with because he started dating a 15 y/o girl. I thought i was going nuts, because everyone told me i was an ass for being so "judgemental" about the relationship. It honestly still haunts me to think that so many people were enabling that.
Yeah, 35 and 30 isn’t that big of a difference, but when you look at the difference between a 15 year old and a 10 year old suddenly you can see just how much difference 5 years makes. 20 and 15 is definitely weird.
i feel you. a guy in my highschool friend group got kicked out of the discord group chat for dating a 15 year old when he was 19. not *quite* as bad as an age gap of 5+ years, but definitely iffy, yknow?
Totally! When I was 14 and stupid I dated a 19 year old. Now I'm 17 and even the idea of me dating a 14 year old sounds so gross and creepy. I can't imagine what was going on in that guy's head to make him think that situation was okay.
Not Creepy: keeping notes on what people in your life like so that when they come over you can feed them food they like and buy them good gifts Creepy: Calling it a Pokedex, Referring to adding notes as "catching" a woman, Sharing it with randos/crowdsourcing it, an entire Fraternity knowing everything about you before you even go on a date with them
This is exactly my take. I think most people can agree that remembering details about one another is endearing and demonstrating that is an aspect of building up relationships with others. Detailing these things in written form isn't much different and considering that particularly creepy would be strange. But sharing information about other people to those who aren't already privy is in most circumstances a violation of trust between you and that person, and dives straight into scummy behavior when that list seems to serve the purpose of manipulation.
To be fair- who would want to be open minded to men who arent open minded themselves by objectifying women and literally telling them that theyre cultural food is gross and unhealthy
As a woman, listening to the “misandrist” story was so sad. She obv has trauma from men. The incident with the male friend was so sad bro, a lot of women unfortunately experience that with almost every friendship they have with a man. She should break up with him and find someone who understands her fr
yea, that was funny. it's also like. why does the names you are called by people who don't even know your face or name on a forum that you could simply choose to ignore affect your relationship? like, yeah, posting that in itself might feel like a betrayal of trust - wonder how she felt when you told her you continuously haven't done the thing you agreed to do for her. but also, shouldn't her posting it be the concern, rather than strangers now insulting you as far from to-your-face as is possible in a public space? unless he minds them putting ideas in his girlfriend's head bc it makes her harder to control... which would mean he's *gasp* a predator!
It is not the first time white westerners projecting their unhealthy eating habit onto non-white people and non-westerners. It is not to say “non-white” (mind the air quote) and non-western foods are 100% healthy. But, come on: western cuisines are known for their dependence on meat and grease for flavours.
And I'm sure she's tired of his unhealthy treatment towards her that is in no way good for her mental health . But he's more concerned about too much yogurt... bruh . He sounds exhausting and his lack of effort to care for her or put into the relationship or even simply appreciate all she does for him, insanity .
@@KellyKnowlesArt I think she just added saffron to the rice (which barely affects the taste) or it was some pickled vegetable either way him refering to it as "too much yellow" not even knowing what it's called or what it is or caring to know her culture is so childish and ignorant in both language and behaviour.
Jackie is the PERFECT person to react to these! Her brand of kind of petty/catty sass just works soooo well with the subject matter. And GOD did she nail the ending and absolutely obliterate Shayne. I also appreciate that they didn't back off from tackling some of the deeper subjects stemming from these stories. Like I wasn't expecting a SINCERE breakdown of weaponized incompetence but I love that we got it.
@@asmagedi414 you're absolutely correct, I didn't think about how that comment would read- it was really just me trying to describe that particular brand/tone of zero BS that Jackie's humour has that I love soooo much. It's the bite with which she delivers such pin point accurate appraisals that is sooo fitting for this format. I wasn't trying to *just* say that she was funny but soooo much more that that, however I didn't think through my choice of words in doing so concisely- I honestly appreciate being called out on it. Thank you.
@Kitty Mewes no, they're not right. She's a black woman, yes, and she's also petty and catty with her humor. Those two facts are separate. Her humor is great and is unrelated to her being black. This is crazy to hear, but skin color kinda really doesn't matter in any way, especially in a situation like this. Her humor is born from her personality.
The first story just killed my soul... That man doesn't deserve to have a partner, the level of disrespect he had for the cat and his partner is insane. If you love someone you don't destroy the things that person loves just cause its inconvenient for you... I just can't believe it... i feel so sad for the cat left at the shelter, he was taken away from his house by a complete monster.
Ah yes because cats can't have behavioral issues and people who don't like to put up with that are the devil!! Yeah he should have just broken up with her instead of doing what he did, but I get real tired of "bleeding heart" animal lovers that don't want to admit that animals can have issues and that there isn't a severe pet overpopulation issue.
@@TheTotalgamergirlthe thing abt behavioral issues tho is that they CAN be fixed if you put in the effort. That cat in that shelter was probably scared shitless because some asshole couldn’t fucking man up. cats scratch get over it if u don’t fucking like it don’t get with someone who has a cat in the first place.
@@TheTotalgamergirlSo can humans. Which shelter should I dropp you off at? I'll check in 6 years to make sure it's a no kill. Oh and of course I will get a look alike so your parents don't notice.
Jackie: “You don’t have to go to the comments, what’s 20 minus 3 Shayne?” Shayne: *struggling* Jackie: “WELCOME TO BEOPARDY what is it Shayne” Im crying real tears 😭😭😭😭😭😭
She technically said ALMOST 3 years and she might have had her birthday like a month after posting it or sth. Even if 18 and 23 is still pretty far apart.
Idk if the Appropriate Age For Dating formula has changed since I was a yung'un, but afaik it's 1/2+7. So if he was 23, his appropriate ranged should have been 11+7, or 18. She is just barely in range NOW that he's 26, as 13+7 is 20, but he should not have been cradle robbing when they met.
agree but with the distant honorable mention of damien after several red bulls in any given episode of hacking off. but yeah she established that dynamic their first tntl and apparently he's into that dynamic with jackie bc it never changed she's just been slowly ramping it up since quarantine.
@@tdarkhorse4 Idea: reddit video with damien and shayne on the couch and Jackie reads the stories (or jackie and damien on the couch and shayne reads the stories)
So the guy with the Pakistani ex gf. He's telling her to leave her job and what to eat while 1. Living of her rent-free 2. Not offering for her to stay with him in his new apartment while looking for another job 3. Not buying good food and cooking it for her 4. Wants her to cook for him after she's attacked at work. 5. Only calling her because he doesnt want to stay with his mom. What a keeper
Obsessed with the dynamic between these three, it was so fun! as a long time black fan of smosh, Jackie has done a good job of having more black people in the room and fronting the black experience with their conversations, and I actually love how Shayne is able to work with her in contrast and recognize the humour in being a white guy. I love everyone at Smosh, but knowing Kiana is behind the camera I’d love to see more content where black cast, crew, and guests come together.
So many issues here (SO MANY) but somehow the biggest thing that got me about the last guy is how comfortable he felt sharing her personal trauma story (that she did not tell him until years into the relationship with direct prompting). This man will turn out the darkest moments of your life to strangers on the internet, all in the hopes that they’ll comfort him and say he wasn’t in the wrong. The nerve. The complete lack of basic human compassion. Baby he is a dog and he doesn’t even deserve your table scraps
Dogs are infinitely better than this guy. HOLY shit what a complete and utter asshole. He fully refuses to see things from someone else's point of view. Like, he does not want to be empathetic.
@@GuyWithoutPitchits not though. Dogs whether they act good or bad are not incredibly intelligent. They do not know concepts like wrong and right. They are loyal to awful people bc their brains are the size of your kneecap. Men are aware in this day and age they need to change and take steps towards that. Yet most of them do not because being uncomfortable isnt in their own self interest. Hell even my husband prefers dogs over men
Facts 🤣🤣 I bet she also added those "EDITS" when she noticed the initial comments unfavors her side.. like she mentioned everything was GOOD until that incident.. suddenly you bombard tons of "edits" unfavoring him lmao Youre the one Power Tripping "Tomato essense pasta girl" i bet youre as Manipulative irl as well Whole situation was like boohoooo he didnt make yo pasta the way you want it.. the host is right "she only liked the IDEA of it" but for that small incident youre willing to let go of that "Good Relationship" you had? You were living together for years. even mentioned you had good dynamic together. You had all chores split 50 50 and he's been cooking for YOU the whole time and you LIKED IT!
Situation was a bit similar to the Cat guy.. like they been fooling their partners into liking something thats actually different? But Cat guy traded away Cat's LIFE.. and in Tomato essense Pasta girl situation, the Guy traded away a "RECIPE"... like Girl... cant you just call it a day and say You liked your Dad's pasta.. and you liked your Boyfriend's pasta? FINE.. he been lyin to you about the effin "Cooking method" but an apology for that should suffice
@@spelwurdsrite6756 I think she's definitely stupid and probably has never had a real struggle in her life, but the guy is also a beacon of red flags. They started dating either when she was 17 or 18, probably still in high school or freshly out of it. He lied about his LITERAL JOB and CHEATED on her multiple times. Her food preferences are pretty childish, but it's also a preference (even though it's clear she can't tell the difference from plain spaghetti) and if he insisted on cooking then he should respect that or tell her so she'll make it herself. And if she never noticed the difference, why tell her? just to make her look stupid? to purposely upset her? it feels kinda malicious. they're both annoying in thr situation, and let's not act like she's the root of the problem
"he made a move on her" followed by "FOR SOME REASON she was offended and even hurt" is a fucking WILD thing to say this man is so fucking emotionally dense it's like he's never talked to another woman aside from his wife or fucking tried to empathise with them for a single moment
Pokédex guy essentially made It easy for men in his frat to manipulate women into sleeping with them. Now the men don’t have to put forth any real effort and can deceive the women into thinking they’re compatible. How is he so freaking BLIND to that?
I have chronic memory loss and adhd. while what it resulted in is wrong many people with these issues do not understand the consequences. Many people see our list making as open access sense we tend to forget which people we can’t share secrets with. It probably started out as innocent and he only thought others adding to it would make his job easier. I’ve been used in a similar way. While this may not be the case it’s a possibility that should be considered and I hope he realized the dangers and took it down.
@@moonlightwolfling6374 if someone with memory loss issues made a list for PEOPLE they knew, not just WOMEN they were interested in, okay cool. Totally useful. That would be a tool exclusively for their sole use though. There would be no reason to share that with others who do not share that issue. The fact this list was made for a specific purpose and passed around speaks to intent, in my opinion.
@@moonlightwolfling6374 I have both adhd and chronic memory loss and I have never ever created a list where other people can read it, especially with private personal info. It is not an "innocent list" if you can weaponise it.
my least favorite part of the “unhealthy” girlfriend is that the boyfriend talks about how she works a demanding job, and is too tired to make herself food ( even though she does). have you made food for her? have you offered? i’m sure she isn’t repulsed by your ‘normal’ food. wtf is wrong with you
THIS! I completely agree with you, if he would really be worried about her he could have at least tried to cook her something or ask her what she would like to eat.
@@Mimickolas but you're not presenting it as a sexuality exploration, you're showing it off as a choice in order to avoid weirdos. I'd be wary of that type of perception. homosexuality is not something one can choose, because it's not something we can just decide to get rid of. please be careful.
@@vubevube that age difference isn’t bad when you’re both older. the reason it’s creepy is because this college-aged man was dating a MINOR. at that age, the difference in maturity is too stark and makes it easier for power imbalances and taking advantage of her.
@@certifiednerd542 but then there is a different variable involved. If the guy is a douche or not. If he is he will abuse the freedom and the age advantage. However the age difference on it's own doesn't automatically imply every guy will abuse it.
Bro that description of cultural food took me out, I'm Bengali Indian and we have a lot of similar foodstuff so I can tell you this much: the food described is benign af. The yoghurt with cucumbers etc is just Raayeta/raayita, often eaten as a side condiment for rice/biryani type dishes. I don't personally like to mix stuff with my sour curd or yoghurt but I love rice with yoghurt just on its own. Doi-bhaat, we call it, sometimes with। alil sweetener. The yellow stuff is turmeric probably, it's onw of our staple spices and I will take no turmeric slander from a pansy white man whose ancestors killed us for those spices and then forgot to ask us how to actually use them to cook. Mf got some audacity.
