Omg I was just at Knotts yesterday and my heart broke when I found out it closed. I'm down to start a petition to bring this show back. It was just so magical😭
I'm in I would l0ve this as a child and I love this tale so much I get on here to remember my time as a child and scared at seeing it for the first time as a child but I now realize his message and I to miss my younger days.
It was either the year 1988 or 1989 I remember the old man looking a little different but definitely yes the story and the hologram very beautifully done very well made and I agree it should be back and I definitely agree it's a one beautiful thing that should stay forever. I remember the elder Indian man appearing out of the nowhere but not coming out of the dark back (I could be mistaken but I think this could have been real done to be a real person) I remember the cane stick lifting up from the middle of the floor as his laugh was coming in and then he appeared like as a spirit and the hologram was a little denser and then he had disappeared in the stick at the end felt just like that but again just a little bit different I wish they would make it just like the original
talking to staff members at Knott's all they said we need to do is complain to Knott's Berry farms headquarters from what I understand all it needs is a projector that they're not willing to spend money on it's like a $3,000 projector
@@SamareckRage @Sammyland me too! The show is magical in many ways, the illusions they do are still breathtaking. But people dont realize the story is timeless my favorite line is "time is a trickster first you have it and then its gone. the story teller how much he loves and misses his family that he wants to be with them...guess what the audience is doing...you get them in the feels...
I used to live in southern California now I live in Idaho. I would go to Knott's with my family a lot and I still manage to make a trip back about every other year. And in my opinion this is the most important and grossly underrated attraction there. If you're planning a trip to Knott's, the mystery lodge is an absolute must. And on the same note at Disneyland Great moments with Mr. Lincoln is also just as amazing
Ron Thornton glad you commented. If you were to go now though it’s currently closed. Website says it’s down for refurb other people say it’s closed for good so I don’t know what to believe! I can only hope it does return
100 percent agree with BOTH statements. I hear that M.L. is down foe refurb since last July, and that that the reason for this is that it is broken with only a few who can fix it properly. I hope it reopens soon, hopefully before I come out this summer. I miss this attraction. It is in the top attractions at Knott's imo.
It's now 2022 and sadly, the Mystery Lodge is still closed. I now doubt very much that it will return, as they've even removed the lettering from the sign.
It definitely shares a nice taste of culture but most people don’t realize the story can really touch people for a theme park show. The story teller talks about the times he enjoyed even though it’s all gone now but the time he really cherished the people he loved, Guess what the audience is doing today…
I only ever got to see this show once when I was about 12 and I never forgot it was completely entranced by it. Watching it now all these years later I’m sitting here with tears in my eyes feeling like I did when I was a child. Thanks for posting!
Loved this show (Spirit Lodge) when it premiered at Expo86 in Vancouver. Was ecstatic when it opened at Knott's Berry Farm a few years later. I made sure to see it on each visit. The preshow (missing from this video) was extremely important to the main presentation. Not only in setting up the show but in preparing the non-native audience the privilege of seeing into a long house of this particular Pacific Northwest Tribe. (The Kwalcaula Speaking People).
This show could not have been made without the consultation and approval from the tribes presented. For an amusement park, Mystery Lodge was done very respectfully while educating and entertaining guests. It will be greatly missed.
I wish Knott's Berry farm would invest the money to fix the projector on this thing so we could have this amazing show back this is one of the best thank you for posting
Oh my god, me and my best friend been quoting "oh it's you" ever since my first visit to Knotts Berry Farm. This show was a trip. We were mind blown at the effects, of course we were super young but we still quote those first words years later. It became an inside joke for us. Not to make fun of it but how we really got into the story.
