Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
I have the Atomic line (drill and impact) and I feel that the power is adequate for the price. I’m not a contractor or anything but I build decks and fences and other small projects and it does what I need it to do
From what I have seen researching them is you save a few thousandths of an inch in size, but ya lose 10-15% in power. Still good enough for just about anything. They are for sure more powerful than my seven year old ni-cad battery impact and drill, and I use them just about every single day and never think 'if I just had a bit more power'.
I have some full 20V Dewalt and a few Atomics that I got in kits. The Atomics are definitely smaller then most make them seem. No, not as small as 12v but I think most people think 12 v tools are smaller then they actually are. I never had issues with power but I'm not doing anything to heavy duty with them.
I have an old 18v 1/2" chuck brushed drill and it is unstoppable. It will break my wrist if I'm not careful. I can't understand why a professional couldn't use it.
I got atomic a few weeks ago, my brother came over and said wow those are so small.. they have plenty of power, idk what you would need more power for, I use for hours a day out in the woodshop..
I received a brushed $99 DeWalt drill as a gift. I would've preferred a brushless one, but it was still a massive step up from the budget blue Ryobi I was using. Runs much smoother and drives screws much faster.
Just bought a DeWalt DCD 777 drill (20V brushless). Looking for a 20V impact driver. Your explanation was excellent so that will help me when I go to select the driver. I was not aware of the 60V battery and the fact that it can be used on the 20V system. So, thanks for the great explanation.
I have had the DeWalt 12V drill and screwdriver for the last 10 years. The screwdriver chuck is finally getting a little loose. I still have two of the original batteries and they work just fine. They are adequate for most of my usage, which is DIY, and they are very lightweight. I can carry them around all day long without strain especially overhead work around the house.
Great video! If it takes 17 minutes to explain a cordless power tool line, well, that's a problem. DeWalt confusion is what got me into the M12 Fuel line a few years ago and I never looked back.
You’ve got me all upset about my 40v mower/blower/trimmer set up again. I was never that impressed and when they canceled the 40v line I was so let down. I haven’t bought a Dewalt tool since, and I have a decent collection - 2 drills, an impact driver, cordless nailer, chainsaw, circ saw, and recip saw. Sorry Dewalt, I had to move on. Great Video Red!
For DeWalt the 20 Volt Max was to differentiate the slide style battery from the 18 Volt insert style battery. DeWalt was making the 18 Volt stick style tools for a decade before the introduction of the 20 Volt Max line. I switched to the 20V tools because of the slide style batteries; the handles are much slimmer on slide battery tools than stick style tools. I’m a contractor and have a lot of tools, mostly DeWalt 20V and 60V. I do like the battery converters that allow you to use almost any brand battery in any brand tool. I use the Flex Volt batteries in 20V tools all the time, in fact DeWalt actually makes tools now that take advantage of the extra power in the Flex Volt batteries; the Flex Volt batteries will allow the same ultimate watts out as the 20V battery while allowing each cell to have less amp draw typically meaning more longevity as well as the ability to up watts, if the tool protection circuitry allows it. I own the right angle drill and it’s a beast. The XR in the batteries refers to the batteries being upgraded from the original 1.5 Amp/Hr and 3 Amp/Hr batteries going to 2 Amp/Hr and 4 Amp/Hr respectively. DeWalt now has 5, 6, and 8 Amp/Hr 20V as well as the 2, 3, & 4 Amp/Hr @ 60V FlexVolt batteries. The XR today is kind of pointless as 1.5/3 Amp/Hr batteries are rare outside of the low price point tools. If you are going to go DeWalt don’t go with Atomic they just aren’t as good as the commercial grade tools, go with brushless tools and go with the 3 speed impact and 3 speed drill; the 3 speed tools are only made in a commercial quality.
I picked up the 8v MAX gyro straight on driver to replace the pos Ryobi driver I had that died after couple of weeks. One of the wires running from the motor separated from the terminal. The Dewalt is awesome, just got done using it for the first time at work. I ordered the pistol grip version from Amazon too, they currently have the kit with 2 batteries for $100.
Ryobi is another line that is starting to get into different battery flavors. They now have their "HP" line of batteries for cordless, The claim is the same as the Dewalt XR line of 33% more power for the brushless tools. But like a lot of other battery lines their prices have also become very expensive. As of late I have been considering testing some of the myriad of generic batteries offered on other websites.
I honestly love ryobi... I've always had them (for home and hobby stuff) and they have always gotten my jobs done... but now that I'm looking at getting my AC certification and getting back on a job site, I'm looking for something that can handle all day, hard use.. I wouldn't ask my ryobi to do that lol.. they are great for the price tho thats not a lie
Thank you very much for the breakdown of DeWalt's system. I've often wondered what the difference between the Atomic and XR line was. Thank you for all you do Red.
I have the XR 20 volt brushless 1/2" drill/ driver with the 2AH batteries. Planning on picking up one if the 20 volt powerstack batteries soon to see if they're as good as everyone says they are.
Hey "vcg construction" found out you shouldn't put a 6amh battery or bigger on the dcf887 (impact driver). That's how they start to smoke. "Ave" took one apart & notice the hammer assembly seized up causing the tool to power down. Only some tools can handle the larger batteries, mostly the tools that came out "after" the flexvolt line.
@@dstblj5222 agreed, thankfully most of the new tools & batteries are designed to work better together. The dcd996 & dcf899 are freaking beasts with a 6amp.
