Brazilian wife: "I'll sit here with my arms crossed and a frown until he realizes what he did wrong." British husband: "What a peaceful, wonderful, calm day."
Seeing an Englishman say that he has never seen a man in England have another family or that he has never witnessed many cases of infidelity... Well, just look at the British royal family to get a sample of British male behavior. The Queen Consort of England was the former mistress of the current king. There isn't a man in the royal family who hasn't cheated. Today, it's easier to prevent the king or prince from getting a mistress pregnant and forming a family outside of marriage, but it wasn't always like that in the past. The famous bastards were numerous. And King Charles himself took Camilla everywhere, spending more time with her than with his wife. And this is considering we're talking about a family that can't make a misstep without everyone knowing, and yet they can't contain themselves... So what can be said about the average Englishman who doesn't have tabloids following and investigating his life 24 hours a day? The idea that Brazilian or Latin American men cheat more, are womanizers, or are simply unreliable in a relationship is just another prejudice, another depreciative stereotype created by the white European man to say: "White European men are trustworthy, Latinos are not." The same happens with Latin American women, who are associated with the stereotype of being "easy." But anyone who has had the opportunity to go to Europe and has had minimal interaction with European women, especially Nordic ones, will notice that it's much easier to get them into bed on the first date than with a Brazilian/Latina. The difference is that, in the case of European women, this is seen as a sign that they are strong, independent, and free to do whatever they want with their bodies, just like any man. And it's true, they are all of these things, and there's nothing wrong with that. But when a Latin American woman does the same, it's because she's "easy." The same thing happens with Latin American men.
Exactly! They think euopeans are the exemplo of good behaviour when in reality they're Just like any human being, the only diference is the carácter.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Good point. I never thought that LA women were seen as "easy" though "spicy" maybe. I do think that Brazilian women in particular are highly sexualised, but not all LA women are seen this way.
I am Brazilian too. It's not about having secondary long lasting relationships. Brazilian promiscuity is on the same level of French and Spanish individuals. Italians, English, Polish and Danes are much less promiscuous.
About we brazilians saying "let's have a coffee together" or something the like, I think that what you don't get from this speech is that we're letting you know that we're available. What we're actually saying when we make those comments is "in case you want to do something with me, like go out, go to the movies, restaurants, I'll be available so you can call me to really schedule it if you want"... it's our way of showing we would enjoy spending time with you without actually putting the pressure on you of really having to come up with something on the dot
One thing that he got wrong is that people don’t go out during the week, in São Paulo there are events and parties all week long, people always go out, even when they are married, every day you have many options, theatre, art events, movies, a lot of clubs. São Paulo never sleeps, much more than London
Thats about right. I have lived in both cities and I can say both of them never sleeps in some spots a d do sleep in others but there are far more spots that never sleeps in Sao Paulo then there are in London. A lot of music venues, clubs, bars , etc...like it is in old town consolação, augusta, praça roosvelt versus camdem town...He is just staying far from these places , thats all.
I found this in England too. I lived there for ane and a half years about 8 years ago and I could not make a single English friend. Everyone was reservedly polite, mostly kind and could be quite helpful but they were hard to get to know in any deep way. I however left there with 2 friends from Spain, one from Lesotho, one from Australia and one from Greece and we still keep in touch today. Thank God for them.
I had a very good experience in the U K with a lot of very friendly and helpfull people. They would give me a loads of free advice as they really did care about my wellbeing and safety. Its not as safe as a Brazillian person would think but the people are so sweet I still have good friends from there that we meet evry now and then... every 3 years of so I convince someone to come and visit. Always very caring, polite and respectful. I have absolutelly nothing to complain about these guys. Also they always seem very curious and open to Brazilians. They opened their hearts and homes to me. I dont know if I made the gringo effect on them or what, but they made my life there very smooth. Cheers guys!
I’m from São Paulo and live in England. There are lots of smaller gigs / bands in São Paulo. There’s a great music scene there (more alternative, almost like in London) but it’s a bit hidden, I guess. Also, about being an introvert in Brazil - there are plenty of people like that, i.e. quietly sitting at a corner, reading a book and drinking coffee or tea. I do that all the time. 😅 And…About Brazilian men not being trustworthy - there are a lot of different types of Brazilian people. A LOT. It’s impossible to generalise. And there are guys who are very decent and honest too.
The UK is an "erotic desert"! I've been living in London for 17 years as a Brazilian, and the difference between these two countries is immense. Of course, both have their own qualities, but in Brazil, we don't "fear" others. If we're interested in someone, we simply express it. In the UK, it feels like we have to hide our feelings and hope the other person figures it out and takes the lead. Naturally, this approach never really works.
In Brazil, on weekdays, we may see or talk to friends and neighbors in the evening a bit, even go out for a little street food in our neighborhoods, but going out to socialize/have fun/party is Friday and Saturday. Friday night we call 'o dia internacional da cerveja'.
at 13:10, when he talks about people not getting out of their houses mid week, thats maybe more of Sao Paulo's "tradition". I work from home and live at Sao Paulo, but the company I work for is from Rio de Janeiro, when I have to go there to work, I end up going out every single day to do something, cause everyone does it and you almost feel compeled to do so
@@scarba I've watched German channels who do vox pops in Berlin and people will comment: "It's not always like this all over Germany, Berlin is different" or a DBB vox pop in Amsterdam will get the same response. Capital cities aren't representative of the whole country.