Wonder if we can start some type of petition to get people to sign online or something? Used to watch this as a kid and now as an adult I cant enjoy it anymore. Been checking every time I go and just found out its closed. Really want to see this again live.
i remember, this was always my favorite thing, id always go when i went with my family, its heartbreaking to finally figure out that it closed in summer of 2019 , ill miss it, knotts says that theres no confirmed date of it coming back, and we all know, that it isnt coming back :(
@@Sean_from_the_heights Pepper's Ghost effect is used since 19th century in theatres, and since about 1950, in theme parks. Whether it's called "Holavision" (a 'BRC Imagination Arts' tradename) or just applied from scratch (no patent resides on it), is not of much importance. Fact is that in the execution of a Pepper's Ghost effect, a wide range of quality differences exist, both technically and contentwise ! The classic version is the appearance of a physical set/actor as the ghost, the newer (but by far not always better) version, is making use of projection on the transparent screen. I've seen from the exquisite best (totally convincing "appearance" out of thin air, sharp and crisp...) to the riduculous worst crap (reflecting whatever other stuff and lightspots around while not even showing the 'ghost' clearly recognisible). The crap examples bring a bad name to the effect, making people think about it as "cheap fun fair amusement". It's a pity. I try to understand however, why you say "along with the illusion live is incredible no one else uses it" ? Indeed, in Mystery Lodge it's the theatrical variant which was the 19th century origin of the effect. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Peppers_Ghost.jpg/1200px-Peppers_Ghost.jpg However, Here: life actor on stage, projected ghost. In 19th century's origin : life actor on stage, life actor under the stage. In most theme park applications, we see either 'life setup' (like an animatronic instead of life actor) on stage, combined with either 'life setup' under or aside from stage, OR 'projection'. (Makes 4 different options in total) Apart from Disney, some of the best examples (dozens !!) can be found in Efteling theme park, with both full scene, or detail scene arrangements, and both making use of 'life setups' and 'projections'. One of those is just as convincing as in Mystery Lodge, it's the fairy tale animatronic show "The little match girl" , where the ghostly appearances are projection, so convincing you see the dieing girl (animatronic) becoming a white ghost and joining her grandmother ghost to raise to heaven above the roofs of the city. (It's the only theme park attraction I know, where visitors sometimes cry) CHEERS
I cannot thank you enough for making this excellent recording and posting it. I love this story/show, and am so afraid it may not be restored at Knott's. You have done many people a great service!
Thank you for this! I remember going to Knott’s as a kid when Mystery Lodge just opened so many years ago. I loved it then and growing up I feel even more connected to the message. It’s hard to believe this little show left such a mark.
Most people don’t expect that when they step into this show. When the original show was from 86 world expo it was a a different story with the title called “Spirit Lodge.” When they were bringing it to the parks not only did the rename the show but they decided to redo the story where they know it would be timeless with the meaning you get from it. So from 1994-2018(possibly reopening) the story kept people connected. With it’s one of kind magic of stage illusion it really brought people to come back again and again. The one line that always gets me thinking is “like raven time is a trickster first you have it and then it’s gone.”
@@Sean_from_the_heights I haven't been to Knott's Berry Farm since 2016, and I heard they got rid of Mystery Lodge, is that true? I really hope not bc it really was my favorite show there and if so that's very saddening and I will miss it
You’re welcome it really is a piece of treasure of how magical the show really is not only the unique special FX but it’s the actual story that you don’t realize until you walk out. We can only hope the show returns as the maintenance task has been very challenging to get it back
I haven't been to Knott's since the Pandemic started, and I am so sad that my principal reason for going to Knott's is no longer there. Why the heck did they close it? It was their finest show!!!
I remember first seeing this when I was 17. I got a Season Pass all these years later and it is gone... I can't thank you enough for archiving this experience. Knott's needs to stop doing stupid things like having vendors that belong at the Cypress College Swapmeet and start bringing back stuff like Mystery Lodge.
This attraction will always be a favorite of mine, right behind Ghostrider and Xcelerator (yeah I know you can't really compare something like this to roller coasters). The special effects are astounding even today, and adding that dash of dare I say it, education to a day of riding rides is a really good compliment. Probably one of the few attractions of this type that isn't in need up an update after all these years.
This show always touched me, theres a picture of a native american chief named Thunder Rolling Down the Mountain or close to that me and my dad and unlce look like him although we are not sure if we are native american. The Mystery Lodge is Great it really puts things in perspective.