Thanks Jeff.... I am not into the 20 volt DeWalt stuff ... But appreciate and like listening to your videos.. Still waiting for the bigger Hercules job site table saw
@The Den of Tools. Thanks Red for the explanations of Dewalt's cordless tool line ups. Yes, Dewalt does innovate like Milwaukee and many times gets there first. Makes me always think when other tool companies don't have a certain feature a (jobsite radio that can charge batteries) because Dewalt or some other company holds the patent. Yes, Dewalt for the longest time held the patent for a jobsite radio that can charge batteries. Dewalt sued Bosch and Milwaukee years ago because of it. It's only been about 3-4 years ago that Dewalt's patent expired. And I agree that the number of 18V chargers Dewalt makes and sells is INSANE. Hope you, Jeff, Blue, and your families stay safe and well. Shine on!
I was wondering, I have a bosch radio laying around here somewhere, used once on a job site. WTF it doesn't charge? Went to cheap Bluetooth speakers...
When you say “the tool senses the battery”, is it just different contacts on the battery for 60v vs 30v or some smart circuit? I’d prefer different contacts so less to go wrong
Hello, You said to make sure that you get a good charger when you buy the better batteries.. How do you know if the charger you get with batteries or kit is one of the good/better chargers? In order words how do you tell one charger from another? Thank You Hope to hear from ya
I know Project Farm did some videos on using flexvolt batteries or other high capacity batteries. Basically a drill or impact really doesn't need much more than like 4-6 ah batteries or it will actually go too fast and deliver too much power for some tasks but it won't burn the tool itself out.
My wife got me the 6 tool pack over Christmas which included their 20 V Flex 7 1/4 Skill Saw. This is my first battery skill saw and it is fantastic. Easy to use and powerful enough to rip for a good long while on the batteries they provided in the kit which were the 2 ah and not the 5 ah. I was wondering if it is worth the money to buy a few of the 5 ah since the 2 ah are working fine for breaking down plywood and making cuts on 4x4s, 2x4s on the job. Most of the time one 20 Volt 2 ah works for the entire day.
Wait for a sale on a battery tool combo. Never buy batteries alone. A few times a year they’ll throw out a sale at the depot like 2 5ah batteries and a charger for $200... get a free tool of your choice like a router that normally goes for 200 alone.
Thank you for the informative video. I am currently researching what line-up to go with as I am a DIYer, and Milwaukee seems way too expensive for what I need. I am thinking DeWalt, RIDGID, or Ryobi, but I am not 100% sure yet.
I'm a DeWalt fan. I have the compound miter saw, a contractor table saw, drill, impact driver, grinder, jig saw, circular saw and pneumatic brad nailer. They have served me well for the handyman type construction I've done. My problem, as a DeWalt fan, is that the tools keep losing to Milwaukee in the head to head comparisons that I've seen. I'm looking for some DeWalt wins, maybe somebody could link to them. As an aside, I suspect for my application the DeWalt tools were a better choice for me given the price, plus I like the color scheme better. Solid red is boring.
I've had DeWalt for 25 years and have over 25 individual cordless tools, I'm not switching to another brand. I watch those comparison tests and they usually consist of some crazy over the top torture test. If a DeWalt tool is used as it is intended to be, it has no problem completing the task. If you do want to see a DeWalt win over Milwaukee check out the new DCF921 compact impact kicking the crap out of Milwaukee's compact guns.
i forgot the name of the channel but there is a guy that does tool comparisons and the dewault recriprocating saw beat every other brand including Milwaukee..dewault generally makes the best saws on the market, especially their corded chop saws and miter saws etc..
The 12v XTREME line is a joke from a marketing standpoint, but have been good products for general use. When they were running sales with a tool, two batteries, and a charger for $100, I picked up the drill driver, and was impressed enough with it to grab a few more from that line. Power and run time obviously aren't selling points for them, but the size and weight, as well as overall convenience, makes them the go-to for the majority of small jobs.
Good guide on the battery range. I had a collection of old crappy cordless tools so for the last month started getting new-secondhand dewalt tools (lots of brand new stuff sells on the secondhand market). I found it very confusing understanding the different batteries and the 20V thing. Your video has made it a lot clearer.
I've got that 120V cordless miter saw in my shop and it's fantastic. One thing to note - it's a BIG saw. The rails and dust port stick way off the back. But it will cut for hours.
I bought into the Dewalt 20V MAX early (and loved it) and have been often confused by their various levels. Thanks for the vid. BTW, I recently bought the Atomic drill/driver combo and have really liked it. I have a full-sized XR drill, but I've been shocked at how often I go for the Atomic. Much better than I ever expected it to be,
I have 3 Atomic impact drivers, 1 Atomic one handed reciprocating saw, and 1 Atomic 4 1/2 inch circular saw and a Atomic drill/driver They get used a lot during the course of my day, and I have absolutely no complaints about power or battery life.
Short of a drill or a driver you would be best sticking with the OL 120v AC. Being a DIY'er there's nothing more aggravating than having a serviceable tool and batteries that last only part way into your job. Bought a 120v Sawzall years ago and it still works every time I pull it out of the case, with no extra cost. Were my battery power drills needed to have the batteries replaced at regular intervals. Fortunately they are still available for my current 18v Milwaukee, were my previous battery powered drills (Makita and Black & Decker) fell into obsolescence. It's hard to imagine the level of steam that I would let off if my table saw required regular battery replacement or became obsolete due to unavailable batteries. Good channel keep up the battle.
I have a Dewalt 18V drill that I bought back in 98 or 99. Last time I went to buy new batteries I found a deal with a new drill and the impact driver with 2 batteries and charger for less than a set of batteries only. I've been wondering what I am going to have to do when it's time to replace the batteries because I haven't seen any 18v lately. Wondering if the 20V would work to replace them when the time comes.
They sell adapters, both from Dewalt and after market to use the 20 volt batteries in 18v tools. You can also buy 18 volt aftermarket batteries to use in your old Dewalt tools. I bought a 2 pack on Amazon 2 years ago for under $60 and they continue to work great.
if you are stuck with old system like the 40 V, you can sometimes buy new batteries from 3rd party vendors. I did this with a really old Milwaukee line battery.