Living in London atm is like living in an incredibly alienating dystopia. It has a lot of things Brazil doesn't, you have everything you need, it has many more opportunities than third-world countries (even though you're competing with the whole world with them). However, unfortunately, many things have contributed to it being one of the most isolating, depressing places long term - including high cost of living, wages that have been stagnant since 2008 pretty much and not rose with inflation, cold british culture, social media, post covid anxiety and awkwardness, late-stage capitalism. You will experience your odd good day here but most days are like a long, arduous slog, it is not like real life, it is a hell we seem to have created - it is very very rare you will experience joy here. Meanwhile, you can still taste joy frequently in a country like Brazil because people make a conscious effort to create joy from nothing, and you can tap into that. I will also add, that it it is a place with very high rents and the only working/middle class people that can afford to live here and raise families are those that bought houses like 20 years ago or those who live in social housing, which is like winning the lottery. Great place to visit, you will be inspired by all the great works and people around you, but I feel like i've wasted my 20s living here with literally nothing to show for it. Oh and the high rents mean it is absolutely terrible for your sex life here unless you have enough to live by yourself, throw in things like the extremely transient nature of people here and a cold isolating culture and it's not uncommon for people to be single for like 3/4 years on average. A lot of extremely attractive single people here which sounds like an oxymoron almost, but that's London.
Can totally relate to that. I lives in London for 3.5 years and always Felt lonely só used to fill my emptyness going to shops and ALL that crap but I was never satisfied. Went to university in Ireland which was slightly better because i was in college and managed tô make a couple of good friends im still in touch. As soon as i finish college I returned tô Brazil. It was a good experience but home is always home. Brazil hás its problems but It is where I feel happy and home. Europe for me now is just holidays, nothing else.
@@robsonfrancescato1557 Absolute waste mate, even if i'd been scrupulous with my finances since 18 and acquired a mortgage at this point in my life, i'd be saddled down with mortgage repayments monthly and would I be any happier ? Doubt it.
"late-stage capitalism" there is nothing capitalist about modern europe, what you are experiencing is late stage social democracy with a touch of fascism (or corporatism), your ancestors sold your generation into slavery so they could have a welfare state without them actually having to fund them in their lifetime. Your generation is the one stuck with the unpayable bill, which instead of defaulting your governments decided they wanted to import more slaves from the third world to try to pay it, the problem is that those people are not skilled workers and are taking even more out of the system.
I find fascinating the difference between this man's portrayal of the English society differs from that of Joel Willan. They're both speaking about the same country and still you get to see here how London seems a completely separate unit, different personality and relationships going on there. Big city things I reckon.
As a certified Brazilian, I can confirm that me too am annoyed with noise, but I am the exception. Also, what I love about my people is it's ingenuity and creativity, when put to good use of course.
Its not all brits, but the more "celtic" types, the typical brit with pale skin and very dark hair.. but there are also some blonde brits and they can tan better, specially those who are more germanic/contiental and less celtic/insular in genetics
Poor guy lives in São Paulo. It's grey, no beaches and, since it's so big, you just drive your car anywhere instead of walking. As someone from the sunny side of Brazil (Bahia), I find São Paulo super depressing.
I remember Europe... people threw bananas at Neymar in Wembley, nobody got arrested, but racism was not a problem in London. Brazil is more like the USA, we do have problems, and we at least try to deal with them.
"Culture shock"? Oh c'mon man. It's 2024. By now we all know at least a few things about every country in the world and we're smart enough to understand that EVERY single country is a complex tetris game where you can't simply describe them in a single line. Brazilians are as diverse as all humans can be.
I always get a bit weirded out when people from western Europe and North America say "culture shock". Brazil is a Judeo-Christian culture with a democratic system and where men and women have the same rights. It's actually pretty similar. Some people are warmer than others. Cost of living and weather has to do with this. But I wouldn't exactly call it a culture shock. I would say going to Saudi Arabia or India would be a culture shock for a western European or North American, not Latin America, specially Brazil which has a lot of similarities with the USA with a twist. Ive been in Canada for 18 years and never understood this. I moved at 16 already fluent in English and blended in right away so I really don't understand this "shock". I think the cultural differences are very tame and nuanced. The whole partying thing: most Brazilians are not on party mode all the time. Most Brazilians work really hard because the purchasing power of the real is low and Brazil is not a cheap country to live in. Even if you bring dollars with you it's no Thailand. Most Brazilians are more open and do enjoy weekends with friends and family more than North Americans but this perception that they are partying all the time is inaccurate. I live in West Queen west in Toronto and there are clubs and restaurants buzling with activity almost every night. It's just the nature of a city if you are tuned to going out. When you go to a country to work its a different vibe from going there to have fun and on holidays. About the Brazilian guys infidelity thing (Brazilians call it "caixa 2" like a "second bank account") is more common than in western Europe and North America. That is because the culture is so family oriented and marriage is something that most men want there. But the aspect of wanting to be with a bunch of women is just men in general 😂. In North America for example most of the guys want to be poly. Dating in 2024 in North America is a nightmare, it's a struggle to find one guy that is planning on a family. Compare to when I go on a date with a brazilian they're already talking about what his family is like and the family he wants and how many kids. I guess the only difference is that, on average, they are straight up about wanting to be with a bunch of women whereas brazilian men enjoy the family package a bit more than just the getting laid part 😂. Also, let's consider abortion is illegal and extremely frawned upon by society to do that so he is right when he says that when there is an accidental pregnancy they just maintain that side family instead of supporting an illegal abortion.
I know what you mean... I guess its like moving to different parts of Brazil and get a cultural shock, as I always do... its pretty different but still in a little while yiu already get it. Whether in those very different ones milenar cultures you had mentioned , would be just sth else.
There is a big difference for culture of latino countries and anglo-saxons and germanic countries. It's easier from a person from a more open culture to close themselves through social pressure that for a person from a closed culture to open up. One just mean you stay in your lane, the other means you have people trespassing in what you always have perceive as your personal space. Brazilian social norms are almost criminal to countries like Japan and Germany. "We" as a general rule are very loud, very touchy even with strangers, very nousy in other people business (both from a genuine concern to connect and helps as I was seen a history of a Syrian refugee that came with nothing and was completely helped by strangers in Brazil, but also with the intention to gossip), we talk very close to each other which is uncomfortable for people of more reserved cultures, the easy going nature that leads to things like he said that people don't make hard plans and don't stick to them (the old saying of you plan a part at 19 it starts really at 20 or 21 hours), the forced cultural politeness that leads to the indirectness of brazilians to not hurt anyone feelings or not being rude, etc. All of those things are things that are very prevalent and not common in anglo-saxon, germanic, slav, asian, etc countries. Italians, spaniards, portuguese people, etc probably would have this genlte culture shock you talk about. Some of those countries are so close that various brazilian that go there to study and work get depressed because they can't break into any social cycle (because they are very reserved) and become very isolated and solitary. Also the family structure from latin countries are different, which will cause cultural shocks for people that date and marry and have to integrate and navigate those differences. This video goes more in debt on this aspect about the various difference of family structure. ua-cam.com/video/-RFFwhbVqeU/v-deo.html
@@VitorHugoOliveiraSousa german culture differs from British culture beyond explanation. Nope, there is not them and us, but each and every culture and the singularities of a person.
