Which pump to use D5 or 655

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  • @marthewroberts9646
    @marthewroberts9646 Рік тому +2

    Found your channel from eBay lol great work just spoke to you about a 360 ddc res but went ahead and bought a d5 pump

  • @DeKempster
    @DeKempster 3 роки тому +1

    Those metal pins are for balancing the impeller. i have 2 pumps. A Laing D4 (old one 2007 or older) and a AlphaCool branded one, and both have have a couple of pins of varying height (thus weight).

  • @lordraptor11
    @lordraptor11 5 років тому +14

    yes the metal is throwing the pump out of balance, you may not see it vibrate but it is indeed vibrating, your option to open the area a little simply opened the tolerances between the rezzie and pump so that now it isn't hitting. I recommend you measure the inner area of the pump top that came with the ek pump. on a side note, friends don't let friends buy EK products. ek has been around so long they are slacking off on quality big time and I personally will NEVER use another ek product myself

    • @calvinminer4365
      @calvinminer4365 4 роки тому

      Who do you recommend in stead of EKWB?

    • @Onewolfoc
      @Onewolfoc 3 роки тому +2

      @@calvinminer4365 just saw this so I thought I'd answer I know this was posted a year ago. Here is some suggestions for the future
      Watercool.de (aka heatkiller) , alphacool, aquacomputer, and hardware labs and some magicool products.
      Most of the brands that have confidence in their products are fairly transparent. For example hardware labs gives info about pressure testing as well as at fairly high deltas how much energy dissipation you could expect to get from their rads. Believe it or not that info is actually fairly useful though again they rate it at a very high delta. I can't fault them for it but atleast they do it.
      Watercool.de (heatkiller) gives pressure testing specs and has confidence in their blocks. They are some of the better machined blocks and for reasonable prices only gripe in on some portions of the block the surface finish could be improved but they are very good blocks.
      Alphacool has some good stuff and some meh level stuff but they do give proper information about how they test their products.
      Magicool is actually a OEM for a few companies actually one of them I mentioned has used them in the past. But magicool does make fairly good radiators for certain uses. They also pressure test to some of the highest pressures in the industry on SOME not all of their radiators they have a few different series and they are not all pressure tested to the same degree. However I would ague they are one of the more transparent companies.
      Barrow also with some things is a good alternative as well. Assuming the price is right
      EK refuses to give really any information on their products and they will happily void your warranty. For example they make blocks with some questionable acrylic and they don't provide torque specs to prevent damage. Then they will void your warranty for improper torque being applied via fastener that they don't provide a spec on. In some places this would be illegal but you would have to argue this in court. One of the best examples of this on their blocks is the supremacy MX blocks there is a version with a waffle like top that's not even solid acrylic. It has cracked on tons and tons of people from not even cranking down to hard on the fittings actually if your tubing is a bit stiff just trying to get the loop plumbed up will be enough to crack it.
      EK also has a history of making crappy blocks on occasion in the past few years then totally revamping the product cause the performance was shit then telling the people who bought the original version we won't help you other then we will give you a few Percent off the purchase of the vastly improved actually useable version. This has happened a few times over the years now or stuff similar with them.
      All in all the companies that are trustworthy tend to backup their products with data and post it in plain sight on their website. The companies that tend to be untrustworthy don't talk about pressure testing , or any other specifications. I don't have to name all the names of brands that have those issues. You can just see it for yourself when you look at their product pages and look into those products.
      I will give EK credit on 2 products. Their pressure tester kit is one of the better ones on the market though the hand pump it comes with leaves a lot to be desired and the price at 40 is a bit steep for what you get if the kit was 30 I'd have 0 complaints. Also their rubber ZMT tubing is actually good from the standpoint of watercooling specific tubing products however it's more flexible but not quite up to par in other ways with automotive trans oil cooler lines and double wall fuel line. Are often made of the same material. Good for different uses. I prefer using the double wall fuel line and trans oil cooler line (with corded sleeve between the 2 walls) for water chillers esp. as these tubes are quite well insulated with 2 seperated layers of rubber. That being said they still get frost/condensate on them eventually

    • @varmastiko2908
      @varmastiko2908 Рік тому

      @@Onewolfoc This is very good information. Could you link examples of the automotive hoses that you use. Do these work well with all cooling liquids and are they inert to chemicals?