Bangladeshi here, and Didi, the sentence "I will take no turmeric slander from a pansy white man whose ancestors killed us for those spices and then forgot to ask us how to actually use them to cook." took me outttt
Imagine actually being like "I don't understand why this woman who almost got gangr*ped doesn't wanna be alone with a group of men or around men she doesn't know" boy I hope she's left that dude
my two cents on the whole pasta thing- it’s not the fact that he didn’t make her pasta how she liked it. it’s the fact that he knew about her pickiness (even going as far as telling her it was cute to validate it and give her false security in the relationship) to then reveal that for three YEARS he’s been lying to her about it- and he LAUGHS when he tells her, which completely excuses her feelings by acting like how she feels doesn’t matter. he lied and did what was convenient for him for literal years, then acted like it was funny because he didn’t really take her wants or needs seriously at all. the breach of trust is a crazy red flag for me, the way he built a false security in the relationship that he didn’t mean at all
Him taking a moment to do the math was making me yell 😂 i was like HOLD UP WHAT and i was waitinf for someone to say “well first let’s talk abt how youve been groomed”
As someone who's experienced many traumas linked to men I feel so bad for the last girl and I really hope she leaves her bf cause it really seems like he doesn't care about her safety. It really seems like his friends make her feel unsafe.
The moment I heard that comment about how women "usually want to keep them around" in response to her distancing herself from guys that flirt or confess to her, I immediately thought "he's an 'alpha male' prescribing incel". It's a common belief in the 'alpha male''/incel social circles that women like to keep "simps" and "beta orbiters" around them for constant attention and validation. That's exactly what he was talking about and just refrained from directly using the terms to avoid people calling him out for it. He wants her to have these "beta orbiters" , make his friends snacks and come on trips with his male relatives so he can use her as a prop to look like an 'alpha male'.
He never saw the problem with one girl being stuck with his all male family members in a cabin in the woods. That's somewhat of a red flag. There was zero empathy
@@bubonic019 Like I'm a woman who thankfully has not experienced any male-related trauma, and even I wouldn't want to spend a weekend in the woods with a bunch of dudes. At BEST it's going to smell awful and be unpleasant the whole time. And you just know that dude would expect her to be the one cooking for all of them, too.
I'm really wondering how they got to be together. Was he playing a power move, considering their age at the time? This circumstance really says something when/if he's the only guy she has been with if she's rejected everyone else.
That last girl probably went through something extremely traumatic with a man and now has extreme PTSD and is trying her best to hide it. I hope she's ok and breaks up with her boyfriend that only get frustrated with her not acting the way he wants to instead of wondering what happened to make her so afraid of men
A friend of mine has struggle to remember little details, so he keeps notes on what his girlfriend tells him, which I think is really cute. So I can understand where the idea came from, to note down information about people you talk to, to not forget what they like (if you have a memory issue like my friend does) but the moment you start sharing this information it becomes really, really weird.
That was hands down, HANDS DOWN, the greatest smoothest outro on UA-cam in existence. Can't wait for the next reddit stories where it's just Jackie's takedown of Shayne
@@FroggyGizmo your comment 🤣 But for real it seems she gets the ~EsSeNcE~ simply from smelling the sauce being cooked. No need to waste sauce by rinsing it off lol.
I think the part about guy lying that he is allergic to dogs being "the worst" might be because she had a dog and he told her to get rid of it? Thats why it was the worst for her.
This is the BEST dynamic. Shayne quietly reading the posts out and Jackie and Mac are trying so hard not to burst out with how crazy and ridiculous these people are. I want a thousand more videos like this. Jackie brings the perfect mix of roasts and theory to these reddit videos and it plays so well of Shayne's psychologist-like way of reading the posts. Please upload more of these!
@@shizar998 not his cat though, It was his girlfriend’s. And it scratched him on the first day he was supposed to take of it which was his last straw. Plus, he didn’t even live with her at the time. He basically broke into her house (since he was allowed entrance without her there to feed the cat, not for any other given reason) and stole her pet and left it somewhere to possibly die - all without her permission.
@@noiwont4061 Yeah, but that's not the point really, they're pointing out that she's saying he met the cat once and took it to a shelter he didn't know about -- he said 6 years in total, married four, and they'd been together for a while, then checked to see if the shelter was STILL a no kill shelter. So yeah, still shitty moves, but she's getting irritated at "facts" that weren't there lol.
@@oduinn7948 yeah but he corrected her saying “he knew the cat a bunch, but went over there one night to babysit and the cat scratched him “ and she is right about the cat probably being euthanized because even no kill shelters transfer animals to kill shelters when they have no hope of being adopted
As a white passing mixed person - the story about the father wanting an evidently mixed child was sad. Mixed people already have enough identity issues. This man’s fetish is going to hurt his kid
There’s SO many ways mixed kids turn out. When he said you know exactly how they look….I was like…mmm white people that aren’t exposed to enough mixed people think that. People can have two dark skinned parents and come out light with light brown eyes. POC know there is no guarantee, mixed or otherwise.
Its so true - black cats get left behind alot - the only time ive ever seen so many get adopted was when Sabrina came out on Netflix bc everyone wanted their own Salem
@@moonlightwolfling6374 pasta that once had sauce on it, but now doesn't = pasta that never had sauce on it. it's the same thing. I agree that if he hid ingredients she specifically didn't like in her food, that would be an AH move, but he just skipped an unnecessary step she could easily do herself.
As a parent of a fussy kid I bet you anything her dad was serving her the plain noodles all those years and telling her he washed the sauce off. Nobody has time for that. Her boyfriend is still the A for the weaponised air quotes though.
@@humanname99 he didnt *want* her to do it herself because it was a straight up power trip. That's why he insisted on handling everything to do with the cooking, so he could control what she was eating while pretending to respect her wishes and find her (admittedly childish) eating habits cute
@@Dave-cw2mj then just don't put the sauce on the pasta. I'm also on the spectrum and if I don't think I'll be able to eat something that acidic, I just put butter on the pasta or eat something else.
On weaponized incompetence- my mom was once shocked because I successfully taught my stepdad to cook a very basic meal and he did it correctly. It’s because unlike her, I won’t let him out of the situation! He should be able to cook pasta and a cream sauce easily, but she always takes over the second he feigns incompetence. I have direct instructions, set up the ingredients, and left him there to cook while I walked the dog with the clear expectation that when I returned there would be dinner on the table. An expectation placed on my mother and I almost every day.
Honestly this is insane to me. My mom has stepped in on things in order to do them “the right way” so many times in my life, I’ve actually gotten upset at her and said “LET ME MAKE MISTAKES!!” Because sure, I may actually be incompetent, but I’m going to try anyway because I want to learn so I can eventually be competent. It’s crazy to me that some people do the opposite and try to get people to take over for them
As a woman being hit on by men since my 12th... i don't like men in my home. Me being alone with men is scary and i just don't like it. It's always like... what if they do anything again? I need to trust men. But you never know when you get the poisoned skittle out of the bag full of mixed skittles.
That's sincerely unfortunate but completely understandable apprehension. As a man I have no room to really say anything regarding your experiences. What I can say is we men have a lot of social conditioning to deconstruct and rebuild so that we are not passing on our own trauma to others.
The cultural food one reminds me of this other reddit post where this guy's girlfriend would come over to his apartment one night a week with groceries that she bought and cook for him. She was Mexican and would make him those types of dishes. He ranted about how unhealthy it was. This guy didn't cook at all and would only eat frozen tv dinners and fast food when his girlfriend didn't cook for him, yet he called all homemade Mexican food unhealthy.
right this man is smashing taco bell 3 meals a day but when his mexican gf makes real authetic food for him he calls it sh*t because he IS a POS. the absolute nerve of these guys. this is why women give up on dating for months or years at a time - you get one of these psychos and it puts you off people for a long period of time
If someone did that to my cat I would DESTROY his life. That is a serious betrayal and so cruel. Revenge would be secret and slow, irreversible, and devastating. I’m not a person anyone would suspect this from, but I would defend pets, children, the vulnerable to the max degree. Man would have f*****d around and found out.
It’s definitely a fetishization of black people/culture. It’s similar to when straight guys fetishize lesbian woman. He wanted his son to be black because he wants to be black.
Yeah, and his "I don't treat my child badly" bit sounds suspicious as hell tbh. He is so blind to his own damn fetish that I can totally see that he'd not even notice his behaviour towards his child. Like, there was this other post that went viral about the guy who thought his wife had cheated on him because one of their children looked more like her than him. It was his child, she divorced him and the child he claims he did not treat any differently from the other children refuses to talk to him.
With the Pokédex one, the fact that when he found out someone in the frat told one of the girls about it, he just immediately assumed it was because he was a simp and not because he felt bad for the girl lmao
so are we going to point out the fact that the man from the 4th story said he had to live with his girlfriend rent free because he had nowhere else to go despite the fact he 100% could've lived with his mom from the beginning who I'm sure would have loved to let him live with her rent free because he gives off the vibes of someone who's been coddled his entire life and wouldn't know a bad day if it shit on him
Her reactions sound like something did happen. As a survivor, it took me years to feel comfortable around people. Men still scare me and wanting only women to do things for you makes so much sense.
23:13 Sorry… but since you aren’t paying rent and NOT paying for groceries, COOK HER A GOOD DING DANG MEAL!!! That’s what my dad did for my mom when she got home before him, and vise-versa when his hours changed!!! How?? Lord have mercy…
Just because that guy wasn't using his creepy "pokèdex" of women for scumbag reasons, doesn't mean other guys weren't using it for scumbag reasons. He had a list of places the women liked, that means they frequented those places and any guy could try to harass or follow a girl home from those places!🤮😱
He was definately using it for sex. If you like/love a woman, you will remember her details. Because it's ONE woman. You focus on her. But he wanted to remember details of SEVERAL women. Spreading his net out. That's for flicking.
i would say that using a girldex to "impress girls on dates" IS a scumbag reason. like... what do they honestly think they're trying to get out of impressing these girls? a relationship? sex? it's super gross and creepy and predatory
*It wasn’t really a causal list of places they liked (everyday places) it was places to take women on dates to impress them. I like Olive Garden but I’m not always there. Somebody hypothetically using the rolodex for stalking is unlikely and inconsequential imo because a stalkers will find you every and anywhere. None of the girls complained about being stalked either I think that would’ve been mentioned when everything blew up. That was the least evil thing out of this list to me 🤷🏽♀️ Wow he knows my favorite color and where I like to eat! Doesn’t make me want to sleep with him!
I feel like every flaw the spaghetti girl has can be explained by the fact that her frontal lobe hasn’t developed yet. That dude’s frontal lobe is FULLY INTACT and he’s acting like this.
EXACTLY my thoughts. like he is dating a CHILD. of course she's upset about these things, someone her age is usually still at home nagging their parents. and the fact she left home to leave alone and be independent with her parents money and HE IS LIVING OFF OF THAT?!? parents buying their children apartments? 100% yes. but a predatory bf also taking advantage of her financially? this cannot be any worse...
@@noone-gf5op yeah, except she’s just not a child. Once you’re 18, you can no longer use the “i’m just a child” defense. You’re old enough to drive, work, have sex, gamble, join the military, own a firearm, leave your parents, get married, etc. you don’t get this double standard where you’re allowed to do all these things that are meant for adults, but you can always fall back on your age and use it as a shield. She’s not naïve because she’s young, she’s naïve because she’s sheltered.
Yeah but come on now, ur 20 if you like ur food a made a different way why not make it yourself? He's a predator and she's a child who obviously is used to getting her way.
@@coasterthekid8867 what makes someone an adult at 18? arbitrary legal shit. she's still an adolescent in terms of psychosocial development. he's a grown ass man. that's gross.
@@superzooperhaze6597 so you believe that someone’s not an adult until their brain fully finishes developing? Is that right? So you think people shouldn’t be able to drive, have sex, drink, do drugs, or be autonomous until they’re 26? Because the number 18 isn’t arbitrary, it’s where we as a society have decided that your brain is developed enough to make your own choices. If you’re calling that arbitrary than any number before when your brain is fully developed, would also be arbitrary using your logic. So now I’m curious, when do you think people are adults that can make their own decisions? Because I’m 19 and I’m quite happy being able to make choices for myself and not legally belong to my parents. I like being able to sleep with older people and have full control over my body. But you dislike that so you undermine my ability to make decisions and say that the people I’m attracted to are gross. You’re the fucking asshole.