It's because they see us from Latin America as inferior, much different from them. They think only US and (western) Europe are really part of the western world
Loved the podcast! Congrats! The egg car is really noisy😂 Rio was elected by time out the best nightlife in the world! There are samba at Beco do Rato Everyday!!! You should visit!!! Tadeu is more Canadian than Brazilian😅 !
I've seen many people here talking about how this Brazilian men thing is not totally true and thought I'd give my 2 cents =) Given what Freddy said about Gabi and the girls talking, I think it's more about "teaching" the men the way to behave. And in this scenario I think gringos would actually be better, because the woman would be more... intimidating? Since she's louder and more proactive and stuff. So she would have a better opportunity to do this "molding" thing. I think it can be a bit deceiving in the comments because we would have to really separate introverted and extroverted brazilians - since when you're introverted you hang out mostly with introverted people and vice-versa. I think in introverted spaces there's a lot more room for a less standard type of relationship, but I do think that in more outgoing relationships this is pretty accurate. Always with exceptions, sure, but it does seem to be a social pattern. The podcast was super fun! Thanks for being so kind to Brazil and we hope the bad things you didn't say aren't a big deal ♥
The concept of women "shaping" men is super sexist. Imagine describing the opposite, wildly misogynistic right? I think both men and women have their virtues and defects and a good match/couple would complement each other enhancing and taking advantage of their virtues while helping each other to grow and improve their defects. The idea of a couple in which the woman shape the man eventually leads up to a frustrated unhappy men/couple. When the thing is reversed, it might lead not only to unhappiness but also abuse. A healthy couple should help each other grow, but also respect the boundaries of each other personalities. And example is when he talked about respecting his time to read/recharge, and his wife arriving home spent of extrovert activities and having her husband there but respecting her need to rest without nagging.
In the dating scene, brazilian women see gringos as potentially rich, successful, or mature and well traveled, so there's that angle about the high attraction for gringos, the behavior of brazilian men is not really a factor in that.
This was truly a super fun interview. As a brazilian man I have to disagree with the way brazilian man are portrayed. But that's what happen when you try to describe any culture.... you just generalize it. But for the most part is accurate. Great work though.
I saw a lot of brazilians talkin shit about Brazilians, please, just get real about the spot you are getting yourself in... if was that terrible, everyone that come here would already being gone back... and just as we dont know everything that happens everywhere in Brazil, he just said what he got to know in his country, and payig attetion, much less than we do if you take the fact we more open to conversation and histories, so get to know histories there is not like we have access here.
I definitely and 100% do not consider noise pollution okay. I have placed numerous complaints with our local administration, to the point that I was so fed up I just starting cursing at them. I suspect they simply bribe the officers. The *only* thing that *might* work would be for me to start an expensive lawsuit, and even if it works, the offenders will only be replaced by another bar, another loudspeaker, another loud neighbor, etc.
I am 50, born in SP. I have been living in Portugal for almost 2 and a half years. In May this year (2024) I spent 20 days vacation in SP. Jesus...hat place is incredibly noisy. Sound cars, motorbikes, horns, almost 24/7. Where I live now(25km away from Lisbon) after 8pm everything gets quiet.
São Paulo is responsible for 31% of Brazil's GDP, and has one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Without São Paulo, Brazil is just an Africa with water. Respect São Paulo.
The unwanted advertising is something cultural... how are you going to jail someone just because they are trying to make a living?... if you go to better neighborhoods it will be quieter because those people know that they are more likely to lose a customer with those tactics
If you make over 35k us$ year and work from home it is worthy, you gonna live really really well overall, but you do need some kind of knowledge about where you are going or at least some friend to show you the city. 2k a month is like 10k in london monthly so do what you want with this info, but i really recomend to just go visit first for a month or something before a more commitment movement
As a Brazilian I dare to clarify somethings, considering that the guy avoids to talk bad about our country. Before, in general Brzs are more talkative and do small talk for politeness or pure habit, but the introverts like me aren’t rare and you can be one without problem, you’ll just be known as “caladão” (big quiet) amid your friends. People can be friendly, it’s easier to make friends, but in the other hand (the other side of the coin) they also can be more intrusive, inconvenient and not respect your privacy or rights as law silence after 10pm. Summarizing: they can be unfriendly at the same intensity that they are friendly (so the final count may be: zero).
@@andreff8702 Thanks and let me be even more annoying. Some Brzlns have vira-latas complex (how translate? maybe homeless dog* complex), so they act so friendly to English speakers tourists (richer tourists, dolar payers) than to, i.e., Spanish speakers ones (most Latin Americans). I myself saw a Brzln airport employee mistreating Spanish speakers tourists who were just asking for information. So you mustn’t be naive believing that all this so proclaimed Brzln happiness and sympathy is virtuous (only in some cases), cause it can be just shameful subservience, ass kissing and bootlicking. * mutt complex [thanks, GTranslator].
And even more. Some crimes against tourists in Brazil are savage beyond imagination. For example, in Rio de Janeiro a young British couple were kidnapped in Arcos da Lapa, a pretty bohemian place, and the guy had to see his girlfriend being raped by many thugs into the van whiling heading to a favela, place where the girl was offered to be raped even more to another demon. He refused laughing saying “no way, I don’t take remains”. In terms of Rio, they were lucky: liberated afterwards and alive. The police got arrest the thugs weeks later, and so what? Nothing will delete that terrible experience from their minds.
