Facts. This is the stuff folks don't wanna talk about. Chiefs have been within the top five in penalties called against them, third in yards against, and in the bottom third of the league in penalty differential, but somehow "tHe ChIeFs GeT aLl ThE cAlLs!!!!!111!!" It's obvious that people have transferred their Patriots fatigue to the Chiefs and I for one am gonna laugh about it because it's demonstratably untrue. Ask some people about the PI that got the Chiefs the SB win vs the Eagles. you can see Brad burry holding the Jersey from a yard behind the WR. Bradburry even directly admitted in the press after the game he did it. But some folks won't just accept that he did.
@@jakeusaf9401 Poor Trent McDuffie lol. Get dragged to the ground by Ja'Marr Chase to prevent an interception on an overthrown fade? Defensive pass interference. Have Ray-Ray McCloud run into you in crunch time? Defensive pass interference. And again, it's not a conspiracy against him or any one single player or team. If someone wants to claim as such, then they have to show proof. Saying that the league has a vague vested interest in a dynasty or that they want to please the Swifties or that the refs have arbitrary bets on the Chiefs is not proof. If the refs had bets on the Chiefs, then they'd call zero penalties on them lmao, especially in the last drive for the Falcons.
Did anyone see that play in the Lions Cardinals game? Cardinals got a pick six, then the refs said that they hit the two minute warning and it never happened. The lions SNAPPED THE BALL at the 2 minute mark, clearing trying to get a play off, and the refs decide after the fact it didn't happen? What the hell are we doing? We just handing out free plays if we feel like it?
I think there was some confusion there as the whistle was blowing the play dead at the two minute warning. Some players stopped and others didn't, and so the pass got intercepted on what was meant to be a dead play. It was just sloppy all around.
@@noah509 that was a weird chain of events,seems to me the NFL fired every good employee they had and went and got some bums off the street for refs and blind folks to run the clocks
Putting refball aside, the Chiefs somehow have this innate ability to make whoever's playing them act like absolute morons in the last few crucial plays. Refball had nothing to do with the blatant PI from Bengals and the 4th and inches play from the Falcons yesterday.
Other people have mentioned it but opposing teams start getting in their own heads cause it’s the chiefs and make stupid mistakes. Used to happen with the patriots too
@@jkacvbhijfnfacts whenever the games were close with patriots I always thought someone on the other team was going to do something that is dumb. Russell throwing the pick in the end zone, falcons not clock management up 28-3
the roughing call on cj95 happened on 3rd and if we don't get this we're punting. ATL ended that drive with points, points vs punts, that definitely matters. chaos dictates you can't say well this matters more cause i feel... no, get "all" the calls right or don't complain about calls when both teams felt the sting of the whistle whip last night.
Chiefs fan here. That DPI no call was gross. We absolutely should have gotten the flag. But bad calls/no calls happen in every game. Holds are really bad. We just have everyone wanting us to lose and I would feel the same way if it was the Bills, Bengals, Broncos, etc... But like you guys said. It's just bad officiating. Plain and simple. The NFL would MUCH rather Mahomes and Kelce were on the Jets or Rams. Kansas city and our measly 3M metro residents are the last market that they want to win.
This is what I've been trying to convince the deranged crowd of for some time. Why would the NFL fix it for the Chiefs when they're a tiny market compared to NYC, LA, Houston, Chicago? In what universe do massive egos like virtually all NFL owners have just quietly give in to some unknown, shadowy script writers and accept that, "Sorry, your Jets/Bears don't get to win this century," "Sorry, your Oilers/Texans don't get to win ever, even though you're the 3rd largest market." And those owners just take it when some nerdy script writer says that small market teams like the Chiefs and Packers get to have two of the most impactful dynasties of the last 60 years? Yeah, riiiiigggghhhht.
Refs missed an OBVIOUS Hands to the Face when Jones got the RTP passer penalty on 3rd and 6. Should have been a replayed 3rd down. Eventual TD Drive. Refs threw an offensive and defensive holding on the Pitts 50 yard gain, but picked up the offensive holding flag. Came right after the RTP call on a TD drive. Refs called McDuffie for DPI when he got trucked by the WR while owning his spot. That's a no call or OPI, but Bengals got a 1st down. Put Bengals in scoring position before the missed DPI. The Horse Collar on KC was legit. The DPI on Cook should have been called. You can talk about "bailed out" but the biggest calls in the game all came on two drives where ATL was pushing for TDs. 3-1 in favor of ATL and it's all about the Chiefs getting bailed out. You fix those penalties in the first half, It's 7-7 and not 14-7. KC gets the two FGs and it's 13-7 and a different game. It doesn't mean the Chiefs win, but Atlanta has to go to different play calling.
@@jacobtuttle6063 When it’s all added up, Bad calls all around. At least the Falcons had plenty of time to shake em off and move on. If they had wanted that game, they could’ve/should’ve won the game.
Chiefs and Falcons were both penalized 6 times in the game but the Chiefs were hit for 50% more penalty yards than the Falcons AND the Falcons were gifted with 4 first downs on penalty to the Chiefs' zero. If the refs are really trying to give the Chiefs the game, they're doing a really shitty job of it.
The MLB Umps do the same thing, but with less transparency. They basically put on the headset by the camera well, and listen to their favorite classic rock song, before coming back out, and confirming their call. Even when NY tells them it should "probably" be overturned, they don't HAVE to listen. Eye in the sky is the right way to go about those types of calls, but it'll never make it to the pros, which is unfortunate.
Tom was spot on! That game had terrible calls and no calls for both teams. Its a league wide issue with officiating no doubt. They tried out the challenging the PI calls a few years ago right? Or am I just stoned... If so why didn't that work? Seems like a good idea as it is usually one of the most controversial calls or no calls.
Chiefs fan here. The dpi no call was bad. Obvious dpi. However there were multiple bad calls that went against the chiefs. Some of which sustained drives. Chiefs were the most penalized team in the league last year. Bad calls hit everyone. People just focus on the chiefs and calls that benifit them because they usually win.
I’m with you dude but calling it bad is kinda light. A call that alters the whole game is egregious. I’m a falcons fan that wanted us to kick FGs and avoid all that jazz. To me that chiefs offense did not look as scary and you gotta get points, you see the Philly game they were terrified of FGs and almost lost cause of it.
@@AnvarAminjanov I see what you're saying but every call and non call could be the difference or nothing at all. Without a crystal ball, other outcomes are just speculation. And the roughing against Jones sustained a drive that ended in points for you guys. The lack of consistency from the refs is really frustrating though. Regardless, Atlanta played a good game. I think they'll have a good season if they can stay healthy.
@@Lucas12v No, no, not every callis a maybe it wont issue. One of the biggest problems I see that I think gets the Chiefs a lot of flak is how many times it happens on the last drive. A flag on the games final drive in a one score game will almost always have the potential to make or break. When holding got called against the Chiefs last week, you knew it meant they prolly lose. When that DPI happened, you knew the Bengals lost. Timing matters a lot in the game, especially Pass Interference calls in a one score game. I'm with you, all the other mumbo jumbo. Ohhhh, that no call in Q2 or Q3. That don't matter. N that's why I dislike the Chiefs, or rather their GAMES. Because at least 70% of the time, a flag will matter. Be it a win or lose, you just KNOW there will be that last minute flag that ends the game 2 minutes early.
@@LilyMaeBlossom There was a bad call against the chiefs on the very last drive. The one where the falcons had the ball. By your logic, that call is even more important than the missed dpi since it was later in the game. If the falcons won I doubt people would complain half as hard about that last bad call as they currently are about the dpi no call. A call on the first play of the game could change the outcome. Just because we don't know doesn't mean the effect can't be large. Like I said, refs screwed up but it's just luck who gets the benefit. I don't think last year's most penalized team is getting special treatment.