The writer of the Pokédex story revealed what the true intentions of the list was the second he said “some guy who SIMPED for her” after saying that the WHOLE reason for making this was to help guys get girls into them, have fun dates, and CONNECTING WITH THEM!! It’s so painfully obvious this was a way just to hookup with the hot chicks on campus after a date or two. This is some registry level shit he tried to pass off as something innocent 😂😂 childish
as a blk person and hearing the one about the white dude and his biracial soon threw me for a LOOP. like i keep cackling because of jackie and mac’s reaction.
Shayne turning into a concerned dad the literal second he realized the girl was 17 when she and her bf started dating. 🤣😅 (But honestly, didn't we all?)
I’m a cook and I was getting mad at the girl for the spaghetti thing so I paused and was like “how could a 24 year old man date a 18 year old with the palate of a middle schooler for 2 years without feeling weird about it” then i unpaused and it was the we’ve been dating for 3 years part and it just clicked “that’s one more year than my my legal estimate of- oh my god that’s why”
For the Man-Hating Girlfriend, maybe his 'fantasy' is for her to "let these guys hit on her" so he can come and be her "protective boyfriend" and make himself feel good in that way. Idk. It's just all weird. If these guys are asking themselves AITA? Well, yes. There is a reason you're asking yourself that. Unbelievable 💀
OR equally gross, he wants her to politely turn them down because she has a “better option” at home, because he sees these nice men asking her out and he wants to flatter his own ego that she is constantly choosing him.
That has to be it, right? She tells him that most of his friends have tried to get her to cheat on him with them, and he's mad _at her_ because she doesn't feel comfortable hanging out with them?? Like, it's either he wants to be her white knight, or he actively _wants_ her to cheat on him for whatever reason... Those are the only explanations I can think of. Dude is fucking weird.
@@tra12048 And throw in the fact that she was locked up and only escaped being SA-ed and maybe murdered because she broke a window and jumped out, and he blithely shares her trauma on the internet... YIKES.
I was angry at the food one, cause he’s so fucking full of himself he doesn’t even know how to treat another human with respect and empathy. But the last one made my blood run cold. The fact that neither him nor any of his friends even entertained the idea that she might have trauma that lead to the behavior is just so disheartening. And her being upset that someone she thought was a close friend betrayed her is absolutely justified. Women (and afabs in general) grow up learning that they are never safe, and men don’t even have a clue. I’m tired.
I was thinking the same. It'd be different to me if she had walked in and saw he didn't do the pasta her way, and he was apologetic, explaining why he does it that way. Instead he used it as a tool to belittle her
The cat story literally horrified me and made me so sad! If my partner were to ever swap one of my cats--of which I currently have three--I would feel so betrayed and depressed. I love my fur babies and losing them would be awful. I would still keep the new cat as well, though.
He'd be out of my life faster than he can run for sure. What the hell??? Poor cats. There's always a reason for undesirable behaviour. I hope the wife finds out and hell rains on this guy.
@stephr2980 The cat knew he was an ass from the start and that's why he was aggressive towards him is what I think. Animals can sense things about people, ya know. And yes, if a pet acts a certain way there's a reason, whether sick or scared, etc, there's a reason. I have two cats that are mine and two strays from a feral colony that show up for food daily. I love cats, too and highly agree with you.
Jacklyn's reactions to the "Unhealthy" Girlfriend story were the representation of how I felt inside hearing it too. And the "I can not deal with these men" is a mood for most of the episode!
yeah, maybe it would've been weird if she demanded he do everything for her always but being "assigned" chores and having an agreement beforehand then lying about it...
For the second story, I would have understood it as someone who needs to write things down to remember stuff. I've not had that issue with people I care about, but everyone is different. As it went on they have to understand how dehumanising it seemed to be put in a spreadsheet full of information about you like a creature so that other guys could have your guard down a bit easier. Even if you don't want to admit how it looks predatory, the least you could do is admit that it's dehumanising. YOU LITERALLY CALLED IT A POKEKDEX!
The College Pokédex started off okay, I forget a lot too so it makes sense for me to write down things they like. But SHARING it with others??? AND denying it’s a hookup guide??? It got creepy fast
What if he didn't write it down but told everyone in his fraternity everything none sensible about all the girls he know. Things like favourite food, color and so on. Would that be OK? What if he only told his close friends, would that be OK? As far as I know the "PokeDex" does not contain addresses or phone numbers, just preferences!
@@floend4810did you forget about the part that he was sharing that info as a guide to impress the women mentioned better? And also the fact he literally described it as a Pokedex and such? You are skimming over the important stuff that makes it way more weird
That man let his gf who got attacked at work cook while crying and also insulted her culture and didn't show any compassion for her struggles and suggested she should "just leave". WOW he's awful
32:46 i really like the domino sequence of the deafening silence, Jackie’s comment and then EVERYONE just busts out laughing i love that. The chemistry between the ppl on and offscreen here is stellar and knowing Kiana is behind the camera most likely replicating Jackie’s energy is hilarious and heartwarming to me.
Lmao the spaghetti thing probably worked because she was eating noodles and could smell the pasta sauce in the air. That’s literally all you need for tomato “essence” so he did that part right imo. Otherwise the whole thing was rough lol
people being like “I hope that last girl gets the help she needs” but I’ve never had any extremely poor experiences with men and all of her reactions are entirely normal and reasonable.
I mean everyone always tells you to be cautious but you think nothing bad will ACTUALLY happen until it does. The first time I got aggressively hit on I was literally 13/14 while the guy was at least 18 and I had no idea what to do since no one has ever hit on me before. It was on a dark, desolate road, he kept asking for my number and I just kept declining nicely even though it clearly didn't work. Finally i gave him my info, then he hugged me and didn't want to let go and I just let him do whatever he wanted cause I was so desperate to leave. Five years and dozens similar experiences later there's no force on this earth that would make me stop if a creepy guy asked for my number. Her behavior is not weird, they WILL NOT leave you alone unless you respond with the same energy they're giving you. Her boyfriend should be glad he doesn't have to worry about this for himself
Agreeed. I have had shitty situations with men but even before them I was very cautious. It isn’t fun and it isn’t like we want to do it but we live in this world
the first time I remember being hit on was when I was 14 too, the men who were hitting on me were probably 60+ though. It happened while I was just trying to work at my first job. Fortunately I worked with my older sister, and even if she wasn't working with me my coworkers would let me hide in the back until the creeps left (most of my job was back there anyways).
I'm sure the guy who made the "Pokedex" genuinely believes what he's doing isn't creepy, which makes it kind of hilarious that it's as creepy as it is.
As a person who also can't remember shit about people (sometimes even my close relatives), I understand the rationale of making the "Pokedex" but to share it with others was such a big no-no.
@@mrcy9307 the thing is I think we both can see how this happens, like i write notes on my friends att just randomly. Like birthdays are a must, and then your buddy is like "oh when's sarah's birthday" and you say give me a sec and look at what you wrote down cause sarah is your friend. Your friend asks what that is and you show him, now it just spirals out of control. Reminds me of a Zoey 101 episode
@@wanderingrogue3039 I 100% agree!!! Like I remember making lists of things my crushes liked or things about my crushes but it was always in my private journal. Though tbh when I start dating again I might make little spreadsheets. I get dating app guys mixed up all the time like which person has which job, hobbies, etc.
I need that video about Shayne’s weaponized incompetence 😂😂😂 his horrified look of realization was SO INTENSE!! He felt so betrayed by himself! I love how much of an ally he wants to be.
Okay so, pasta story: One of the things about neurodivergence -- not always, but a pretty common one -- is sensitivity or extreme aversion to certain textures when it comes to food. Learned this while getting tested for being on the spectrum in my mid-20s. I've been called a picky eater for most of my life, because I have developed a certain set of foods I trust to _not_ have those textures I'm averse to. It has nothing to do with flavor. Something like pizza is always a gamble, because one of those textures for me (like with OP) is an overabundance of marinara sauce; a minor difference in the amount of sauce used will *taste* virtually the same, but if a slice is leaking marinara on each bite, the pizza feels all squishy like someone just piled a layer of slime inside and it almost completely shuts off my sense of taste to magnify the physical _wet_ sensation on my tongue like I'm slurping up someone else's spit and it _makes me want to die._ Though I don't have it with pasta the way they do, so, different strokes. Just saying I see an angle they might be coming from. ... But anyway, if I had a particular way I liked the sauce on pasta dealt with as an adult, I'd just handle adding and washing the sauce off myself. Oh wow I really wrote all this out before hearing about them dating for 3 years the fuck.
Thanks to Jackie for teaching me the words "weaponized incompetence." One of my ex's would do stuff like load the dishwasher with all the cups and bowls facing up so the dirty water just pooled in them and dry everything on low heat and delicate then leave it damp in the dryer until it reaked of mildew. The most egregious example was when he'd ask me to make sushi when I got home from work and all I asked was for him to rinse the rice for me, gave him detailed instructions on it (I know, I know, how is "rinse the rice" not instructions in and of itself, but he insisted he didn't know how, so I had to step by step explain it to him) only to come home to him having done nothing and saying "Sorry, babe, I couldn't figure out how." I ended up making only a one person serving with heavy wasabi and pickled ginger(which I love but he absolutely could not handle in any capacity) pre-rolled into all of it so he couldn't even beg for some while I ate it. Now I finally have a term for his behavior.
I once was stuck with a guy like this. I called him out on his bs by saying, "Wow, imagine being soooo manly that you can't even care for yourself without a woman helping you out with everything. Your father must be proud."
@@wiffywiffy7896 I've always found it funny that "alpha" males aren't man enough to care for themselves without a woman's help. Doesn't seem alpha to me
Man, I once lived with a guy that me and my other lady roomate had to have an intervention for. We explained exactly what it was that he was doing and how unfair it was to us. I straight up said if he did not know how to properly take care of himself like an adult, then I'd teach him how. He came back to us a week later with a long lengthy apology and said he examined all his prior actions and he had indeed been a POS. He was good for a few months after but I think he slipped into his old bad habits again later on when he could get away with it. 🙄
Jackie explaining the weaponized incompetence phenomenon was so good. And Shayne immediately being like “so it’s a form of control” was spot-on; he’s a sharp one. But the outro LMFAOOOO I love y’all!
he didnt got a psychology degree for nothing lol
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Lol it was awesome to watch, I wanna see it all professionally psychoanalyzed and presented in a lecture 😂
one reason I'm a fan of him, the fact that Jackie doesn't even need to say anything to give a reaction is also gold. I want a whole show with these 3
The thing that really gets me about the last guy is that he is willing to look at his girlfriend’s trauma and say, “but nothing happened.” Something *did* happen. Maybe it wasn’t SA, or hell, maybe it was. That can be very difficult to talk about and there’s a chance she just doesn’t feel comfortable bringing it up yet. The point is, she was cornered by a group of men, and was only able to escape after she kicked out a window. That is something. That is traumatic.
And I mean, I just don't see any scenario where she wasn't actually in danger, like a stupid prank taken way too far, because I can't think of a single good reason to have a bedroom you can't unlock from inside.
like that is absolutely TERRIFYING
He seems completely unaware of how dangerous men are to women. They would have let her out if it was just a dumb prank or non-sinister. They had sinister intentions, they just didn't have follow-through to commit to whatever they planned before she got the heck out. She could have been murdered that day. She escaped a bad fate, but she still saw the evil intentions in others and the darkness of the fate they intended for her. That can be deeply scarring and shake your trust in humanity greatly.
I KNOW! this is the part that truly got me. something DID happen. she was held against her will in a room, and only got out by physically having to break a window? that is extremely scary and can be traumatizing.
who knows what those guys would have done if she did escape, it's scary to think of
the scary thing about the guy who wanted a darker child is that if his second child (baby #2) DID come out with darker skin, the favoritism he would show towards baby #2 with the resentment of his first child makes me think it's better off he doesn't go for another baby.
This. My grandma had a similar fetish but got 4 light skinned babies some of whom were white passing with a black man. Her favorite? The darkest one.
Later with her grandchildren my cousin Crystal was her favorite as she was darker than her youngest, until I came along. For reference as a mixed person, I'm darker than fully black people. The way my grandmother doted on me (look I thought she treated all of them like she treated me) that it was so clear to everyone but me that I was her favorite. The amount of resentment her other grandchildren hold for her, they couldn't even care less when she died other than it was a loss for their mom.
Even if baby 2 had ANY “black” traits he would probably favor baby 2.