    • @jasonb9629
      @jasonb9629 Рік тому

      @@calvinminer4365 If you want the best the only way to go is Aquacomputer!

  • @406kTTV
    @406kTTV 4 роки тому +3

    Just ordered my reservoir from you on eBay. You could say I am pumped! Thanks man

  • @osgeld
    @osgeld 5 років тому +3

    the balancing is used for more viscous fluids being pumped, otherwise its a problem with material as thin as water cause it will form its own self correcting bearing, EK has a habit of more money = better not what is the best solution for the problem we are solving

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому +1

      osgeld thanks for that info about different “viscosity liquid types”

  • @francisphillipeck4272
    @francisphillipeck4272 5 років тому +8

    My XSPC D5 Vario has those weights inside the impeller for balancing, but my Xylem D5 PWM pump doesn't have any balancing inside, I am assuming they do that only if its needed for that specific impeller and that specific pump and they may not have gotten it 100% perfect on that one. Love the vids man!

  • @foggycontacts3212
    @foggycontacts3212 5 років тому +7

    Great stuff man, I love your work. Glad everything worked out with the pump and it's a great idea to show people that you are always changing things to fit in the real world. Keep the vids flowing!!!

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому +1

      FOGGY CONTACTS what baffles me is that a good name brand as ekwb would have gave me this noise issue. but at the same time that’s why I try to get different pumps from different brands to get this type of problems before I release something and adapt

    • @DangoNetwork
      @DangoNetwork 4 роки тому

      @@radikult-custom I see that issue before. A lot in fact. They let the pump run dry and burned the ceramic ball off causing the impeller to contact the body. I also see balanced weight fall off causing the impeller wobble that burned the ceramic also. But that is much lower number compare to the first case.

  • @Cooper3312000
    @Cooper3312000 3 роки тому

    I recently bought a EK FLT with D5 and it makes a grinding noise at startup or any speed under 50% I think the impeller balance is off or maybe the res housing is off. I’m ordering a Aqua Computer D5 to replace pump hope it fits the EK res mount bracket with the smart panel on top of the pump.

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  3 роки тому

      It’s really hard to tell which part is “faulty” maybe the pump housing is a hair off and that’s why it makes that sound. Or the impeller is a bit out of balance.
      As you can see in this video I try multiple brands and I could only get the noise from the EKWB pump and by close inspection I notice the pins inside the impeller had like “extra” material at the top while all other impeller didn’t.

    • @Cooper3312000
      @Cooper3312000 3 роки тому

      @@radikult-custom have you tested the fitment of a Aqua Computer NEXT D5 pump in a EK FLT res. I’m a little worried the top/screen attachment might be a little to big for the res mounting plate.

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  3 роки тому

      @@Cooper3312000 unfortunately I don’t have any reservoirs from EKWB.

  • @Crispiburguer
    @Crispiburguer 6 місяців тому

    Hello, I have a vpp655 vario since 2006 working. I had a problem with the rotor. It seems that the area where the ceramic sphere rests broke due to fatigue, I suppose. I bought a new rotor on Aliexpress and the exact same thing happened to me that happened to your client. The rotor collided with the block (alphacool HF d5). The decision I made was simple. Replace the O-ring with one that further separates the pump from the block. I think it would be a simpler solution for your reservoirs.
    All the best

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  6 місяців тому

      Hi 👋, probably the impeller is a bit out of balance and that’s why it’s making some noise inside the reservoir. Unfortunately there is no easy way to balance an impeller, but putting a thicker oring to separate the pump a bit is a good idea. 👍
      I have already change and updated the pump inlets on the reservoir to prevent any of the issues with impellers hitting the reservoirs.
      Thanks for the tip maybe someone can read this and help them

    • @Crispiburguer
      @Crispiburguer 6 місяців тому

      ​@@radikult-custom That's what I thought when I put it together and indeed when I raise the revolutions to more than 3/5 the rotor vibrates. I'm going to buy a new block and pump. I don't know whether to apex or go to what I know works and take a VPP655 again that has been working for many years, but this time I will take the PWM version. I think it is not worth buying an Apex because it no longer has the ceramic dial as I have read. Great job you do, I always wanted to make my own blocks, but I never had the money to buy a decent CNC. All the best

  • @oliverrowe8648
    @oliverrowe8648 5 років тому +1

    I've had to rma an ek d5 for the similar grinding sound and now have 2 that are working perfectly :)

  • @BundymaniaReviews
    @BundymaniaReviews 5 років тому +4

    Aquacomputer D5 Next ist the BEST and my favorite pump atm ! :)

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому

      Bundymania-Reviews yeah that pump is nice.