@@the6thpackbrewbuck Vegas hasn't yet realized that Darnold has that dog in him this year. He had a year as a backup to get his head right & study under a coach who's good at winning.
To the Chiefs fans who love to talk down to people complaining about the calls going KCs way and calling them crybabies. I do have a question for you. Remember the AFC Championship against New England? When that C. Ward interception that would of sent KC to the Super Bowl was overturned on a ticky tacky call that went New England's way?Game goes to OT, Patriots win the coin toss, Chiefs never get the ball. (There was also a controversial call roughing the passer call against Chris Jones that was a boost for the Patriots). If you complained about thoes calls then, saying that "Brady and the Pats ALWAYS get the calls" and you're now scoffing at people who are mad Pitts didn't get that PI, are you not being at least a little bit hypocritical? Just a bit? Or if you complained about not getting the ball under the old (postseason) OT rules in that game, but had no sympathy for the Bills when the same thing happened to them.
Broncos, Chargers, and Raiders fans now understand what Bears, Vikings, and especially Lions fans had to endure from 2011 - 2022 while Rodgers was getting every close call go his way and seemingly every pick six negated by a phantom penalty. The elite QB inequality is a staple of the NFL.
@BillBarnwell breaks it down on Twitter--excuse me, "X." What we really need are professional refs who are trained and not part-timers. We'd probably see more continuity in games then. Falcons could have won that game--should've won it--with or without refs--had they gone for a FG or a better 4th down play at the end.
@@TommyQim-jk1dlfirst off it's not 27 it's 16, your just making sh!t up. Next, I of them happened on defensive offsides, so atleast 8 of those 16 were on free plays.
I think the Chiefs winning by such narrow margins game after game is why the officiating gets blamed for causing the teams that they are playing against to lose. There are bad calls or no-calls on both teams in every game, but when the score is tight it feels like those calls matter more, and the Chiefs have that clutch, post season discipline that allows them to not make dumb mistakes and draw dumb penalties late in games that other teams just don't have.
I honestly would have felt so much better about the Falcons losing if they had called DPI, the Falcons scored, and then the Chiefs scored to take the lead again. At least it would have made the Chief's win feel like "oh, they /are/ good." Instead, I feel like the win was caused by Falcon mistakes rather than good Chiefs play.
The loss was due to Falcons mistakes. Should have taken the points. Going for it opened the door for the missed call. Even so, they forced a KC 3 and out, with an opportunity to take a 1-3 point lead with next to no time left. They needed a TD but could have ended with a game winning kick had they taken points the drive before.
Speaking of impactful ... Before Koo's FG to keep them in the game from 54yd ... Cousins threw the ball and hit his lineman in the head... Which should have made the FG 59yd .. on top of that... It was also grounding which would have taken them out of FG range
Ok... take off the PI. Let's say instead that the falcons get the call and go 1st and goal from the 1. They're down 5 with 55 seconds left. In that situation I think Andy Reid just let's them run it in. That puts them up 1. I have to assume that they go for 2 to try to make it a 3 point game, and I give them a 45% chance of making it. That means Mahomes gets the ball back with 50 seconds, 2 timeouts, and has 4 downs to get into field goal range for a chance to tie it, or more likely win it. As a Chiefs fan, that's what I wanted to see. And I think that's what everyone else wanted to see attempted. The refs didn't give the chiefs the game, they just tarnished the victory by missing a pretty obvious penalty. Then they probably knew they messed up so they started calling BS against us and almost cost us the game right back. I would say it was just a bad game by all parties. The falcons couldn't quite keep up with the Chiefs. I think losing huge parts of their O-line ruined their game plan. The Chiefs played way worse than they should have, and the refs were terrible for both sides.
@@ELI_ATLAnd you think they wouldn’t have went for it on fourth instead of punting? The game would have been on the line there would be no three and outs
NFL needs to watch the UFL and copy their refereeing. The football itself is sloppy in the UFL too often, but it's a growing league so I'll give it a pass. The refereeing, the sense of accountability especially and changing calls to make the right one was the main thing that kept me watching. It's so refreshing to see like "whoops messed the initial call up" and changing it. Refs are human, they only have one set of eyes they need to physically move around with their bodies. Have them review calls from different camera angles, it's so simple. The UFL can do it, so can the NFL.
Saw a few helmets ripped off of the linemen in the Chiefs/Falcons game. Got to imagine there was more hands to the face going on than what was being called, lols.
I have to disagree. It’s the exact same offense we saw last year. Dropped passes, crossing routes, jet sweeps, WR screens, and a bunch of dink and dunk throws. At least there wasn’t a drop for a pick six last night.
3 defensive penalties that led to 3 first downs was not as impactful? it put them inside the 10 with less than a minute and a chance to take the lead. The falcons blew their chance! Go Chiefs!
Parna, the "make-up" calls were not impactful because the Falcons didn't score...if they did score, then the make-up calls would have mattered. The flags are only meaningful if something meaningful happens. Just because there is a flag in the last few minutes does not mean it is impactful.
It just feels like the Chiefs don’t get “all the calls” but they just seem to get the most impactful calls on the game. The big moment calls/no calls. Inconsistent with the rest of the game. But it’s in every other game too, we just see it more since they’re in prime slots each week.
But the Falcons got two imaginary calls on that last drive. Illegal hands to the face on Conner when he never even touched the guy's face or facemask and DPI on McDuffie when WR literally blasted into him with a two-handed block downfield. It was 100% OPI and McDuffie called for it. Those are impactful calls and it's not even close. They extended the Falcons final drive unfairly, bailing them out. Very impactful. It's just unlike the Chiefs, they blew it when they got bad calls going their favor. The Chiefs virtually always seem to make them count.
It actually was a couple of good calls. Like the pass interference and the horse collar. 1st on the 1 or 1st on the 34. That don't equal the same result
Nobody gives 2 sh!ts when a call benefits Chiefs opponet. Superbowl against the Eagles people are still whining about the Bradberry hold, did anybody complain when SF got a hold in OT that kept their drive alive? Was anybody bitching last week when KC gotva penalty for hands to the face which negated a 1st down and put KC in FG range. Nope, that's a perfectly fine call, but 1 seconds later, you just can't call PI in that spot and decide the game. Was anybody arguing that the refs can't call PI last night to decide the game?
@@SoulGlaive No they aren't. Last year the Chiefs offense struggled, but the defense was top 5 throughout the year. This year the defense is very sus and the offense is slightly above average.
Chris Jones roughing (that resulted in 7 points), phantom hands to the face (on the last drive), phantom PI (on the last drive), but please NFL fan crybabies, let's focus on the non PI call with 4.5 minutes left in the game that would have put ATL up by less than a field goal. 🤦♂
i mean not like the fans have any say about how refs call a game so not blame to you guys haha plus im sure there will be a shitty call against the Chiefs at a crucial time some point this year like there is for everyone
Everyone admits it’s DPI, but no one wants to admit there are missed calls throughout the game on both sides that hurt and help both teams. Everyone wants to pretend only the chiefs benefit
@@slimeshadetree13 That RTP call didn't even put the Falcons in Chiefs' territory. They still had to go half the field to score. If KC had lost a First and Goal at the Atlanta one yard line because of that call, then it would equivalent. But that isn't the case. It isn't equivalent.
The refs were bad for both teams last night. Like that bs pi on McDuffie. The receiver literally plowed into him while he was standing still, if anything it should have been on the offense.