Bear, There was also Dewalt's original 18 volt line of brushed tools with a totally different battery socket. They have / had a battery adapter so you could use the 20 volt batteries on the older tools - probably because they discontinued the 18 volt batteries. What's apparent from your video is Dewalt jumps around a lot on battery capacities and the customer gets stuck if they buy into an orphaned line. I have mostly Dewalt tools but I'm thinking maybe I should have gone Milwaukee since they seem like they stick with their batteries better although I've had a fair amount of failures with their 12 volt batteries.
Dewalt had a promotion before Christmas of a tool kit for $499 that was mostly XR tools with two batteries and a V1 box. I've got way too many Makita tools to get anything else, but my dad was still using an old HF nicad tool set he'd had for 15 years, so I ordered this Dewalt kit for him. He loves it. I was pretty nervous at the time, as da Bear hadn't made this video yet, but it worked out okay.
Hi, great video. What is the difference between the Dewalt XR Hammer Drill and a regular Drill? Looking to buy an Impact Driver/Drill XR set. So many different options and pricing seem to be all over the place, depending on where you look.
It seems like you missed a good opportunity to talk about combo packs. i.e. dewalt's practice mixing of different grades of tools and promoting it as the highest grade of tool in the combo.
Dude, I have a 7 year old Dewalt drill with a different type battery. It has a thing that inserts into the handle. Do they still make batteries like this? Thanks!
Thanks! Great summary of DeWALT cordless tools. I definitely recommend this anyone who is looking to buy DeWALT tools who is not intimately familiar with DeWALT. NOW PLEASE EXPLAIN DEWALT NOMENCLATURE!!! (Probably not feasible beyond the basics)
I'd like to see an adapter to allow the 20V tools to plug into the wall. I tend to use my tools in my wood shop, and there are times when I don't really need the mobility of a battery, but could use the wall adapter and save the battery life.
There's somebody that makes a aftermarket one. I wish dewalt would make them also though since they have the 20v cordless 7 1/4 miter saw but it's only battery powered
We had three tools go down possibly from flexvolt, they had some use on them already, 2 reciprocating saws and a circular saw. Think it might be the old brushed tools you can stall and still have power go to them cooking thema little bit each time. The newer stuff has the anti-wrist braking tech so as if the tool snatches on something and boughs down it kills the power and saves the tool............... and your wrist
Great video! Can these dewalt batteries be used interchangeably between the power tools and outdoor tools? So many dewalt models I don’t even know which one is current anymore. Any videos on these for beginners like myself ?
As a master auto tech I needed something compact and not milwaukee , recently got a handful of DeWalt 12v brushless and very happy so far , I do wish they would expand the line to include an angle die grinder a rachet , i have several aftermarket batteries from Amazon that work very well
First, love the user name. I want an RFB in the worst way. As to the DW 12V, please keep me updated on how those work out for you. The first DW 12V line was very sub par and they have not really worked very hard to build up that line. I'm excited for these new tools, I just hope they don't just drop these and then never expand the line like they did last time.
@@dstblj5222 dewalt makes the Mac power tools and even though I'm a Milwaukee person myself those dealt auto tools do a good job I've thought about buying some for my home auto projects but at work I rely on my Milwaukee stuff I mean I've used the mid torque to pull lugs of heavy diesel tires and the stubby has pulled several crank bolts for me (when the mid torque is taking a break) just constantly delivers for me when I need them to. But I have nothing against DeWalt I think they're good tools just not my favorite
Contractor, I dug in to worx line for battery outdoor equipment, chainsaw never fails, always in my truck to clear fallen limbs trees. Blower and sting trimmer great for clean outs indoor and sidewalk. I personally stick with bosch for all construction tools. No complains on any.
Unless there is a failure mode for the flex volt batteries that let's them get stuck in the 60v mode the batteries should have no issues with their parallel to series switching function.
I find it odd that the 36V stuff is not that old and yet discontinued with battery availability low when 18v xrp has been gone forever yet home depot still sells the batteries and chargers regularly, I'm still on the xrp system but when they won't hold a charge any more I'm gonna get the 20v max conversion and charger, the tools while beat up still work great my most used 1/4" impact is like 20 years old, I rarely use the new one that came with the set I bought about 10 years ago cuz this one just won't quit!! 😁
That Gyroscopic screwdriver is a little beast, pick it up for around 79-99 depending on sales at Lowes. Use it every single day building all the outdoor products at Lowes and home depot.
I am in the yellow black. My only complaint is the chuck on the drills. My 20V won’t stay tight no matter what I do. I mainly use my old 18V with 20V adapter, but the chuck is only marginally better. I would buy one of the higher end Dewalt drills if I knew the chuck was better. May have to switch to all red. The M12s I have been very happy with.
There is an adapter to run 20 volt lithium in the old 18 volt NiCad tools. Last time I looked at them, you could buy either the adapter on it's own for around $60 or the adapter and 2 batteries as a kit for around $120.
they make an adapter to use dewalt batteries on milwaukee or any other brand of tools. Which is great. If I see a milwaukee hammer drill on sale cheaper than dewalt, I will grab it
IN UK the Flex volt is 54v I’m On a Face book private Dewalt group. Every day some fitter is asking about 54v batteries ? Problems.... not charging .... die fast , flashing fault lights. Other issues also , their not reliable and failure rate is high
I would have to disagree with you on the part about the atomic line, I think that they have good power,I also own XR and the extreme line.Which I am excited for more tools to come out in, But I appreciate your content and I really enjoy your channel.
Loved the video! Great walkthrough the Dewalt line up. I upgraded to the atomic from the brushed drill just recently. Atomic has worked great and the form factor is amazing. The brushed drill and impact driver worked just fine for 4 years but happy to have the atomic drill/impact.
