USS Shenzhou Walker Class Refit VS USS Enterprise A - Both Ways - Star Trek Starship Battles

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
  • #startrek #starships
    Today we are going to check out an update to the Walker Class Refit.
    A big thank you to MSR1701 for sending this over to the channel.
    What will happen if we put it up against the USS Enterprise A?
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  • @stephandolby
    @stephandolby 7 місяців тому +50

    The Constitution II is a full 50 years more recent, and a ship class above. There's no way she should be having trouble with a Walker-class.

    • @Watcher1134
      @Watcher1134 7 місяців тому +1

      If i had to choose i would put the Georgiou Class against an Excelsior or Constitution II Class (Yes it is now considered Mark-II instead of a refit in canon). All 3 ships are TMP Era.

    • @haroldchase4120
      @haroldchase4120 7 місяців тому +5

      I have often found these games tend to make the connie under powered 😊

    • @jrcash7546
      @jrcash7546 4 місяці тому +2

      Completely agree. There is a lot of inaccuracies in this game I have noticed. I wish it was more accurate.
      Could you imagine today having a 50 year old warship against a ship today. Absolutely no match whatsoever. And given how technology advances so much faster as time goes on, in the future, the Enterprise A would basically look at the Shenzhou and it would blow up if this was anyway remotely accurate.

  • @aquariandawn4750
    @aquariandawn4750 5 місяців тому +9

    Always seems new Trek ships are made godlike. Almost as if they despise any Trek before them.

  • @ringo1029384756
    @ringo1029384756 7 місяців тому +9

    In universe, theres no way the Enterprise-A should have issues with a Walker Class vessel. I think this version of the Walker is way too overpowered.

    • @MSR-1701
      @MSR-1701 7 місяців тому +2

      Yarp, this is an early test, and next on my checklist is the phaser/shield/hull scaling. 😅

  • @MSR-1701
    @MSR-1701 7 місяців тому +17

    Nice Showcase! 😅
    Me thinks the phasers need to be dialed back a wee bit in damage rates...😂😂😂

  • @gamingwithnoel
    @gamingwithnoel 7 місяців тому +27

    Yea, seems the A's weapons are underpowered or the walker refit is overpowered.

    • @MSR-1701
      @MSR-1701 7 місяців тому +5

      I'd say the Walker is Overpowered, this is a test build and the balancing looks to need phasers reduced a wee bit.😂

    • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
      @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 7 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, the Connie II's Type VII phasers should be 50% more powerful than the Walker's Type VIs.

  • @MisterMarin
    @MisterMarin 7 місяців тому +9

    I have a feeling these battles have started to take their toll on your mental health. Might I suggest a trip to Risa? 😉

  • @Prang972
    @Prang972 7 місяців тому +3

    Seems like the Conni's torpedoes didn't do anything there at the end

  • @retluoc
    @retluoc 7 місяців тому +2

    I've been looking at some of the comments, and I agree. I think the Walker was overpowered in this game.
    That hull just wouldn't collapse even after you knocked out their shields.
    Maybe they polarized the hull plating. 😄

  • @stevelapierre4776
    @stevelapierre4776 7 місяців тому +3

    😲That Walker class refit, looks amazing.. love the details and look of it.. and has power very nice ship.. but eeeh.. Don't think Scotty is gonna like that lol.. ouch... well done on the second battle Admiral.. that was great tactics.. I like the '' Pew Pew'' since at end of Lower Decks show, you hear someone saying '' Pew, Pew Pew..'' lol. Yes.. Ent B , the scheduling is crazy for installations.. lol. love the battle Admiral.. 😊🖖

  • @mcgoogle4812
    @mcgoogle4812 7 місяців тому +6

    You'll only win against enterprise b if you play on monday as everything is fitted on tuesday

  • @JoseMoreira-vo8cu
    @JoseMoreira-vo8cu 7 місяців тому +2

    Walker kicked ass so long as you controlled it, the moment you handed it over, meow, roll over, play dead.

  • @deepdivedylan
    @deepdivedylan 7 місяців тому +5

    2:54 that's not a saucer separation, that's a Scotty separation!
    4:08 don't tell me. Tuesday!?