If you have 3rd down and 3 inches to go and don’t make it…that’s on you, not the refs….now it’s 4th down and again super short to line,of gain…what?5 inches this time …and you call a sweep around left end…which results in Nick Bolton recording a 3 yard tackle for loss…again…that’s on you…every week there are dozens of missed calls..but if you can’t get it done at the line of scrimmage…that’s on you, not the refs….when you have an easy 3 inches to gain for first down…and fail….that is some great defensive play calling by SPAGS…that’s it…
The Chiefs get penalties, too. There were a couple of times during the game that the Falcons O-Lineman went hands to the face. And it wasn't called. Oh well, refs missed it. I agree though that was pass interference. And maybe the Receiver and Defender were hand wrestling in the end zone and possibly Pitts was pushing off a little. One thing is for sure, Cousins needed to put that pass higher. Also in my 3000 hours of watching football in any game you watch. Refs have missed some obvious pass interference calls. 😊
How about the no call on illegal hands to the face for Chris Jones and then he gets called for roughing the passer because his head his shoved to the sky and can’t see that the ball was thrown. Falcons were bailed out and scored a TD on that drive
I don't hear any of you guys bitching about the Chris Jones call where he let the f****** quarterback down like on a soft pillow and they called it a penalty, a 15 yard penalty
@@floatpool8307I would agree but the missed dpi call was after the roughing call on cj,and if that weak azz roughing call wasnt called,the they still.wouldve been tied at. that point,but that bad call led to a Falcons td,then the missed dpi came in 3rd quarter which didnt affect the game as much as everyone wanted it to,so the refs made up a bunch of calls and Falcons still.couldnt do shyt
Let's see if they would have gotten the DPI and scored a touchdown that would leave 4ish minutes with Mahomes with the ball to close it out. I would put my money on Mahomes in that situation 100% of the time. Same with the Ravens if they would have gotten that TD they still needed 2 points. Just losing protracted. KC would still have gotten the DUB. Also, multiple first downs not called as such and roughing the passer which the announcers all said was not roughing. The phantom DPI called right after the missed DPI. Ref are out to make a stand about being for the Chiefs. Guess what, it didn't matter.
Sure 54 points over 9 games is not a huge margin but half of them were playoff games ago against the strongest teams. Consider their opponents: Bengals, Ravens, Bills, and 49ers are the majority of those 9 games. But why add nuance to your takes. Why do any sort of dive into what’s really going on. Great show 🙄
If the falcons got PI, they would have scored and gave the ball back to the chiefs who would have controlled the game all the way to the end. THIS missed PI was the Falcons best opportunity because it gave them the ball at the end.
No it didn't. They had to get a stop and they did. Whose to say that the falcons stop them from converting the fourth and winning the game. Everyone just assumes the chiefs will score and the don't take into account the defense for the falcons
People who didn’t watch entire Chiefs game and who just hate them, say they got bailed out. It seemed as if the refs were trying to get the Chiefs to lose at the end.
Hypothetical? As if it's never happened? They missed a PI last year against Green Bay KC game that would of put the ball at the 4. Nobody cares, your totally unaware of it, because it went against the Chiefs.
The Chief's mystique has gotten into coaches' heads and caused them to coach differently than they would with other teams . . . coaches don't trust their defense to be able to stop Mahomes on late drives . . . the boogie man wins.
If the games were called fairly (meaning if they called pass interference, holding and gd Illegal formation on the Chiefs the same as their opponent) the Chiefs would be 0-3
yes pi was bad and should've been called, several bad calls on chiefs as well, pi called on chiefs leading up to that, there wide receiver runs into line backer called 2. several terrible calls after chris jones hitting passer when kurt just released ball & horse collar hmmm he grabbed the back of the jersey, not the back of sholder pad 3. even if falcons got the call and then scored, chiefs 2 time outs to work with and all they would need is a field goal 4. evrybody looks at the chiefs how they win refs whatever, every 16 games a week we could find something on either side to bitch about, good teams just find ways to win, remember team sport and three portions (offense, defense, special teams) at times we just need to give them the credit they deserve
Just remember that time Bill Barnwell did an in depth breakdown on the refs bailing out the Chiefs at the behest of Bengals fans and found out that (drum roll please) The refs like bailing out Joe Burrow and company more.
I love how y'all focus on the bad calls or non calls that go the Chiefs way, like no other games have bad calls. It happens to everyone. Get over it. I've watched the Chiefs for decades and seen many horrible calls and non calls go against them. It happens to all teams. Y'all just jealous because the Chiefs are in the middle of a dynasty. Suck it and get over it!! The dynasty won't last forever. Maybe your team is next and you will get all the same grief from the critics.
I would say no, if they iced the game right after with an offensive drive I would say yes, but since the defense then had to go out and hold the line again on a 4th down in the red zone to me means they earned the win. I just want the refs to be consistent and get it right, and missing that call and then calling a couple clear makeups on the next falcons drive just isnt a way to do it, no makeup call could equal a 1st down on the 1 yard line even if it was like 30ish yards in penalties. The chiefs earned the win since the refs were bad all around, because its the chiefs and its primetime people are hyper sensitive to it and it brings out the worst in the fans. TBH i have no clue how they fix it, the internet being what it is and the quality of replay we get now, fans go through every single play and call out every single missed call, its kind of ridiculous the way fans hate flags but then search for them after to "prove" its rigged. An external ref seems best but that would slow the game down so much and if they are just calling in stuff and holding up play the game would be so annoying to watch.
Literally in this game they had a horrible RPI go against them that gifted the Falcons a TD and then had multiple ridiculously bad calls in the Falcons' favor on their final drive. It's ridiculous when butthurt opposing fans just can't take the fact that the Chiefs make the most of the calls that go their favor and finish games, but their teams don't. Sorry, just the facts.
Bailed out by the refs is what fans of losing teams whine about. I know as a Chiefs fan I used to bitch about it. Atlanta called a dumbass zone blocking lateral running play on 4th and inches.
it's funny watching the entire NFL fanbase suffer from obvious selection bias when it comes to the Chiefs and the refs. If you take practically any close game you can always point at some specific penalty or missed call and selectively ignore all the other negative penalties or calls that don't fit their bias, and then pretend like the "refs are that teams pocket". The reason it's prevalent with the Chief's is because they play (and win) in a lot of close games. If I was a psychology PhD I'd write my dissertation on it.
That's more infuriating than shit reffing to me. The refs suck for every team. But they outcoach the other teams in the tough moments, you have to admit it.
I disagree, the games are pretty well called and instant replay helps a ton. Last night there was a call, ATL fumbled on a punt and turned the ball over like 12 yard line. I think KC had an 8 point lead and it basically would of been game over. Replay showed the guys elbow hit the ground and was a turnover. I remember thinking, god damn, we used to have to live with those horrific game changing calls, but instant replay gets the right. I remember in the 90's Christian Okoye had a fumble that was picked up and returned for a touchdown. Replayed showed he was clearly down, but they hadn't implemented instant replay to turn over calls like that. We literally just had to live with it.
@@ELI_ATL - 1. Completely irrelevant to the comment that was mentioned about not having a hard schedule. 2. If you want to complain they should be 0-3, okay. Does that really change the fact they will be there in the end? You know they will. Your team knows they will.
@baca1105 your stupid to think that just because there the cheats they can just magically win games. Mahomes hast been good lately and they lost the only good part of their offense with Pacheco.
@@ELI_ATL yeah, it turns out that the game is won or lost on plays fighting for small measurements. They should do something with that, call it... I want to say a game of ounces.