I'm Brazilian, lived legally in UK for a couple of years. I get what he's talking but I would swap Brazil for UK in a blink of an eye. I don't care for the weather or the food. Don't mind English people being more reserved. What is important to me is safety, respect, a lot less corruption, good public service for your taxes...yeah I know isn't perfect but here in Brazil we pay norwegian taxes and get "South sudan" services. It's easy to enjoy all the good stuff we have here when you have a British passport and can go back whenever you want. Try to use public services like health knowing you don't have the option to go to UK. Try to go to public schools and make a carrer. Try to retire here... I get we're his feelings come from. We are much more openned, friendly in the sense it's easy to make friends here and be part of a group but as you get older those things aren't more important than citizenship, having Jobs, health care... I'm NOT saying Brazil don't have it's qualities but the decision to live here has been over simplificated by foreigners.
The social part is huge though. I think you are underestimating that and possibly taking it for granted. People making 100k a year are miserable in the US/UK and would happily trade places with you. Higher salaries don't guarantee a better quality of life as lifestyle creep sets in in addition to the poor social life/dating life.
I'm from Sao Paulo but I have been living in Canada for over then 10 years. That said I think Brazilian service is not that bad at all. At list in São Paulo. Unfortunately Brazilian are a bit ungrateful and judge about public service.
@@decollector95 Well of course not all, but my point is that although a higher salary can buy you a more comfortable life, the trade off is that in the West right now there is low social trust, and people tend to stick with who they've known for a long time. The cultures lead people to isolation and loneliness if they cannot find a good community. You cannot just walk around at night and meet new friends like in Brazil. Totally different attitudes. Brazilians with their social lives are much richer than many Westerners believe it or not. Money can't buy friends or open attitudes but in Brazil you have this built in to the culture for free! I envy Brazilians. I'd rather have the social life than a higher salary any day.
@@Iceman219 Having little social life effects health and creates health problems. So people from those places thinking that the grass is greener in the other side when its not. They should rather focus fixing the problem of the society instead of looking for a greener side.
I was in Manchester for a semester and it felt like a smaller city for me. I’m from São Paulo, so I really don’t understand how chocked people can feel 😂 it’s pretty much the same thing, but people speaking English and a bad weather in a general way… it didn’t feel like I was living in a whole different world! I felt more safe, but again…
Brasilians ADMIRE Americans and feel jealous, would love to live in the US, it's their dream They are probably the most friendly people in the world They also are intimidated by Americans, they will NEVER tell you NO I CAN'T to your face Like the old Carioca story (person from RIO) = They invite you to dinner but don't give you the address ! As an American I have lived in the north and now live in the south of BR, like both for different reasons. Living in the south is a LOT like living in the US, lot of english, culture very similiar (European), weather like Florida where I live. Does freeze further south in RS and snow in the mountains- Curitiba
Don't generalize things, especially assumptions like how we Brazilians feel about Americans. US don't have a lot to be envy for and you probably know it. How about decolonize your comments?
Kkkkkkk😂 sometimes foreigners that are full of themselves ( specially U.S. citizens) can read the daily friendlyness or any other cultural streak in a culture as being submissive to them. But what tgey do not realize is how much they are making a fool of themselves. This days ago I saw a vídeo of another full on U.S. citizen and he was saying his Brazilian girlfriend wld ask his advice as in a female asking permission to a male.. whether she sld get a particular job. The poor guy did not know we Brazilians see our partner as confidents and best friends and we do ask each other's opinions and really listens to that but that at the end of the day the choice is nobody but ours. I felt sorry for him to have such a limited vision and no meaningfull experience in personal relationships.
Brazilian wife: "I'll sit here with my arms crossed and a frown until he realizes what he did wrong." British husband: "What a peaceful, wonderful, calm day."
We both know she wouldnt be silent about it.
I know that feeling!
It's exactly like that with my stubborn American boyfriend. He is adamant and doesn't realize that I'm getting upset.
Seeing an Englishman say that he has never seen a man in England have another family or that he has never witnessed many cases of infidelity... Well, just look at the British royal family to get a sample of British male behavior. The Queen Consort of England was the former mistress of the current king. There isn't a man in the royal family who hasn't cheated. Today, it's easier to prevent the king or prince from getting a mistress pregnant and forming a family outside of marriage, but it wasn't always like that in the past. The famous bastards were numerous. And King Charles himself took Camilla everywhere, spending more time with her than with his wife. And this is considering we're talking about a family that can't make a misstep without everyone knowing, and yet they can't contain themselves... So what can be said about the average Englishman who doesn't have tabloids following and investigating his life 24 hours a day?
The idea that Brazilian or Latin American men cheat more, are womanizers, or are simply unreliable in a relationship is just another prejudice, another depreciative stereotype created by the white European man to say: "White European men are trustworthy, Latinos are not." The same happens with Latin American women, who are associated with the stereotype of being "easy." But anyone who has had the opportunity to go to Europe and has had minimal interaction with European women, especially Nordic ones, will notice that it's much easier to get them into bed on the first date than with a Brazilian/Latina. The difference is that, in the case of European women, this is seen as a sign that they are strong, independent, and free to do whatever they want with their bodies, just like any man. And it's true, they are all of these things, and there's nothing wrong with that. But when a Latin American woman does the same, it's because she's "easy." The same thing happens with Latin American men.
Exactly! They think euopeans are the exemplo of good behaviour when in reality they're Just like any human being, the only diference is the carácter.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Good point. I never thought that LA women were seen as "easy" though "spicy" maybe.
I do think that Brazilian women in particular are highly sexualised, but not all LA women are seen this way.
This this thiiiiiiis so much this!!!! 👌 Spot on
I am Brazilian too.
It's not about having secondary long lasting relationships.
Brazilian promiscuity is on the same level of French and Spanish individuals. Italians, English, Polish and Danes are much less promiscuous.
By-the -way, you've nailed it bro!