And this gets even worse because he is right, those are more dominant traits, so he does have a decent chance at getting “what he’s looking for” in a mixed kid, the fact that he got a kid who looks “just like him” is already kindof a very specific dice roll that probably won’t happen twice. (although I theorize that the kid doesn’t actually look “just like him” he’s just also blonde haired, light skinned, and blue eyed, and that’s all he sees because thats “not what he wanted”)
Typing this was honestly so distracting because it just felt gross to talk about a kid like that.
AND because he said his family talks about his baby having “the good genes” (white genes) they would likely favor baby1 over baby2 if baby2 was any more black phenotypically :/ neither of the kids would win
Yo we have similar handles.
@@HelloKitty-iq8tt see you again, handle twin
Jackie’s point about not congratulating dads for taking care of their kids is SO TRUE. My husband is in an incredibly father but the way he gets compliments for doing anything is insane. He gets stopped in public and told what I great dad he is for any and everything. Caring our daughter into a store. Pushing the stroller. Feeding our son a bottle. ANYTHING. No one has ever told me I’m such a great mom for caring a car seat but apparently that is TOP TIER behavior for dad.
Apparently the bar of expectation some people have for fathers is in hell so it inflates the value of these little things in their mind.
You are a great mom
My bestie is married to a man child. He thinks that working a 9-5 means he can come home to a cooked meal and not parent the kids, not touch laundry, not clean, etc. He goes to work, plays video games, and sleeps. I have no problem with video games and I play some myself, but it's the balance that is a big deal. If it interferes with the important stuff, then that's a problem. Both partners should be able to cook, clean, do laundry, and parent the kids, and I mean more than just yelling at them when they do something wrong.
The bar is so far underground that it's melting.
I’ve always found it to be weird behavior. It’s the bare minimum, like a teacher teaching. Btw I think you’re doing great as a mom! It’s hard work raising a kid and to anyone who can do that I gotta support 🫡💕
It makes up for the lack of compliments men get in every other aspect of their lives.
Jackie making POINTS. Like weaponized incompetence is totally true.
Weaponized incompetence is an overused term. Some men really do crap out and claim they can't do it.
Most of the time? It's just "it's done and that's what matters" conflicting with "it must be done to this exact specification in these exact ways." Men simply do a thing, do it perfectly well, and then get critiqued for it not being done a hyper specific way; in turn you realize there's no sense doing it so you just don't.
@@christopherreichle6670 I've never heard the term before, though it's perfect for what it represents. and it's not really as you've described it. especially if it's a task that's stereotypically "feminine", men will often just not want to do it and so will present themselves as incompetent at the task altogether in order to get out of doing it (bc of course their partner is going to want it done right and therefore do it themselves). I see this daily with my own male siblings.
@@registeredjopper im not saying what I'm saying happens IS weaponized incompetence. I'm saying what's happening is called that when it isn't.
So like I do my own laundry. Don't fold half the shit, whatever gets folded is uneven and just done to shove shit in efficiently. That's enough for me - and it's gonna be the way I do it because that's literally getting the goal of laundry done.
So if you tell me to do it but then go ahead and say I did it wrong I'm going to tell you: if you don't like the output do it ya damn self. Because guess what it's done and I'm not taking shit for you being picky AND not telling me the methodology you wanted performed.
That's what's happening often. Men do a thing, get told they "did it wrong" even though it's done to what most would call a good quality and then give up. Really, the problem would go away if everyone - men and women - just started saying "if you don't like the way I do it when you ask me to, do it your own damn self because fuck you for being toxic."
@@christopherreichle6670 What you’re describing sounds partially like a form of learned helplessness. If someone is repeatedly discouraged or punished for doing something a certain way they might come to believe they can’t do that thing at all, and it’s not worth even trying. The outcome can be somewhat similar to weaponized incompetence, but like you mention they’re distinct in the motivation. Weaponized incompetence is about not having to put in any effort, while learned helplessness is about self doubt and resignation. There is also the less deep difference of standards and reluctance to change that are inherent in being different people.
The key with overcoming the defensive reaction of “you do it then” is to get the other person to teach you how to do it differently, but only if they give you a valid reason for the change and clearly communicate their expectations. If you honestly put in full genuine effort for compromise and it’s still not good enough after that, they can do it themselves.
@@calmwaveofchaos1878 I'm still not even referring to that. I mean some people are such control freaks they'll have a fit if you don't use their method regardless of performance of either methods. Like they could have an objectively worse method and will be upset if it's not used or is barely objectively more satisfactory.
For example: I don't fold my shirts. Never learned and frankly I hang them up - they're all graphic tees so chances are I'll waste effort since I'll have to thumb through them folded anyway. Just hang them up because I have space. If someone told me I should do it their way for no other reason than they believe it's better? Yeah no, they can do it then because my way is working fine for me.
it makes me so upset that so many guys don’t understand what it’s like when a friendship you think is treasured and cherished is ruined because the guy had ulterior motives
Indeed a lot of guys are like that. Labeling it the "friend zone" as if women knew all along the guy in said situation was doing friendly stuff because they wanted more out of it. To make a drawn out analogy it's like the Christian who presses belief in God because they don't want to go to hell not because they are practicing genuine morality. It's the same idea. Being a friend to a woman so you can go out with/sleep with her is not being a friend, it's being... well, predatory. They are people before they are women, and it's important to realize that most women will not like you like that. So be a friend, an actual friend. If feelings develop mutually well then cool but if they don't guess what? She's still a great friend! Never treat relationships as transactional.
@@chickensandwich8808 you’re spittin 🙏🏼 this is so well said 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@@chickensandwich8808 Exactly
Sometimes it's not ulterior motives
Turns out when you spend a lot of time with someone you start to like them. If they're also your type incidentally, you're gonna like them a lot more.
Isn't the first rule of a relationship being good friends? Best friends even? Like, that means you kinda need to start on the friendship level to begin with and then it becomes a relationship.
@@christopherreichle6670 yes i agree this is the case sometimes. it’s how i met my partner, lol. but it’s also how i’ve lost friends.
what i’m saying is most girls or people who deal with what i’m talking about know that a lot of the time these guys don’t have those intentions. i swear we can sense it but we don’t wanna believe it. we wanna keep our friend but you can jus feel them wanting to you either leave your relationship or they’re only in it to date you. i’m talking about guys with ulterior motives, you’re talking about guys who won’t have those but develop feelings later. we’re talking about two different things.
“My girlfriend gets mad because men hit on her and she’s uncomfortable around men after trama and she is careful” bro- get ahold of yourself.
Right , poor girl !! Ans she was so heartbroken I’m sure about her guy friend because he was probably the only guy she trusted and suddenly he was like everyone else wanting to make a move
He's so willingly oblivious it's frustrating, like why is she still with him?
I believe he found this out after talking with her because of her actions and he didn't know it before. I believe he wanted an explanation on WHY she was acting what he would consider to be abnormal.
I mean this guy is toxic and lowkey has a cuckold fantasy.
I used to have a fairly large circle of people I considered friends.
I can make friends with almost anyone, but since I was a tomboy growing up, I've always gotten along better with guys than with girls, so my friend circle was largely more male than female.
Throughout middleschool and highschool, I enjoyed my circle of friends because the guys either saw me like a sister, or even better, just like "one of the guys". And I *loved* that. Since I only ever saw these guys as friends, I never had to worry about any of them trying to flirt with/at me or trying to make a move on me or anything. We could just hang out and it would be fun.
Since my sophomore year of highschool, I'd dated ONE guy, and we eventually got engaged..... and then in early 2013, I lost him to a car accident that nearly killed us both.
After barely a year, even several times SINCE that happened, several of my male friends have either flirted at me or hit on me, or tried to make moves on me.
Apparently, me being engaged was the only thing that stopped them, but with that "obstacle" (as some guys so "charmingly" (not) referred to him) out of the way, they thought they suddenly had an opening.
Several male friends suddenly told me they'd either had long-time crushes on me for years or said they'd been interested in me but didn't think I saw them that way, so they didn't say anything, but thought that might've suddenly changed.
And because I still only saw them the same way I'd seen them for YEARS (as ONLY friends, and in some cases, close friends at that), I had to break more than a few ties because they couldn't accept the fact that I just wasn't interested in anything more than friendship.
Needless to say, my friend circle is significantly smaller these days.
I still have a few male friends that (thankfully) DON'T see me in a romantic light (being in happy relationships themselves already), and I'm trying to be more careful about the male friends I DO still have.
The pasta bf story is the wildest part of this because she’s asking about the most mild, least problematic part of their relationshop
And the worst part for her was that he lied about being allergic to dogs like WHAT there was so much wrong with that guy and that's what she chose to be the angriest about
@@The_prophet_james_of_elia part of me wonders if maybe she had a dog that he forced her to get rid of because “he’s allergic” and she just forgot to mention it due to all the other things
I think the fact that that being her worst part is just another indicator of how immature she really is @Jamestaylor97185
Given her dad would do the same for her growing up and she likely got involved with her partner six years her senior as a seventeen year old, she likes to be nurtured. That’s why the sentiment of it all was so important for her. But yeah, her bf is predatory and definitely fiends off of making her feel stupid.
@@malabambii I feel like she doesn’t even like to be nurtured she was just STILL A CHILD
Mac and Jackie's reaction to the white dude wanting a dark skinned kid is amazing, a comedic duo we needed
I need more Reddit videos with them😂
The last story is so sad. Doesn't matter if "nothing happened" that is SO scary to literally have to kick out a window to escape. Delete the whole boyfriend, and stay away from the entire friend group.
More than that - _something_ already HAD happened. You can't say "nothing actually happened" when that so-called "nothing" involved being locked in a room with a group of men, and having to kick out a window to escape. JUST that alone is traumatising as all-hell for anyone, let alone a lone vulnerable woman! Her mind would have been screaming at her that she was about to be violently assualted sexually - and that her life was absolutely on the line here. I honestly do _not_ blame her one bit for having that attitude towards and around men after such a horrific event. I _will_ say that for her own peace of mind and ability to continue functioning and not to do something ultimately permanent to solve those fears, she _needs_ to go to a therapist who is trained to deal with such situations. Otherwise it will eat her up and eventually destroy her.
@@DavidStruveDesigns i wholeheartedly agree with you. I would also like to add my own personal experience into this- this woman may also not be straight. I had a deep seeded fear of men myself, even tho I was able to maintain boyfriends and a healthy bedroom life with the guys I was with. I was still terrified of all men but my bf, but after I started trying out the other team I realized that I was actually gay. I stopped having a fear of men after that because I no longer felt pressure to have sex with them. I’m not saying she doesn’t have trauma, but I wonder if maybe there is some complexity to this as well, perhaps with her sexuality .
@@DavidStruveDesigns Eh, she does not need therapy for a VERY normal reaction to a boyfriend who actively ignores her safety concerns. It is very very normal as a woman to not want to spend a few days with only men you may or may not know. That's literally what women are told from the age of 5 to not ever do.
His friends hit on her, while she was dating him, these guys hit on their friend's girlfriend. WTAF? I would not want to know these guys either. They do not respect her or her relationship, why would she want to spend time with them at all?
She dropped a guy who she thought was a friend, but turns out he was just putting her in the f*ckzone. That is a normal reaction to finding out that someone you though was a friend actually wanted to date you.
Why should she hang out with people she is not friends with, who want to date/f*ck her, and she is in no way interested in them?
None of this is abnormal behaviour.
The trauma of being almost SA-ed is bad, sure, but honestly, her behaviour does not hint at any past trauma. It just makes his behaviour 100x worse.
@@AnnekeOosterink I totally agree with you. I'm not saying anything to the contrary. With the exception of therapy - I wasn't inferring she needed therapy for her reaction to her boyfriend, I'm saying it's probably a good idea to go for therapy after the incredibly traumatic event that happened prior to that - the locked room incident. I have personal experience of what it's like to try and bottle up things and not talk them out with someone, and it has a bad habit of messing you up even more to bottle it up. And it will taint _all_ your future interactions as a result. She has all the signs of someone still affected by that trauma, yes her reactions are understandable but they _are_ being inflated and made more extreme by those past traumas in my opinion and I think for her sake she would benefit from therapy.
Then again I think most people could benefit from having a therapist, even if it's only to have an outlet about day-to-day stressful stuff. It's good for your mental health to have one in my personal opinon.