“Just get it right and you won’t get crucified..” Negative. Super Bowl against the eagles was the “correct,” call. “You CAN’T call that there!” AFC championship against the bengals, Mahomes is hit 6 yards out of bounds. “Gahhh! You gotta let em PLAY!” The last bengals game was an obvious text book DPI. “The refs always bail them out!” Maybe the Chiefs just make other teams so flustered, like they feel lied the chiefs are that old man with fishing pole and the dollar bill on it going, “Oh, you gotta be quicker than that!” And other teams just lose their shit…
You had me at: "Just get it right and you won’t get crucified..” Negative. Super Bowl against the eagles was the “correct,” call. “You CAN’T call that there!” AFC championship against the bengals, Mahomes is hit 6 yards out of bounds. “Gahhh! You gotta let em PLAY!” The last bengals game was an obvious text book DPI. “The refs always bail them out!” Maybe the Chiefs just make other teams so flustered, like they feel lied the chiefs are that old man with fishing pole and the dollar bill on it going, “Oh, you gotta be quicker than that!” And other teams just lose their shit…
Yes, but at this point, there's 20+ games where a bad call has bailed them out. It's ridiculous at this point. If the Chiefs were blowing other teams out, it wouldn't be an issue, but now they are barely winning, and there are so many super close games where a penalty against their opponent has literally affected the outcome of the game in their favor. A missed PI in the endzone is not made up for with a bad PI call at the 45.
Such a boring shallow take. The falcons got 3 penalties in their favor on their last drive and couldn’t do anything with it. Had they won would anyone be saying the refs ‘bailed’ the falcons out?
When a sport is in league with the Gambling Industry...do you really believe the game isn't fixed? The desired winner of the Super Bowl is already chosen. The only thing not dictated are injuries. This is the only thing keeping those chosen from achieving their reward.
Also, Tom, love you to death, but you don't get to complain about all the dumb conspiracy theories football fans come up with about logo colors and Taylor Swift when you continue to feed this one for the clickz
Wow!! This is what having the goat as your QB feels like!! Welcome to the Dynasty!! AFC ruled ruled football for 20 years under Brady, now AFC rules maybe another 20 under Mahomes...❤️💛❤️💛
Just remember the falcons could have kicked a field goal on 4th down both times that they were near the red zone to win the game 23 - 22. Cry about DPI all you want the falcons made some bone-headed decisions.
Except that after the Chiefs got that "timely" call, they basically got nothing and then the Falcons got multiple ridiculously timely calls in their favor on the final drive, extending them all the way down into the red zone. But of course, I wouldn't expect you to remember those, considering you're under the spell of confirmation bias/butthurt fan.
@@MWiggins-m2g listen make up calls don't help when they screw you out of a go ahead td. That's like putting aloe on a sun burn. I'd still rather not be burnt.
@@APEXSOUTH12 Number 1. that penalty was on 3rd down in their own territory, drive is over if it doesn't get called. The result of the drive that wouldn't have happened without the RTP is 7 points, the result of the missed DPI was the Chiefs going 3 and out and giving ATL the ball with 2 and a half minutes to go 65 yards. Number 2. I don't think you know what a suplex is. It's not synonymous with "knocked over".
Confirmation bias. The only way you're going to see a Chiefs win and not think the refs bailed them out is if the opposing team doesn't get a single penalty, and that almost never happens.
It doesn't even have to be a single penalty, people go through the film and dissect KC o line and point out every hold that these highly untrained amateurs see. Last week was an obvious PI, but we get all this "contraversial" bs. Remember the big controversy in the Eagles Super Bowl? Holding on Bradberry? Do you remember any controversy at all when McDuffie was called for holding in OT in the Superbowl against SF?
@@floatpool8307 The defense is objectively not good by every measurable statistic. 29th in yards allowed. 31st in passing yards. 18th in rushing yards. 20th in points allowed. Last year they were top 5 in almost every category. It may be early, but the facts are the facts. They aren't playing anywhere near as well as last year. And those numbers are prior to the Atlanta game.
Falcons got bailed out several times and couldn't take advantage of it.
Facts. This is the stuff folks don't wanna talk about. Chiefs have been within the top five in penalties called against them, third in yards against, and in the bottom third of the league in penalty differential, but somehow "tHe ChIeFs GeT aLl ThE cAlLs!!!!!111!!" It's obvious that people have transferred their Patriots fatigue to the Chiefs and I for one am gonna laugh about it because it's demonstratably untrue. Ask some people about the PI that got the Chiefs the SB win vs the Eagles. you can see Brad burry holding the Jersey from a yard behind the WR. Bradburry even directly admitted in the press after the game he did it. But some folks won't just accept that he did.
There were SO many missed calls vs the falcons last night. Several bad holding and PI calls missed.
And questionable soft flags for roughing the passer and PI.
Yea the chiefs wrs were getting held alot
On both sides. They were letting both teams play til it was egregious
Mcduffie had a stupid pi against when he was shoved.😡
@@jakeusaf9401 Poor Trent McDuffie lol. Get dragged to the ground by Ja'Marr Chase to prevent an interception on an overthrown fade? Defensive pass interference. Have Ray-Ray McCloud run into you in crunch time? Defensive pass interference.
And again, it's not a conspiracy against him or any one single player or team. If someone wants to claim as such, then they have to show proof. Saying that the league has a vague vested interest in a dynasty or that they want to please the Swifties or that the refs have arbitrary bets on the Chiefs is not proof. If the refs had bets on the Chiefs, then they'd call zero penalties on them lmao, especially in the last drive for the Falcons.
Did anyone see that play in the Lions Cardinals game? Cardinals got a pick six, then the refs said that they hit the two minute warning and it never happened. The lions SNAPPED THE BALL at the 2 minute mark, clearing trying to get a play off, and the refs decide after the fact it didn't happen? What the hell are we doing? We just handing out free plays if we feel like it?
I think there was some confusion there as the whistle was blowing the play dead at the two minute warning. Some players stopped and others didn't, and so the pass got intercepted on what was meant to be a dead play. It was just sloppy all around.
Yep, that horrible call handed the Lions the win. The ball was definitely snapped before the 2:00 mark.
@@OriginalGrasshopper yup, I rewound it live cuz thought the same thing and it was snapped at 2:01!
The game clock and what you see on TV are not always perfectly synced.
@@noah509 that was a weird chain of events,seems to me the NFL fired every good employee they had and went and got some bums off the street for refs and blind folks to run the clocks
Putting refball aside, the Chiefs somehow have this innate ability to make whoever's playing them act like absolute morons in the last few crucial plays. Refball had nothing to do with the blatant PI from Bengals and the 4th and inches play from the Falcons yesterday.
Other people have mentioned it but opposing teams start getting in their own heads cause it’s the chiefs and make stupid mistakes.
Used to happen with the patriots too
@@jkacvbhijfnfacts whenever the games were close with patriots I always thought someone on the other team was going to do something that is dumb. Russell throwing the pick in the end zone, falcons not clock management up 28-3
Just like how teams sabotaged themselves against the Patriots. Teams are doing just boneheaded things because of the success the chiefs have had
It wasn't pass interference!
lmao , the chiefs got away with a blatant PI a week after benefitting from a questionable PI. it aint just falcon fans that see it
the roughing call on cj95 happened on 3rd and if we don't get this we're punting.
ATL ended that drive with points, points vs punts, that definitely matters.
chaos dictates you can't say well this matters more cause i feel...
no, get "all" the calls right or don't complain about calls when both teams felt the sting of the whistle whip last night.
It should have been illegal hands to the face and offsetting because the reason he did it is because he couldn’t even see the ball was thrown
It should have been illegal hands to the face and no roughing the passer, making it 4th down@@chasingliberty1776
Chiefs fan here. That DPI no call was gross. We absolutely should have gotten the flag. But bad calls/no calls happen in every game. Holds are really bad. We just have everyone wanting us to lose and I would feel the same way if it was the Bills, Bengals, Broncos, etc... But like you guys said. It's just bad officiating. Plain and simple. The NFL would MUCH rather Mahomes and Kelce were on the Jets or Rams. Kansas city and our measly 3M metro residents are the last market that they want to win.