Thanks for the Video..... I don't know if you will see this, but I could use your Knowledge.... I have a Dewalt DW991 Drill....The Batteries no longer hold a charge, and new ones "Dewalt" are pricey. Is there any other option for a better Battery besides some no name off Amazon. I hate to buy a new drill, as little as I have to use it. Thank In Advance... Regards....
Tbh 12v lines slide pack batteries don't make sense to me. The are very close in size with the regular 18v or like the atomic size. Where 12v tools shine are with like pod style packs like Bosch and Milwaukee. They are very very compact with great power.
I just got my son started on cordless tools a year or so ago by buying him a Dewalt starter set. Now it has turned out to be so confounded confusing I wish I had just gone with Makita. My cordless tools are all Makita and there is no confusion whatsoever. They all work great too - have for years and years without all the silly little advertising "tricks", compatibility issues and other crap that seems to define Dewalt these days. You never know if you are buying a compatible battery or tool and it just sucks.
I don’t know. I’ve been using DeWalt for a long time. Their batteries have been very good. They’re considered to be up at the top. I’ve never had a problem with them. HF uses much cheaper cells inside, which is why they cost so much less. The Atomic has gotten pretty good reviews from the Concord Carpenter, which has the best, by far, reviews. Really, the only true pro reviews. The Flexvolt batteries work just fine on my 20v tools.
I was thinking about those stationary tools and what it would do with the newer pouch batteries particularly the PowerStack when the finally come out with the higher amp hour PowerStack batteries. Note a 5 amp hour PowerStack has the same size case as a standard 2 or 3 amp hour non-compact cylinder battery, so 5 maybe 10 years you 40 amp hour PowerStack, just think of what you could do with that kind of battery. Not to mention most of these tools are probably going to be Bluetooth controlled, sounds pretty nice.
So I have both the cheap craftsman drill and the cheap DeWalt drill and I can say that the DeWalt has more power and seams to be built stronger. It is worth it for a homeowner but will not cut it in a professional manner
Ive never had an issue using 60 volt batteries with my 20 volt tools. However, my brother did with his. I have no clue why, it seems to be a random issue with their stuff.
The problem with the Atomic 809 is the marketing. It was marketed as Contractor grade when it should have been DIY. If you have an Atomic swap out the collet for a 3/8 hog ring, way better use of that tool.
@@skliros9235 No they arent. Kobalt is the Lowes mid-grade prosumer line to go against Ryobi, Rigid and the like. While Lowes Flex will take on the big boys. Kobalt isnt going anywhere.
The battery powered table saw works all day on a single project for me off one battery. The miter saw tends to kick breakers for gen 1 when plugged in. I run it off batteries 100% of the time now. The tripod work lights are, by far, one of the coolest dewalt products. Just stick with battery flex volt batteries.
Not sure how true it is but I heard that the reason dewalt and some others went to 20v or higher was because milwaukee trademarked or something the 18v moniker, probably to get some extra money
i know its falls advertisement 20V but in a way they didn't had a choice here(USA) because of Milwaukee since they apparently patented the 18V and dewalt would have to be arguing with them and paying them for 18v so they went with 20v.....if you want dig around and make a video about that so ppl know why they calling it 20v and not 18v.. that's what i heard....BTW great video, as always keep up the good work ...
Thank you this is why I did not buy into the dewalt line too many models too much confusion This is why I went with Milwaukee simple lineup top tier tool
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
I have the Atomic line (drill and impact) and I feel that the power is adequate for the price. I’m not a contractor or anything but I build decks and fences and other small projects and it does what I need it to do
From what I have seen researching them is you save a few thousandths of an inch in size, but ya lose 10-15% in power. Still good enough for just about anything. They are for sure more powerful than my seven year old ni-cad battery impact and drill, and I use them just about every single day and never think 'if I just had a bit more power'.
I have some full 20V Dewalt and a few Atomics that I got in kits. The Atomics are definitely smaller then most make them seem. No, not as small as 12v but I think most people think 12 v tools are smaller then they actually are. I never had issues with power but I'm not doing anything to heavy duty with them.
I have an old 18v 1/2" chuck brushed drill and it is unstoppable. It will break my wrist if I'm not careful. I can't understand why a professional couldn't use it.
@@dangrimes5078 They could its just when its in your hand all day you want something nicer
I got atomic a few weeks ago, my brother came over and said wow those are so small.. they have plenty of power, idk what you would need more power for, I use for hours a day out in the woodshop..
I received a brushed $99 DeWalt drill as a gift. I would've preferred a brushless one, but it was still a massive step up from the budget blue Ryobi I was using. Runs much smoother and drives screws much faster.
Just bought a DeWalt DCD 777 drill (20V brushless). Looking for a 20V impact driver. Your explanation was excellent so that will help me when I go to select the driver. I was not aware of the 60V battery and the fact that it can be used on the 20V system. So, thanks for the great explanation.
I have had the DeWalt 12V drill and screwdriver for the last 10 years. The screwdriver chuck is finally getting a little loose. I still have two of the original batteries and they work just fine. They are adequate for most of my usage, which is DIY, and they are very lightweight. I can carry them around all day long without strain especially overhead work around the house.
Great video! If it takes 17 minutes to explain a cordless power tool line, well, that's a problem. DeWalt confusion is what got me into the M12 Fuel line a few years ago and I never looked back.
Agreement here but Milwaukee is also as bad when it comes to naming
You’ve got me all upset about my 40v mower/blower/trimmer set up again. I was never that impressed and when they canceled the 40v line I was so let down. I haven’t bought a Dewalt tool since, and I have a decent collection - 2 drills, an impact driver, cordless nailer, chainsaw, circ saw, and recip saw. Sorry Dewalt, I had to move on.
Great Video Red!
Dont blame you ,the touch and feel aspect of Dewalt is rather entry level .