@@AnnekeOosterink the therapy was for the trauma she went to. But it would also be completely valid to seek therapy for an experience w such a psycho partner.
I'm so impressed by the pokedex, cultural food and misandry guys, like how can they actually not only experience this, but also sit down and write it down, re-experiencing it for, like, 20 or so minutes and STILL think "Hm, my gf got physically attacked but I don't like her food that she only makes for herself after spending time and money on food for me, I'm obviously in the right here"
A likely mix of stupidity bolstered by privilege and arrogance.
For real. And unfortunately these are often the quality of dudes on dating apps.
fr 😭😭 and he got on her for not getting enough protein while she was literally eating yogurt which is a great source of protein, being dumb enough to think meat is the only way to get protein while saying youre just “stating the facts” is utterly baffling. some ppl are so dumb they cant even recognize how dumb they are.
I was looking for this comment, what an ass!!
@@HouseMDaddict that’s why they’re on dating apps.
Its so nice to see that people immediately recognize some of these age gap relationships for what they are now.
10 years ago, I had a 20+ y/o friend who I went no contact with because he started dating a 15 y/o girl. I thought i was going nuts, because everyone told me i was an ass for being so "judgemental" about the relationship. It honestly still haunts me to think that so many people were enabling that.
Most people like to convince themselves that they're 'critical thinkers'. And the Shepards don't interrupt the sheep.
I definitely agree
Yeah, 35 and 30 isn’t that big of a difference, but when you look at the difference between a 15 year old and a 10 year old suddenly you can see just how much difference 5 years makes. 20 and 15 is definitely weird.
i feel you. a guy in my highschool friend group got kicked out of the discord group chat for dating a 15 year old when he was 19. not *quite* as bad as an age gap of 5+ years, but definitely iffy, yknow?
Totally! When I was 14 and stupid I dated a 19 year old. Now I'm 17 and even the idea of me dating a 14 year old sounds so gross and creepy. I can't imagine what was going on in that guy's head to make him think that situation was okay.
Not Creepy: keeping notes on what people in your life like so that when they come over you can feed them food they like and buy them good gifts
Creepy: Calling it a Pokedex, Referring to adding notes as "catching" a woman, Sharing it with randos/crowdsourcing it, an entire Fraternity knowing everything about you before you even go on a date with them
Is it wrong to then when they ask for an explanation for them to say he was trying to catch ‘em all
Lmfao what has our world come to
IMO if he didn't share it, he would have been golden, that way he would have not hurt anybody. Just needed to burn it once he found "the one".
This is exactly my take.
I think most people can agree that remembering details about one another is endearing and demonstrating that is an aspect of building up relationships with others. Detailing these things in written form isn't much different and considering that particularly creepy would be strange.
But sharing information about other people to those who aren't already privy is in most circumstances a violation of trust between you and that person, and dives straight into scummy behavior when that list seems to serve the purpose of manipulation.
Yeah, why else would they want to "impress" them on dates? NOT have sex with them???
Jackie: I'm open minded.
Also Jackie: Deep breaths as her annoyance rises.
To be fair- who would want to be open minded to men who arent open minded themselves by objectifying women and literally telling them that theyre cultural food is gross and unhealthy
I felt a shift in atmospheric pressure when she said that. She is just the best.
Honestly didnt want to add an edit to this cuz like its gold but dang- 1.5k likes- thats a bunch.
@@zacr4664 7
Mac knew.
"I wouldn't trade him for any mixed toddler" is NOT a sentence I thought I would even hear. 😂
I expected one of them to say "but I'd trade him for a black toddler"
Lol right? 😂
I made the mistake of taking a sip of water and almost choked at that LMAO
Maybe he should get in touch with cat guy lol
@Jamestaylor97185 no cus he'd get an exact copy back just one withtrauma this time
As a woman, listening to the “misandrist” story was so sad. She obv has trauma from men. The incident with the male friend was so sad bro, a lot of women unfortunately experience that with almost every friendship they have with a man. She should break up with him and find someone who understands her fr
THAT part. If u are PUSHING ur s/o to be comfortable in an uncomfortable situation is absolutely atrocious
That poor last lady, is _not_ a "man hating girlfriend" ... she's a man _fearing_ girlfriend. There's a difference. A bloody big one.
And to think the one man she DOES trust thinks like this…makes me sick 💀
Agreed!!!
THANK YOU! This man has NO concept of trauma & PTSD!!!
FR LIKE WHAT
ITS 👏 ABOUT 👏 SAFETY
"he did not like being called a predator" GOT MEE
Bro. The least he could do as a predator was to pay rent. Mans was a predator and a leech. Damn
Even though he is
yeah like... maybe dont be one dawg?
I literally rewatched that part at least 20 times 😂😂
yea, that was funny. it's also like. why does the names you are called by people who don't even know your face or name on a forum that you could simply choose to ignore affect your relationship? like, yeah, posting that in itself might feel like a betrayal of trust - wonder how she felt when you told her you continuously haven't done the thing you agreed to do for her. but also, shouldn't her posting it be the concern, rather than strangers now insulting you as far from to-your-face as is possible in a public space? unless he minds them putting ideas in his girlfriend's head bc it makes her harder to control... which would mean he's *gasp* a predator!
Jackie’s pure annoyance during this whole video was the highlight of my week
"If someone doesn't make pasts the way I like it then I make my own pasta" "and he doesn't even work at CVS" "She's stupiid"
I'd like to think she just had a personal game of How uncomfortable can I make Shane
Samee I’m like girll me too
@@Chuycabra that’s her normal game tbh, it’s kind of incredible
@@Chuycabra how ? Lol she brought more comedy to the show
"I told her I had enough and told her about her incredibly unhealthy food habits."
He doesn't even know what she's eating!
and that’s when i fed him my specialty dish, a knuckle sandwich
right? i lost it at “she put too much yellow in it”
It is not the first time white westerners projecting their unhealthy eating habit onto non-white people and non-westerners.
It is not to say “non-white” (mind the air quote) and non-western foods are 100% healthy. But, come on: western cuisines are known for their dependence on meat and grease for flavours.
And I'm sure she's tired of his unhealthy treatment towards her that is in no way good for her mental health . But he's more concerned about too much yogurt... bruh . He sounds exhausting and his lack of effort to care for her or put into the relationship or even simply appreciate all she does for him, insanity .
@@KellyKnowlesArt I think she just added saffron to the rice (which barely affects the taste) or it was some pickled vegetable either way him refering to it as "too much yellow" not even knowing what it's called or what it is or caring to know her culture is so childish and ignorant in both language and behaviour.
I love how absolutely done with the world Jackie looked when Shayne read the sentence about that guy only being attracted to black women lol
As someone who was recently sexually assaulted by a male plumber IN MY OWN HOME, I really sympathize with the 'misandrist' girl.
omg im so sorry you went through that! its a fear of mine too :((((
So sorry love❤❤
im so sorry you went through that :( it's more than a breach of security. i'm happy you shared your experience though, keep slaying gurl
So sorry that happened to you. I also have fear too
I hope you're ok now and hope you press/pressed charges.
Jackie is the PERFECT person to react to these! Her brand of kind of petty/catty sass just works soooo well with the subject matter. And GOD did she nail the ending and absolutely obliterate Shayne.
I also appreciate that they didn't back off from tackling some of the deeper subjects stemming from these stories. Like I wasn't expecting a SINCERE breakdown of weaponized incompetence but I love that we got it.
jackie is a real one
why are you branding a black womans humor as petty and catty? it's okay to just say she's funny..
@@asmagedi414 please stop
-sincerely, a black woman
@@asmagedi414 you're absolutely correct, I didn't think about how that comment would read- it was really just me trying to describe that particular brand/tone of zero BS that Jackie's humour has that I love soooo much. It's the bite with which she delivers such pin point accurate appraisals that is sooo fitting for this format. I wasn't trying to *just* say that she was funny but soooo much more that that, however I didn't think through my choice of words in doing so concisely- I honestly appreciate being called out on it. Thank you.
@Kitty Mewes no, they're not right. She's a black woman, yes, and she's also petty and catty with her humor. Those two facts are separate. Her humor is great and is unrelated to her being black. This is crazy to hear, but skin color kinda really doesn't matter in any way, especially in a situation like this. Her humor is born from her personality.
The first story just killed my soul... That man doesn't deserve to have a partner, the level of disrespect he had for the cat and his partner is insane. If you love someone you don't destroy the things that person loves just cause its inconvenient for you... I just can't believe it... i feel so sad for the cat left at the shelter, he was taken away from his house by a complete monster.
No fr that story always makes my fucking blood boil
Ah yes because cats can't have behavioral issues and people who don't like to put up with that are the devil!! Yeah he should have just broken up with her instead of doing what he did, but I get real tired of "bleeding heart" animal lovers that don't want to admit that animals can have issues and that there isn't a severe pet overpopulation issue.
But the point is the dude literally lied and disregarded something his girlfriend loved so much. He's a giant dick.
@@TheTotalgamergirlthe thing abt behavioral issues tho is that they CAN be fixed if you put in the effort. That cat in that shelter was probably scared shitless because some asshole couldn’t fucking man up. cats scratch get over it if u don’t fucking like it don’t get with someone who has a cat in the first place.
@@TheTotalgamergirlSo can humans. Which shelter should I dropp you off at? I'll check in 6 years to make sure it's a no kill. Oh and of course I will get a look alike so your parents don't notice.
Me: "Is he 12 years old or something? 18 and sheltered at the very most."
Shayne: "HE'S 31."
PHYSICALLY 31. MENTALLY is something else LOL
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088mentally most people don’t leave middle school sadly
Jackie: “You don’t have to go to the comments, what’s 20 minus 3 Shayne?”
Shayne: *struggling*
Jackie: “WELCOME TO BEOPARDY what is it Shayne”
Im crying real tears 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I would have loved if they leaned into the bit some more lol. Like "the category is 'Numbers Between 16 and 18'"
@@donq4483 YOOO😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭FR
She technically said ALMOST 3 years and she might have had her birthday like a month after posting it or sth.
Even if 18 and 23 is still pretty far apart.
@@PinHeadSupliciumwtf not really though? And the world isn't run by the USA :l
Idk if the Appropriate Age For Dating formula has changed since I was a yung'un, but afaik it's 1/2+7. So if he was 23, his appropriate ranged should have been 11+7, or 18. She is just barely in range NOW that he's 26, as 13+7 is 20, but he should not have been cradle robbing when they met.
Shayne and Jackie are honestly the best comedic pairing. She is the only one who keeps Shayne on his toes
trueeee
FR
agree but with the distant honorable mention of damien after several red bulls in any given episode of hacking off. but yeah she established that dynamic their first tntl and apparently he's into that dynamic with jackie bc it never changed she's just been slowly ramping it up since quarantine.
Agree!!!
@@tdarkhorse4 Idea: reddit video with damien and shayne on the couch and Jackie reads the stories (or jackie and damien on the couch and shayne reads the stories)
So the guy with the Pakistani ex gf. He's telling her to leave her job and what to eat while 1. Living of her rent-free 2. Not offering for her to stay with him in his new apartment while looking for another job 3. Not buying good food and cooking it for her 4. Wants her to cook for him after she's attacked at work. 5. Only calling her because he doesnt want to stay with his mom. What a keeper
Obsessed with the dynamic between these three, it was so fun! as a long time black fan of smosh, Jackie has done a good job of having more black people in the room and fronting the black experience with their conversations, and I actually love how Shayne is able to work with her in contrast and recognize the humour in being a white guy. I love everyone at Smosh, but knowing Kiana is behind the camera I’d love to see more content where black cast, crew, and guests come together.
@@brent8407 Everything ok at home Brent? Because that’s not what I said.
So many issues here (SO MANY) but somehow the biggest thing that got me about the last guy is how comfortable he felt sharing her personal trauma story (that she did not tell him until years into the relationship with direct prompting). This man will turn out the darkest moments of your life to strangers on the internet, all in the hopes that they’ll comfort him and say he wasn’t in the wrong. The nerve. The complete lack of basic human compassion. Baby he is a dog and he doesn’t even deserve your table scraps
Comparing this guy to a dog is an insult to dogs
Dogs are infinitely better than this guy. HOLY shit what a complete and utter asshole. He fully refuses to see things from someone else's point of view. Like, he does not want to be empathetic.
@@zachv183Comparing any man to dogs is an insult to dogs.