This is what I've been trying to convince the deranged crowd of for some time. Why would the NFL fix it for the Chiefs when they're a tiny market compared to NYC, LA, Houston, Chicago? In what universe do massive egos like virtually all NFL owners have just quietly give in to some unknown, shadowy script writers and accept that, "Sorry, your Jets/Bears don't get to win this century," "Sorry, your Oilers/Texans don't get to win ever, even though you're the 3rd largest market." And those owners just take it when some nerdy script writer says that small market teams like the Chiefs and Packers get to have two of the most impactful dynasties of the last 60 years? Yeah, riiiiigggghhhht.
This!
“Cockroaches of the league” that’s pretty funny. Chiefs fan here.
It’s the most accurate description of them. Almost Alabama like for those many years.
Refs missed an OBVIOUS Hands to the Face when Jones got the RTP passer penalty on 3rd and 6. Should have been a replayed 3rd down. Eventual TD Drive.
Refs threw an offensive and defensive holding on the Pitts 50 yard gain, but picked up the offensive holding flag. Came right after the RTP call on a TD drive.
Refs called McDuffie for DPI when he got trucked by the WR while owning his spot. That's a no call or OPI, but Bengals got a 1st down. Put Bengals in scoring position before the missed DPI.
The Horse Collar on KC was legit.
The DPI on Cook should have been called.
You can talk about "bailed out" but the biggest calls in the game all came on two drives where ATL was pushing for TDs. 3-1 in favor of ATL and it's all about the Chiefs getting bailed out. You fix those penalties in the first half, It's 7-7 and not 14-7. KC gets the two FGs and it's 13-7 and a different game. It doesn't mean the Chiefs win, but Atlanta has to go to different play calling.
Even on that Kyle Pitts Non-call, Jones is getting hands to the face, no call. Wharton looks like he’s getting held as well, no call
@@jacobtuttle6063 When it’s all added up, Bad calls all around. At least the Falcons had plenty of time to shake em off and move on. If they had wanted that game, they could’ve/should’ve won the game.
Chiefs and Falcons were both penalized 6 times in the game but the Chiefs were hit for 50% more penalty yards than the Falcons AND the Falcons were gifted with 4 first downs on penalty to the Chiefs' zero. If the refs are really trying to give the Chiefs the game, they're doing a really shitty job of it.
I just come here to watch a grown man (Perna) cry about the refs. 😂
Is he grown? LOL
you’re a grown man crying about him
@@cadenanderson1042 by your logic you’re a grown man crying about me lol
The MLB Umps do the same thing, but with less transparency. They basically put on the headset by the camera well, and listen to their favorite classic rock song, before coming back out, and confirming their call. Even when NY tells them it should "probably" be overturned, they don't HAVE to listen. Eye in the sky is the right way to go about those types of calls, but it'll never make it to the pros, which is unfortunate.
Can't wait for Chiefs to have a good game. Maybe it will be against the Broncos?
The donkies make their opponents better. It's like an inverted reverse vacuum.
Tom was spot on! That game had terrible calls and no calls for both teams. Its a league wide issue with officiating no doubt. They tried out the challenging the PI calls a few years ago right? Or am I just stoned... If so why didn't that work? Seems like a good idea as it is usually one of the most controversial calls or no calls.
If theirs one person we can all agree on is that Goodell is screwing up everything 😅
Chiefs fan here. The dpi no call was bad. Obvious dpi. However there were multiple bad calls that went against the chiefs. Some of which sustained drives. Chiefs were the most penalized team in the league last year. Bad calls hit everyone. People just focus on the chiefs and calls that benifit them because they usually win.
Yup, the roughing the passer call on jones. If that is roughing the passer, we need a clarification on exactly what roughing is.
I’m with you dude but calling it bad is kinda light. A call that alters the whole game is egregious. I’m a falcons fan that wanted us to kick FGs and avoid all that jazz. To me that chiefs offense did not look as scary and you gotta get points, you see the Philly game they were terrified of FGs and almost lost cause of it.
@@AnvarAminjanov I see what you're saying but every call and non call could be the difference or nothing at all. Without a crystal ball, other outcomes are just speculation. And the roughing against Jones sustained a drive that ended in points for you guys. The lack of consistency from the refs is really frustrating though. Regardless, Atlanta played a good game. I think they'll have a good season if they can stay healthy.
@@Lucas12v No, no, not every callis a maybe it wont issue. One of the biggest problems I see that I think gets the Chiefs a lot of flak is how many times it happens on the last drive. A flag on the games final drive in a one score game will almost always have the potential to make or break.
When holding got called against the Chiefs last week, you knew it meant they prolly lose. When that DPI happened, you knew the Bengals lost.
Timing matters a lot in the game, especially Pass Interference calls in a one score game.
I'm with you, all the other mumbo jumbo. Ohhhh, that no call in Q2 or Q3. That don't matter. N that's why I dislike the Chiefs, or rather their GAMES. Because at least 70% of the time, a flag will matter. Be it a win or lose, you just KNOW there will be that last minute flag that ends the game 2 minutes early.
@@LilyMaeBlossom There was a bad call against the chiefs on the very last drive. The one where the falcons had the ball. By your logic, that call is even more important than the missed dpi since it was later in the game. If the falcons won I doubt people would complain half as hard about that last bad call as they currently are about the dpi no call.
A call on the first play of the game could change the outcome. Just because we don't know doesn't mean the effect can't be large. Like I said, refs screwed up but it's just luck who gets the benefit. I don't think last year's most penalized team is getting special treatment.
Tom when does the Vikings magic run out
Hopefully this week!
Vikings are fools gold
Not happenin@@the6thpackbrewbuck
Hopefully after the Super Bowl.
@@the6thpackbrewbuck Vegas hasn't yet realized that Darnold has that dog in him this year. He had a year as a backup to get his head right & study under a coach who's good at winning.
To the Chiefs fans who love to talk down to people complaining about the calls going KCs way and calling them crybabies. I do have a question for you. Remember the AFC Championship against New England? When that C. Ward interception that would of sent KC to the Super Bowl was overturned on a ticky tacky call that went New England's way?Game goes to OT, Patriots win the coin toss, Chiefs never get the ball. (There was also a controversial call roughing the passer call against Chris Jones that was a boost for the Patriots). If you complained about thoes calls then, saying that "Brady and the Pats ALWAYS get the calls" and you're now scoffing at people who are mad Pitts didn't get that PI, are you not being at least a little bit hypocritical? Just a bit?
Or if you complained about not getting the ball under the old (postseason) OT rules in that game, but had no sympathy for the Bills when the same thing happened to them.
Chief's 🔥 chieffin' it up! Gotta keep it close up to the end, makes every game feel like the superbowl.
Broncos, Chargers, and Raiders fans now understand what Bears, Vikings, and especially Lions fans had to endure from 2011 - 2022 while Rodgers was getting every close call go his way and seemingly every pick six negated by a phantom penalty.
The elite QB inequality is a staple of the NFL.
@BillBarnwell breaks it down on Twitter--excuse me, "X." What we really need are professional refs who are trained and not part-timers. We'd probably see more continuity in games then. Falcons could have won that game--should've won it--with or without refs--had they gone for a FG or a better 4th down play at the end.
Mahomes has thrown 27 INTS negated by defensive penalties. That's like 8 more than Brady had in his 23 seasons.
LMFAO so he takes chances on free plays that he knows won't count if picked off, great observation Watson!
It's not free plays😂
Delusional chiefs fan
The number just keeps growing, it'll be 50 by the time Chiefs play next.
@@TommyQim-jk1dlfirst off it's not 27 it's 16, your just making sh!t up. Next, I of them happened on defensive offsides, so atleast 8 of those 16 were on free plays.