    • @retluoc
      @retluoc 7 місяців тому +1

      Scotty separation... good one 😆

  • @alanbaker2347
    @alanbaker2347 2 місяці тому

    WOW that was Seriously Amazing & 2 Amazing Starships

  • @Daginni1
    @Daginni1 7 місяців тому +2

    Technically it is the Constitution Refit, Refit by the time of TMP. DISCO established that Connie had a previous version to the TOS Version. And its so funny that there is a Connie Refit, Refit, Refit version in your mods.

    • @jonasklose6472
      @jonasklose6472 7 місяців тому +1

      A previous version that was a lot bigger and more advanced, that is of course. 😂

  • @blacktronpavel
    @blacktronpavel 6 місяців тому +3

    Way overpowered

  • @TrentonBennett
    @TrentonBennett 7 місяців тому +2

    One thing I didn't like that why Starfleet didn't include an aft torpedo launcher on the Connie Refits. I thought that's one thing they should have changed for the Connie Refits. I agree that this contest has to go to the Walker class. It's definitely no slouch.

    • @aaronatwood9298
      @aaronatwood9298 7 місяців тому +2

      There was one. 1701-A had one, as did 1701 by WOK.

    • @TrentonBennett
      @TrentonBennett 7 місяців тому +1

      @@aaronatwood9298 The 1701 Refit did NOT have aft torpedo launcher. If they did they would have used it in the Mutara Nebula. Also the Enterprise-A didn't have one...at least according to official cross sections of the ships.

  • @davidmardlin9733
    @davidmardlin9733 7 місяців тому +2

    Put the walker against the enterprise B but do it on Tuesday

  • @skylerroxasmidoriyatardisp2882
    @skylerroxasmidoriyatardisp2882 7 місяців тому +1

    I just noticed you crossed 10K subs! Did you do anything to celebrate?

    • @RetroBadgerGaming
      @RetroBadgerGaming  7 місяців тому +1

      Indeed! There was a 10K subscriber celebration video, with interviews :-). ua-cam.com/video/VlRKDIrK7Wc/v-deo.html

  • @02ujtb00626
    @02ujtb00626 7 місяців тому +1

    I would have to disagree with you. I give this to the Connie, not for it's brute strength but for it's endurance. I feel like it's shields were ultimately stronger and as a result was able to hold out longer. The real test would do an online battle with a real person though.

  • @pyrolight7568
    @pyrolight7568 7 місяців тому +1

    Ya, again the issue is there is no balancing mechanic. Still thinking of a 50 photon/quantum launching ship. I mean why not? It would fit right in with so much of the nonsense.

  • @kagmich5796
    @kagmich5796 7 місяців тому +2

    I'm assuming you are running all of these ships on the remastered STBC game. Do you need special mods to use these ships or will most mods (currently available) work with remastered? Thanks

    • @MSR-1701
      @MSR-1701 7 місяців тому +1

      Only mods updated for BC Remastered (RE) will run, as there are key differences for BC RE from other versions of BC.

  • @jonasklose6472
    @jonasklose6472 7 місяців тому +2

    They changed it... slightly. 😅

  • @Cyke98
    @Cyke98 7 місяців тому +2

    If you ever do use the Enterprise-B in a match-up, make sure you do so on a Tuesday. You might have some bad results otherwise...

  • @BertoPerez82
    @BertoPerez82 7 місяців тому +1

    This is what happens when Scotty takes a vacation, and Kirk didn't hide the keys from the cadets.

  • @aaronmurphy2599
    @aaronmurphy2599 7 місяців тому +2

    It would probably be a quick battle but we should find out the difference between the Walker class and the Crossfield class for laughs. Lol

  • @chriscarr3916
    @chriscarr3916 7 місяців тому +2

    If one class of ship could be carried over to TOS from DSC it would be this. How about Pew Pew vs TOS Defiant

  • @TheStammzilla
    @TheStammzilla 7 місяців тому +1

    No way dude... The Constitution class refit shields alone can withstand V'Ger torpedoes.

  • @rabmelvin1701
    @rabmelvin1701 7 місяців тому +1

    Can you retry the battle but have the player ship cloaked to stay out of the fight abd have the computer vs computer to get a better Idea of power

  • @brianburke3460
    @brianburke3460 7 місяців тому +2

    Cool. How about solar class against the Dominion warship?

    • @MSR-1701
      @MSR-1701 7 місяців тому +1

      Solar Class? Which mod is that?

  • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
    @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 7 місяців тому +1

    With all respect, the Walker is not balanced correctly. The Connie II should be at least twice as powerful as the Walker Class. The Walker Class is two generations behind the Connie II, and a whole class lower as a Light Cruiser to the Connie II's Heavy Cruiser. The TOS Enterprise should be able to easily defeat the Walker to say nothing of the much more powerful Constitution Refit. Even a mid-century refit Walker should be rather easily vanquished by the Enterprise-A. The Connie Refit's Type VII Phasers are 50% more powerful than the old style Type VIs, and the Photons around the same.

  • @brettstowell4029
    @brettstowell4029 7 місяців тому +1

    Is it possible to set the AI targeting preferences for the opposing ship? I think some of these battles might get even closer if the opposing AI targets the shield generator as well.

  • @Timberjac
    @Timberjac 2 місяці тому

    The Enterprise A looked weird... half the time they should be able to shoot other Phaser banks, in addition to the one that was doing it.

  • @acebrandon3522
    @acebrandon3522 7 місяців тому +2

    Cool Beans.

  • @Ronald006
    @Ronald006 7 місяців тому +2

    While I have much respect for the walker class it's no match for the Constitution class remember the constitution class was the most advanced heavy cruiser Starfleet could produce and there were only 21 in the entire federation so the theory that the walker comes even close is laughable it was in fact already outdated by the standards of the time.

  • @sosministriesrev1412
    @sosministriesrev1412 7 місяців тому

    I do not think this represents Star Trek Canon. If we are to analyse accurately the power of the constitution refit or NCC 1701 A, remember it is a heavy cruiser, see Star Trek 3 search for Spock when the Enterprise entered Space Dock. The Miranda class is only a light cruiser, and the Enterprise in Star Trek 2 was subjected to a surprise attack by Khan. Therefore the phasers on the Enterprise were never displayed at full power. Never in the TMP era again, just an obversation

  • @Mirage_Mach5
    @Mirage_Mach5 7 місяців тому

    It might have been a better matchup against the Connie Refit Refit.

  • @msvaughan
    @msvaughan Місяць тому

    I think there is a Walker class ship is too powerful for this simulation. The Shenzhou was already an old ship at the start of Discovery.

  • @MAZE4
    @MAZE4 7 місяців тому +2

    Ships in Discovery are particularly ugly, don't know what the producers are thinking.

  • @astrogeek1230
    @astrogeek1230 Місяць тому

    What voodoo is this? How is that walker class winning?

  • @aaronatwood9298
    @aaronatwood9298 7 місяців тому

    Ok... Walker way too OP on hull rating and shields. 1701-A had aft torp, single fire.

  • @JenaveveErjmanovskiy
    @JenaveveErjmanovskiy 4 дні тому

    There is NO WAY the Walker Class ship should out do or perform the Enterprise A, who ever made the mod for the Walker class ship has made it way to overpowered and God like, and needs to LEARN game balance.

  • @brentcowell5776
    @brentcowell5776 7 місяців тому

    phoenix class vs nx class; phoenix class vs 1701 connie

    • @MSR-1701
      @MSR-1701 7 місяців тому

      Which ship/ mod is the Phoenix class?

  • @dazlovescarter
    @dazlovescarter 7 місяців тому

    The Enterprise in Discovery was far better than Kirk’s one

  • @XHunter442
    @XHunter442 7 місяців тому +2

    Captain my captain is the reason for victory!

  • @The_Corn_Show
    @The_Corn_Show 7 місяців тому +3

    Just shows how ridiculous Discovery is - nothing in that show makes sense.

  • @kindasupersonic7114
    @kindasupersonic7114 Місяць тому

    the walker class is over buffed. even with the refit, the Constitution 2/refit would out box the walker.

  • @AgeCobra
    @AgeCobra 7 місяців тому

    Boo Let go Connie A.

  • @gregoryboulet2061
    @gregoryboulet2061 7 місяців тому

    I'm not buying that the older Walker class can handle the Enterprise A with such ease. It was inferior to the TOS Enterprise. I can't believe the Walker's DShields are handling the refit's superior phasers & photons with no effect? Your simulation has to be flawed.

  • @tarn1135
    @tarn1135 7 місяців тому

    ST:D isn’t canon so it doesn’t matter. 😂

  • @chrismills2439
    @chrismills2439 Місяць тому

    godmode ships..... worst thing about secret hideout.bad robot star trek if you even want to call it that