It’s a beautiful attraction, no one really expects to embrace the story you get out of it and of course the illusions you get from it that you never see anywhere else in the world. I’m 31 and the magic still amazes me when he appears and disappears
Yeah it had a long run when it opened in 1994. It’s still up in limbo to determine the future of it the stage and theatre is still intact but the technology has been a problem to fix/replace. I can imagine how well it received considering it was the last production to be built for the Knott’s family. The fact it ran so long was more than just the illusions they displayed but it was the story that was timeless.
I went to knotts on 11/06/2023 and i asked an employee in the gift shop right when the Mystery Lodge was at and asked him why it closed.... he told me it shut down in 2019 because a part that helped do the lighting and the hologram broke and they couldn't find a replacement for it, so they had to shut it down. Hopefully it does return
Ya this is my favorite place knotts but if scared me 😭 because the lightning and the crooked beak and the dzunuk wa. But I loved this it was so real. But the last time I went there I started to notice things. Like him running to the corner and the mask. But I felt bad because I realized I was getting older. But I still really want to go there. For me it still hasn’t lost its magic.
@@ethansalvari and the reason you see him moving is because you’ve seen it for so long you begin to look for things now. Not a bad thing as I’m a magician I know how this trick works along with other secrets that I will keep hidden of how they pull some things off but never feel it lost the magic
@@Sean_from_the_heights As they always say, the real magic is the presentation, and this show *really* did that so well. Fingers crossed it makes a return because it's really just so special
Hi Sean! I'm putting together a video on the history of the Mystery Lodge. Would it be possible to use clips from this video (with credit)? There's very little footage available of this amazing attraction :(
Sorry for the late reply, I saw your video so I appreciate the credit and you did a great job. I’m also trying to find other footage other than mine that looks like official recordings that you showed
@@Sean_from_the_heights it took me a thousand times watching it from every angle to finally see the illusion, but it never took away from the magic. Still my favorite show at the park. I hope they get the new part soon, old technology is being replaced at a snails pace.
Supposedly to be under refurb but it’s been a couple years. A major part went out so finding a new source when the original company went of business is not making it easy
I miss the hoop dancer that danced at Knott's Berry Farm in the old west calico ghost town. I feel the amusement park has erased all native representation in the park, because they are afraid of complaints of how the indigenous people are represented. They even got rid of the magical MYSTERY LODGE. 😢
Omg I was just at Knotts yesterday and my heart broke when I found out it closed. I'm down to start a petition to bring this show back. It was just so magical😭
I’m in!!
Wait forever???
I'm in I would l0ve this as a child and I love this tale so much I get on here to remember my time as a child and scared at seeing it for the first time as a child but I now realize his message and I to miss my younger days.
It was either the year 1988 or 1989
I remember the old man looking a little different but definitely yes the story and the hologram very beautifully done very well made and I agree it should be back and I definitely agree it's a one beautiful thing that should stay forever.
I remember the elder Indian man appearing out of the nowhere but not coming out of the dark back (I could be mistaken but I think this could have been real done to be a real person)
I remember the cane stick lifting up from the middle of the floor as his laugh was coming in and then he appeared like as a spirit and the hologram was a little denser and then he had disappeared in the stick at the end felt just like that but again just a little bit different I wish they would make it just like the original
Me too
Please bring this back , I tried to take my kids to see this just like my parents took me. I’ll never ever forget this show…
This is one of the best shows I seen,I wish they can haves back.
talking to staff members at Knott's all they said we need to do is complain to Knott's Berry farms headquarters from what I understand all it needs is a projector that they're not willing to spend money on it's like a $3,000 projector
@@joshuatoro8977 that’s cedar fair that needs to get word since this is the last attraction from the Knott’s family
I wish they would bring this back. A one-of-a-kind show that you would never see anywhere else.
I love this show so much. I saw it every time I went to Knotts. I really hope it comes back.