About we brazilians saying "let's have a coffee together" or something the like, I think that what you don't get from this speech is that we're letting you know that we're available. What we're actually saying when we make those comments is "in case you want to do something with me, like go out, go to the movies, restaurants, I'll be available so you can call me to really schedule it if you want"... it's our way of showing we would enjoy spending time with you without actually putting the pressure on you of really having to come up with something on the dot
One thing that he got wrong is that people don’t go out during the week, in São Paulo there are events and parties all week long, people always go out, even when they are married, every day you have many options, theatre, art events, movies, a lot of clubs.
São Paulo never sleeps, much more than London
Spot on. Pura verddade.
Might be because he is staying in Zona Norte.
but people are different in Brazil unlike London, New york.
Thats about right. I have lived in both cities and I can say both of them never sleeps in some spots a d do sleep in others but there are far more spots that never sleeps in Sao Paulo then there are in London. A lot of music venues, clubs, bars , etc...like it is in old town consolação, augusta, praça roosvelt versus camdem town...He is just staying far from these places , thats all.
I found this in England too. I lived there for ane and a half years about 8 years ago and I could not make a single English friend. Everyone was reservedly polite, mostly kind and could be quite helpful but they were hard to get to know in any deep way. I however left there with 2 friends from Spain, one from Lesotho, one from Australia and one from Greece and we still keep in touch today. Thank God for them.
I had a very good experience in the U K with a lot of very friendly and helpfull people. They would give me a loads of free advice as they really did care about my wellbeing and safety. Its not as safe as a Brazillian person would think but the people are so sweet I still have good friends from there that we meet evry now and then... every 3 years of so I convince someone to come and visit. Always very caring, polite and respectful. I have absolutelly nothing to complain about these guys. Also they always seem very curious and open to Brazilians. They opened their hearts and homes to me. I dont know if I made the gringo effect on them or what, but they made my life there very smooth. Cheers guys!
I'm from Brazil, living in Sweden... fascinating that story.. I miss São Paulo and people from Brazil.
If so, you are always welcome to return to Brazil. São Paulo must be a lot better than Sweden. Oh, wait.
@@xOrwinx se acalma, nerdola.
relaxa, aqui tá uma merda, como sempre... reze todos os dias por estar onde está, pois tem muita gente passando sufoco aqui
@@theovanhurtere huh?
@@xOrwinx não ficou claro?
I can't stop laughing at the guy who walked off the bus stop because he was so shaken by someone saying hi to him 😂
I’m from São Paulo and live in England. There are lots of smaller gigs / bands in São Paulo. There’s a great music scene there (more alternative, almost like in London) but it’s a bit hidden, I guess.
Also, about being an introvert in Brazil - there are plenty of people like that, i.e. quietly sitting at a corner, reading a book and drinking coffee or tea. I do that all the time. 😅
And…About Brazilian men not being trustworthy - there are a lot of different types of Brazilian people. A LOT. It’s impossible to generalise.
And there are guys who are very decent and honest too.
Yes! Me!
This guy is a real introvert, hehe its actually quite sweet.
The UK is an "erotic desert"!
I've been living in London for 17 years as a Brazilian, and the difference between these two countries is immense. Of course, both have their own qualities, but in Brazil, we don't "fear" others. If we're interested in someone, we simply express it. In the UK, it feels like we have to hide our feelings and hope the other person figures it out and takes the lead. Naturally, this approach never really works.
I m from uk, my wife is from taiwan and we split our time between both places...many culture shocks and learnings
It sounds like fun! One can extract the best from both worlds.
I can understand a gringo moving to Rio but I can't wrap my head around a gringo moving to São Paulo
From London to Sao Paulo, he must love her very much or they are quite wealthy.
In Brazil, on weekdays, we may see or talk to friends and neighbors in the evening a bit, even go out for a little street food in our neighborhoods, but going out to socialize/have fun/party is Friday and Saturday. Friday night we call 'o dia internacional da cerveja'.
at 13:10, when he talks about people not getting out of their houses mid week, thats maybe more of Sao Paulo's "tradition". I work from home and live at Sao Paulo, but the company I work for is from Rio de Janeiro, when I have to go there to work, I end up going out every single day to do something, cause everyone does it and you almost feel compeled to do so
London is very much the exception culturally from the rest of the UK where people are generally much friendlier and open and welcoming.
@@decollector95 yes
Isn’t that the case everywhere? Capital cities are generally exceptional.
@@rejectionisprotection4448 maybe? I was just pointing out the cultural differences don’t apply to the whole of the UK.
@@scarba I've watched German channels who do vox pops in Berlin and people will comment: "It's not always like this all over Germany, Berlin is different" or a DBB vox pop in Amsterdam will get the same response.
Capital cities aren't representative of the whole country.
@@rejectionisprotection4448 yes, that’s my point. London doesn’t represent British culture. The countries of the UK are very different too.
Living in London atm is like living in an incredibly alienating dystopia. It has a lot of things Brazil doesn't, you have everything you need, it has many more opportunities than third-world countries (even though you're competing with the whole world with them). However, unfortunately, many things have contributed to it being one of the most isolating, depressing places long term - including high cost of living, wages that have been stagnant since 2008 pretty much and not rose with inflation, cold british culture, social media, post covid anxiety and awkwardness, late-stage capitalism.
You will experience your odd good day here but most days are like a long, arduous slog, it is not like real life, it is a hell we seem to have created - it is very very rare you will experience joy here. Meanwhile, you can still taste joy frequently in a country like Brazil because people make a conscious effort to create joy from nothing, and you can tap into that.
I will also add, that it it is a place with very high rents and the only working/middle class people that can afford to live here and raise families are those that bought houses like 20 years ago or those who live in social housing, which is like winning the lottery. Great place to visit, you will be inspired by all the great works and people around you, but I feel like i've wasted my 20s living here with literally nothing to show for it.
Oh and the high rents mean it is absolutely terrible for your sex life here unless you have enough to live by yourself, throw in things like the extremely transient nature of people here and a cold isolating culture and it's not uncommon for people to be single for like 3/4 years on average. A lot of extremely attractive single people here which sounds like an oxymoron almost, but that's London.