    • @Paddydapro
      @Paddydapro 5 років тому

      wow thanks i looked it up and it's really great, thanks for commenting this here :)

    • @InSaiyanShinobi
      @InSaiyanShinobi 4 роки тому

      Can the d5 next pump work with singularity res top combo ? I’m trying to use this pump with singularity reservoir

  • @khanscombe619
    @khanscombe619 3 роки тому

    Can I integrate this style D5 Laing pump into a standalone reservoir? Is there a common too & fitting I can find?

  • @chronoszeus9267
    @chronoszeus9267 3 роки тому

    What Brand was the Pump with digital RPM Display? Thank you!

  • @bitrage.
    @bitrage. 2 роки тому

    Hey, do you do custom orders???

  • @ripnshread2441
    @ripnshread2441 5 років тому +2

    That looks like a QC issue. Those look like spacer slugs that should have been removed when the plastic part was made.

  • @nachovidal4047
    @nachovidal4047 5 років тому

    Hi radikult..if i use the D5 NEXT i could close the chasis with the back panel? Or i must use it open the back chamber? Thanks

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому +1

      Nacho Vidal i didn’t quite get what you wanted to say.

    • @nachovidal4047
      @nachovidal4047 5 років тому

      @@radikult-custom i want to know if i could close the sidepanel of the case..because the d5 its very big..i want to know before to buy it..thanks

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому +1

      Nacho Vidal the side panel on a 011 dynamic case?
      I measured and it don’t fit with the panel. You will need to put some spaces to separate the reservoir to make space for the D5 next pump

    • @nachovidal4047
      @nachovidal4047 5 років тому

      @@radikult-custom thanks..i could use some spacers like the motherboard use?

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому +1

      Nacho Vidal if you could find then in the same thread as the screw for the reservoir then yes. If not regular spacer washers type

  • @brenovritkrezorkre
    @brenovritkrezorkre 5 років тому

    Hi! How did the flow and pressure level change after the tank was finished? You made the measurement with flowmeter and pressure sensor?

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому +1

      brenovritkrezorkre I did made a “follow up” video and tested the reservoir with a flow meter and saw no difference.
      I don’t own a pressure sensor unfortunately

    • @rknine7998
      @rknine7998 3 роки тому

      @@radikult-custom Can someone please help me? I purchased a Thermaltake PR2U with a D5 motor. I have exactly the same problem as in this video, where the motor sounds like a squeaking mouse sound. How can I fix that? Why is that?

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  3 роки тому

      @@rknine7998 you should contact thermaltake or where you bought it.
      Maybe the bracket the hold the pump is too tight. Try making it a little loose but not to loose that it can leak.

    • @rknine7998
      @rknine7998 3 роки тому

      @@radikult-custom Believe it or not, this is my second replacement for the same product. I thought the first one was just defective, but it seems like these products Thermaltake PR2U have all the squeaking mouse sound. I'm going to return this second one and buy a completely different manufacturer. Do you have any recommendations to buying a WORKING black 5.25 inch combo reservoir and pump?

  • @rknine7998
    @rknine7998 3 роки тому

    Can someone please help me? I purchased a Thermaltake PR2U with a D5 motor. I have exactly the same problem as in this video, where the motor sounds like a squeaking mouse sound. How can I fix that? Why is that?

  • @sandmanx187
    @sandmanx187 4 роки тому

    can the outer shell/shroud be painted?

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  4 роки тому

      YouSwallowMyDNA the shell of the pump? Yes it could be painted. Light sand and some plastic paint should work

  • @psyber84
    @psyber84 4 роки тому

    I am looking for a small reservoir for a d5 pump. Any suggestions?