@@meganb6609 you going too far
@@GuyWithoutPitchits not though. Dogs whether they act good or bad are not incredibly intelligent. They do not know concepts like wrong and right. They are loyal to awful people bc their brains are the size of your kneecap. Men are aware in this day and age they need to change and take steps towards that. Yet most of them do not because being uncomfortable isnt in their own self interest. Hell even my husband prefers dogs over men
"She's stupid" was an astoundingly spot on sumarize of that whole situation.
Facts 🤣🤣 I bet she also added those "EDITS" when she noticed the initial comments unfavors her side.. like she mentioned everything was GOOD until that incident.. suddenly you bombard tons of "edits" unfavoring him lmao Youre the one Power Tripping "Tomato essense pasta girl" i bet youre as Manipulative irl as well
Whole situation was like boohoooo he didnt make yo pasta the way you want it.. the host is right "she only liked the IDEA of it" but for that small incident youre willing to let go of that "Good Relationship" you had? You were living together for years. even mentioned you had good dynamic together. You had all chores split 50 50 and he's been cooking for YOU the whole time and you LIKED IT!
Situation was a bit similar to the Cat guy.. like they been fooling their partners into liking something thats actually different? But Cat guy traded away Cat's LIFE.. and in Tomato essense Pasta girl situation, the Guy traded away a "RECIPE"... like Girl... cant you just call it a day and say You liked your Dad's pasta.. and you liked your Boyfriend's pasta? FINE.. he been lyin to you about the effin "Cooking method" but an apology for that should suffice
@@spelwurdsrite6756 as Jackie said, "she's stoopid"
@@spelwurdsrite6756 I think she's definitely stupid and probably has never had a real struggle in her life, but the guy is also a beacon of red flags. They started dating either when she was 17 or 18, probably still in high school or freshly out of it. He lied about his LITERAL JOB and CHEATED on her multiple times. Her food preferences are pretty childish, but it's also a preference (even though it's clear she can't tell the difference from plain spaghetti) and if he insisted on cooking then he should respect that or tell her so she'll make it herself. And if she never noticed the difference, why tell her? just to make her look stupid? to purposely upset her? it feels kinda malicious. they're both annoying in thr situation, and let's not act like she's the root of the problem
Shes stupid cause she has literal baby brain still 💀
"he made a move on her" followed by "FOR SOME REASON she was offended and even hurt" is a fucking WILD thing to say
this man is so fucking emotionally dense it's like he's never talked to another woman aside from his wife or fucking tried to empathise with them for a single moment
6:56 shayne looking directly into the camera when he read "it's not for nefarious reasons" is the exact reaction that deserved and it sent me
For the bespectacled amongst us, that's one of the times you look over the top of your glasses.
Pokédex guy essentially made It easy for men in his frat to manipulate women into sleeping with them. Now the men don’t have to put forth any real effort and can deceive the women into thinking they’re compatible. How is he so freaking BLIND to that?
I have chronic memory loss and adhd. while what it resulted in is wrong many people with these issues do not understand the consequences. Many people see our list making as open access sense we tend to forget which people we can’t share secrets with. It probably started out as innocent and he only thought others adding to it would make his job easier. I’ve been used in a similar way. While this may not be the case it’s a possibility that should be considered and I hope he realized the dangers and took it down.
@@moonlightwolfling6374 if someone with memory loss issues made a list for PEOPLE they knew, not just WOMEN they were interested in, okay cool. Totally useful. That would be a tool exclusively for their sole use though. There would be no reason to share that with others who do not share that issue. The fact this list was made for a specific purpose and passed around speaks to intent, in my opinion.
He ISN'T blind. He knew exactly what he was doing.
@@moonlightwolfling6374 I have both adhd and chronic memory loss and I have never ever created a list where other people can read it, especially with private personal info. It is not an "innocent list" if you can weaponise it.
I dunno I think it’s ok as long as there’s no really personal info on it.
It's so nice to see Mac laugh and have a good time with the Smosh crew. These are some wild stories, they all fit the vibe.
He laughs for a long time
First story he straight up turned into a muppet
my least favorite part of the “unhealthy” girlfriend is that the boyfriend talks about how she works a demanding job, and is too tired to make herself food ( even though she does). have you made food for her? have you offered? i’m sure she isn’t repulsed by your ‘normal’ food. wtf is wrong with you
THIS! I completely agree with you, if he would really be worried about her he could have at least tried to cook her something or ask her what she would like to eat.
It’s not even unhealthy? But on a day like that any food is good enough
These stories make me feel great about being single…
I won’t have cats replaced, my food criticized, and have weaponized incompetence thrown my way.
So true lmao
give lesbianism a try, greatly decreases the chances of dating someone like any of these men
@@Mimickolas what do u mean a try? 🤨 is lesbianism a choice?
@Ivan Reeve nah babe it's called exploring your sexuality
@@Mimickolas but you're not presenting it as a sexuality exploration, you're showing it off as a choice in order to avoid weirdos. I'd be wary of that type of perception. homosexuality is not something one can choose, because it's not something we can just decide to get rid of. please be careful.
16:54 "20-3, Shayne. Just say it out loud. Just say it right now. What is it, Shayne?? Welcome to Beopardy. 20-3." JACKIE HAS ME CRYING 🤣🤣
@@vubevube that age difference isn’t bad when you’re both older. the reason it’s creepy is because this college-aged man was dating a MINOR. at that age, the difference in maturity is too stark and makes it easier for power imbalances and taking advantage of her.
@@vubevube are you European? Cause I dont find it THAT weird either and i feel like this whole thing is seen a tiny bit differently over here
@@gogo_crunchy8926 yes
@@vubevube I think it’s mainly the control aspect. He’s more “mature”, has more freedom, and it is easier for him to control her since she’s younger.
@@certifiednerd542 but then there is a different variable involved. If the guy is a douche or not. If he is he will abuse the freedom and the age advantage. However the age difference on it's own doesn't automatically imply every guy will abuse it.
everyones reaction to the 20 and 26 year old who'd been dating for 3 years had me cackling 🤣
I was fine with 20 and 26 until she said, We started dating 3 years ago. I was thinking maybe a year of dating. But ffs. He is a groomer.
@@tiffanypronk4312fr I thought it was a normal relationship until I found out they’ve been dating since she was 17 and he was 23
@@im.addicted not to mention moving in a few months after depending when it was posted which I assume was 2023 but could be 2022
THE MATH- I need a second FOR THIS MATH xD
To be fair - she said almost three years and if she’s 20, yet close to turning 21, she could just have turned 18 when they met.
Bro that description of cultural food took me out, I'm Bengali Indian and we have a lot of similar foodstuff so I can tell you this much: the food described is benign af. The yoghurt with cucumbers etc is just Raayeta/raayita, often eaten as a side condiment for rice/biryani type dishes. I don't personally like to mix stuff with my sour curd or yoghurt but I love rice with yoghurt just on its own. Doi-bhaat, we call it, sometimes with। alil sweetener. The yellow stuff is turmeric probably, it's onw of our staple spices and I will take no turmeric slander from a pansy white man whose ancestors killed us for those spices and then forgot to ask us how to actually use them to cook. Mf got some audacity.
As a white person who absolutely adores other cultures food we don't claim him
@@W1stfulsalad as a white person I strongly second that.
Also how does this comment not have more likes??
Bangladeshi here, and Didi, the sentence "I will take no turmeric slander from a pansy white man whose ancestors killed us for those spices and then forgot to ask us how to actually use them to cook." took me outttt
@@sneakysnake4363as a Mexican who looks white. I second your seconding.
Imagine actually being like "I don't understand why this woman who almost got gangr*ped doesn't wanna be alone with a group of men or around men she doesn't know" boy I hope she's left that dude
Especially men who have expressed interest in her
It's definitely understandable, but that doesn't mean it's right, unless you think all women should act that way?
@@lemurwrench6344.................. There's the door bitch
@@friendlyneigborhoodbean ?
@@lemurwrench6344 you essentially said "Your trauma response. That does not harm anyone. Is wrong"
Next video, make Tommy read them as Shayne and Damien sit on the couch reacting to the most uncomfortable stories.
Yessssssssssss
To be honest HELL YES😂
That would be amazing.
I think Shayne is a good host for this. I would love Tommy and Courtney's reaction though
add spencer to the couch as well
my two cents on the whole pasta thing- it’s not the fact that he didn’t make her pasta how she liked it. it’s the fact that he knew about her pickiness (even going as far as telling her it was cute to validate it and give her false security in the relationship) to then reveal that for three YEARS he’s been lying to her about it- and he LAUGHS when he tells her, which completely excuses her feelings by acting like how she feels doesn’t matter. he lied and did what was convenient for him for literal years, then acted like it was funny because he didn’t really take her wants or needs seriously at all. the breach of trust is a crazy red flag for me, the way he built a false security in the relationship that he didn’t mean at all
Shayne's facial expressions while initially reading the pasta story was very re-affirming lmao
literally like what the fuuuuuuu
Him taking a moment to do the math was making me yell 😂 i was like HOLD UP WHAT and i was waitinf for someone to say “well first let’s talk abt how youve been groomed”
Eheh I'm your 1000th like ✌🏽
THISSSSS🤣
As someone who's experienced many traumas linked to men I feel so bad for the last girl and I really hope she leaves her bf cause it really seems like he doesn't care about her safety. It really seems like his friends make her feel unsafe.
The moment I heard that comment about how women "usually want to keep them around" in response to her distancing herself from guys that flirt or confess to her, I immediately thought "he's an 'alpha male' prescribing incel".
It's a common belief in the 'alpha male''/incel social circles that women like to keep "simps" and "beta orbiters" around them for constant attention and validation. That's exactly what he was talking about and just refrained from directly using the terms to avoid people calling him out for it. He wants her to have these "beta orbiters" , make his friends snacks and come on trips with his male relatives so he can use her as a prop to look like an 'alpha male'.
He never saw the problem with one girl being stuck with his all male family members in a cabin in the woods. That's somewhat of a red flag. There was zero empathy
@@bubonic019 Like I'm a woman who thankfully has not experienced any male-related trauma, and even I wouldn't want to spend a weekend in the woods with a bunch of dudes. At BEST it's going to smell awful and be unpleasant the whole time. And you just know that dude would expect her to be the one cooking for all of them, too.
Another thing is how he said "doing their duties" when he was talking about the female side of his family. He didn't say "busy doing other things"
I'm really wondering how they got to be together. Was he playing a power move, considering their age at the time? This circumstance really says something when/if he's the only guy she has been with if she's rejected everyone else.
That last girl probably went through something extremely traumatic with a man and now has extreme PTSD and is trying her best to hide it. I hope she's ok and breaks up with her boyfriend that only get frustrated with her not acting the way he wants to instead of wondering what happened to make her so afraid of men
And she's actually showing her respect to her boyfriend and not hanging around men who've hit on her when she's in a relationship.
This!
100%. And framing the attempted SA as a good thing bc it “calmed her down and taught her to reject men more nicely”? WTAF?? And Smosh missed this…
@@nocause5395 Trueeee
@@Triss_Joy I was fuming
A friend of mine has struggle to remember little details, so he keeps notes on what his girlfriend tells him, which I think is really cute. So I can understand where the idea came from, to note down information about people you talk to, to not forget what they like (if you have a memory issue like my friend does) but the moment you start sharing this information it becomes really, really weird.
Mac and Jackie are a duo that I didn't know I needed
Is Mac part of smosh cast? I’d love to see them join
@@emmabunch-benson4795 no, he has his own youtube channel called macdoesit! This is just a collab
@@emmabunch-benson4795 no it's a surprising but welcome surprise
honestly i clicked as soon as i saw mac, but the moment i saw jackie on screen??? i knew it was gonna be a great episode
@@emmabunch-benson4795 i highly doubt mac would join but it would be awesome if he did
That was hands down, HANDS DOWN, the greatest smoothest outro on UA-cam in existence. Can't wait for the next reddit stories where it's just Jackie's takedown of Shayne
not done with the vid yet, now i'm looking forward to the ending
I laughed my _ass off_ at the end!!! Jackie was so good!! 🤣
@@angelaoriel5912 I’m also looking forward to that
For the pasta "essence" one i want to know how her dad actually made her pasta because i bet he did the same thing
I feel like that too
This a religious experience. She wants the spirit of the sauce to be with her during that meal like some sort of ketchup jesus blessing her meal
@@FroggyGizmo your comment 🤣
But for real it seems she gets the ~EsSeNcE~ simply from smelling the sauce being cooked. No need to waste sauce by rinsing it off lol.