It’s always a must do when I go too. Right now it’s not sounding good on the future of the show :(
@@Sean_from_the_heights I hope the rumors are wrong ☹️
@@SamareckRage @Sammyland me too! The show is magical in many ways, the illusions they do are still breathtaking. But people dont realize the story is timeless my favorite line is "time is a trickster first you have it and then its gone. the story teller how much he loves and misses his family that he wants to be with them...guess what the audience is doing...you get them in the feels...
Me too
I used to live in southern California now I live in Idaho. I would go to Knott's with my family a lot and I still manage to make a trip back about every other year. And in my opinion this is the most important and grossly underrated attraction there. If you're planning a trip to Knott's, the mystery lodge is an absolute must. And on the same note at Disneyland Great moments with Mr. Lincoln is also just as amazing
Ron Thornton glad you commented. If you were to go now though it’s currently closed. Website says it’s down for refurb other people say it’s closed for good so I don’t know what to believe! I can only hope it does return
100 percent agree with BOTH statements. I hear that M.L. is down foe refurb since last July, and that that the reason for this is that it is broken with only a few who can fix it properly. I hope it reopens soon, hopefully before I come out this summer. I miss this attraction. It is in the top attractions at Knott's imo.
@@Sean_from_the_heights
Let's hope ot does reopen. They should make a big deal out of the reopening as well. Hopefully it gets some real TLC.
vikingshelm we can only hope
It's now 2022 and sadly, the Mystery Lodge is still closed. I now doubt very much that it will return, as they've even removed the lettering from the sign.
I remember the first time I visited the Mystery Lodge and it brought me closer to respect Native American culture
It definitely shares a nice taste of culture but most people don’t realize the story can really touch people for a theme park show. The story teller talks about the times he enjoyed even though it’s all gone now but the time he really cherished the people he loved, Guess what the audience is doing today…
Me too.
I only ever got to see this show once when I was about 12 and I never forgot it was completely entranced by it. Watching it now all these years later I’m sitting here with tears in my eyes feeling like I did when I was a child. Thanks for posting!
The magic and the story never gets old :)
Loved this show (Spirit Lodge) when it premiered at Expo86 in Vancouver. Was ecstatic when it opened at Knott's Berry Farm a few years later. I made sure to see it on each visit. The preshow (missing from this video) was extremely important to the main presentation. Not only in setting up the show but in preparing the non-native audience the privilege of seeing into a long house of this particular Pacific Northwest Tribe.
(The Kwalcaula Speaking People).
This show could not have been made without the consultation and approval from the tribes presented. For an amusement park, Mystery Lodge was done very respectfully while educating and entertaining guests. It will be greatly missed.
I wish Knott's Berry farm would invest the money to fix the projector on this thing so we could have this amazing show back this is one of the best thank you for posting
I used to love this show! Every time we would go to knotts I would make sure we always went to see this show! I miss it!!!
BRING IT BACK!!!!
Me too.
I LOVED THIS, I WISH THEY WOULD BRING IT BACK❤
I grew up watching this show I’m glad someone taped it since it’s gone. It was incredibly special
man i miss this show. As a kid it was my favorite part of our trip to knotts.
Me too.
When I was a child I use to go to this show all the time, I miss Knott's! 🥲
9:08 me too.
Oh my god, me and my best friend been quoting "oh it's you" ever since my first visit to Knotts Berry Farm. This show was a trip. We were mind blown at the effects, of course we were super young but we still quote those first words years later. It became an inside joke for us. Not to make fun of it but how we really got into the story.
Wonder if we can start some type of petition to get people to sign online or something? Used to watch this as a kid and now as an adult I cant enjoy it anymore. Been checking every time I go and just found out its closed. Really want to see this again live.
The best show ever ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
My favorite show.
i remember, this was always my favorite thing, id always go when i went with my family, its heartbreaking to finally figure out that it closed in summer of 2019 , ill miss it, knotts says that theres no confirmed date of it coming back, and we all know, that it isnt coming back :(
I remember seeing this, it was amazing!!