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  4 роки тому

      psyber84 the smallest reservoir I make with a build in D5 pump attachment is a 240mm reservoir
      rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F223233742195

  • @mrcryptz
    @mrcryptz 5 років тому

    i am having the same problem with the xspc vario pump. if i run it at 3 its whisper quiet, if i run it at 4 or 5 its hitting.

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому

      mrcryptz yes that’s the same issue this ekwb pump had. At low speed is good but at full speed it hits.
      After doing some testing and changes I have decided to implement those changes to the rest of my reservoirs. A video coming soon to announce it

    • @Sn8k3yez
      @Sn8k3yez 5 років тому

      I have the same problem. Xspc pump does the same thing in his reservoir. Fortunately I had an extra D5 from alphacool that ended up working. It completely bummed me out though because the xspc was brand-spankin'-new.

  • @christianmeldal6911
    @christianmeldal6911 5 років тому

    Do your reservoirs support the newer 755 pump?

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому

      Christian Meldal personally have not tested that pump, but a while ago a customer tested the 755 pump and he told me it worked just as a D5.

  • @VuNguyen-wo8bp
    @VuNguyen-wo8bp 4 роки тому

    Did the EK pump make the noise when connected to a regular top? I have the same posts in my generic Laing D5 strong but never had this type of noise issue.

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  4 роки тому

      Vu Nguyen I actually don’t remember if I try it of not. But most likely it didn’t

  • @Fluppe999
    @Fluppe999 5 років тому

    I’m having exactly the same problem. I’m using the Singularity Computers Protium D5 PWM Pump. Should I try to grind a little bit of the walls of the reservoir myself or should I just get another pump? Thanks in advance!

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому +1

      Fluppe999 if you think you can do a good job sanding some of the wall and bottom. Or you could send the reservoir to me and I’ll put it into the machine to do so

  • @cppctek
    @cppctek 3 роки тому +2

    My d5 ekwb pump that came with the d5 reflections front distro for the 011-dynamic is randomly making a slapping noise like tolerance issue also. Also a high pitch dog whistle sound that is barely audible but your ears hurt from it. What is a better pump? I want to replace this even. Tho it's brand new. Ekwb is trash and they need to stop being worshiped for a god

  • @w1p30ut3r
    @w1p30ut3r 5 років тому

    There is a way to fix the speed at 100% without a motherboard? Like... Short the wires??? Just to run at max speed without have to connect the small conector?

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому

      w1p30ut3r the PWM pump I have, if I don’t connect the small plug (green, blue) to the motherboard, then the pump runs at 100%
      If it’s connected then runs at the speed I set on bios

    • @w1p30ut3r
      @w1p30ut3r 5 років тому

      @@radikult-custom Its better connect to the cpu cooler plug or other fan in the mobo?

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому

      w1p30ut3r CPU plug always need to have something connected either a pwm fan or pump.
      But any would work for the pump

  • @nickpetrossi2008
    @nickpetrossi2008 4 роки тому +1

    First of all I would like to say you make great things. Ive just found you online, and weirdly enough ive also just built my first computer. I was on the fence about water cooling until i saw your designs. So i did the only thing i could do.. I purchased your Dynamic Duo for my OD11 XL:) Having seen this video, what pumps would you recommend I buy for the Duo I just bought?

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  4 роки тому

      nick petrossi you can use any brands D5 or 655 pumps. Personally I have a swiftech 655 pump last me for 4 years and still working. But you can get any brand you want

    • @nickpetrossi2008
      @nickpetrossi2008 4 роки тому

      @@radikult-custom thanks for the response. Ill look into it. Also do you do custom orders? Like if I wanted to put another reservoir to fill space(fill the space exactly)? Or something like that? And how much would it be?

  • @dandel351
    @dandel351 5 років тому

    That is good information to know Mario. Those metal slugs in the center of the impeller are balance weights like you have on your wheels on your car. I have a D5 EK pump running in one of your reservoirs. It's running just fine. I might have dodged the clearance issue by fully hand polishing my res. The only problem I had was using the original O-ring that came with my EK X-res pump combo.
    Once I changed to a thicker O-ring I had no more leaks. The only other thing I could suggest is perhaps putting a slight bevel on the edge of the inlet hole of the pump to lessen the chance of cavitation as the water enters the pump. Good luck and keep up the great work. Cheers!