There’s was also a PI on McDuffie on Falcons final drive that shouldn’t of been called but no one wants to talk about that
The Chiefs just know how to win when it matters
I'm sick of this conversation, there were plenty of missed calls and BS calls on both teams.
I think the Chiefs winning by such narrow margins game after game is why the officiating gets blamed for causing the teams that they are playing against to lose. There are bad calls or no-calls on both teams in every game, but when the score is tight it feels like those calls matter more, and the Chiefs have that clutch, post season discipline that allows them to not make dumb mistakes and draw dumb penalties late in games that other teams just don't have.
"ThE BiLlS aNd JoSh AlLeN aRe BeTtEr ThAn ThE cHiEfS" 🥴🥴 *HOW MANY YEARS HAVE WE HAD TO HEAR THAT?*
I honestly would have felt so much better about the Falcons losing if they had called DPI, the Falcons scored, and then the Chiefs scored to take the lead again. At least it would have made the Chief's win feel like "oh, they /are/ good." Instead, I feel like the win was caused by Falcon mistakes rather than good Chiefs play.
The loss was due to Falcons mistakes. Should have taken the points. Going for it opened the door for the missed call. Even so, they forced a KC 3 and out, with an opportunity to take a 1-3 point lead with next to no time left. They needed a TD but could have ended with a game winning kick had they taken points the drive before.
Speaking of impactful ... Before Koo's FG to keep them in the game from 54yd ... Cousins threw the ball and hit his lineman in the head... Which should have made the FG 59yd .. on top of that... It was also grounding which would have taken them out of FG range
Ok... take off the PI. Let's say instead that the falcons get the call and go 1st and goal from the 1. They're down 5 with 55 seconds left. In that situation I think Andy Reid just let's them run it in. That puts them up 1. I have to assume that they go for 2 to try to make it a 3 point game, and I give them a 45% chance of making it. That means Mahomes gets the ball back with 50 seconds, 2 timeouts, and has 4 downs to get into field goal range for a chance to tie it, or more likely win it. As a Chiefs fan, that's what I wanted to see. And I think that's what everyone else wanted to see attempted. The refs didn't give the chiefs the game, they just tarnished the victory by missing a pretty obvious penalty. Then they probably knew they messed up so they started calling BS against us and almost cost us the game right back. I would say it was just a bad game by all parties. The falcons couldn't quite keep up with the Chiefs. I think losing huge parts of their O-line ruined their game plan. The Chiefs played way worse than they should have, and the refs were terrible for both sides.
Best analysis I’ve seen so far.
The very next drive was a 3 and out and the game was very much still in contention.
The chiefs went 3 and out lol
@@APEXSOUTH12so you just admitted Falcons had a chance and blew it,thanks for that,next time try harder
@@ELI_ATLAnd you think they wouldn’t have went for it on fourth instead of punting? The game would have been on the line there would be no three and outs
NFL needs to watch the UFL and copy their refereeing. The football itself is sloppy in the UFL too often, but it's a growing league so I'll give it a pass. The refereeing, the sense of accountability especially and changing calls to make the right one was the main thing that kept me watching. It's so refreshing to see like "whoops messed the initial call up" and changing it. Refs are human, they only have one set of eyes they need to physically move around with their bodies. Have them review calls from different camera angles, it's so simple. The UFL can do it, so can the NFL.
That point differential is a testament to how much the refs help decide the games in the Chiefs favor.
Saw a few helmets ripped off of the linemen in the Chiefs/Falcons game. Got to imagine there was more hands to the face going on than what was being called, lols.
this offense is a LEGO set with all the pieces thrown on the floor.
it's going to be beautiful, the best things often need a little extra time.
I have to disagree. It’s the exact same offense we saw last year. Dropped passes, crossing routes, jet sweeps, WR screens, and a bunch of dink and dunk throws. At least there wasn’t a drop for a pick six last night.
3 defensive penalties that led to 3 first downs was not as impactful? it put them inside the 10 with less than a minute and a chance to take the lead. The falcons blew their chance! Go Chiefs!
Parna, the "make-up" calls were not impactful because the Falcons didn't score...if they did score, then the make-up calls would have mattered. The flags are only meaningful if something meaningful happens. Just because there is a flag in the last few minutes does not mean it is impactful.
My theory is that the issues between Taylor and Britney are bleeding into the relationship between Travis and Patrick
Of course, the NFL is a business and the officials know it
It just feels like the Chiefs don’t get “all the calls” but they just seem to get the most impactful calls on the game. The big moment calls/no calls. Inconsistent with the rest of the game.
But it’s in every other game too, we just see it more since they’re in prime slots each week.
But the Falcons got two imaginary calls on that last drive. Illegal hands to the face on Conner when he never even touched the guy's face or facemask and DPI on McDuffie when WR literally blasted into him with a two-handed block downfield. It was 100% OPI and McDuffie called for it. Those are impactful calls and it's not even close. They extended the Falcons final drive unfairly, bailing them out. Very impactful. It's just unlike the Chiefs, they blew it when they got bad calls going their favor. The Chiefs virtually always seem to make them count.
It actually was a couple of good calls. Like the pass interference and the horse collar. 1st on the 1 or 1st on the 34. That don't equal the same result
Nobody gives 2 sh!ts when a call benefits Chiefs opponet. Superbowl against the Eagles people are still whining about the Bradberry hold, did anybody complain when SF got a hold in OT that kept their drive alive?
Was anybody bitching last week when KC gotva penalty for hands to the face which negated a 1st down and put KC in FG range. Nope, that's a perfectly fine call, but 1 seconds later, you just can't call PI in that spot and decide the game.
Was anybody arguing that the refs can't call PI last night to decide the game?
The Chiefs are playing the same way Philly played before they collapsed last season.
They are playing the same way the Chiefs played last season before they won the Super Bowl
@@SoulGlaive No they aren't. Last year the Chiefs offense struggled, but the defense was top 5 throughout the year. This year the defense is very sus and the offense is slightly above average.
Keep doubting
Are they or are you just saying that because you really wanted to be true?
You guys never learn lol
Also the phantom roughing call against the chiefs no one talkinh about that falcons scored on
Pardon me.... do you have any Grey Bijan?
The nfl is the wwe of football as the script writer knows
Chris Jones roughing (that resulted in 7 points), phantom hands to the face (on the last drive), phantom PI (on the last drive), but please NFL fan crybabies, let's focus on the non PI call with 4.5 minutes left in the game that would have put ATL up by less than a field goal. 🤦♂
Hate us cuz they ain’t us 🤙🏼
I may be a Chiefs fan but, i can admit it looked like PI to me
i mean not like the fans have any say about how refs call a game so not blame to you guys haha plus im sure there will be a shitty call against the Chiefs at a crucial time some point this year like there is for everyone
Everyone admits it’s DPI, but no one wants to admit there are missed calls throughout the game on both sides that hurt and help both teams. Everyone wants to pretend only the chiefs benefit
@@TheCephalon It's different when the missed call is supposed to give you 1st down at the 1 yard line.
@@davidhughey1386And what about the roughing the passer call that lead to a falcons td?
@@slimeshadetree13 That RTP call didn't even put the Falcons in Chiefs' territory. They still had to go half the field to score.
If KC had lost a First and Goal at the Atlanta one yard line because of that call, then it would equivalent. But that isn't the case. It isn't equivalent.
The refs were bad for both teams last night. Like that bs pi on McDuffie. The receiver literally plowed into him while he was standing still, if anything it should have been on the offense.