Can totally relate to that. I lives in London for 3.5 years and always Felt lonely só used to fill my emptyness going to shops and ALL that crap but I was never satisfied. Went to university in Ireland which was slightly better because i was in college and managed tô make a couple of good friends im still in touch. As soon as i finish college I returned tô Brazil. It was a good experience but home is always home. Brazil hás its problems but It is where I feel happy and home. Europe for me now is just holidays, nothing else.
Having lived in London for 11 years I couldn't agree more. I feel like I've wasted those years.
@@robsonfrancescato1557 Absolute waste mate, even if i'd been scrupulous with my finances since 18 and acquired a mortgage at this point in my life, i'd be saddled down with mortgage repayments monthly and would I be any happier ? Doubt it.
"late-stage capitalism" there is nothing capitalist about modern europe, what you are experiencing is late stage social democracy with a touch of fascism (or corporatism), your ancestors sold your generation into slavery so they could have a welfare state without them actually having to fund them in their lifetime. Your generation is the one stuck with the unpayable bill, which instead of defaulting your governments decided they wanted to import more slaves from the third world to try to pay it, the problem is that those people are not skilled workers and are taking even more out of the system.
@@VitorHugoOliveiraSousa eu gosto de gente burra e desinibida. Comenta mais, eu quero continuar dando risada.
I find fascinating the difference between this man's portrayal of the English society differs from that of Joel Willan. They're both speaking about the same country and still you get to see here how London seems a completely separate unit, different personality and relationships going on there. Big city things I reckon.
People don't have the same experiences
As a certified Brazilian, I can confirm that me too am annoyed with noise, but I am the exception. Also, what I love about my people is it's ingenuity and creativity, when put to good use of course.
Go Freddy!! Rio muito com parada Inglesa!
At 15:00 is that a You Tube cushion in the corner? If so, it looks pretty cool!
Olá Marina!Você foi bem assertiva em sua avaliação,muito divertidos os seus vídeos.
Obrigada Natalia 😁
Looks like the Brits don't get tanned even though they settle down in South America
Its not all brits, but the more "celtic" types, the typical brit with pale skin and very dark hair.. but there are also some blonde brits and they can tan better, specially those who are more germanic/contiental and less celtic/insular in genetics
It depends whether they go out in the Sun or not...
It's not like u get much sun in São Paulo hahaha
Poor guy lives in São Paulo. It's grey, no beaches and, since it's so big, you just drive your car anywhere instead of walking. As someone from the sunny side of Brazil (Bahia), I find São Paulo super depressing.
@@Anaaewp because it is lol
I remember Europe... people threw bananas at Neymar in Wembley, nobody got arrested, but racism was not a problem in London. Brazil is more like the USA, we do have problems, and we at least try to deal with them.
"Culture shock"? Oh c'mon man. It's 2024. By now we all know at least a few things about every country in the world and we're smart enough to understand that EVERY single country is a complex tetris game where you can't simply describe them in a single line. Brazilians are as diverse as all humans can be.
you would be surprised lol
I always get a bit weirded out when people from western Europe and North America say "culture shock". Brazil is a Judeo-Christian culture with a democratic system and where men and women have the same rights. It's actually pretty similar. Some people are warmer than others. Cost of living and weather has to do with this. But I wouldn't exactly call it a culture shock.
I would say going to Saudi Arabia or India would be a culture shock for a western European or North American, not Latin America, specially Brazil which has a lot of similarities with the USA with a twist.
Ive been in Canada for 18 years and never understood this. I moved at 16 already fluent in English and blended in right away so I really don't understand this "shock". I think the cultural differences are very tame and nuanced.
The whole partying thing: most Brazilians are not on party mode all the time. Most Brazilians work really hard because the purchasing power of the real is low and Brazil is not a cheap country to live in. Even if you bring dollars with you it's no Thailand. Most Brazilians are more open and do enjoy weekends with friends and family more than North Americans but this perception that they are partying all the time is inaccurate. I live in West Queen west in Toronto and there are clubs and restaurants buzling with activity almost every night. It's just the nature of a city if you are tuned to going out. When you go to a country to work its a different vibe from going there to have fun and on holidays.
About the Brazilian guys infidelity thing (Brazilians call it "caixa 2" like a "second bank account") is more common than in western Europe and North America. That is because the culture is so family oriented and marriage is something that most men want there. But the aspect of wanting to be with a bunch of women is just men in general 😂. In North America for example most of the guys want to be poly. Dating in 2024 in North America is a nightmare, it's a struggle to find one guy that is planning on a family. Compare to when I go on a date with a brazilian they're already talking about what his family is like and the family he wants and how many kids. I guess the only difference is that, on average, they are straight up about wanting to be with a bunch of women whereas brazilian men enjoy the family package a bit more than just the getting laid part 😂. Also, let's consider abortion is illegal and extremely frawned upon by society to do that so he is right when he says that when there is an accidental pregnancy they just maintain that side family instead of supporting an illegal abortion.
I know what you mean... I guess its like moving to different parts of Brazil and get a cultural shock, as I always do... its pretty different but still in a little while yiu already get it. Whether in those very different ones milenar cultures you had mentioned , would be just sth else.
There is a big difference for culture of latino countries and anglo-saxons and germanic countries. It's easier from a person from a more open culture to close themselves through social pressure that for a person from a closed culture to open up. One just mean you stay in your lane, the other means you have people trespassing in what you always have perceive as your personal space. Brazilian social norms are almost criminal to countries like Japan and Germany. "We" as a general rule are very loud, very touchy even with strangers, very nousy in other people business (both from a genuine concern to connect and helps as I was seen a history of a Syrian refugee that came with nothing and was completely helped by strangers in Brazil, but also with the intention to gossip), we talk very close to each other which is uncomfortable for people of more reserved cultures, the easy going nature that leads to things like he said that people don't make hard plans and don't stick to them (the old saying of you plan a part at 19 it starts really at 20 or 21 hours), the forced cultural politeness that leads to the indirectness of brazilians to not hurt anyone feelings or not being rude, etc. All of those things are things that are very prevalent and not common in anglo-saxon, germanic, slav, asian, etc countries. Italians, spaniards, portuguese people, etc probably would have this genlte culture shock you talk about. Some of those countries are so close that various brazilian that go there to study and work get depressed because they can't break into any social cycle (because they are very reserved) and become very isolated and solitary.