Adrian Maldonado the technology of its time along with the illusion live is incredible no one else uses it
@@Sean_from_the_heights Pepper's Ghost effect is used since 19th century in theatres, and since about 1950, in theme parks. Whether it's called "Holavision" (a 'BRC Imagination Arts' tradename) or just applied from scratch (no patent resides on it), is not of much importance. Fact is that in the execution of a Pepper's Ghost effect, a wide range of quality differences exist, both technically and contentwise ! The classic version is the appearance of a physical set/actor as the ghost, the newer (but by far not always better) version, is making use of projection on the transparent screen. I've seen from the exquisite best (totally convincing "appearance" out of thin air, sharp and crisp...) to the riduculous worst crap (reflecting whatever other stuff and lightspots around while not even showing the 'ghost' clearly recognisible). The crap examples bring a bad name to the effect, making people think about it as "cheap fun fair amusement". It's a pity. I try to understand however, why you say "along with the illusion live is incredible no one else uses it" ? Indeed, in Mystery Lodge it's the theatrical variant which was the 19th century origin of the effect. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Peppers_Ghost.jpg/1200px-Peppers_Ghost.jpg However, Here: life actor on stage, projected ghost. In 19th century's origin : life actor on stage, life actor under the stage. In most theme park applications, we see either 'life setup' (like an animatronic instead of life actor) on stage, combined with either 'life setup' under or aside from stage, OR 'projection'. (Makes 4 different options in total) Apart from Disney, some of the best examples (dozens !!) can be found in Efteling theme park, with both full scene, or detail scene arrangements, and both making use of 'life setups' and 'projections'. One of those is just as convincing as in Mystery Lodge, it's the fairy tale animatronic show "The little match girl" , where the ghostly appearances are projection, so convincing you see the dieing girl (animatronic) becoming a white ghost and joining her grandmother ghost to raise to heaven above the roofs of the city. (It's the only theme park attraction I know, where visitors sometimes cry) CHEERS
I cannot thank you enough for making this excellent recording and posting it. I love this story/show, and am so afraid it may not be restored at Knott's. You have done many people a great service!
Never say never it’s quite possible the magic may return just will take more time but you never know
@@Sean_from_the_heights Hope you are right! Thanks again!
Thank you for this! I remember going to Knott’s as a kid when Mystery Lodge just opened so many years ago. I loved it then and growing up I feel even more connected to the message. It’s hard to believe this little show left such a mark.
Most people don’t expect that when they step into this show. When the original show was from 86 world expo it was a a different story with the title called “Spirit Lodge.” When they were bringing it to the parks not only did the rename the show but they decided to redo the story where they know it would be timeless with the meaning you get from it. So from 1994-2018(possibly reopening) the story kept people connected. With it’s one of kind magic of stage illusion it really brought people to come back again and again. The one line that always gets me thinking is “like raven time is a trickster first you have it and then it’s gone.”
@@Sean_from_the_heights I haven't been to Knott's Berry Farm since 2016, and I heard they got rid of Mystery Lodge, is that true? I really hope not bc it really was my favorite show there and if so that's very saddening and I will miss it
Thanks for this treasure!! 😇🙏🙏💕
You’re welcome it really is a piece of treasure of how magical the show really is not only the unique special FX but it’s the actual story that you don’t realize until you walk out. We can only hope the show returns as the maintenance task has been very challenging to get it back
@@Sean_from_the_heights Yes!! The story... I too wish to see it come back
Please bring this back!
I haven't been to Knott's since the Pandemic started, and I am so sad that my principal reason for going to Knott's is no longer there. Why the heck did they close it? It was their finest show!!!
Does anyone know is this great mystery lodge gone ??? I loved it.
we need to start a protest at Knott's Berry farm and everyone needs to start emailing nuts to get this show back
I hope it comes back when I go
Love this show as a kid and know as a adult
To this day it still amazes me for the uniqueness of the stage illusions I just hope they can fix the show as it’s been closed indefinitely
I hope it reopens soon i cant wait
Me too.
I remember first seeing this when I was 17. I got a Season Pass all these years later and it is gone... I can't thank you enough for archiving this experience. Knott's needs to stop doing stupid things like having vendors that belong at the Cypress College Swapmeet and start bringing back stuff like Mystery Lodge.