For DeWalt the 20 Volt Max was to differentiate the slide style battery from the 18 Volt insert style battery. DeWalt was making the 18 Volt stick style tools for a decade before the introduction of the 20 Volt Max line. I switched to the 20V tools because of the slide style batteries; the handles are much slimmer on slide battery tools than stick style tools. I’m a contractor and have a lot of tools, mostly DeWalt 20V and 60V. I do like the battery converters that allow you to use almost any brand battery in any brand tool. I use the Flex Volt batteries in 20V tools all the time, in fact DeWalt actually makes tools now that take advantage of the extra power in the Flex Volt batteries; the Flex Volt batteries will allow the same ultimate watts out as the 20V battery while allowing each cell to have less amp draw typically meaning more longevity as well as the ability to up watts, if the tool protection circuitry allows it. I own the right angle drill and it’s a beast. The XR in the batteries refers to the batteries being upgraded from the original 1.5 Amp/Hr and 3 Amp/Hr batteries going to 2 Amp/Hr and 4 Amp/Hr respectively. DeWalt now has 5, 6, and 8 Amp/Hr 20V as well as the 2, 3, & 4 Amp/Hr @ 60V FlexVolt batteries. The XR today is kind of pointless as 1.5/3 Amp/Hr batteries are rare outside of the low price point tools.
If you are going to go DeWalt don’t go with Atomic they just aren’t as good as the commercial grade tools, go with brushless tools and go with the 3 speed impact and 3 speed drill; the 3 speed tools are only made in a commercial quality.
There is a Flexvolt 8 1/4” table saw.
I picked up the 8v MAX gyro straight on driver to replace the pos Ryobi driver I had that died after couple of weeks. One of the wires running from the motor separated from the terminal. The Dewalt is awesome, just got done using it for the first time at work. I ordered the pistol grip version from Amazon too, they currently have the kit with 2 batteries for $100.
10:15 I've burped up 2 drills of those cheap drills, 1 was a 20 v and 1 was a old 18 V..
thnks for the explainer Bear dude - was totally confused about the lineup till now.
Ryobi is another line that is starting to get into different battery flavors. They now have their "HP" line of batteries for cordless, The claim is the same as the Dewalt XR line of 33% more power for the brushless tools. But like a lot of other battery lines their prices have also become very expensive. As of late I have been considering testing some of the myriad of generic batteries offered on other websites.
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I honestly love ryobi... I've always had them (for home and hobby stuff) and they have always gotten my jobs done... but now that I'm looking at getting my AC certification and getting back on a job site, I'm looking for something that can handle all day, hard use.. I wouldn't ask my ryobi to do that lol.. they are great for the price tho thats not a lie
Thank you very much for the breakdown of DeWalt's system. I've often wondered what the difference between the Atomic and XR line was. Thank you for all you do Red.
I have the XR 20 volt brushless 1/2" drill/ driver with the 2AH batteries. Planning on picking up one if the 20 volt powerstack batteries soon to see if they're as good as everyone says they are.
Hey "vcg construction" found out you shouldn't put a 6amh battery or bigger on the dcf887 (impact driver). That's how they start to smoke. "Ave" took one apart & notice the hammer assembly seized up causing the tool to power down. Only some tools can handle the larger batteries, mostly the tools that came out "after" the flexvolt line.
That would be a bad battery and they really should warranty that tool and stop using it in testing
@@dstblj5222 agreed, thankfully most of the new tools & batteries are designed to work better together. The dcd996 & dcf899 are freaking beasts with a 6amp.
I used to watch them, but they’re clowns, and I’ve stopped. If you want great reviews, go to The Concord Carpenter.
@@melgross "workshop addict" is another good one.
Thanks Jeff.... I am not into the 20 volt DeWalt stuff ... But appreciate and like listening to your videos.. Still waiting for the bigger Hercules job site table saw
@The Den of Tools. Thanks Red for the explanations of Dewalt's cordless tool line ups. Yes, Dewalt does innovate like Milwaukee and many times gets there first. Makes me always think when other tool companies don't have a certain feature a (jobsite radio that can charge batteries) because Dewalt or some other company holds the patent. Yes, Dewalt for the longest time held the patent for a jobsite radio that can charge batteries. Dewalt sued Bosch and Milwaukee years ago because of it. It's only been about 3-4 years ago that Dewalt's patent expired. And I agree that the number of 18V chargers Dewalt makes and sells is INSANE.
Hope you, Jeff, Blue, and your families stay safe and well.
Shine on!
I was wondering, I have a bosch radio laying around here somewhere, used once on a job site. WTF it doesn't charge? Went to cheap Bluetooth speakers...
great explanation of the dewalt line up. The biggest problem with battery tools is the battery. Shine on Bear.
When you say “the tool senses the battery”, is it just different contacts on the battery for 60v vs 30v or some smart circuit? I’d prefer different contacts so less to go wrong
Could you do one for Makita as well? I’m a little confused by their lines with like lxt and bl and all of that
I’m sure years ago Makita sold a Greeny blue tool and their typical green power tool.
Blue ones must be diy
LXT is their 18v line, xgt is their 40v line, bl is brushless, avt is antivibration tech in a nutshell
Hello,
You said to make sure that you get a good charger when you buy the better batteries..
How do you know if the charger you get with batteries or kit is one of the good/better chargers?
In order words how do you tell one charger from another?
Thank You
Hope to hear from ya
Ive had many questions and this clarified it for me thank you.
I know Project Farm did some videos on using flexvolt batteries or other high capacity batteries. Basically a drill or impact really doesn't need much more than like 4-6 ah batteries or it will actually go too fast and deliver too much power for some tasks but it won't burn the tool itself out.