Also the family structure from latin countries are different, which will cause cultural shocks for people that date and marry and have to integrate and navigate those differences. This video goes more in debt on this aspect about the various difference of family structure.
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@@VitorHugoOliveiraSousa german culture differs from British culture beyond explanation. Nope, there is not them and us, but each and every culture and the singularities of a person.
It's because they see us from Latin America as inferior, much different from them. They think only US and (western) Europe are really part of the western world
What are his ancestral roots? He looks more Brazilian, than British .. although he’s still quite pale 😆
Everyone looks Brazilian 😂
True. I m Brazilian but when i lived in Dublin everyone said im an arabic or india guy 😂
Loved the podcast! Congrats! The egg car is really noisy😂
Rio was elected by time out the best nightlife in the world! There are samba at Beco do Rato Everyday!!! You should visit!!! Tadeu is more Canadian than Brazilian😅 !
One of the things I really miss, in my case, from the U.S. are libraries, in particular, books in English... :(
Have it Cross your mind maybe its time for you to learn portuguese or sth?
We have great literature in Brazil that would blow your mind.
Kindle maybe?😂
I've seen many people here talking about how this Brazilian men thing is not totally true and thought I'd give my 2 cents =)
Given what Freddy said about Gabi and the girls talking, I think it's more about "teaching" the men the way to behave. And in this scenario I think gringos would actually be better, because the woman would be more... intimidating? Since she's louder and more proactive and stuff. So she would have a better opportunity to do this "molding" thing.
I think it can be a bit deceiving in the comments because we would have to really separate introverted and extroverted brazilians - since when you're introverted you hang out mostly with introverted people and vice-versa. I think in introverted spaces there's a lot more room for a less standard type of relationship, but I do think that in more outgoing relationships this is pretty accurate. Always with exceptions, sure, but it does seem to be a social pattern.
The podcast was super fun! Thanks for being so kind to Brazil and we hope the bad things you didn't say aren't a big deal ♥
Thanks for your comments! I always love talking about Brazil ☺️
The concept of women "shaping" men is super sexist. Imagine describing the opposite, wildly misogynistic right?
I think both men and women have their virtues and defects and a good match/couple would complement each other enhancing and taking advantage of their virtues while helping each other to grow and improve their defects.
The idea of a couple in which the woman shape the man eventually leads up to a frustrated unhappy men/couple.
When the thing is reversed, it might lead not only to unhappiness but also abuse.
A healthy couple should help each other grow, but also respect the boundaries of each other personalities.
And example is when he talked about respecting his time to read/recharge, and his wife arriving home spent of extrovert activities and having her husband there but respecting her need to rest without nagging.
Progressism for them, traditionalism for you
In the dating scene, brazilian women see gringos as potentially rich, successful, or mature and well traveled, so there's that angle about the high attraction for gringos, the behavior of brazilian men is not really a factor in that.
This was truly a super fun interview. As a brazilian man I have to disagree with the way brazilian man are portrayed. But that's what happen when you try to describe any culture.... you just generalize it. But for the most part is accurate. Great work though.
I saw a lot of brazilians talkin shit about Brazilians, please, just get real about the spot you are getting yourself in... if was that terrible, everyone that come here would already being gone back... and just as we dont know everything that happens everywhere in Brazil, he just said what he got to know in his country, and payig attetion, much less than we do if you take the fact we more open to conversation and histories, so get to know histories there is not like we have access here.
I definitely and 100% do not consider noise pollution okay. I have placed numerous complaints with our local administration, to the point that I was so fed up I just starting cursing at them. I suspect they simply bribe the officers. The *only* thing that *might* work would be for me to start an expensive lawsuit, and even if it works, the offenders will only be replaced by another bar, another loudspeaker, another loud neighbor, etc.
I am 50, born in SP. I have been living in Portugal for almost 2 and a half years. In May this year (2024) I spent 20 days vacation in SP. Jesus...hat place is incredibly noisy. Sound cars, motorbikes, horns, almost 24/7. Where I live now(25km away from Lisbon) after 8pm everything gets quiet.
The guy is a fan of Skinner. Old school! LOL
Que daora nao sabia que o Bom Doutor morava no Brasil
Kkkkkkkk tive que parar pra rir
Brazil Mentioned!
Sao Paulo....poor guy.
São Paulo is responsible for 31% of Brazil's GDP, and has one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Without São Paulo, Brazil is just an Africa with water. Respect São Paulo.
40:00 - yes. we don´t know how to say no, how to say LEAVE PLEASE. it is a pain
The unwanted advertising is something cultural... how are you going to jail someone just because they are trying to make a living?... if you go to better neighborhoods it will be quieter because those people know that they are more likely to lose a customer with those tactics
Your english is quite good, sir.
São Paulo is know from us that live here as "the city that never sleeps", and also, there some that call it Gotham City XD
A melhor cidade do Brasil é Fortaleza no Ceará ❤
Eliminando todas as outras vc está certo....
IDH backs me up
So true!!!!
If you make over 35k us$ year and work from home it is worthy, you gonna live really really well overall, but you do need some kind of knowledge about where you are going or at least some friend to show you the city. 2k a month is like 10k in london monthly so do what you want with this info, but i really recomend to just go visit first for a month or something before a more commitment movement
As a Brazilian I dare to clarify somethings, considering that the guy avoids to talk bad about our country. Before, in general Brzs are more talkative and do small talk for politeness or pure habit, but the introverts like me aren’t rare and you can be one without problem, you’ll just be known as “caladão” (big quiet) amid your friends. People can be friendly, it’s easier to make friends, but in the other hand (the other side of the coin) they also can be more intrusive, inconvenient and not respect your privacy or rights as law silence after 10pm. Summarizing: they can be unfriendly at the same intensity that they are friendly (so the final count may be: zero).