This attraction will always be a favorite of mine, right behind Ghostrider and Xcelerator (yeah I know you can't really compare something like this to roller coasters). The special effects are astounding even today, and adding that dash of dare I say it, education to a day of riding rides is a really good compliment. Probably one of the few attractions of this type that isn't in need up an update after all these years.
The only update we can hope for is replace the technology that finally went out that put the show for a long refurbishment.
This show always touched me, theres a picture of a native american chief named Thunder Rolling Down the Mountain or close to that me and my dad and unlce look like him although we are not sure if we are native american. The Mystery Lodge is Great it really puts things in perspective.
It’s a beautiful attraction, no one really expects to embrace the story you get out of it and of course the illusions you get from it that you never see anywhere else in the world. I’m 31 and the magic still amazes me when he appears and disappears
I don’t know if, mystery lodge is coming back anytime 🔜. I mean, I loved thsi show as a kid.
Wow this ran all the way to 2019?!! I assumed it closed years back. I was there shortly after it first opened. It was heavily advertised.
Yeah it had a long run when it opened in 1994. It’s still up in limbo to determine the future of it the stage and theatre is still intact but the technology has been a problem to fix/replace. I can imagine how well it received considering it was the last production to be built for the Knott’s family. The fact it ran so long was more than just the illusions they displayed but it was the story that was timeless.
I went to knotts on 11/06/2023 and i asked an employee in the gift shop right when the Mystery Lodge was at and asked him why it closed.... he told me it shut down in 2019 because a part that helped do the lighting and the hologram broke and they couldn't find a replacement for it, so they had to shut it down. Hopefully it does return
Cool 😎👍
This show was something positive in the world and I wish it would come back. Only complaint is they need an updated old man mask.
Ya this is my favorite place knotts but if scared me 😭 because the lightning and the crooked beak and the dzunuk wa. But I loved this it was so real. But the last time I went there I started to notice things. Like him running to the corner and the mask. But I felt bad because I realized I was getting older. But I still really want to go there. For me it still hasn’t lost its magic.
Yeah the mask needs work but overall the illusions were amazing
@@ethansalvari and the reason you see him moving is because you’ve seen it for so long you begin to look for things now. Not a bad thing as I’m a magician I know how this trick works along with other secrets that I will keep hidden of how they pull some things off but never feel it lost the magic
@@Sean_from_the_heights I think I saw home because he tripped 😂😂😭😭😭
@@Sean_from_the_heights As they always say, the real magic is the presentation, and this show *really* did that so well. Fingers crossed it makes a return because it's really just so special
I’m so mad at covid rn 😭😭
Hi Sean! I'm putting together a video on the history of the Mystery Lodge. Would it be possible to use clips from this video (with credit)? There's very little footage available of this amazing attraction :(
Sorry for the late reply, I saw your video so I appreciate the credit and you did a great job. I’m also trying to find other footage other than mine that looks like official recordings that you showed
Why was this attraction now closed? It's been closed in the park for years already!
So sad this is gone. It didn’t even get a proper farewell.
I know it happened so sodden due to technical issues
I understand the Peppers Ghost affect but how does the cane stay in place?
It’s simple but such a strong effect but as a magician myself I can’t reveal the secret but it works :)
Don't ask questions
@@Sean_from_the_heights it took me a thousand times watching it from every angle to finally see the illusion, but it never took away from the magic. Still my favorite show at the park. I hope they get the new part soon, old technology is being replaced at a snails pace.
@@vikidominguez3108 it’s really clever it’s more than just peppers ghost
@@Sean_from_the_heights yes it is more than just a pepper ghost. it is truly magical . hoping they get the right part soon.
Is this still at knotts ?
Supposedly to be under refurb but it’s been a couple years. A major part went out so finding a new source when the original company went of business is not making it easy
I miss the hoop dancer that danced at Knott's Berry Farm in the old west calico ghost town. I feel the amusement park has erased all native representation in the park, because they are afraid of complaints of how the indigenous people are represented. They even got rid of the magical MYSTERY LODGE. 😢