Is there a CORDED POWER SUPPLY ADAPTOR for the flexVolt tools to turn them into corded tools
As an electrician which drill is better? As I will be using different bits and drilling lots of holes with the saw bits
My wife got me the 6 tool pack over Christmas which included their 20 V Flex 7 1/4 Skill Saw. This is my first battery skill saw and it is fantastic. Easy to use and powerful enough to rip for a good long while on the batteries they provided in the kit which were the 2 ah and not the 5 ah. I was wondering if it is worth the money to buy a few of the 5 ah since the 2 ah are working fine for breaking down plywood and making cuts on 4x4s, 2x4s on the job. Most of the time one 20 Volt 2 ah works for the entire day.
Wait for a sale on a battery tool combo. Never buy batteries alone. A few times a year they’ll throw out a sale at the depot like 2 5ah batteries and a charger for $200... get a free tool of your choice like a router that normally goes for 200 alone.
Amazon my friend i wouldnt buy the knock off ones on there but pretty decent deals on tools and batteries
Thank you for the informative video. I am currently researching what line-up to go with as I am a DIYer, and Milwaukee seems way too expensive for what I need. I am thinking DeWalt, RIDGID, or Ryobi, but I am not 100% sure yet.
I sure love my hart tools
I'm a DeWalt fan. I have the compound miter saw, a contractor table saw, drill, impact driver, grinder, jig saw, circular saw and pneumatic brad nailer. They have served me well for the handyman type construction I've done. My problem, as a DeWalt fan, is that the tools keep losing to Milwaukee in the head to head comparisons that I've seen. I'm looking for some DeWalt wins, maybe somebody could link to them. As an aside, I suspect for my application the DeWalt tools were a better choice for me given the price, plus I like the color scheme better. Solid red is boring.
I've had DeWalt for 25 years and have over 25 individual cordless tools, I'm not switching to another brand. I watch those comparison tests and they usually consist of some crazy over the top torture test. If a DeWalt tool is used as it is intended to be, it has no problem completing the task. If you do want to see a DeWalt win over Milwaukee check out the new DCF921 compact impact kicking the crap out of Milwaukee's compact guns.
@@darinvee4980 Thanks for the link and the response. My experience with DeWalt is similar.
i forgot the name of the channel but there is a guy that does tool comparisons and the dewault recriprocating saw beat every other brand including Milwaukee..dewault generally makes the best saws on the market, especially their corded chop saws and miter saws etc..
The 12v XTREME line is a joke from a marketing standpoint, but have been good products for general use. When they were running sales with a tool, two batteries, and a charger for $100, I picked up the drill driver, and was impressed enough with it to grab a few more from that line. Power and run time obviously aren't selling points for them, but the size and weight, as well as overall convenience, makes them the go-to for the majority of small jobs.
Good guide on the battery range. I had a collection of old crappy cordless tools so for the last month started getting new-secondhand dewalt tools (lots of brand new stuff sells on the secondhand market). I found it very confusing understanding the different batteries and the 20V thing. Your video has made it a lot clearer.
I've got that 120V cordless miter saw in my shop and it's fantastic. One thing to note - it's a BIG saw. The rails and dust port stick way off the back. But it will cut for hours.
I bought into the Dewalt 20V MAX early (and loved it) and have been often confused by their various levels. Thanks for the vid. BTW, I recently bought the Atomic drill/driver combo and have really liked it. I have a full-sized XR drill, but I've been shocked at how often I go for the Atomic. Much better than I ever expected it to be,
I have 3 Atomic impact drivers, 1 Atomic one handed reciprocating saw, and 1 Atomic 4 1/2 inch circular saw and a Atomic drill/driver
They get used a lot during the course of my day, and I have absolutely no complaints about power or battery life.
Short of a drill or a driver you would be best sticking with the OL 120v AC. Being a DIY'er there's nothing more aggravating than having a serviceable tool and batteries that last only part way into your job. Bought a 120v Sawzall years ago and it still works every time I pull it out of the case, with no extra cost. Were my battery power drills needed to have the batteries replaced at regular intervals. Fortunately they are still available for my current 18v Milwaukee, were my previous battery powered drills (Makita and Black & Decker) fell into obsolescence. It's hard to imagine the level of steam that I would let off if my table saw required regular battery replacement or became obsolete due to unavailable batteries.
Good channel keep up the battle.
What about the 20v compact line of batteries? I have a 4ah one of those. Do they perform at the regular max line?
Very informative. I am planning to convert to all DeWalt power tools
Hope you do this for all the brands!
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Yes
I have a Dewalt 18V drill that I bought back in 98 or 99. Last time I went to buy new batteries I found a deal with a new drill and the impact driver with 2 batteries and charger for less than a set of batteries only. I've been wondering what I am going to have to do when it's time to replace the batteries because I haven't seen any 18v lately. Wondering if the 20V would work to replace them when the time comes.
They sell adapters, both from Dewalt and after market to use the 20 volt batteries in 18v tools. You can also buy 18 volt aftermarket batteries to use in your old Dewalt tools. I bought a 2 pack on Amazon 2 years ago for under $60 and they continue to work great.
if you are stuck with old system like the 40 V, you can sometimes buy new batteries from 3rd party vendors. I did this with a really old Milwaukee line battery.
Bear, There was also Dewalt's original 18 volt line of brushed tools with a totally different battery socket. They have / had a battery adapter so you could use the 20 volt batteries on the older tools - probably because they discontinued the 18 volt batteries. What's apparent from your video is Dewalt jumps around a lot on battery capacities and the customer gets stuck if they buy into an orphaned line. I have mostly Dewalt tools but I'm thinking maybe I should have gone Milwaukee since they seem like they stick with their batteries better although I've had a fair amount of failures with their 12 volt batteries.
Exactly why i no longer buy DeWalt
@@joetrippi1603 Eh they made one move from 18-20 volt and they still support the 18v line
What other battery platforms have they used besides the 18 volt and the current 20 volts?