If you have 3rd down and 3 inches to go and don’t make it…that’s on you, not the refs….now it’s 4th down and again super short to line,of gain…what?5 inches this time …and you call a sweep around left end…which results in Nick Bolton recording a 3 yard tackle for loss…again…that’s on you…every week there are dozens of missed calls..but if you can’t get it done at the line of scrimmage…that’s on you, not the refs….when you have an easy 3 inches to gain for first down…and fail….that is some great defensive play calling by SPAGS…that’s it…
The Chiefs get penalties, too. There were a couple of times during the game that the Falcons O-Lineman went hands to the face. And it wasn't called. Oh well, refs missed it.
I agree though that was pass interference. And maybe the Receiver and Defender were hand wrestling in the end zone and possibly Pitts was pushing off a little. One thing is for sure, Cousins needed to put that pass higher.
Also in my 3000 hours of watching football in any game you watch. Refs have missed some obvious pass interference calls. 😊
How about the no call on illegal hands to the face for Chris Jones and then he gets called for roughing the passer because his head his shoved to the sky and can’t see that the ball was thrown. Falcons were bailed out and scored a TD on that drive
Got to remember that Patrick Mahomes is to this generation of NFL football fans as Tom Brady was to the past generation of NFL football fans 🏈🏟️🏈🏟️.
I don't hear any of you guys bitching about the Chris Jones call where he let the f****** quarterback down like on a soft pillow and they called it a penalty, a 15 yard penalty
Ruffing the passer is about being late with the hit not if it's to hard
@@floatpool8307I would agree but the missed dpi call was after the roughing call on cj,and if that weak azz roughing call wasnt called,the they still.wouldve been tied at. that point,but that bad call led to a Falcons td,then the missed dpi came in 3rd quarter which didnt affect the game as much as everyone wanted it to,so the refs made up a bunch of calls and Falcons still.couldnt do shyt
First, hi, love your video, you two, and yes, they did that look like the flag they got in the superbowl against the Eagles
You might want to take your advice about understanding football being ahead always has better chance of winning since you already are...
Let's see if they would have gotten the DPI and scored a touchdown that would leave 4ish minutes with Mahomes with the ball to close it out. I would put my money on Mahomes in that situation 100% of the time. Same with the Ravens if they would have gotten that TD they still needed 2 points. Just losing protracted. KC would still have gotten the DUB. Also, multiple first downs not called as such and roughing the passer which the announcers all said was not roughing. The phantom DPI called right after the missed DPI. Ref are out to make a stand about being for the Chiefs. Guess what, it didn't matter.
At some point the easiest answer is probably the right one. The refs are inconsistent like they've been for decades.
The whole world complains that they called dpi on cinci when it was now you want it called this week. How about you be consistent
The consistency is the refs helping the chiefs. No contradiction here at all
Sure 54 points over 9 games is not a huge margin but half of them were playoff games ago against the strongest teams. Consider their opponents: Bengals, Ravens, Bills, and 49ers are the majority of those 9 games. But why add nuance to your takes. Why do any sort of dive into what’s really going on. Great show 🙄
Idk, I guess we'll find out when this week's Scripted drops. 😂
The Chiefs are winning with defense and special teams
If the falcons got PI, they would have scored and gave the ball back to the chiefs who would have controlled the game all the way to the end. THIS missed PI was the Falcons best opportunity because it gave them the ball at the end.
No it didn't. They had to get a stop and they did. Whose to say that the falcons stop them from converting the fourth and winning the game. Everyone just assumes the chiefs will score and the don't take into account the defense for the falcons
People who didn’t watch entire Chiefs game and who just hate them, say they got bailed out. It seemed as if the refs were trying to get the Chiefs to lose at the end.
Are these Broncos guys, what a bunch of DB's
Perna is, Grossi Packers fan
Mahomes is throwing behind his targets, and if .... no when they figure it out, they are going to destroy someone.
Winners win.
Lets do a little experiment with a hypothetical. Lets say the Chiefs lose due to a botched call, what are you guys going to say in that instance?
Hypothetical? As if it's never happened?
They missed a PI last year against Green Bay KC game that would of put the ball at the 4.
Nobody cares, your totally unaware of it, because it went against the Chiefs.
The Chief's mystique has gotten into coaches' heads and caused them to coach differently than they would with other teams . . . coaches don't trust their defense to be able to stop Mahomes on late drives . . . the boogie man wins.
If the games were called fairly (meaning if they called pass interference, holding and gd Illegal formation on the Chiefs the same as their opponent) the Chiefs would be 0-3
sorry fellas i can show you plenty of plays both ways every game. you just have blinders on when its the chiefs
My God there was a lot of really shit football yesterday.
Cause it's rigged for the Swifties
yes pi was bad and should've been called, several bad calls on chiefs as well, pi called on chiefs leading up to that, there wide receiver runs into line backer called 2. several terrible calls after chris jones hitting passer when kurt just released ball & horse collar hmmm he grabbed the back of the jersey, not the back of sholder pad 3. even if falcons got the call and then scored, chiefs 2 time outs to work with and all they would need is a field goal 4. evrybody looks at the chiefs how they win refs whatever, every 16 games a week we could find something on either side to bitch about, good teams just find ways to win, remember team sport and three portions (offense, defense, special teams) at times we just need to give them the credit they deserve
Just remember that time Bill Barnwell did an in depth breakdown on the refs bailing out the Chiefs at the behest of Bengals fans and found out that (drum roll please)
The refs like bailing out Joe Burrow and company more.
Minnesota 17-0
I love how y'all focus on the bad calls or non calls that go the Chiefs way, like no other games have bad calls. It happens to everyone. Get over it. I've watched the Chiefs for decades and seen many horrible calls and non calls go against them. It happens to all teams. Y'all just jealous because the Chiefs are in the middle of a dynasty. Suck it and get over it!! The dynasty won't last forever. Maybe your team is next and you will get all the same grief from the critics.
I would say no, if they iced the game right after with an offensive drive I would say yes, but since the defense then had to go out and hold the line again on a 4th down in the red zone to me means they earned the win.
I just want the refs to be consistent and get it right, and missing that call and then calling a couple clear makeups on the next falcons drive just isnt a way to do it, no makeup call could equal a 1st down on the 1 yard line even if it was like 30ish yards in penalties. The chiefs earned the win since the refs were bad all around, because its the chiefs and its primetime people are hyper sensitive to it and it brings out the worst in the fans.
TBH i have no clue how they fix it, the internet being what it is and the quality of replay we get now, fans go through every single play and call out every single missed call, its kind of ridiculous the way fans hate flags but then search for them after to "prove" its rigged. An external ref seems best but that would slow the game down so much and if they are just calling in stuff and holding up play the game would be so annoying to watch.
In a vacuum that call would be bad. But literally every single game they have a controversial call/no-call go their way, and that’s just absurd
Literally in this game they had a horrible RPI go against them that gifted the Falcons a TD and then had multiple ridiculously bad calls in the Falcons' favor on their final drive. It's ridiculous when butthurt opposing fans just can't take the fact that the Chiefs make the most of the calls that go their favor and finish games, but their teams don't. Sorry, just the facts.
Kiss the Rings choads.
Bailed out by the refs is what fans of losing teams whine about. I know as a Chiefs fan I used to bitch about it. Atlanta called a dumbass zone blocking lateral running play on 4th and inches.
it's funny watching the entire NFL fanbase suffer from obvious selection bias when it comes to the Chiefs and the refs. If you take practically any close game you can always point at some specific penalty or missed call and selectively ignore all the other negative penalties or calls that don't fit their bias, and then pretend like the "refs are that teams pocket". The reason it's prevalent with the Chief's is because they play (and win) in a lot of close games. If I was a psychology PhD I'd write my dissertation on it.
What a nothing burger of a paragraph
@@TommyQim-jk1dl what a nothing burger of a response. It's almost like you know you're full of shit.