Thats exactly what he said though.
@@digitandoshshua You’re right. I’m used to be redundant.
you’re so annoying 😅
@@andreff8702 Thanks and let me be even more annoying. Some Brzlns have vira-latas complex (how translate? maybe homeless dog* complex), so they act so friendly to English speakers tourists (richer tourists, dolar payers) than to, i.e., Spanish speakers ones (most Latin Americans). I myself saw a Brzln airport employee mistreating Spanish speakers tourists who were just asking for information. So you mustn’t be naive believing that all this so proclaimed Brzln happiness and sympathy is virtuous (only in some cases), cause it can be just shameful subservience, ass kissing and bootlicking.
* mutt complex [thanks, GTranslator].
And even more. Some crimes against tourists in Brazil are savage beyond imagination. For example, in Rio de Janeiro a young British couple were kidnapped in Arcos da Lapa, a pretty bohemian place, and the guy had to see his girlfriend being raped by many thugs into the van whiling heading to a favela, place where the girl was offered to be raped even more to another demon. He refused laughing saying “no way, I don’t take remains”. In terms of Rio, they were lucky: liberated afterwards and alive. The police got arrest the thugs weeks later, and so what? Nothing will delete that terrible experience from their minds.
This guy really looks like a Brazilian 😅
Cool story.. as you two speak, theres a kid birthday party with a clown using big microphones… and i hate it
I'm Brazilian, lived legally in UK for a couple of years. I get what he's talking but I would swap Brazil for UK in a blink of an eye. I don't care for the weather or the food. Don't mind English people being more reserved. What is important to me is safety, respect, a lot less corruption, good public service for your taxes...yeah I know isn't perfect but here in Brazil we pay norwegian taxes and get "South sudan" services. It's easy to enjoy all the good stuff we have here when you have a British passport and can go back whenever you want. Try to use public services like health knowing you don't have the option to go to UK. Try to go to public schools and make a carrer. Try to retire here...
I get we're his feelings come from. We are much more openned, friendly in the sense it's easy to make friends here and be part of a group but as you get older those things aren't more important than citizenship, having Jobs, health care...
I'm NOT saying Brazil don't have it's qualities but the decision to live here has been over simplificated by foreigners.
The social part is huge though. I think you are underestimating that and possibly taking it for granted. People making 100k a year are miserable in the US/UK and would happily trade places with you. Higher salaries don't guarantee a better quality of life as lifestyle creep sets in in addition to the poor social life/dating life.
I'm from Sao Paulo but I have been living in Canada for over then 10 years. That said I think Brazilian service is not that bad at all. At list in São Paulo. Unfortunately Brazilian are a bit ungrateful and judge about public service.
@@decollector95 Well of course not all, but my point is that although a higher salary can buy you a more comfortable life, the trade off is that in the West right now there is low social trust, and people tend to stick with who they've known for a long time. The cultures lead people to isolation and loneliness if they cannot find a good community. You cannot just walk around at night and meet new friends like in Brazil. Totally different attitudes. Brazilians with their social lives are much richer than many Westerners believe it or not. Money can't buy friends or open attitudes but in Brazil you have this built in to the culture for free! I envy Brazilians. I'd rather have the social life than a higher salary any day.
síndrome de vira-lata
@@Iceman219 Having little social life effects health and creates health problems. So people from those places thinking that the grass is greener in the other side when its not. They should rather focus fixing the problem of the society instead of looking for a greener side.
SE ALGUEM COMBINA ALGO COMIGO E EU DER MINHA PALAVRA EU VOU NO COMPROMISSO
A lot of bias thoughts!
Well duh, these are personal experiences amd interviews, it's not a documentary so it's bound to be coloured by biases and personal opinions.
Being a metropolis, São Paulo is pretty much like London, so getting used to it shouldn't have been hard for him.
São Paulo is a megalopolis, so... i guess its a bit harder tô actually get tô kkow it.
I was in Manchester for a semester and it felt like a smaller city for me. I’m from São Paulo, so I really don’t understand how chocked people can feel 😂 it’s pretty much the same thing, but people speaking English and a bad weather in a general way… it didn’t feel like I was living in a whole different world!
I felt more safe, but again…
Watching two whyyte people criticize and mock the "noise" or business practices of ethnic people is next level uncouth
Brasilians ADMIRE Americans and feel jealous, would love to live in the US, it's their dream
They are probably the most friendly people in the world
They also are intimidated by Americans, they will NEVER tell you NO I CAN'T to your face
Like the old Carioca story (person from RIO) = They invite you to dinner but don't give you the address !
As an American I have lived in the north and now live in the south of BR, like both for different reasons.
Living in the south is a LOT like living in the US, lot of english, culture very similiar (European), weather like Florida where I live.
Does freeze further south in RS and snow in the mountains- Curitiba
Do you miss life in the US? Plan on moving back some day?
Don't generalize things, especially assumptions like how we Brazilians feel about Americans. US don't have a lot to be envy for and you probably know it. How about decolonize your comments?
Diga por você eu não desejo morar lar não Tou muito bem aqui no brasil.
Brazilians only admire the power of purchase of US dollar. Nothing else
Kkkkkkk😂 sometimes foreigners that are full of themselves ( specially U.S. citizens) can read the daily friendlyness or any other cultural streak in a culture as being submissive to them. But what tgey do not realize is how much they are making a fool of themselves.
This days ago I saw a vídeo of another full on U.S. citizen and he was saying his Brazilian girlfriend wld ask his advice as in a female asking permission to a male.. whether she sld get a particular job. The poor guy did not know we Brazilians see our partner as confidents and best friends and we do ask each other's opinions and really listens to that but that at the end of the day the choice is nobody but ours.
I felt sorry for him to have such a limited vision and no meaningfull experience in personal relationships.