@@FroggyGizmo maybe the real essence is the friends we made a long the way
And it would just be wasting food
I think the part about guy lying that he is allergic to dogs being "the worst" might be because she had a dog and he told her to get rid of it? Thats why it was the worst for her.
I think she was just exaggerating
You might be right 😭
This is the BEST dynamic. Shayne quietly reading the posts out and Jackie and Mac are trying so hard not to burst out with how crazy and ridiculous these people are. I want a thousand more videos like this. Jackie brings the perfect mix of roasts and theory to these reddit videos and it plays so well of Shayne's psychologist-like way of reading the posts. Please upload more of these!
"This is a weak-ass man"
I f*cking love Jackie 🤣, straight up facts though
Nah he didn't say he met the kat once.
@@shizar998 not his cat though, It was his girlfriend’s. And it scratched him on the first day he was supposed to take of it which was his last straw. Plus, he didn’t even live with her at the time. He basically broke into her house (since he was allowed entrance without her there to feed the cat, not for any other given reason) and stole her pet and left it somewhere to possibly die - all without her permission.
@@noiwont4061 Yeah, but that's not the point really, they're pointing out that she's saying he met the cat once and took it to a shelter he didn't know about -- he said 6 years in total, married four, and they'd been together for a while, then checked to see if the shelter was STILL a no kill shelter. So yeah, still shitty moves, but she's getting irritated at "facts" that weren't there lol.
@@oduinn7948 yeah but he corrected her saying “he knew the cat a bunch, but went over there one night to babysit and the cat scratched him “ and she is right about the cat probably being euthanized because even no kill shelters transfer animals to kill shelters when they have no hope of being adopted
@@oduinn7948 and why are you petty tho 😂
As a white passing mixed person - the story about the father wanting an evidently mixed child was sad. Mixed people already have enough identity issues. This man’s fetish is going to hurt his kid
Out of curiosity, what are the odds of the story being read aloud happening? An interracial couple having a white child?
I totally agree.
There’s SO many ways mixed kids turn out. When he said you know exactly how they look….I was like…mmm white people that aren’t exposed to enough mixed people think that. People can have two dark skinned parents and come out light with light brown eyes. POC know there is no guarantee, mixed or otherwise.
Its so true - black cats get left behind alot - the only time ive ever seen so many get adopted was when Sabrina came out on Netflix bc everyone wanted their own Salem
Jackie looked right at Shane when she said “does he wear a chain and airmaxes “😂
I know it's not the point of the story but the fact that they served them PLAIN NOODLES for 3 YEARS and they didn't notice CRACKS ME UP.
It’s funny but also severely depressing that he not only messed with her food but admitted to it. It can fuck you up permanently if that happens
@@moonlightwolfling6374 pasta that once had sauce on it, but now doesn't = pasta that never had sauce on it. it's the same thing. I agree that if he hid ingredients she specifically didn't like in her food, that would be an AH move, but he just skipped an unnecessary step she could easily do herself.
As a parent of a fussy kid I bet you anything her dad was serving her the plain noodles all those years and telling her he washed the sauce off. Nobody has time for that. Her boyfriend is still the A for the weaponised air quotes though.
@@humanname99 he didnt *want* her to do it herself because it was a straight up power trip. That's why he insisted on handling everything to do with the cooking, so he could control what she was eating while pretending to respect her wishes and find her (admittedly childish) eating habits cute
@@Dave-cw2mj then just don't put the sauce on the pasta. I'm also on the spectrum and if I don't think I'll be able to eat something that acidic, I just put butter on the pasta or eat something else.
I love how Jackie and mac are so ready for these stories like kids on Christmas eve
Hahahaha good description 😂
On weaponized incompetence- my mom was once shocked because I successfully taught my stepdad to cook a very basic meal and he did it correctly. It’s because unlike her, I won’t let him out of the situation! He should be able to cook pasta and a cream sauce easily, but she always takes over the second he feigns incompetence. I have direct instructions, set up the ingredients, and left him there to cook while I walked the dog with the clear expectation that when I returned there would be dinner on the table. An expectation placed on my mother and I almost every day.
Honestly this is insane to me. My mom has stepped in on things in order to do them “the right way” so many times in my life, I’ve actually gotten upset at her and said “LET ME MAKE MISTAKES!!” Because sure, I may actually be incompetent, but I’m going to try anyway because I want to learn so I can eventually be competent. It’s crazy to me that some people do the opposite and try to get people to take over for them
As a woman being hit on by men since my 12th... i don't like men in my home. Me being alone with men is scary and i just don't like it. It's always like... what if they do anything again? I need to trust men. But you never know when you get the poisoned skittle out of the bag full of mixed skittles.
Same I've been sa's by a man and most of my traumas are related with men so 💀 I literally select few guy friends to get close to
in the ideal world we can trust men. and we could trust being alone with men we're friends with, even for years, because they might attack as well
i'm a dude and i always try to respect women's boundaries especially, the "not all men" men are so annoying
@@flops1792 you are a walking w
That's sincerely unfortunate but completely understandable apprehension. As a man I have no room to really say anything regarding your experiences. What I can say is we men have a lot of social conditioning to deconstruct and rebuild so that we are not passing on our own trauma to others.
The cultural food one reminds me of this other reddit post where this guy's girlfriend would come over to his apartment one night a week with groceries that she bought and cook for him. She was Mexican and would make him those types of dishes. He ranted about how unhealthy it was. This guy didn't cook at all and would only eat frozen tv dinners and fast food when his girlfriend didn't cook for him, yet he called all homemade Mexican food unhealthy.
Also mushy rice means ur life isent in order
right this man is smashing taco bell 3 meals a day but when his mexican gf makes real authetic food for him he calls it sh*t because he IS a POS. the absolute nerve of these guys. this is why women give up on dating for months or years at a time - you get one of these psychos and it puts you off people for a long period of time
If someone did that to my cat I would DESTROY his life. That is a serious betrayal and so cruel. Revenge would be secret and slow, irreversible, and devastating. I’m not a person anyone would suspect this from, but I would defend pets, children, the vulnerable to the max degree. Man would have f*****d around and found out.
The one with the child is definitely a fetish he is just in denial. Definitely if he had a second kid and it’s what he “wants” he will favorite more
I was thinking the exact same thing
It’s definitely a fetishization of black people/culture.
It’s similar to when straight guys fetishize lesbian woman.
He wanted his son to be black because he wants to be black.
Yeah, and his "I don't treat my child badly" bit sounds suspicious as hell tbh. He is so blind to his own damn fetish that I can totally see that he'd not even notice his behaviour towards his child.
Like, there was this other post that went viral about the guy who thought his wife had cheated on him because one of their children looked more like her than him. It was his child, she divorced him and the child he claims he did not treat any differently from the other children refuses to talk to him.
With the Pokédex one, the fact that when he found out someone in the frat told one of the girls about it, he just immediately assumed it was because he was a simp and not because he felt bad for the girl lmao
When Jackie said,”She’s stooopid.” I freaking lost it lolololol
"Guys... she didn't make the bagel bites... what are we gonna do?" 🤣😂
so are we going to point out the fact that the man from the 4th story said he had to live with his girlfriend rent free because he had nowhere else to go despite the fact he 100% could've lived with his mom from the beginning who I'm sure would have loved to let him live with her rent free because he gives off the vibes of someone who's been coddled his entire life and wouldn't know a bad day if it shit on him
But his mom is annoying 😡
This also implies he doesn’t have a single friend or family member willing to put up with him let alone let him live with them then rent free
I hope you guys keep doing the AITA stories, Shayne’s reactions are always hilarious 😅
So this man's girlfriend was almost gangraped and is now distrustful of men but she's the problem?
He's focusing on the "almost".
"nothing happened" dude she had to crawl out of a window to escape wtf that's horrifying
Her reactions sound like something did happen. As a survivor, it took me years to feel comfortable around people. Men still scare me and wanting only women to do things for you makes so much sense.
so many men think like this for some reason...
Oh ! But she should know it is not “all men” ( heavy sarcasm ).
23:13 Sorry… but since you aren’t paying rent and NOT paying for groceries, COOK HER A GOOD DING DANG MEAL!!! That’s what my dad did for my mom when she got home before him, and vise-versa when his hours changed!!! How?? Lord have mercy…
29:41 I love how Jackie said chain and airmaxes and that exactly what shayne had on ✋🏾💀
OMG I didnt even notice that LMAO 😂😭
I think *he* noticed though 💀
@kactus oh he deff did, his face says it all 😂💀💀
Yeah that's obviously why she said it. She was calling him out. Lol
AHHHHH both of their faces I didn't notice either!! SO GOOD
24:25 "Girlfriend won't answer my calls" LMFAO
Mate, you don't have a girlfriend.
I literally thought “don’t you mean EXgirlfriend?? 👀”
Just because that guy wasn't using his creepy "pokèdex" of women for scumbag reasons, doesn't mean other guys weren't using it for scumbag reasons. He had a list of places the women liked, that means they frequented those places and any guy could try to harass or follow a girl home from those places!🤮😱
He was definately using it for sex.
If you like/love a woman, you will remember her details. Because it's ONE woman. You focus on her.
But he wanted to remember details of SEVERAL women. Spreading his net out. That's for flicking.
Dude out here making a dating sim guide and treating women like NPCs.
i would say that using a girldex to "impress girls on dates" IS a scumbag reason. like... what do they honestly think they're trying to get out of impressing these girls? a relationship? sex? it's super gross and creepy and predatory
*It wasn’t really a causal list of places they liked (everyday places) it was places to take women on dates to impress them. I like Olive Garden but I’m not always there. Somebody hypothetically using the rolodex for stalking is unlikely and inconsequential imo because a stalkers will find you every and anywhere. None of the girls complained about being stalked either I think that would’ve been mentioned when everything blew up. That was the least evil thing out of this list to me 🤷🏽♀️ Wow he knows my favorite color and where I like to eat! Doesn’t make me want to sleep with him!
He can say it wasn't for scumbag reasons, but whittling women down to statistics and facts, is dehumanizing, and like it or not, is scumbag behavior.
Mac: It's like a glow stick. You crack it and the color flows through.
Oh My GOD, when I heard that. I'm Dead!! 🤣🤣
I just burst out laughing right in the middle of my dialysis clinic! Thankfully didn’t wake anyone.
I feel like every flaw the spaghetti girl has can be explained by the fact that her frontal lobe hasn’t developed yet. That dude’s frontal lobe is FULLY INTACT and he’s acting like this.
EXACTLY my thoughts. like he is dating a CHILD. of course she's upset about these things, someone her age is usually still at home nagging their parents. and the fact she left home to leave alone and be independent with her parents money and HE IS LIVING OFF OF THAT?!? parents buying their children apartments? 100% yes. but a predatory bf also taking advantage of her financially? this cannot be any worse...
@@noone-gf5op yeah, except she’s just not a child. Once you’re 18, you can no longer use the “i’m just a child” defense. You’re old enough to drive, work, have sex, gamble, join the military, own a firearm, leave your parents, get married, etc. you don’t get this double standard where you’re allowed to do all these things that are meant for adults, but you can always fall back on your age and use it as a shield. She’s not naïve because she’s young, she’s naïve because she’s sheltered.
Yeah but come on now, ur 20 if you like ur food a made a different way why not make it yourself? He's a predator and she's a child who obviously is used to getting her way.
@@coasterthekid8867 what makes someone an adult at 18? arbitrary legal shit. she's still an adolescent in terms of psychosocial development. he's a grown ass man. that's gross.
@@superzooperhaze6597 so you believe that someone’s not an adult until their brain fully finishes developing? Is that right? So you think people shouldn’t be able to drive, have sex, drink, do drugs, or be autonomous until they’re 26? Because the number 18 isn’t arbitrary, it’s where we as a society have decided that your brain is developed enough to make your own choices. If you’re calling that arbitrary than any number before when your brain is fully developed, would also be arbitrary using your logic. So now I’m curious, when do you think people are adults that can make their own decisions? Because I’m 19 and I’m quite happy being able to make choices for myself and not legally belong to my parents. I like being able to sleep with older people and have full control over my body. But you dislike that so you undermine my ability to make decisions and say that the people I’m attracted to are gross. You’re the fucking asshole.