@@lethargicmotorsport2025 I think it is mentioned in the video that they had a 30 volt battery used in lawnmowers that they are no longer supporting.
@@scottyV1000 I had forgotten about the 30 or maybe 36 volt batteries. We had saws in Afghanistan with them , best I remember they were junk
Dewalt had a promotion before Christmas of a tool kit for $499 that was mostly XR tools with two batteries and a V1 box. I've got way too many Makita tools to get anything else, but my dad was still using an old HF nicad tool set he'd had for 15 years, so I ordered this Dewalt kit for him. He loves it. I was pretty nervous at the time, as da Bear hadn't made this video yet, but it worked out okay.
Hi, great video. What is the difference between the Dewalt XR Hammer Drill and a regular Drill? Looking to buy an Impact Driver/Drill XR set. So many different options and pricing seem to be all over the place, depending on where you look.
Did you make a “the good the bad the ugly” for Dewalt? I’ve been searching but haven’t found it.
It seems like you missed a good opportunity to talk about combo packs. i.e. dewalt's practice mixing of different grades of tools and promoting it as the highest grade of tool in the combo.
You've definitely got a point there.. buyer beware.
Dude, I have a 7 year old Dewalt drill with a different type battery. It has a thing that inserts into the handle. Do they still make batteries like this? Thanks!
Yes they do, third party though. Check Amazon.
@@denoftools Thanks “Den” I appreciate it. Love the videos!
Isn't the 12V Max chargers compatible with the 20V?
Thanks! Great summary of DeWALT cordless tools. I definitely recommend this anyone who is looking to buy DeWALT tools who is not intimately familiar with DeWALT. NOW PLEASE EXPLAIN DEWALT NOMENCLATURE!!! (Probably not feasible beyond the basics)
I'd like to see an adapter to allow the 20V tools to plug into the wall. I tend to use my tools in my wood shop, and there are times when I don't really need the mobility of a battery, but could use the wall adapter and save the battery life.
There's somebody that makes a aftermarket one. I wish dewalt would make them also though since they have the 20v cordless 7 1/4 miter saw but it's only battery powered
We had three tools go down possibly from flexvolt, they had some use on them already, 2 reciprocating saws and a circular saw. Think it might be the old brushed tools you can stall and still have power go to them cooking thema little bit each time. The newer stuff has the anti-wrist braking tech so as if the tool snatches on something and boughs down it kills the power and saves the tool............... and your wrist
Great video! Can these dewalt batteries be used interchangeably between the power tools and outdoor tools? So many dewalt models I don’t even know which one is current anymore. Any videos on these for beginners like myself ?
As a master auto tech I needed something compact and not milwaukee , recently got a handful of DeWalt 12v brushless and very happy so far , I do wish they would expand the line to include an angle die grinder a rachet , i have several aftermarket batteries from Amazon that work very well
First, love the user name. I want an RFB in the worst way. As to the DW 12V, please keep me updated on how those work out for you. The first DW 12V line was very sub par and they have not really worked very hard to build up that line. I'm excited for these new tools, I just hope they don't just drop these and then never expand the line like they did last time.
i believe you can use the mac 12v ratchet if you want its compatible like the 20V stuff
@@dstblj5222 dewalt makes the Mac power tools and even though I'm a Milwaukee person myself those dealt auto tools do a good job I've thought about buying some for my home auto projects but at work I rely on my Milwaukee stuff I mean I've used the mid torque to pull lugs of heavy diesel tires and the stubby has pulled several crank bolts for me (when the mid torque is taking a break) just constantly delivers for me when I need them to. But I have nothing against DeWalt I think they're good tools just not my favorite
What are your thoughts on the out door equipment like trimmers and chainsaws from a dewalt or Ryobi vs a company like ego?
Contractor, I dug in to worx line for battery outdoor equipment, chainsaw never fails, always in my truck to clear fallen limbs trees. Blower and sting trimmer great for clean outs indoor and sidewalk. I personally stick with bosch for all construction tools. No complains on any.
Unless there is a failure mode for the flex volt batteries that let's them get stuck in the 60v mode the batteries should have no issues with their parallel to series switching function.
I find it odd that the 36V stuff is not that old and yet discontinued with battery availability low when 18v xrp has been gone forever yet home depot still sells the batteries and chargers regularly, I'm still on the xrp system but when they won't hold a charge any more I'm gonna get the 20v max conversion and charger, the tools while beat up still work great my most used 1/4" impact is like 20 years old, I rarely use the new one that came with the set I bought about 10 years ago cuz this one just won't quit!! 😁
Bear: I'm reviewing my FAVORITE tool line :)
That Gyroscopic screwdriver is a little beast, pick it up for around 79-99 depending on sales at Lowes. Use it every single day building all the outdoor products at Lowes and home depot.
I am in the yellow black. My only complaint is the chuck on the drills. My 20V won’t stay tight no matter what I do. I mainly use my old 18V with 20V adapter, but the chuck is only marginally better. I would buy one of the higher end Dewalt drills if I knew the chuck was better. May have to switch to all red. The M12s I have been very happy with.
Great breakdown, I got dewalt cuz I find it on sale on Amazon every so often.
Junk
One thing you did not talk about the do make an adapter for the 20 volt to work on the older 18 volt
There is an adapter to run 20 volt lithium in the old 18 volt NiCad tools. Last time I looked at them, you could buy either the adapter on it's own for around $60 or the adapter and 2 batteries as a kit for around $120.
they make an adapter to use dewalt batteries on milwaukee or any other brand of tools. Which is great. If I see a milwaukee hammer drill on sale cheaper than dewalt, I will grab it
Can we get an agent deep freight mug
IN UK the Flex volt is
54v
I’m On a Face book private Dewalt group.