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому

      dandel351 thanks for that info too. I’m always looking for improvement

    • @francisphillipeck4272
      @francisphillipeck4272 5 років тому

      I had the same thing happen to me with an XSPC Photon D5 res. I had an XSPC pump in it and it was fine but when I switched to a Xylem branded pump so i could control the speed with the pwm output and filled the loop it leaked. To fix it i had to switch o-rings on the two pumps in order to get the spacing right. The thinner o-ring was letting the pump bottom out on the res and not make a good seal which caused it to leak.

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому

      Francis Phillipeck it’s been a while now. But I been supplying a thicker o-ring for the D5 pumps, just to prevent any leaks just what you just described.
      I figured that those pins were for balancing but what baffle me was that a good name brand was giving those noise issues. I might have expected it from a cheap copy of a D5

    • @dandel351
      @dandel351 5 років тому +1

      @@radikult-custom No Worries buddy!!

  • @Petrolhead66
    @Petrolhead66 4 роки тому

    What about DDC

  • @BRANITOR
    @BRANITOR 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the info mate !

  • @Sakcustompcs
    @Sakcustompcs 4 роки тому

    @radikult hi mate, would you be able to make me custom reservoir for my coolermaster cosmos c700p black edition, please let me so I can send you all of the details.

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  4 роки тому

      SAKCUSTOMPCS as much I would like to, unfortunately I don’t have the time to work on custom one of a kind reservoir. It takes a lot of time to design, make and test
      Sorry I couldn’t be any help

    • @Sakcustompcs
      @Sakcustompcs 4 роки тому

      Radikult never mind mate!

  • @damirperkovic1905
    @damirperkovic1905 5 років тому +3

    Basicly all of those pumps are the same,and come from the same manufacturer,but ek etc just put their label on it.

    • @radikult-custom
      @radikult-custom  5 років тому

      Damir Perković Yes, I know Laing is the makers of D5 pumps and than other companies just re-name them with they own stickers and labels

    • @Onewolfoc
      @Onewolfoc 3 роки тому

      There is a few variations though and if they order enough units they can get small changes made.

  • @briandiff1459
    @briandiff1459 4 роки тому

    My Swiftech MCP655 Variable has been running since 2007 under daily use, it has alot of hours on it I can tell you that

    • @layzie45
      @layzie45 3 роки тому

      Haha, same dude. It has serviced my of my builds. I can just slap on a different top and call it a day.

  • @MrKZdemos
    @MrKZdemos Рік тому

    of course EK, always EK problems

  • @ZONAEDINSON
    @ZONAEDINSON 5 років тому +1

    exelente sus videos, saludos desde colombia

  • @Diegocobos
    @Diegocobos Рік тому

    Nice video

  • @Дмитрий-с3п4ы
    @Дмитрий-с3п4ы 5 місяців тому

    2:32 😂😂😂 you made my day😂😂😂😂

  • @mohammadrezakarimikhodaei1748
    @mohammadrezakarimikhodaei1748 5 років тому +1

    I'm here to balance your likes

  • @DangoNetwork
    @DangoNetwork 4 роки тому

    You know all those are D5 pumps right... They all made by the same company.

  • @YTmurphy
    @YTmurphy 5 років тому +4

    Disliked for misleading title, this video isn't about a decision between D5 *OR* 655 at all, which is because usually any 655 pumps just *ARE* D5 pumps. Which is why this title made me curious. And then you were talking about a reservoir all the time. Dude!

    • @Crispiburguer
      @Crispiburguer 6 місяців тому

      That's what I thought when I put it together and indeed when I raise the revolutions to more than 3/5 the rotor vibrates. I'm going to buy a new block and pump. I don't know whether to apex or go to what I know works and take a VPP655 again that has been working for many years, but this time I will take the PWM version. I think it is not worth buying an Apex because it no longer has the ceramic dial as I have read. Great job you do, I always wanted to make my own blocks, but I never had the money to buy a decent CNC. All the best 😊

  • @Tofilux
    @Tofilux 3 роки тому

    Was here

  • @sarahfox6867
    @sarahfox6867 Рік тому

    Failed to explain anything about the pumps and their differences. It was just a video about a problem you encountered with a pump. That is fine for what it is. But the title is completely deceiving and it was a waste of my time.