Tommy = npc
@@TommyQim-jk1dl his paragraph is more honest than any other person who claims refs are cheating for the Chiefs,bum
@rodgermiller8980 if you actually knew how football works you'd know that pi isn't only supposed to be called against the team that plays the chiefs
Im convinced chiefs have some mind control device that makes opposing teams shit their pants at critical moments and during the end of the game
That's more infuriating than shit reffing to me. The refs suck for every team. But they outcoach the other teams in the tough moments, you have to admit it.
God the refs are soooo ass nowadays man
I disagree, the games are pretty well called and instant replay helps a ton.
Last night there was a call, ATL fumbled on a punt and turned the ball over like 12 yard line. I think KC had an 8 point lead and it basically would of been game over.
Replay showed the guys elbow hit the ground and was a turnover.
I remember thinking, god damn, we used to have to live with those horrific game changing calls, but instant replay gets the right.
I remember in the 90's Christian Okoye had a fumble that was picked up and returned for a touchdown. Replayed showed he was clearly down, but they hadn't implemented instant replay to turn over calls like that. We literally just had to live with it.
Just to torment you Pena.
Its crazzy people are okay with refs calling non penalties as make up calls but complain on missed penalty calls... the hate for the chiefs is upppp
They were bailed out by the fact they got to play the FALCONS. I thought the defending champs were supposed to have the hardest schedule 🤣 💯
They just beat the past 2 AFC Championship participants in the Ravens and the Bengals LOL
@@baca1105raven by a toe and bengals by a pi and falcons by a missed pi. Could’ve been 0-3 so frigging easily.
@@ELI_ATL - 1. Completely irrelevant to the comment that was mentioned about not having a hard schedule.
2. If you want to complain they should be 0-3, okay. Does that really change the fact they will be there in the end? You know they will. Your team knows they will.
@baca1105 your stupid to think that just because there the cheats they can just magically win games. Mahomes hast been good lately and they lost the only good part of their offense with Pacheco.
@@ELI_ATL yeah, it turns out that the game is won or lost on plays fighting for small measurements. They should do something with that, call it... I want to say a game of ounces.
My chiefs are the new patriots and i no likey
Fuck them haters, let them cope
“Just get it right and you won’t get crucified..”
Negative. Super Bowl against the eagles was the “correct,” call.
“You CAN’T call that there!”
AFC championship against the bengals, Mahomes is hit 6 yards out of bounds.
“Gahhh! You gotta let em PLAY!”
The last bengals game was an obvious text book DPI. “The refs always bail them out!”
Maybe the Chiefs just make other teams so flustered, like they feel lied the chiefs are that old man with fishing pole and the dollar bill on it going, “Oh, you gotta be quicker than that!” And other teams just lose their shit…
You had me at: "Just get it right and you won’t get crucified..”
Negative. Super Bowl against the eagles was the “correct,” call.
“You CAN’T call that there!”
AFC championship against the bengals, Mahomes is hit 6 yards out of bounds.
“Gahhh! You gotta let em PLAY!”
The last bengals game was an obvious text book DPI. “The refs always bail them out!”
Maybe the Chiefs just make other teams so flustered, like they feel lied the chiefs are that old man with fishing pole and the dollar bill on it going, “Oh, you gotta be quicker than that!” And other teams just lose their shit…
Losers blame refs 😂 ain't hearing missed PI calls unless you're a 2006 Seahawk
Yes, but at this point, there's 20+ games where a bad call has bailed them out. It's ridiculous at this point. If the Chiefs were blowing other teams out, it wouldn't be an issue, but now they are barely winning, and there are so many super close games where a penalty against their opponent has literally affected the outcome of the game in their favor. A missed PI in the endzone is not made up for with a bad PI call at the 45.
Happened all last season. It'll happen again this season. Nothing fans can do about it anyway.
Chiefs favorite play is throwing deep on 4th down and just getting the ref to call PI. It’s utter BS.
Outsides of the obvious call last week, please name the other games where this has happened?
@@kcnoiseeven after that call the Falcons got three bail outs that got them all the way to KCs 12 yard line. Haters just want to fuel narratives
Such a boring shallow take. The falcons got 3 penalties in their favor on their last drive and couldn’t do anything with it. Had they won would anyone be saying the refs ‘bailed’ the falcons out?
When a sport is in league with the Gambling Industry...do you really believe the game isn't fixed? The desired winner of the Super Bowl is already chosen. The only thing not dictated are injuries. This is the only thing keeping those chosen from achieving their reward.
Also, Tom, love you to death, but you don't get to complain about all the dumb conspiracy theories football fans come up with about logo colors and Taylor Swift when you continue to feed this one for the clickz
The chiefs are 4 bad calls away from 0-3.
Wow!! This is what having the goat as your QB feels like!! Welcome to the Dynasty!! AFC ruled ruled football for 20 years under Brady, now AFC rules maybe another 20 under Mahomes...❤️💛❤️💛
Best 3 and 0 team is definitely the refs. Having so many undefeated seasons is absolutely insane by the zebras.
Pffft
Sorry about your hotdogs
Just remember the falcons could have kicked a field goal on 4th down both times that they were near the red zone to win the game 23 - 22. Cry about DPI all you want the falcons made some bone-headed decisions.
The only consistent thing is the cheifs getting timely calls
Except that after the Chiefs got that "timely" call, they basically got nothing and then the Falcons got multiple ridiculously timely calls in their favor on the final drive, extending them all the way down into the red zone. But of course, I wouldn't expect you to remember those, considering you're under the spell of confirmation bias/butthurt fan.
@@MWiggins-m2g listen make up calls don't help when they screw you out of a go ahead td. That's like putting aloe on a sun burn. I'd still rather not be burnt.
@@APEXSOUTH12 they gave you a TD earlier with a bs RTP otherwise it's punt .. so cry harder
@@GRITBONEnumber 1. that penalty didn't get 1st and goal.
Number 2. That wasn't a bs call kirk got suplexed, I've seen way worse roughing CALLS
@@APEXSOUTH12 Number 1. that penalty was on 3rd down in their own territory, drive is over if it doesn't get called. The result of the drive that wouldn't have happened without the RTP is 7 points, the result of the missed DPI was the Chiefs going 3 and out and giving ATL the ball with 2 and a half minutes to go 65 yards.
Number 2. I don't think you know what a suplex is. It's not synonymous with "knocked over".
Confirmation bias. The only way you're going to see a Chiefs win and not think the refs bailed them out is if the opposing team doesn't get a single penalty, and that almost never happens.
It doesn't even have to be a single penalty, people go through the film and dissect KC o line and point out every hold that these highly untrained amateurs see.
Last week was an obvious PI, but we get all this "contraversial" bs.
Remember the big controversy in the Eagles Super Bowl? Holding on Bradberry? Do you remember any controversy at all when McDuffie was called for holding in OT in the Superbowl against SF?
The refs ruined the NFL for me.
Cockroach’s of the nfl…
lol
- Chiefs fan
No team can win a 2v1
Chiefs beat Falcons last night,you mean like this game,refs damn near gifted Falcons 2 tds and Falcons still couldnt win,so cry more cry baby
Crybaby who didn't even watch the game.
Probably. Maybe. After last season and the blatant Refball I've lost my love for football. I'm just watching you two and UTree for the entertainment.
This Chiefs team reminds me of the 2022 Vikings. Kind of strange and flukey wins. A poor defense. Okayish to really good offense.
@@floatpool8307 The defense is objectively not good by every measurable statistic. 29th in yards allowed. 31st in passing yards. 18th in rushing yards. 20th in points allowed. Last year they were top 5 in almost every category. It may be early, but the facts are the facts. They aren't playing anywhere near as well as last year.
And those numbers are prior to the Atlanta game.
Short answer: No
Short and long answer: yes
That's also the wrong answer!
@@gilbert8162pls tell me how
@@gilbert8162long answer: NO