Every day some fitter is asking about 54v batteries ? Problems.... not charging .... die fast , flashing fault lights. Other issues also , their not reliable and failure rate is high
Is there a place to purchase remanufactured Dewalt tools for less money? Dealt has gotten pretty expensive recently. Thanks!
CPO Dewalt. Then pick refurbished on the site. Ya get what’s available.
I would have to disagree with you on the part about the atomic line, I think that they have good power,I also own XR and the extreme line.Which I am excited for more tools to come out in, But I appreciate your content and I really enjoy your channel.
Excellent! Thanks for the explanation
Loved the video! Great walkthrough the Dewalt line up. I upgraded to the atomic from the brushed drill just recently. Atomic has worked great and the form factor is amazing. The brushed drill and impact driver worked just fine for 4 years but happy to have the atomic drill/impact.
Thanks for the Video..... I don't know if you will see this, but I could use your Knowledge.... I have a Dewalt DW991 Drill....The Batteries no longer hold a charge, and new ones "Dewalt" are pricey. Is there any other option for a better Battery besides some no name off Amazon. I hate to buy a new drill, as little as I have to use it. Thank In Advance... Regards....
Thank you Red for clearing that up!
Tbh 12v lines slide pack batteries don't make sense to me. The are very close in size with the regular 18v or like the atomic size. Where 12v tools shine are with like pod style packs like Bosch and Milwaukee. They are very very compact with great power.
I just got my son started on cordless tools a year or so ago by buying him a Dewalt starter set. Now it has turned out to be so confounded confusing I wish I had just gone with Makita. My cordless tools are all Makita and there is no confusion whatsoever. They all work great too - have for years and years without all the silly little advertising "tricks", compatibility issues and other crap that seems to define Dewalt these days. You never know if you are buying a compatible battery or tool and it just sucks.
flexvolt batteries over here in the uk are 54 volts, and yeah, all our other tools say 18 volt on them
You have a knack to explain things simply without patronizing!
Dewalt 20v batteries compatible with 12v max tools?
So many flavors to get gouged on batteries!
Yeah, as a DeWalt fanboy this is embarrassing.
Still not as bad as Milwaukee though
I don’t know. I’ve been using DeWalt for a long time. Their batteries have been very good. They’re considered to be up at the top. I’ve never had a problem with them. HF uses much cheaper cells inside, which is why they cost so much less. The Atomic has gotten pretty good reviews from the Concord Carpenter, which has the best, by far, reviews. Really, the only true pro reviews. The Flexvolt batteries work just fine on my 20v tools.
That's the damned truth, for sure!
Only batts I buy will be on eBay 6.0 $25
I was thinking about those stationary tools and what it would do with the newer pouch batteries particularly the PowerStack when the finally come out with the higher amp hour PowerStack batteries. Note a 5 amp hour PowerStack has the same size case as a standard 2 or 3 amp hour non-compact cylinder battery, so 5 maybe 10 years you 40 amp hour PowerStack, just think of what you could do with that kind of battery. Not to mention most of these tools are probably going to be Bluetooth controlled, sounds pretty nice.
In Australia the flex volt line is labelled 18V and 54V. No asterisk !
So I have both the cheap craftsman drill and the cheap DeWalt drill and I can say that the DeWalt has more power and seams to be built stronger. It is worth it for a homeowner but will not cut it in a professional manner
The right angle drill is like the OG Milwaukee Hole Hwag that is corded
Did craftsman stop making the bolt-on?
Great video, have you already done a breakdown like this for the milwaukee lineup?
Great video Red very informative @TheDenOfTools
I have a ton of dewalt tools the Xr are defenitly worth it as well as the FlexVolt Love my 120v Miter saw its a beast @TheDenOfTools
Thanks! I've always wondered about this stuff!
Bear! You forgot to mention POWER DETECT from Lowe’s!
Ive never had an issue using 60 volt batteries with my 20 volt tools. However, my brother did with his. I have no clue why, it seems to be a random issue with their stuff.
with air power you can an air drill to mix anything
any chance you'd consider doing a run down and comparison of all the Dewalt chargers available?
What about flexvolt advantage?
The problem with the Atomic 809 is the marketing. It was marketed as Contractor grade when it should have been DIY.
If you have an Atomic swap out the collet for a 3/8 hog ring, way better use of that tool.
Dewalt confused me with so many choices so I went with Kobalt. I'm super happy.
Bad move. Kobalt tools are probably going bye bye.
@@skliros9235 No they arent. Kobalt is the Lowes mid-grade prosumer line to go against Ryobi, Rigid and the like. While Lowes Flex will take on the big boys. Kobalt isnt going anywhere.
Great vid, thanks for sharing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Atomic with 20 volt power Or 18 volt? Im confused.
Thanks! Helped alot! So many brands and lines to figure out and keep track of.🔨👍😁👍🔧
The battery powered table saw works all day on a single project for me off one battery. The miter saw tends to kick breakers for gen 1 when plugged in. I run it off batteries 100% of the time now.
The tripod work lights are, by far, one of the coolest dewalt products. Just stick with battery flex volt batteries.
I have some 18v Dewalt tools. Why the hell did they change to 20v?
It was a change from NiCad to Lithium Ion. Same power but in a smaller (cheaper?) package.
Not sure how true it is but I heard that the reason dewalt and some others went to 20v or higher was because milwaukee trademarked or something the 18v moniker, probably to get some extra money
This is the smartest bear I have ever met.
i know its falls advertisement 20V but in a way they didn't had a choice here(USA) because of Milwaukee since they apparently patented the 18V and dewalt would have to be arguing with them and paying them for 18v so they went with 20v.....if you want dig around and make a video about that so ppl know why they calling it 20v and not 18v.. that's what i heard....BTW great video, as always keep up the good work ...
Very informative, thanks.
Thank you this is why I did not buy into the dewalt line too many models too much confusion This is why I went with Milwaukee simple lineup top tier tool