Can this be a once a month series, please? I love Uncle Shayne reading to the kids.
Once a week
Yes, once a week
BROTHER MAC HAS TO COME VISIT TOO!! I LOVE HIM
Indeed.
Jackie needs to be in them as well, maybe shayne + jackie + a rotating guest
The writer of the Pokédex story revealed what the true intentions of the list was the second he said “some guy who SIMPED for her” after saying that the WHOLE reason for making this was to help guys get girls into them, have fun dates, and CONNECTING WITH THEM!! It’s so painfully obvious this was a way just to hookup with the hot chicks on campus after a date or two. This is some registry level shit he tried to pass off as something innocent 😂😂 childish
He also said he wasn’t using it “JUST for sex”…
“Child isn’t dark enough” just sounds like something my dad would’ve posted 😭I need to find what year this Reddit story came out
The facial expressions Shayne, Jackie and Mac are making are amazing. They are straight flabbergasted.
Or in Mac's case, gay flabbergasted. Lol
@@artluver94c *Rolls Credits*
”We don’t keep this information for any nefarious or scumbaggy reasons.” _DEAD SOUL STARE INTO CAMERA_
Shayne + Jackie + Mac + Kiana's laughter in the background = content GOLD
+ rocks editing
as a blk person and hearing the one about the white dude and his biracial soon threw me for a LOOP. like i keep cackling because of jackie and mac’s reaction.
These three have good chemistry. Humor wise. They are a comedic group.
Shayne turning into a concerned dad the literal second he realized the girl was 17 when she and her bf started dating. 🤣😅
(But honestly, didn't we all?)
I’m a cook and I was getting mad at the girl for the spaghetti thing so I paused and was like “how could a 24 year old man date a 18 year old with the palate of a middle schooler for 2 years without feeling weird about it” then i unpaused and it was the we’ve been dating for 3 years part and it just clicked “that’s one more year than my my legal estimate of- oh my god that’s why”
For the Man-Hating Girlfriend, maybe his 'fantasy' is for her to "let these guys hit on her" so he can come and be her "protective boyfriend" and make himself feel good in that way. Idk. It's just all weird. If these guys are asking themselves AITA? Well, yes. There is a reason you're asking yourself that. Unbelievable 💀
OR equally gross, he wants her to politely turn them down because she has a “better option” at home, because he sees these nice men asking her out and he wants to flatter his own ego that she is constantly choosing him.
dude wants to be her white knight or something smh
That has to be it, right? She tells him that most of his friends have tried to get her to cheat on him with them, and he's mad _at her_ because she doesn't feel comfortable hanging out with them?? Like, it's either he wants to be her white knight, or he actively _wants_ her to cheat on him for whatever reason... Those are the only explanations I can think of. Dude is fucking weird.
@@tra12048 And throw in the fact that she was locked up and only escaped being SA-ed and maybe murdered because she broke a window and jumped out, and he blithely shares her trauma on the internet... YIKES.
Sounds like the guy has "hero syndrome" mixed with a cat and mouse fetish
I was angry at the food one, cause he’s so fucking full of himself he doesn’t even know how to treat another human with respect and empathy. But the last one made my blood run cold. The fact that neither him nor any of his friends even entertained the idea that she might have trauma that lead to the behavior is just so disheartening. And her being upset that someone she thought was a close friend betrayed her is absolutely justified. Women (and afabs in general) grow up learning that they are never safe, and men don’t even have a clue. I’m tired.
I was thinking the same. It'd be different to me if she had walked in and saw he didn't do the pasta her way, and he was apologetic, explaining why he does it that way. Instead he used it as a tool to belittle her
Girl responded correctly when she threw the whole man out
wait what does afab mean? I have never heard that one
@@zombioric5890 it means a female at birth
@@jbrooks2099 okay! thank you sm
The Pokédex thing started out sounding (somewhat) innocent but turned scummy real quick
The cat story literally horrified me and made me so sad! If my partner were to ever swap one of my cats--of which I currently have three--I would feel so betrayed and depressed. I love my fur babies and losing them would be awful. I would still keep the new cat as well, though.
you'd have 4 cats and a newly filled hole in the backyard
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088 =D
I have a fear of replacement/doppelgängers so that story really horrified me as well
He'd be out of my life faster than he can run for sure. What the hell??? Poor cats. There's always a reason for undesirable behaviour. I hope the wife finds out and hell rains on this guy.
@stephr2980 The cat knew he was an ass from the start and that's why he was aggressive towards him is what I think. Animals can sense things about people, ya know. And yes, if a pet acts a certain way there's a reason, whether sick or scared, etc, there's a reason. I have two cats that are mine and two strays from a feral colony that show up for food daily. I love cats, too and highly agree with you.
Jacklyn's reactions to the "Unhealthy" Girlfriend story were the representation of how I felt inside hearing it too. And the "I can not deal with these men" is a mood for most of the episode!
Fr. Like these types of guys need to go back into the woodwork they came out of and stay there.
age gap aside, i’m on pasta girl’s side. he decided he was prepping food and she was “assigned” chores, jackie’s so right about the power trip
yeah, maybe it would've been weird if she demanded he do everything for her always but being "assigned" chores and having an agreement beforehand then lying about it...
She's definitely in the right, but I feel like I'd want to scream if I had to hold a conversation with her.
For the second story, I would have understood it as someone who needs to write things down to remember stuff. I've not had that issue with people I care about, but everyone is different. As it went on they have to understand how dehumanising it seemed to be put in a spreadsheet full of information about you like a creature so that other guys could have your guard down a bit easier.
Even if you don't want to admit how it looks predatory, the least you could do is admit that it's dehumanising. YOU LITERALLY CALLED IT A POKEKDEX!
The College Pokédex started off okay, I forget a lot too so it makes sense for me to write down things they like. But SHARING it with others??? AND denying it’s a hookup guide??? It got creepy fast
What if he didn't write it down but told everyone in his fraternity everything none sensible about all the girls he know. Things like favourite food, color and so on. Would that be OK?
What if he only told his close friends, would that be OK?
As far as I know the "PokeDex" does not contain addresses or phone numbers, just preferences!
@@floend4810 that’s still hella weird
@@avamarie660 So women talking about everything with their best friends is also "hella weird"??
@@floend4810did you forget about the part that he was sharing that info as a guide to impress the women mentioned better? And also the fact he literally described it as a Pokedex and such? You are skimming over the important stuff that makes it way more weird
@@floend4810 if she was doing it so her friends could know how to get with them next, then yea absolutely
That man let his gf who got attacked at work cook while crying and also insulted her culture and didn't show any compassion for her struggles and suggested she should "just leave". WOW he's awful
32:46 i really like the domino sequence of the deafening silence, Jackie’s comment and then EVERYONE just busts out laughing i love that. The chemistry between the ppl on and offscreen here is stellar and knowing Kiana is behind the camera most likely replicating Jackie’s energy is hilarious and heartwarming to me.
Lmao the spaghetti thing probably worked because she was eating noodles and could smell the pasta sauce in the air. That’s literally all you need for tomato “essence” so he did that part right imo. Otherwise the whole thing was rough lol
people being like “I hope that last girl gets the help she needs” but I’ve never had any extremely poor experiences with men and all of her reactions are entirely normal and reasonable.
I mean everyone always tells you to be cautious but you think nothing bad will ACTUALLY happen until it does. The first time I got aggressively hit on I was literally 13/14 while the guy was at least 18 and I had no idea what to do since no one has ever hit on me before. It was on a dark, desolate road, he kept asking for my number and I just kept declining nicely even though it clearly didn't work. Finally i gave him my info, then he hugged me and didn't want to let go and I just let him do whatever he wanted cause I was so desperate to leave. Five years and dozens similar experiences later there's no force on this earth that would make me stop if a creepy guy asked for my number. Her behavior is not weird, they WILL NOT leave you alone unless you respond with the same energy they're giving you. Her boyfriend should be glad he doesn't have to worry about this for himself
@@v_doll damn, I'm sorry :/
bro fr this is just being a woman in our world... what is wrong with that guy
Agreeed. I have had shitty situations with men but even before them I was very cautious. It isn’t fun and it isn’t like we want to do it but we live in this world
the first time I remember being hit on was when I was 14 too, the men who were hitting on me were probably 60+ though. It happened while I was just trying to work at my first job. Fortunately I worked with my older sister, and even if she wasn't working with me my coworkers would let me hide in the back until the creeps left (most of my job was back there anyways).
I'm sure the guy who made the "Pokedex" genuinely believes what he's doing isn't creepy, which makes it kind of hilarious that it's as creepy as it is.
That stuff belongs in a diary at most, not in publicly shared 'spreadsheet' lol
As a person who also can't remember shit about people (sometimes even my close relatives), I understand the rationale of making the "Pokedex" but to share it with others was such a big no-no.
Ya like that jus ruined pokemon for me 😭
@@mrcy9307 the thing is I think we both can see how this happens, like i write notes on my friends att just randomly. Like birthdays are a must, and then your buddy is like "oh when's sarah's birthday" and you say give me a sec and look at what you wrote down cause sarah is your friend. Your friend asks what that is and you show him, now it just spirals out of control. Reminds me of a Zoey 101 episode
@@wanderingrogue3039 I 100% agree!!! Like I remember making lists of things my crushes liked or things about my crushes but it was always in my private journal. Though tbh when I start dating again I might make little spreadsheets. I get dating app guys mixed up all the time like which person has which job, hobbies, etc.
I need that video about Shayne’s weaponized incompetence 😂😂😂 his horrified look of realization was SO INTENSE!! He felt so betrayed by himself! I love how much of an ally he wants to be.
I feel like he he may just have regular incompetence
Right?!? I'm so curious about her examples. Spill the tea!!!
Okay so, pasta story:
One of the things about neurodivergence -- not always, but a pretty common one -- is sensitivity or extreme aversion to certain textures when it comes to food. Learned this while getting tested for being on the spectrum in my mid-20s.
I've been called a picky eater for most of my life, because I have developed a certain set of foods I trust to _not_ have those textures I'm averse to. It has nothing to do with flavor. Something like pizza is always a gamble, because one of those textures for me (like with OP) is an overabundance of marinara sauce; a minor difference in the amount of sauce used will *taste* virtually the same, but if a slice is leaking marinara on each bite, the pizza feels all squishy like someone just piled a layer of slime inside and it almost completely shuts off my sense of taste to magnify the physical _wet_ sensation on my tongue like I'm slurping up someone else's spit and it _makes me want to die._
Though I don't have it with pasta the way they do, so, different strokes. Just saying I see an angle they might be coming from.
... But anyway, if I had a particular way I liked the sauce on pasta dealt with as an adult, I'd just handle adding and washing the sauce off myself.
Oh wow I really wrote all this out before hearing about them dating for 3 years the fuck.
Thanks to Jackie for teaching me the words "weaponized incompetence." One of my ex's would do stuff like load the dishwasher with all the cups and bowls facing up so the dirty water just pooled in them and dry everything on low heat and delicate then leave it damp in the dryer until it reaked of mildew. The most egregious example was when he'd ask me to make sushi when I got home from work and all I asked was for him to rinse the rice for me, gave him detailed instructions on it (I know, I know, how is "rinse the rice" not instructions in and of itself, but he insisted he didn't know how, so I had to step by step explain it to him) only to come home to him having done nothing and saying "Sorry, babe, I couldn't figure out how." I ended up making only a one person serving with heavy wasabi and pickled ginger(which I love but he absolutely could not handle in any capacity) pre-rolled into all of it so he couldn't even beg for some while I ate it.
Now I finally have a term for his behavior.
I once was stuck with a guy like this. I called him out on his bs by saying, "Wow, imagine being soooo manly that you can't even care for yourself without a woman helping you out with everything. Your father must be proud."
The term for his behavior is "trash"
@@linagreenlyfe6705 Absolutely savage, love it 🤌
@@wiffywiffy7896 I've always found it funny that "alpha" males aren't man enough to care for themselves without a woman's help. Doesn't seem alpha to me
Man, I once lived with a guy that me and my other lady roomate had to have an intervention for. We explained exactly what it was that he was doing and how unfair it was to us. I straight up said if he did not know how to properly take care of himself like an adult, then I'd teach him how. He came back to us a week later with a long lengthy apology and said he examined all his prior actions and he had indeed been a POS. He was good for a few months after but I think he slipped into his old bad habits again later on when he could get away with it. 🙄